Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL

I agree it's a shame Apollo is fading into obscurity. In many ways he was / is a superior figure. As for the flaming I'd say that Anton fanned a lot of the flames himself, especially with the Clark1 debackle, but that doesn't change the fact that Apollo has some features not normally seen in other Poser figures. I'm looking foward to Brad, he has the potential to be even better than Apollo ever was. Whether or not he'll get support is another question. Problem is that male figures generally gets a lot less support than the ladies. I guess their lack of bewbage is a problem L

Brad? That's a new one on me. Will he be released soon?

I'm a collector of obscure Poser figures. I have Vincent Parker, Rikkishi (with his add on packs), and some others.

Another figure I hope goes into further development is Behemoth 2. I like his more human face better than the original version.

tomsde what whould you like to see for apollo? i still think he is a viable figure.

This is a skin texture i have never finished for apollo:

I would like to see a wider variety of facial expressions. A more morphable face. As far the as the body goes I would like to see more muscular definition.

Actually his face is very morphable, most people use the parameters at its fullest capicity. if you dial smaller numbers you get very fantastic results.

I could still use Apollo Maximus any time. My runtimes for him are still intact and on standby.

Eternal Hobbyist

Yeah the moving the dials backwards always did throw me off.

And btw with Zbrush and or the morph brush the possibilities are limitless for creating great apollo faces or bodies.

Quote - I. As far the as the body goes I would like to see more muscular definition.

That was the figures biggest flaw.

and the morph brush was not introduced until poser 7
and not everyone has the funds to buy & learn Zbrush just
to add Muscular Anatomy Details that should have been included in
"the ultimate poser figure", from the very beginning.

Cheers

My smilin' avatar is Apollo...couldn't have done him in one of the Daz characters without buying morphability...

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

Pakled, FYI, I just wanted to let you know that the free Mil 4 figures Daz gives away, unlike the Gen 3 figures, do come with basic facial morphs--but you do have to pay if you want any body morphs.

> Quote - .couldn't have done him in one of the Daz characters without buying morphability...

Not true....not at all

Left to right....
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FREE** DAZ M3
FREE DAZ "Freak4"

and the venerable Mike2
Not Free but was Selling for $70 USD
when Apollo was first released at $90 USD.
just setting the facts straight.

Cheers

http://www.capsces.com/cdifreebies/CDIBoris.zip
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here is another free character that's coming up at the moment

techno bad boy

you can see a youtube preview here

Quote - Brad? That's a new one on me. Will he be released soon?

I'm a collector of obscure Poser figures. I have Vincent Parker, Rikkishi (with his add on packs), and some others.

Another figure I hope goes into further development is Behemoth 2. I like his more human face better than the original version.

Yeah, Phantom3D is making Brad. There's a dedicated thread here with a title that doesn't lend itself well to knowing what's lurking there.

All politics aside, Apollo was and still is a great figure - very morphable and well produced. I still use him a lot.
I secretly hoped Anton might one day redesign certain aspects of his mesh to make some of that muscle definition more feasible without use of displacement.
Have to say, I doubt any further updates to Apollo will be on the horizon. To my knowledge Anton hasn't been making Poser content for at least a couple of years now, or been visiting any of these communities. Who knows though.

Phantom3d's figure work looks very promising - keeping a keen eye open for Brad.

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Well maybe if people keep talking about him, Apollo may be reborn yet again. I'd lost hope of seeing him ever again when the 2007 version came out.

I checked out Brad and was most impressed by his rigging (no pun intended). Bad boy looks interesting too.

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FREE** DAZ M3
FREE DAZ "Freak4"

and the venerable Mike2
Not Free but was Selling for $70 USD
when Apollo was first released at $90 USD.
just setting the facts straight.

Cheers

Actually, anyone interested can get Michael 2 here for free.
And the reduced resolution version is here, also for free.

Just setting the facts... even straighter! roflmao! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Actually, anyone interested can get Michael 2 here for free.
And the reduced resolution version is here, also for free.

Just setting the facts... even straighter! roflmao! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well thank you !!
its good to see this Classic Well made figure is now Free
and for those even more interested
"Capses" recently made boris for M2 a freebie

Enjoy

Woot!? M2 is now free? Well then I MUST finish my new texture/morph pack for him! :D

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FREE** DAZ M3
FREE DAZ "Freak4"

and the venerable Mike2
Not Free but was Selling for $70 USD
when Apollo was first released at $90 USD.
just setting the facts straight.

Cheers

Actually, anyone interested can get Michael 2 here for free.
And the reduced resolution version is here, also for free.

Just setting the facts... even straighter! roflmao! :lol: :lol: :lol:

But you'd better HURRY! He's only on sale til the year 2019!!!

ok...I'll fess up. I understand basic morphs (creating obj files), but inj/rem kinda confuses me. As I understand it (and P5 regularly blows up over it...;) inj/rem usually requires you to purchase this or that package, in order to work with any of the base characters. If I ever try using Inj/rem anything, Poser hangs, and eventually gives up.

Actually, the previous 'pakled' avatar I used was done with M3, base figure. I probably spent a good hour or so trying to get it to work. Lotsa dial-spinning, but aside from the standard expressions in the Pose section, I had to make do.

Still, I use either character with abandon, though finding clothes, textures, etc., that work in P5 for male characters in general isn't nearly as easy as female characters.

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

why doesn't everybody write a note to anton ?

Perhaps people already Have.
But Anton has no obligation to "return" to poser
I say let the man Live his life in private if that's his choice.

that's true, maybe something in his life changed that has more priority
you see that often, when people get married, have children etc etc

That's life. A good shake up of who you are and what you're doing from time to time is a positive thing, even if it's motivated by negative or turbulent experiences.

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just to say: i have more DAZ version 3 female characters than i can reasonably count, and about 37 DAZ version 4 female characters. i even have a decent amount of DAZ version 2 female characters, and a few female characters for other figures like Miki, Maya Doll, and others. i have some definite holes thinking internationally, but i can probably manage them given what i have already.

i have about 8 version 4 male characters, about twice that number of version 3 male charaters, and maybe 5 version 2 male characters. i have no more than 2 textures for Apollo. i need more female textures like i need a hole in the head, but i just acquired the free Boris (thanks to Capsces!) and want to work more with Apollo. more texture/character support for Apollo, M2, and just about any male figure would be more than welcome, imho.

I started putting together an extensive face morph package at one point. This was an early preview, the roster has expanded substantially sense then. It started out just being things I'd done for my own personal use, mainly different superheroes, but then I'd see things that other people were doing for the 4th gen daz figures, people like raw, and wondered if I couldn't duplicate similar morphs with Apollo.

I've done a good deal of Superhero stuff for Apollo, which I will now spam you with. If anyone does want to set up an Apollo forever community I'd love to be a part of it.

yes, please?
(x-post, in response to the face morphs)

I have lots of web space that is not being used, that I will offer for an Apollo site. But I do not know how to set up a site, so anyone who does know how, want to?

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Ok, I've gotten it out of my system. Apollo was my favorite figure for a long time, I've only recently begun to move on to M4.

just posting to follow this

"But Anton has no obligation to "return" to poser
I say let the man Live his life in private if that's his choice."

Agreed.

He had a rough time of it, both in inter-personal and professional relationships (and IMHO brought most of it upon himself ** ), but the man did know how to make mesh.

I remember he was talking about making a separate female figure as well (not just a female morph). Never knew what happened to that.

Ah well. People move on after a very long time, some drift in and out (that would be me), some flame out, and some just hang around forever. Just the way it is. The last time I was consistently active here was in 2005. The last time I was consistently active in Poserdom period ended early last year, when my (then new) job had me architecting, then building, a complete IT infrastructure (while at the same time dragging my carcass between two different states and two different countries in order to do it). Let's just say it was hella busy - finally began to come down to something sane early this month.

I hadn't heard/seen 'boo' from Anton since mid/late 2006, and even then it was starting to get less and less frequent.

If he wants to come back, he'll come back. If not, not. Meanwhile, others have risen (see also phantom3D.) If he does come back, cool - I look forward to seeing what he can come up with.

** Don't expect me to expound, elaborate, expand, or explain. Let's just leave it as it is, and that's as far as I'm going describe it.

Wow joequick, congratulations on creating some amazing characters for Apollo. Superb ! .... I wouldn't mind seeing you release a morph pack for him.

And having a website "Apollo Forever" (maybe as a "brother site" to PosetteForever ?) sounds like a great idea.

Oooh, may I ask where one can get Boris for free?

look for posts by Capsces. Boris is further down the page.
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=127756&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=80

Quote - "Would it have hurt us, I wonder, just to have gathered a few laurel leaves?" --James T Kirk

My concern about Apollo is that since he's non-distributable, if Anton takes his site down, he's gone... :sad:

WandW- you took the quote right out of my mind! "....you were right- take me, take me.."

I am just stumbling into Apollo. And he is about to vanish? Only to be rendered by those who have already downloaded him? Much like the Yoda figure for Poser that seems unavailable. that!

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Wow joequick, congratulations on creating some amazing characters for Apollo. Superb ! .... I wouldn't mind seeing you release a morph pack for him.

And having a website "Apollo Forever" (maybe as a "brother site" to PosetteForever ?) sounds like a great idea.

Site for and about Apollo? Sure sounds good. Just dont use that other site as a model.

They will ban you for NO reason other than you showed friendship to DPH ON ANOTHER SITE ENTIRELY! (yeah it happened to me) bunch of crackpots run that site. (my personal opinion btw).

dasquid, I've heard that.

what site do you mean dasquid ?

da squid, home of the $99 basketball squid?...;)

After cataloging everything in my runtime, I can state with some assurance that where other characters have 5-6 morphs, it was rare that I had less than 100 for Apollo...;)

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

> Quote - > After cataloging everything in my runtime, I can state with some assurance that where other characters have 5-6 morphs, it was rare that I had less than 100 for Apollo...;)

HMM interesting Not sure about what "other characters" you have installed
but M2 ,which is now free,
has:
"Features- Michael 1 .Obj

Brand New .Cr2 with Michael 1 Morphs
Plus Hundreds of All New Morphs - 105 Full Body Morphs
243 Partial Body Morphs
230 Head and Facial Structure/Expression Morphs
.Cr2 and.Obj Files Modified to Fit Michael to the P4 Man Proportions
Endless Morph Combination Possibilities For Differing - Physique
Age
Weight
Height
Ethnicity
Characters
Compatible with Accessories, Textures, and Morphs for Michael 1.0
Compatible with Accessories made for the P4 Male
Genitalia Option"

This of course Excludes the now free Boris Morphs
and BTW for M2 Users I have been given permission
to redistribute the free "spubba troll" morph that give M2 larger hands, wrists& Feet
I will PM me if you would like it as well
see attached Image of the Morph.

Cheers

Techno Bad Boy is autodesk/Softimage Facerobot compatible

So you can use it with motion capture hardware and software.
besides that, Bad boy has Mimic pro visemes and autodesk motionbuilder visemes
There are allready a few packages availlable for it
Because it's a new character, many morphs will follow in time :)

This character is made with the eye on compatiblity between packages like autodesk maya, motionbuilder, softimage and 3dsmax.

Quote - what site do you mean dasquid ?

posette forever is the site I mean

pakled: nope dasquid as in the sailor. US Navy sailors are called squids.

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pakled: nope dasquid as in the sailor. US Navy sailors are called squids.

I have a friend who was a submariner-he said they called themselves "termites" because they were so pale after spending 3 months underwater...

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Quote - da squid, home of the $99 basketball squid?...;)

Speaking of which, I'm kind of surprised that Turbosquid still exists... what with a zillion free mesh websites (Archibase, etc), I'm impressed (not in a good way, but, well, kinda shocked) that they're still a going concern.

Sure - on the pro level, one can expect to shell out a bundle for a 4k-poly royalty-free and unique mesh, but one where it's likely that others have the same critter? Wow.

PS: dasquid, daswabbie (hehe), daseaman... same-same. Not the site, the person. :)

I really like Apollo and have collected a number of characters for him, also some clothes (mostly from PoserWorld). I would certainly be very interested in a preservation site.

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Lots of great ideas in Apollo. The extra joint/group in the upper arm might well be the better solution for arm rigging. The problem becomes recutting clothes that have the usual collar/shldr/forearm chain to make them work with him. The extra joint in the torso and foot is maybe overkill. DAZ overkills with too many materials, Anton might have done the same with joints. Sometimes less is more.

The default pose is great for draping clothes. Arms down, thumbs up. Very natural. The palms down T pose is not a good choice at all and every other Poser fig I've seen uses it. Arms up/thumbs up would be best I think.

The head is a bit brutish which can be great. He's not rez-heavy, very efficient topology. Great character, I'll never stop using him.

I think Apollo is a great figure and he is not update at all.
To have a Apollo forum will be great, but the problem is who is going to make it ....

adh3d website

I'm curious... I've read a fair amount about Apollo Maximus with a lot of people swearing by the figure. I've used it a bit but to me it doesn't seem any better than a lot of the other figures already out there. Is there something I'm missing that makes AM superior to other human poser models?

I like his scaling abilities, a lot of people like his flexibility for posing, etc.

When I actually get the chance to use Poser I still find Apollo fun to render. In fact, and by coincidence, the latest render in my gallery is of Apollo although you might not recognize him.

The liver is evil - It must be punished.

Apollo's versatility is the key to his popularity, he was a totally new approach to human figures when he was released. If you're using Daz Studio you wouldn't have as much flexibility with him. I would say that he is still the best non-Daz human figure out there. There are other 3rd party figures, but none with the flexibility of Apollo.

I encourage other users to post some of their Apollo renders here.

Versatility... and shoulders!

I came late to the Apollo dance. I started using the figure while M3 was still the dominant male figure and V4 was still fairly young. And M3's shoulder's were just inhuman and wrong. I think Daz recognized this, because David's shoulders were a huge improvement, but at the time I started using Apollo David also cost money. The Freak cost money. Luke cost money. The baby cost money. And to have a figure that was free at that point, with so much versatility, and human shoulders. It was just great.

Apollo is also from that old school train of thought where you've got a head texture and a body texture... And you don't break things into torsos and limbs giving people more seems to match.

Finally, enough can't be said about the textures that come with Apollo. Other textures have come out. But once you really start exploring what's included with the figure (and you take a look at theh quality of any third party textures besides the incredibly unique and well crafted Maqua), and you realize they kind of pale in comparison to the default Apollo textures.

Yes, M3s shoulders do stink. M4s aren't much of an improvement--but they are better.. The G2 figures that come free with Poser are even worse. I don't know what is so difficult about rigging shoulders but you really appreciate it when someone get's it right.

Re M3, I have been able to get a modicum of success by applying Corvas' fix for M3 (available at RMP), and then making his deltoids a bit bigger.

Out of the box, his deltoids are weak and sagging, which along with the armpit and drinking-straw elbow make him look like a praying mantis.

An Apollo Forever type fan site sounds like a good idea, but I would suggest making it more like a wikipedia than that other site, don't want to get accused to stealing ideas do we?

ps now that I can get back to using Poser again (short break due to OS death) I'm going to reinstall Apollo & get rendering with him.

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I haven't used Apollo that much, but the attraction is the same as for V3: they do what a figure is supposed to do. They take morphs beautifully, and don't look like the same figure in every render. As joequick's link shows, you could use a dozen Apollos in one render, and they wouldn't look like clones.

And as Carodan has already proven, Apollo is so versatile he can even be you! Or me in this case.

Great render joequick. I encourage other people to post their Apollo renders too.

@joequick - Wow, I'd all but forgotten about that morphing Apollo video. Thanks for posting that link. I've had oodles of fun with Apollo over the years just playing with his default morphs and scaling. Limited content encouraged us to get creative. With WW and dynamics it's much easier to get a lot out of most figures these days. I love playing with his face with the morph brush as well.

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These old dudes were some of the last ones I was playing with (sure I posted these before).

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A few added displacement wrinkles.

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The promo for Connie's wizard robes...

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Ethnic variations...

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yep, many hours spent tinkering with Apollo

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Here's an old one.

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and one of my favourites

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Quote - With WW

Does Wardrobe Wizard work well with Apollo? I have Crossdresser, and the arms never come out right, there's always tearing when you try to raise them. What I wind up doing is using CrossDresser to convert the item, drape the resulting mesh, and then use obj->cr2 to rig it. That's how I got my sweater/shirt combo in my self portrait. It used to be for V3.

Carodan, great stuff. I definitely have not utilized Apollo to his greatest potential. I think this is a great figure for anyone to add to their library; and hell--he's free along with some decent clothing.

Wardrobe Wizard generally does a great job with most every figure. It even comes free with Poser 8 if you don't have it joequick. The add on module for Apollo is quite reasonable (less the the cost of a full outfit). If you have Poser 8, you certainly can't go wrong with buying the Apollo module and experimenting.

Caroda, you morphs and work are wonderfull, the old man is great.

adh3d website

What texture is that Dan?

:)
Textures - well, yes. Here's one of those creative Apollo moments. I ended up doing all kinds of Photoshop re-hashes and blends for various Apollo characters.

The most recent Old man used a blend of Quint for Apollo and Talus, selectively using certain elements from each and sometimes softening some parts of a map using another (being careful with the seams of course).

I think I started with the older Quint texture as a base but used Talus's face (a softened version I adjusted beforehand) to remove the beard. I did a lot of other stuff to those blends with the clone tool and healing brush to remove specular and areas of diffuse colour that didn't seem to work for me, and to even out the overall skin tones and details (I remember removing a lot of the Quint wrinkles and creases on the face that conflicted with my morph, and added in new creases using a custom displacement that wasn't so different from the freebie one I put up ages ago).

In short, I've customised what there is available to create new options. I take quite some time and care with this. I'm sure some of this could be done in the material room, but I find customising in Photoshop gives me utimate control.

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Seems no offer until now. If you guys still need forum for apollo, I can make one for you.

But I already have one that I have to maintain (www.forum3d.net) and I'm not a native tongue in English.
So I need volunteer(s) for moderator. If I can get supporter(s), the forum (that can attach images and zip files) and gallery will be ready in few days.

I have been working on a site with an Apollo forum, it is up and running but needs more work on the look of it. Mainly templates. I went and purchased site spinner pro for making templates but am still figuring it out. LOL.

It's here: poserpub.phantom3d.net/phpbb3/index.php Not much of a site yet, as I said earlier, dont know much about making web sites, I am having to figure this out as I go.

cheers,
Mike.

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I like it already Mike! Antonia, Brad, Apollo, Poser freebies get their own forums! Very neat!!
Come on all you supporters, lets populate!

Good someone likes the forums, I like it too, and learning to set them up. I thought the free stuff forum for each appropriate subject would help to keep some organization to it. Well it's there anyway. I am hooking up a gallery to it tomorrow , it will be integrated.

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Ah! Already exist.
Sorry, I didn't notice your site.
(I was thinking about Apollo only site.)

Well I could make it an Apollo only site, but I would have to drop everything else I'm doing. Cant do that :) I'm not sure about this gallery software yet, but I might be able to make a separate Apollo gallery.

Yetsu: If you would like to make a site for Apollo, dont let me stop you, I was building a site anyway, so it's not going to hurt my feelings. :biggrin: You could likely do Apollo more justice as you know what you are doing and I do not. Since CP closed there has been no where to go to read news about the figure, would be nice if there were.

Peace.
Mike.

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Quote - Yetsu: If you would like to make a site for Apollo, dont let me stop you, I was building a site anyway, so it's not going to hurt my feelings.

I offered because I thought there was no offer about apollo's forum. According to my experience running forum over three years, to install and setup forum software is easy part, most difficult part is daily maintenance (security update, database optimization, installing and updating extensions like gallery, and avoiding SPAMs) . It's bothers me, so I'm glad if someone can do.

And if you are using rental server like DreamHost or something else, you can setup new domain (site) easily from control panel without deleting current contents.

*"I offered because I thought there was no offer about apollo's forum. According to my experience running forum over three years, to install and setup forum software is easy part, most difficult part is daily maintenance (security update, database optimization, installing and updating extensions like gallery, and avoiding SPAMs) . It's bothers me, so I'm glad if someone can do.

And if you are using rental server like DreamHost or something else, you can setup new domain (site) easily from control panel without deleting current contents."*

You're not kidding ! I am just now working to install- set up the gallery,:scared: I dont understand all this code at all. There is step by step instructions but it is still daunting. I guess I better save a full backup of the site befor I start, so I can reload if I mess it up. And yes I am using a rental "my domain.com"

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I am just now working to install- set up the gallery,:scared: I dont understand all this code at all. There is step by step instructions but it is still daunting. I guess I better save a full backup of the site befor I start, so I can reload if I mess it up. And yes I am using a rental "my domain.com"

I don't know what kind of gallery you are installed. But if it is Gallery 2, you may check Gallery 2 Codex Page for integration.

I'm sorry, I don't know about phpBB3. Once I've setup phpBB1 for my friend, but mod (extension) install/uninstall is very difficult, especially for Japanese translation. So when I start my forum I chaged to SMF and Coppermine Gallery, because more easy mod install/uninstall and integration.

Basically, for integration (or bridge) with forum and gallery software, you don't understand the code but you should know your forum and galley's installed directory structure exactly, and use same database.

I made a texture for Apollo "BE4Merlin" but now I forgot where he is marketed.
Guess I better find out...lol.

He textures beautifully as well as scales and poses great.

Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.

Quote - I made a texture for Apollo "BE4Merlin" but now I forgot where he is marketed.
Guess I better find out...lol.

He textures beautifully as well as scales and poses great.

I've purchaed from Renderosity.
[ http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=63375

](http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=63375)

Unfortunately he was removed from Renderosity.

Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.

He ran afoul of the "Clearance" section for not having enough sales I'll bet.

Attached Link: BluEcho Sharecg Portfolio:

Yep, and I moved him but that store closed to the public so I just closed out my products there.

Ah well, guess I'll try one more place for him but can't say it here...lol.
I'll do that tomorrow.

If you look on sharecg, you'll find a free Apollo tex by me.
It's BE4Dan For Apollo.

Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.

I think I broke the server :( They are going to be so mad at me. Nothing will install or upload on it. Cant even delete anything.

I will call them today and see if it can be fixed. Sorry. :crying:

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What was that fourth part of Apollo Maximus that was to have been released "soon"?

I, too, think Apollo is a wonderful figure. Indeed, his true potential has never been realized.

Anything new being developed for him? I'm particularly interested in body morphs and facial morphs.

Quote - What was that fourth part of Apollo Maximus that was to have been released "soon"?

I, too, think Apollo is a wonderful figure. Indeed, his true potential has never been realized.

Anything new being developed for him? I'm particularly interested in body morphs and facial morphs.

It was supposed to be his updated bodysuits I believe.

Quote - I like his scaling abilities, a lot of people like his flexibility for posing, etc.

Those are the two best things I like about him.

Dan, your art work is exceptional. I am very impressed by all of it, and certainly by what you've done with Apollo Maximus.

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Wow joequick, congratulations on creating some amazing characters for Apollo. Superb ! .... I wouldn't mind seeing you release a morph pack for him.

And having a website "Apollo Forever" (maybe as a "brother site" to PosetteForever ?) sounds like a great idea.

Yes, and I'd be happy to pay for such a morph pack.

Quote - I can try to make some morphs or textures, any requests?

Well, as others have mentioned, muscle definition. Veins showing just by themselves would be great. M4 has a combined muscle-vein displacement set. Whether it's by displacement or bump map or whatever, muscular definition and vascularity (veins showing) would be my requests.

impossible ot have veins without teh displacement or normal map.

the mesh is not detailed enough.

why not use displacement or normal map for veins?

Well, someone above said he wanted muscular definition without displacement, that's why I included "bump."

One doesn't exclude the other. A Muscle definition could be made with some morphing and the vascularity with a displacement map.

I do like Apollo, I just think it's hard to morph away his very soft, chubby features. Not impossible, but hard.

I'd tend to agree with TG about creating definition morphs for Apollo's body, but my personal experience is that he has one of the most enjoyable faces to morph of all figures I've used (particularly with the morph brush). Just the right amount of mesh density for me there.

Just out of interest, some time ago when there was still an Apollo forum at CP, I was tinkering with making some better muscle definition for Apollos body. I got as far as the thighs at least, with some degree of success. I'd have to say that the mesh flow didn't look too pretty to achieve this though.
Oh, and to re-establish nice bending you'd probably need to incorporate a whole slew of new JCM's - a lot of work all told.

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Here is a quick picture I did using some of the morphs I did for muscle. It is default everywhere else but I tried to add some definition. A lot can be done with displacement but this has no maps.

Quote - Here is a quick picture I did using some of the morphs I did for muscle. It is default everywhere else but I tried to add some definition. A lot can be done with displacement but this has no maps.

Nice! :oD

Laurie

i still love apollo :D

Just bookmarking again, not getting my ebots.

Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.

I've released a couple of freebies recently

http://www.sharecg.com/v/44325/Poser/Sinestro-Mantle-and-Belt-for-Apollo

http://www.sharecg.com/v/44435/Poser/Wolverine-Suit-for-Apollo

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2118200&user_id=567120&np&np

Not to knock your freebies Joe, but it looks like Wolverine has two feedbags hanging out the leg holes of his shorts! Just one of the reasons I never took to Apollo even after buying him. He just always looked too, um, Inflatable to me.

my kids are apollo! they look cool

here's a couple of characters i love them

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1841472&user_id=567120&np&np

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1840290&user_id=567120&np&np

apollo totally totally kicks butt if you ask me. i still don't totally get his joints, but i'm working on them.

go that way really fast.
if something gets in your way
turn

I love working with Apollo!! Is there any kind of skin converter for Apollo? I know nothing about skin & would like to convert some from M3-M4 to Apollo, if possible. THANKS!!

Quote - Brad? That's a new one on me. Will he be released soon?

I'm a collector of obscure Poser figures. I have Vincent Parker, Rikkishi (with his add on packs), and some others.

Another figure I hope goes into further development is Behemoth 2. I like his more human face better than the original version.

I just got Rikishi. I had him in my wish list for well, since his release and when I got an email announcing a big sale I picked him up with a few of his character pacs and of course all his freebies! It was cool to get a heavier more realistic heay set guy without breakng the render power house with big mesh giants like M3/M4. Now if I can get some pictures of myself in my birthday suit I can map to Rikishi the heavy set guy qill become my AVATAR!

Quote - http://www.sharecg.com/v/44435/Poser/Wolverine-Suit-for-Apollo

That was one of the items of discourse when anton released him. He never built any tonus/muscularity mts into apollo. his argument ws that the figure ws so good there would be many third party content creators who would fill that void. i guess they never materialized. i have seen some nice renders done with him and obviously there was some serious attempt in most of them to fill that void by the characters these individuals created...if i remember there was a cool fat man and a beautifully rotind female rebuilt from apollo.....hich i think were good because of their soft fleshy surface. but muscular type figures with apollo for the most part just have never seemd to look right. the daz figures had it locked up with that.

oh sorry joe i quoted the wrong post and can't figure out how to fix it.

Quote - my kids are apollo! they look cool

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2118200&user_id=567120&np&np

here's a couple of characters i love them

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1841472&user_id=567120&np&np

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1840290&user_id=567120&np&np

apollo totally totally kicks butt if you ask me. i still don't totally get his joints, but i'm working on them.

Yeah the kids rock but the adult guys are too "soft" looking compared to the DAZ males. The kids don't normally get that hard body when so young so apollo works sweetly for kids and soft round fat plumper characters....in my opinion anyway.

have you tried the define morph or the bodyfat ratio morp for your softness issues?

images posted 4 or more years ago and with the term Boris

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After cataloging everything in my runtime, I can state with some assurance that where other characters have 5-6 morphs, it was rare that I had less than 100 for Apollo...;)

HMM interesting Not sure about what "other characters" you have installed
but M2 ,which is now free,
has:
"Features- Michael 1 .Obj

Brand New .Cr2 with Michael 1 Morphs

Plus Hundreds of All New Morphs - 105 Full Body Morphs

243 Partial Body Morphs

230 Head and Facial Structure/Expression Morphs

.Cr2 and.Obj Files Modified to Fit Michael to the P4 Man Proportions

Endless Morph Combination Possibilities For Differing - Physique

Age

Weight

Height

Ethnicity

Characters

Compatible with Accessories, Textures, and Morphs for Michael 1.0

Compatible with Accessories made for the P4 Male

Genitalia Option"

This of course Excludes the now free Boris Morphs
and BTW for M2 Users I have been given permission
to redistribute the free "spubba troll" morph that give M2 larger hands, wrists& Feet
I will PM me if you would like it as well
see attached Image of the Morph.

Cheers

Hey dude do you have any addies where I can find images of Boris? I rember the name and I have a lot of Capsces animal works but nothing for M1/M2. Also the V2 rework she is talking about, Roxanne?

just look in the gallery.

images credited to Capsces - go to the end and go forward

images posted 4 or more years ago and with the term Roxanne

or just go to Capsces' site. i can't link directly much because her site is an old-fashioned frames site. but you can check out the "Beth's gallery." i also suggest going to the downloads page, scrolling to the bottom, and looking at what's available for "Lit'l uns/Roxanne/Boris."

At some point In the last year ByAnton accepted my friend request here.

I think that Apollo is still the best male figure in poser. Anton really knew what he was doing when he modelod Apollo. It's a fantastic mesh and so well rigged. I still use Apollo a lot and like him.

But the funny thing is, that when I released a freebie for Apollo, people pretty much told me that they'd rather like to see free stuff for vicky. Some guy even thought that my Apollo freebie was so horrible, that it only merited one star. He thought it was so bad, that it wasn't even worth commenting on. And maybe it was that bad. But the point being is, that lack of enthusiamism from the poser community is a big part of the demise of Apollo.

D'oh! Why do things that happen to stupid people keep happening to me?

Quote - I think that Apollo is still the best male figure in poser. Anton really knew what he was doing when he modelod Apollo. It's a fantastic mesh and so well rigged. I still use Apollo a lot and like him.

But the funny thing is, that when I released a freebie for Apollo, people pretty much told me that they'd rather like to see free stuff for vicky. Some guy even thought that my Apollo freebie was so horrible, that it only merited one star. He thought it was so bad, that it wasn't even worth commenting on. And maybe it was that bad. But the point being is, that lack of enthusiamism from the poser community is a big part of the demise of Apollo.

Don't let them get you down. you make great things. It's a detriment to the "art" of the average consumer that they don't appreciate the merits of Apollo, and really, really really really, don't let some guy who gives you a one star rating impact your evaluation of what you've made. You're the best modeler of superhero stuff we've got going. If some twit wants to give you one star because they can't recognize that Apollo is still a superior figure to M4, just don't pay attention to them. I had one asshat open up 16 accounts just to leave me one star ratings, and he'd use them all to drive my star ratings down, and when sharecg caught him and deleted his surplus accounts, he just did it again. Don't pay attention to that kind of feedback. People have all kinds of reasons for doing the things they do, the least of which is usually offering an honest critique of your work.