Khai-J-Bach opened this issue on Mar 29, 2010 · 42 posts
Khai-J-Bach posted Mon, 29 March 2010 at 10:17 PM
Support is ending for some versions of Windows
Support for Windows Vista without any service packs will end on April 13, 2010
Support for Windows XP with Service Pack 2 (SP2) will end on July 13, 2010
If you're running one of these versions after support ends, you won't get any further security updates.
NoelCan posted Mon, 29 March 2010 at 10:37 PM
I support not supporting Windows et al . Let's let the Mac users (and a few others..) have all the fun........ (0;#
Khai-J-Bach posted Mon, 29 March 2010 at 10:40 PM
thank you for the useless post which gives no help at all.
LaurieA posted Mon, 29 March 2010 at 10:45 PM
And that has whatever to do with the subject of the thread??? Didn't your mother tell you if you can't say anything nice, don't say ANYTHING?
almostfm posted Mon, 29 March 2010 at 11:13 PM
Quote - And that has whatever to do with the subject of the thread??? Didn't your mother tell you if you can't say anything nice, don't say ANYTHING?
But then there's the quote attributed to Alice Roosevelt:
"If you can't say anything nice about someone, come sit next to me"
Victoria_Lee posted Mon, 29 March 2010 at 11:17 PM
Support will still be given for XP Pro 64-bit, however, since a lot of companies are still using it.
Hugz from Phoenix, USA
Victoria
Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.
flibbits posted Mon, 29 March 2010 at 11:54 PM
I don't want the updates. When I install updates on Windows Vista, it no longer sees my WIn XP machine on the network.
Lucifer_The_Dark posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 4:13 AM
Sometimes the security updates can be more trouble than good, flibbits if it's any consolation Windows 7 doesn't see XP or Vista on my network.
Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1
NoelCan posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 4:21 AM
Quote - And that has whatever to do with the subject of the thread??? Didn't your mother tell you if you can't say anything nice, don't say ANYTHING?
Some people do not have their heads so far up their own (or perhaps someone else's) fundamental to recognise a J...O...K...E...
Khai-J-Bach posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 7:08 AM
it's not a joke noelcan when it's repeated a few thousand times by ppl who think it's 'funny'. we get it. you and other apple users think it's funny to bash windows.
we've heard it. it's not funny anymore. it stopped being funny after the 50th time. move on.
and DON"T REPLY. just go. leave. don't bother.
NoelCan posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 7:32 AM
Quote - it's not a joke noelcan when it's repeated a few thousand times by ppl who think it's 'funny'. we get it. you and other apple users think it's funny to bash windows.
we've heard it. it's not funny anymore. it stopped being funny after the 50th time. move on.
and DON"T REPLY. just go. leave. don't bother.
Temper temper... It's only funny for YOU when YOU do it to someone else.. Good night Petunia..
kyhighlander59 posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 7:42 AM
Quote - I support not supporting Windows et al . Let's let the Mac users (and a few others..) have all the fun........ (0;#
I remember when poser was strictly Mac only and I was lusting after it. Version 2 came out and it was windows and I bought it as soon as I saw it at a computer fair.
Lucifer_The_Dark posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 9:15 AM
Poser 1 was available for Windows as well, I have a copy here that came free with a magazine years ago.
Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1
vilters posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 9:34 AM
@Lucifer
That is how I started, with that free Poser 1 copy.
Must have been the most expensive magazine I ever bought !! LOL.
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LaurieA posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 9:41 AM
Quote - Sometimes the security updates can be more trouble than good, flibbits if it's any consolation Windows 7 doesn't see XP or Vista on my network.
Hmmm...mine does. Odd...
Windows 7 64 sees the other Vista 32 machines in the house and the other machines see it. Granted, it was no picnic getting the network to play nice, but obviously it can be done :o).
Laurie
pakled posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 9:50 AM
I can run the country, or I can run Alice, but I can't do both - Theodore Roosevelt The other quote was the title of her biography.
Yeah, I see the expiration dates any time I go to Windows update. Granted, Macs are 'officially' cooler, but some people may not know this, that need to.
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
bobbystahr posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 10:04 AM
And waaaay more expensive for the po' folk around about here my friend....way more expensive.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
WandW posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 10:17 AM
The company my Wife works for still uses Windows 2000. They are not a little place-their sales are about $100 billion a year. Apparently is cheaper to pay MS for updates than to maintain XP or Vista, as even the new machines they purchase are wiped and have Win2k installed in-house.
I can't say I blame them, as I think 2k is by far the best version of Windows I've used.....
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"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."Lucifer_The_Dark posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 11:35 AM
Quote - Hmmm...mine does. Odd...
Windows 7 64 sees the other Vista 32 machines in the house and the other machines see it. Granted, it was no picnic getting the network to play nice, but obviously it can be done :o).
Laurie
I must be doing something wrong then, not that it really matters, the last non Windows 7 machine in the house is being retired shortly, it's so old it struggles to run XP.
Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1
dlfurman posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 11:37 AM
Quote - Poser 1 was available for Windows as well, I have a copy here that came free with a magazine years ago.
Yeppers. Got my 3 3.5" floppies and my 106 page manual right here....
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LaurieA posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 11:55 AM
Quote - > Quote - Hmmm...mine does. Odd...
Windows 7 64 sees the other Vista 32 machines in the house and the other machines see it. Granted, it was no picnic getting the network to play nice, but obviously it can be done :o).
Laurie
I must be doing something wrong then, not that it really matters, the last non Windows 7 machine in the house is being retired shortly, it's so old it struggles to run XP.
To be honest, I've never had more trouble with the network than I've had with Windows 7. Isn't Win7 supposed to be easier? lol Too bad I'm better with the network than the hub, or I'd have HIM wrestle with it ;o)
Laurie
Lucifer_The_Dark posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 2:13 PM
Quote - To be honest, I've never had more trouble with the network than I've had with Windows 7. Isn't Win7 supposed to be easier? lol Too bad I'm better with the network than the hub, or I'd have HIM wrestle with it ;o)
Laurie
As oppose to wrestling with you? :woot: I'm off before I get myself in trouble. :tt2:
Windows 7 64Bit
Poser Pro 2010 SR1
LaurieA posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 2:17 PM
We're married. We no longer wrestle...lmao ;o)
Laurie
bobbystahr posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 3:09 PM
Yeah...the 'gloves are off, or is that boxing'...LOL.. ...
Once
in a while I look around,
I see
a sound
and
try to write it down
Sometimes
they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again
LaurieA posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 4:02 PM
Quote - Yeah...the 'gloves are off, or is that boxing'...LOL.. ...
Boxing...definitely boxing...lol
Laurie
aeilkema posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 5:05 PM
I haven't updated my windows XP in ages now, automatic updates are off. I haven't had any security problems for ages either. Whenever I did have my machine up to date and automatic updates on, I only had security troubles, even to the point where I had to reformat due to a nasty virus. That happened to me twice and I figured to not update instead. Haven't had any problems after that.
As far as I'm concerned, these security updates are far from being secure at all. Seems like the people who attack windows, focus on the newest version, leaving the older ones alone.
Having said that, I make sure my firewall, anti-virus and anti-mallware apps are up to date. That is far more helpful then a lot of these updates that MS produces, which often leaves me wondering what they actually did update and why my machine is now suddenly trying to connect to the internet like crazy and why my machine is getting slower and slower update after update.
MS can update as much as they like, they can stop support if the please, I'm not to bothered about all of that.
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Victoria_Lee posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 5:12 PM
I don't do automatic updates, either, for the same reason. I got one last week to update the WMP and it fragged my OS. I had to reinstall from the backup (which was nice since I didn't have to reinstall any programs) but I turned the auto updates off.
Hugz from Phoenix, USA
Victoria
Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.
Khai-J-Bach posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 5:15 PM
hmm funny,
I've never had any issues with the updates.... there again, any issues I get with my PC's are either parts failure or me tinkering ;)
Dave-So posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 5:22 PM
I like XP
Humankind has not
woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound
together.
All things connect......Chief Seattle,
1854
Victoria_Lee posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 5:55 PM
I love XP - running XP Pro 64-bit now. I avoided Vista like the plague and it'll be a cold day in Phoenix before I move up to Windows 7. I'm happy with my nice, stable system.
Hugz from Phoenix, USA
Victoria
Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.
mike1950 posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 11:07 PM
mike1950 posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 11:28 PM
Victoria_Lee posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 11:33 PM
It's nothing but a little script that shows what you're broadcasting. No-one else can see it unless you post it like this. It isn't meant to mine data and I'm really getting tired of people jumping all over me for something that means no harm and can't possibly do any harm.
Hugz from Phoenix, USA
Victoria
Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.
mike1950 posted Tue, 30 March 2010 at 11:49 PM
No jumping here, just thought it was funny. Does it work? Now it says I'm in China. I dont mind posting those IP addresses, they're not mine. :) (hope they are not someone elses online at the moment.)
Victoria_Lee posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 12:02 AM
I've changed my tagline because so many people don't understand how that one works.
It's a small script that reads back what your IP is broadcasting, even if it's being relayed, but nobody else can see what your information is. The only one I could see was mine, which was correct.
I went through a huge flame war over this about two months ago and I'm just not up to a repeat so I decided to dump it in favor of a simple text tag.
Hugz from Phoenix, USA
Victoria
Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.
pakled posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 12:15 AM
well, some people might see it as sort of a 'hacker' thing; I can see you, etc. It doesn't really bother me...
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
NoelCan posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 12:55 AM
Quote - I've changed my tagline because so many people don't understand how that one works.
It's a small script that reads back what your IP is broadcasting, even if it's being relayed, but nobody else can see what your information is. The only one I could see was mine, which was correct.
I went through a huge flame war over this about two months ago and I'm just not up to a repeat so I decided to dump it in favor of a simple text tag.
Once I was reassured that it was safe I dropped the Issue... I really hope it is not starting over..!
gagnonrich posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 9:24 AM
Attached Link: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/help/what-does-end-of-support-mean
Responding to the original post, things aren't so dire. Microsoft has not yet stopped supporting XP and Vista. Microsoft is no longer supporting versions of those OSs that have not been updated to the latest service pack (which is a free update). If anybody is concerned about losing such support, all they have to do is update their systems to the latest service pack. Anybody who hasn't done that already probably isn't too worried about not getting updates since the service packs represent cumulative security updates and other fixes to the operating system. Microsoft simply isn't supporting versions of those systems that are out of date to begin with.Microsoft does eventually stop updating old operating systems and XP is currently supposed to end in Apr 2014.
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Khai-J-Bach posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 9:34 AM
I did'nt say that Gagnonrich. nothing 'dire' in what I posted.
I said support for the Non SR Vista and XP SR2 is ending. not that support of Vista or XP was.
Victoria_Lee posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 9:35 AM
I'm sure, by the end of the year, I'll have upgraded to Windows 7 but, for now, I'm happy with my
XP
Hugz from Phoenix, USA
Victoria
Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.
Khai-J-Bach posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 9:47 AM
I made the move from XP to Win7 Home 64bit earlier in the year.
I set things up so I was Dual Booting between XP and 7.... and once I went into 7, I stopped using XP altogether.... 7 just... worked.
I've had no major issues with 7 at all.. things are just working. it's rather a suprise....
Victoria_Lee posted Wed, 31 March 2010 at 9:52 AM
Good to know ... but for the time being, since I just did a complete rebuild, I'll stay with my XP
Hugz from Phoenix, USA
Victoria
Remember, sometimes the dragon wins. Correction: MOST times.