SickenlySweete opened this issue on May 20, 2010 · 68 posts
SickenlySweete posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 9:10 PM
yes or no?
just wondering about if it would be worth doing something for her.
thanks
SS
JOELGLAINE posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 9:12 PM
V3 all the time. It's easier on my system. V4 is a resource hog. Also I have more stuff for her than V4.
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hborre posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 9:32 PM
I still use V3 on occasions.
LaurieA posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 9:34 PM
When I use a human figure, I still tend to use V3 ;o).
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Sa_raneth posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 9:36 PM
Yes V3 works well
scanmead posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 9:53 PM
Still love V3, and usually load her first.
pakled posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 10:50 PM
Still using her, by all means, continue..
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basicwiz posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 10:57 PM
I still use her, but I own a boat load of things for her, so it would have to be pretty special for me to buy it.
Winterclaw posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 11:34 PM
Nope. I got into poser after V4 was introduced so I never used V3. I do have A3 and want to play with her a little when I can get the chance.
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dphoadley posted Thu, 20 May 2010 at 11:46 PM
Eric Walters posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 1:34 AM
I have not rendered V1, 2, or 3 in some years. Let alone Posette or her friend the Dork -or any of the Poser 2 people....
magnemoe posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 2:52 AM
Still use her but mainly as secondary character as she uses less resources, and as other say they have boatload of items for her so you need something real special for it to be interesting.
chriscox posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 5:03 AM Online Now!
I still use V3 a lot. A touch more than V4
MistyLaraCarrara posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 8:23 AM
I like V3, but when I use her body morphs, her clothes don't support the morphs.
Or Stephanie Petite either.
Many clothes for V4 support the morphs ++.
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skuts posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 10:35 AM
V3 exclusively. V4 is a resource hog on my system. Plus she's got those funny arms.
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hborre posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 10:49 AM
Shhhhhh, don't mention the arms. V4 is very sensitive about that.
KimberlyC posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 11:47 AM
I haven't used V3 in a long time. :)
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Winterclaw posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 12:13 PM
Quote - I like V3, but when I use her body morphs, her clothes don't support the morphs.
Or Stephanie Petite either.
Isn't there something in the marketplace to help with that?
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seachnasaigh posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 12:19 PM
A3 is my first choice.
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kobaltkween posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 1:56 PM
whuff. i just finished cleaning my version 3 runtime. ugh. i definitely want to use those figures and i definitely do not need anything else for them.
thefunkyone_4ever posted Fri, 21 May 2010 at 2:39 PM
I use V4 almost exclusively, for exactly the same reasons as MistyLaraPrincess... Most V4 clothes come with a good chunk of Morphs++ support while V3 clothes usually dont have much morph support... V4 makes getting the clothes to fit a hell of a lot easier and no need to use wardrobe wizard to get clothes to fit !!!! :D
estherau posted Sat, 22 May 2010 at 8:05 AM
I think V3 wasn't a bad mesh (I'm not a modeller though) and if she was re-rigged she would be fantastic. When her mouth isn't too open and a nice morph she is way prettier than anything I can do with V4. And at least she has tendons in her wrists (unlike V4 who always looks a bit puffy and too smooth to me). But she did have the spaghetti arms problems.
There are people here developing new things that could possibly rejuvenate V3, but by then I suspect daz will put out V5.
Anyway to answer the question - yes I still use her at times.
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kobaltkween posted Sat, 22 May 2010 at 9:47 AM
corvas already made something for V3's shoulders. and V4's ridiculously high cut shoulders aren't any better (imho) without corvas' fix for her. i say that having tried about 3 or 4 other fixes for them before his.
Eric Walters posted Sat, 22 May 2010 at 1:34 PM
You made me curious- so I just rendered V3 for the first time since 2007. She's not bad!
And she renders fast! I will have to re-explore....
Mogwa posted Sat, 22 May 2010 at 3:15 PM
I still use her constantly. If you care to purchase all the available morph packs, she remains the most versatile poser character, imho. Her textures, in both variety and quality, are excellent and don't slow my system to a crawl when rendering.
aeilkema posted Sat, 22 May 2010 at 3:54 PM
Yes, do use her more then V4, but I've got a lot of things for her, I wouldn't buy something new quickly.
But... such a poll will not give you a good overview....... Most people who buy stuff will never visit these forums, there's only a very small fraction of the people buying at these and other forums. I'd say most like 90% of the people who buy stuff, never participate in any of the major forums.
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I try to use all the models I have.(including V3) As long as I can find something for them to wear.
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estherau posted Sat, 22 May 2010 at 6:46 PM
I must be in the 10% - I buya lot of things and I like the forums a lot.
Sometimes I hear about new things here.
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Eric Walters posted Sun, 23 May 2010 at 1:56 AM
V3 is better than I remembered. I just pulled up a few V3 characters from 2005 or so-and a late V3 from 2007. Pretty decent- especially with a modern version of Poser (Pro2010 in this case)- and BagginsBill's VSS3 and Envirosphere. She does render faster-and the face looks at least as realistic as V4's methinks.
Dang it SickenleySweete- now I feel obliged to blow the Dust off some old CD's and reload some V3 stuff! As if my Runtime was not already Giganormous!
tsquare posted Sun, 23 May 2010 at 4:36 AM
I use V3 and SP3 still quite a lot. They have quite a lot of nice clothing and are lean on resources.
LaurieA posted Sun, 23 May 2010 at 9:22 AM
I have a lot of clothing and really nice characters for V3. I hardly have anything for V4. When I saw V4 for the first time, I remember thinking it was a step backward. She looked rather toonish/out of proportion much more than her previous iterations.
Anyway, with still having so much for V3, her ease of use compared to V4, VSS, improved Poser rendering....there's no reason for me not to use Vicky 3. I have absolutely gobs of clothes for her, and since they fit her better than anyone....why try and fit those clothes to V4??
;o)
Laurie
Winterclaw posted Sun, 23 May 2010 at 2:04 PM
Quote - why try and fit those clothes to V4??
Because you can!
I was going to say something else ;) but opted not to.
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LaurieA posted Sun, 23 May 2010 at 2:12 PM
I don't need to fit em to V4...lol....they look fine on V3 ;o).
I have XD and all the plugins necessary, but if I'm satisfied with the way one of my V3 characters looks, I really don't see the need to use them converted to a V4 where they will not fit as nicely anyway ;o). Besides, if I do decide to use my V3 clothes on V4, I'll probably just convert them to dynamic...hehe.
Laurie
NanetteTredoux posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 2:45 PM
I use V3, and especially V3 Reduced Resolution. I think I shall be in the market for V3 textures for quite some time yet. The same goes for wearable clothes (not skimpy stuff).
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estherau posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 6:32 PM
v3 does have s slight back hump which puts her in the 40 yr old age range.
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LaurieA posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 6:47 PM
Hey! I'm in the 40 yr old age range and you can't even see my hump! I hide it under my double chin. I thought of throwing in the towel and just laying down and dying, but I thought better of it since I can just hide inside my house and never come out again. I hate myself when I go outside and scare children and small animals....
Apple_UK posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 7:41 PM
I never use V or M: Poser rules
LostinSpaceman posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 7:48 PM
I use whichever figure my images call for if they have the neccesary accesories.
estherau posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 9:34 PM
it's just a fact that the shape of our thoraces change with age. The become larger from front to back and less wide from side to side as time goes on.
Our spines slowly start to curve. If you have good posture your whole life it might not be so apparent until you are 60 or more.
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Prometheus273 posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 10:54 PM
I use V2 and V3. Never downloaded V4. By the time I amass a whole new wardrobe for her, V5 would make her debut. Between magnets, the morphing tool, Wardrobe Wizard, and Photoshop for postwork, I can do anything with my girls.
Eric Walters posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 11:04 PM
LaurieA- I am glad I was NOT drinking water when I read your post about scaring children and animals. It would have been sprayed all over the computer!
estherau posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 11:11 PM
LaurieA - hehe sorry, you can come out now.
I was just thinking about you when I was in the product showcase forums looking at the new dynamic clothes. where are your dynamic clothes? I would really love to buy the t-shirts and jeans when they are finished. Please don't forget about that project.
Eric the V3 looks 40 or so and the girls look in their early 30s to me.
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Eric Walters posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 11:24 PM
Hi Esther
I think you are right! They are all younger than me anyway. :-) In Callyfohnia (How Arnold Der Governator says it) the drinking age is 21. They look like teens to me! So I guess I am a poor at estimating age.
estherau posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 11:27 PM
V3s face could be morphed to look very young. with V4 it is more difficult, but her body can be made to look young.
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LaurieA posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 11:42 PM
LOLOL!!
Laurie
ShawnDriscoll posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 11:45 PM
I only use V3. No V4.
estherau posted Mon, 24 May 2010 at 11:50 PM
someone made a magnet to dehump her back once. I think it was in free stuff.
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quietrob posted Wed, 26 May 2010 at 6:28 AM
A3 is still my first choice but there is no getting around it.
It is a M4, V4 world. There is still lots of stuff for V3 but it is being pushed aside for V4.
Until V5 comes along.
egaeus posted Fri, 28 May 2010 at 6:13 AM
I use V3 almost exclusively. While I like V4's facial expressions and easy morphing, V3 always looks like a person, whereas you have to have the right texture to make V4 realistic. V3 appears to actually have bones in her face; V4's face is unnaturally smooth. In addition, I prefer the old "one texture fits all" idea of the generation 3 figures rather than the "let's make more money by making it impossible to swap textures" philosophy.
bluecity posted Wed, 09 June 2010 at 10:40 AM
I still use V3 almost exclusively. I've never really warmed up to V4.
SamTherapy posted Wed, 09 June 2010 at 11:44 AM
I use all of 'em at the time it suits. Have to say I'm disappointed overall with V4. Seems like a missed opportunity to me.
I hate the default shape and there's something inherently "off" about it that no amount of morphs seem to cure, unless you go the Blackhearted route and redo the whole thing from top to bottom.
I like the way V4 bends when compared to V3** ** but that's not saying much.
Never did take to any of the Poser native figures much. Posette, in its time, was great. Still useful now and again (Hi David). Says a lot that it's an old Zygote/DAZ figure, huh?
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dphoadley posted Wed, 09 June 2010 at 1:26 PM
Hi Sam;
Posette has problems, but she's still a joy to work with, especially when compared to all the others.
dph
ShawnDriscoll posted Wed, 09 June 2010 at 8:03 PM
V3's arm/knee pit bends can be hidden most times. But V4's big eyes are harder to hide.
SamTherapy posted Wed, 09 June 2010 at 8:45 PM
Quote - V3's arm/knee pit bends can be hidden most times. But V4's big eyes are harder to hide.
Scale dials work wonders for 'em. But yes, they should have been made right to start with.
Also, she looks worryingly like David Walliams, IMO.
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EnglishBob posted Thu, 10 June 2010 at 6:10 AM
Quote - Also, she [V4] looks worryingly like David Walliams, IMO.
snort Pass the tissues, somebody... :lol:
I've been using V4 a bit recently, because I wanted to use some products that had been made for her and that was the easiest route. Although I like her facial expressions, on the whole I still prefer V3; maybe because I like to use the same virtual model and I've settled on a V3 character that I get on with.
On the other hand, I do intend to try employing some of the lesser-used figures a bit more often: Miki, SP3, Judy, Olivia...
SamTherapy posted Thu, 10 June 2010 at 10:44 AM
Heh. You noticed it too, EB?
Yup, SP3 is a nice alternative and generally one I use more than t'others.
The Poser native figures - from Judy onwards - have been a big disappointment to me. Bought Miki and hated it. Never got the "upgrade" because I disliked the original so much. Don't like the P6 figures at all, nor their reworked versions.
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Ghostofmacbeth posted Thu, 10 June 2010 at 11:02 AM
I think V4 was a sort of failed experiment at creating a better "neutral" figure that could be adapted since a lot of people always said that V3 always looked like V3 and it was hard to get rid of that look. At least in some places. A lot of people like big eyes so make them big, with the option to dial them smaller, a lot of people like toon so make her a bit more toony with the option to make her more realistic, etc. That, I know, was the concept but I don't think it worked out that well. I still can't stand her and I hate that I would have to include the eye size morph in addition to every custom character I did, etc.
Some people do like her though.
SamTherapy posted Thu, 10 June 2010 at 11:19 AM
I can't think why they'd make the default eye size wrong. Better to make them right with the option to dial up. IMO, V4 doesn't look like a toon, either. Just "wrong". So, if that was their concept, they messed up on all counts. Besides which, A4 and G4 should cover the toon bases.
Maybe DAZ will get it right with V400 but don't count on it.
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EnglishBob posted Thu, 10 June 2010 at 3:15 PM
Quote - Heh. You noticed it too, EB?
I can't say I had, but now you mentioned it I'll never be able to use V4 again. :lol:
Quote - Yup, SP3 is a nice alternative and generally one I use more than t'others.
The Poser native figures - from Judy onwards - have been a big disappointment to me. Bought Miki and hated it. Never got the "upgrade" because I disliked the original so much. Don't like the P6 figures at all, nor their reworked versions.
For what it's worth, I like Miki 2 a lot better than the original. YMMV. And to qualify what I said, I don't use the stock Judy, only one of the enhanced versions such as AnAn, Eternal Judy or TenTen P5 (Judy with V2's head). I also prefer SP3 with her head morphed into V3's shape.
vampchild posted Thu, 10 June 2010 at 7:00 PM
V3 Rules! I'm still buying V3 characters when I see a
new one now and then. Would love to see new V3 stuff
made. Looks like everyone sorta went V4 crazy and forgot
V3.
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EnglishBob posted Fri, 11 June 2010 at 4:05 AM
I still have some V3 clothing in my workflow that I'm finishing up. I even made a simple dynamic dress for V2 recently, for Evans' sake. It was actually for Stephanie ( version 1) to wear - now there's a neglected figure. :)
SamTherapy posted Fri, 11 June 2010 at 4:44 PM
Steph 1 is a great figure. Still use it a lot.
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EnglishBob posted Fri, 11 June 2010 at 7:16 PM
Hopefully you already have Aino - but in case post-natal senility has set in, and for the benefit of any other S1 fans, I recommend her highly.
I forgot to mention earlier that whenever I use V3, it's usually V3RR, but with the eyes from the normal resolution V3 substituted because I had trouble with the RR ones. Just like to be different, I suppose. :)
Apple_UK posted Fri, 11 June 2010 at 8:00 PM
Quote - yes or no?
just wondering about if it would be worth doing something for her.
thanks
SS
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linkdink posted Fri, 11 June 2010 at 10:40 PM
I still use V3 exclusively.
Nothing against V4, I just have never put the money into all the morphs, clothes, etc. And I put so much time and money into learning how to make V3 work.
SamTherapy posted Sat, 12 June 2010 at 5:29 AM
Quote - Hopefully you already have Aino - but in case post-natal senility has set in, and for the benefit of any other S1 fans, I recommend her highly.
I forgot to mention earlier that whenever I use V3, it's usually V3RR, but with the eyes from the normal resolution V3 substituted because I had trouble with the RR ones. Just like to be different, I suppose. :)
Yep, but to save hunting through my archived stuff, I dled it again. Not currently installed, ya see. I generally use Steph Max or Maxine, though.
Also, thanks for continuing to host Aino, and for all your fine stuff.
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Scharmers posted Mon, 14 June 2010 at 4:07 PM
V3 is my primary female figure, because I've purchased a ton of stuff for her, including content that fixes her "problems" (i.e. Corvas' fixes). It also helps that I've been using the V3 model for years and years and can work around her idiosyncracies.
There is the complaint that most of her clothes don't have all of her morphs, but there are various and sundry (and cheap) clothing morph movers including one here that work well.
SpookieLilOne posted Mon, 14 June 2010 at 7:12 PM
V3 is not even in my runtime any longer...
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