When I bring some of my mats into Vue 8, of a sudden, parts of them have gone from a scale of 1.0 to  scale of .10.

It's really annoying to have to go in and change them all back.  Is there a way to prevent this?

Thanks in advance,

M

Which ones?

Gill

       

 Well, it's not all of them and it's not every time.  And it's not all the mat parts. I'll apply one and a couple of layers down the mat has gone to .10. It's wierd.  The next mat will be fine. Then the one after that will have the same issue....

Oh...and I'm using 8.5.

M

So farall the ones I've looked at from each section have loaded at 1.00 in 8.4

Gill

       

 Could be related to this issue, which is one of several that have been reported relating to importing, textures, daz and poser into Vue 8+. [http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2804406

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Mark, I think this behavior is related to the Vue internal units setting in the preferences. When you use meters as we here in Europe do, the setting for the internal unit should be set to 0.1. If that is 1 then Vue tries to correct the materials to this new unit , therefore the 0.1 scaling makes sense.

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well, honestly yours are the only ones that do it for me. they go to a scale of .11- .22 but i use Imperial so maybe that has something to do with it ?

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Yes, right material scale in Vue8 should be 0.1 in meters, if your internal units are 1 unit=1 meter, which is the default.

Hm, whataI said didnt come out exactly right.

Let me refresh sincei cannot delete. yours are the only 3rd party materials I use, and yes thy do come in at .11-.22 but agaain, I use imperial for my modeling, so maybe this is why. What Bruno said makes sense in the realm if your using metric and someone else is using Imperial it will rescale itself ?

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 Thanks guys...I get it now.  I was just worried that it would change the look of the mat from what I made it in 7.4 but after a lot more testing last night it seems that it doesn't. That's a relief.

Paul, what matters is the internal unit system, which is always meters. So if internal units are set to 1 unit=1 meter materials that were there before Vue8 are now at 0.10 metre size (before Vue8, 1 unit= 0.1 meter), now your display units are in imperial units, so they must be smaller than before, but since I never understood imperial units (and never cared to, I must admit, I'm happy to be able to convert miles to kilometers when I'm in the US, and that's all I need, lol!), I can't help more on this.

So when imported what do you suggest ? scale it back up to 1.00 or leave it as it comes in ?

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yep moving to Europe from US myself, I can translate metric kilometers to miles, all i need as well :D

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I have my display units set to Imperial (automatic) because I'm an old fart and like to use what I always have done.  Plus we're still 'allowed' to use miles to determine distance here so I have no idea what kilometers work out to.   If they start putting them on our roadsigns instead of miles I'd be DOOMED :lol:

However, the internal '1 vue unit' is set to 0.1 metres as I recall having a very similar problem back in 6 or 7 when I set it to feet or yards or whatever.  Everything I loaded in was scaled at some silly figure.

Gill

       

Well I take back what I said earlier. After working with 8 more this am, it's not without troubles.....I've had to scale many of the layers back up to1 to get them to look right. And the nano previews are a clue if they don't look like the one in the browser. 

I don't know what I can change back in 7.4 to alleviate this in 8.5. 

Guess I should've been playing with 8 more lol......

M

I bet good ol'UK won't swap miles for km any time soon, Gill. Miles are easy, yards are something else completely. Most of the times, you don't need to change anything, Vue converts everything for you, but when it comes to mixed materials, or large scale materials, it may come in screwed up at the new size. And Mark, I suggest you don't change anything in 7.4, it will either come up well in 8, or just resave the material in 8 if it isn't converted right.
A problem can arise if you are creating content for Vue7 and up, I had this with my Hibiscus I sell at Corn. For some reason, the materials looked a lot better in Vue7 at 0.1 already , and for this reason, they were loaded at 0.01 in Vue 8 (which is logical), but didn't look good at such a small size. Then there isn't much you can do, except a readme asking the user to change material sizes in Vue8 manually, which isn't very nice.

Do you know that, as clearly described by this Wikipedia entry, the imperial length units are actually defined in terms of the metric system :lol:?

Miles to km: multiply by 1.6, or 8/5 or even simpler, 16/10 (i.e. double 4 times and move the decimal point left once); the error is less than 1%.

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Yes but I don't want to have to work out a distance either when I'm working in Vue or driving somewhere.  I know if it's 5 miles it'll take me 10-15 minutes depending on traffic.  A hill isn't considered a mountain unless it's 1000 feet or over.  I haven't a clue what that is in metres, centimetres or kilometers.    Blimey, it'd take me weeks just to work out the sizes before I even got started on a scene
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Similarly, it's a simple calculation to work out centigrade to farenheit.   I'll stick to farenheit thank u very much

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