I'm beta testing Bryce 7 and it appears from the latest announcement that there will be a Pro version and a Standard version..I'm now wondering what it's going to cost for the Pro version.

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=143119

 Well my guess is I'll be stuck at best like I am with Terragen2 with a crippled version as us fixed income seniors don't buy much except food....sigh.. ...

 

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hey, I'm stuck at 5.5...;) dang medications...coff coff...;)
Still, no reason those with money can't indulge...;)

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Your average user will probably not need the pro version.

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Daz cant have a too high price. if they do many will simply buy other programes

Quote - Daz cant have a too high price. if they do many will simply buy other programes

Or just stay with the uncrippled ones we already use.

 

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i guess i'll stay using b6

Is Bryce 7 pro really  powerful enough to warrant a pro version?

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Quote - Is Bryce 7 pro really  powerful enough to warrant a pro version?

Or even two versions?

Maybe the standard will be free and the Pro will cost money?  ???

Quote - Maybe the standard will be free and the Pro will cost money?  ???

That would be nice as I see no other way really for me to afford Br7........

 

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Vue 8 Pioneer is FREE. I carrys a small logo in the right bottom corner. You can upgrade in steps towards the REAL Vue 8. I should think that would be a much better way to do it for DAZ as well. B7 will not be as powerful even as Vue 6. Its a real pitty if DAZ prices B7 out of the market. I really like a lot of the new features in B7.

 I think the highest price I ever saw on Bryce was around $300.00. But I think even that was way high for what it is. Ultimately it's only the artists skill and imagination that are limiting and Bryce 5.5 is free. :)

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I am probably going to upgrade as B6.3 does not work very well for me.  I am also hoping for animation transfer between DS and Bryce to improve.

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Or just stay with the uncrippled ones we already use.

bobby is right,if daz are going to charge for B7 then it needs to be 100% stable and bug free otherwise why buy it when there are free versions available that are less buggy. I am OK with using a free app with a few bugs but paying a couple of hundred US (about $400NZ) for something that has been rushed through development for the sake of money won't do it for me. DAZ should go with the old saying "do it once and do it right". Just my 2 cents worth.

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 Y'all have to bear in mind that waaay back when Bryce 2 had just hit the stores I bought it and it was a buggy mess....MetaCreations never did reply to any of my enquiries and 2 weeks after I bought it they gave away the whole app and the fix ion Computer Arts....took a long time to come back to Bryce after that so I'm leery of being asked for more than small amounts of cash re: Bryce whatever version/owner...

 

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I'm just getting cross in that thread in Daz by the idiots asking for the interface to become more like Vue or Carrara,To be MORE PROFESSIONAL instead of hobbyist..

Damn I like the interface the way it is..and the suggestion that because I'm a hobbyist I should only have the Standard version..

Grrrr!.Double Grrrr.

 Yea I am with you on the interface. I like the Bryce interface. It's logical and still very different from others.

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Or just stay with the uncrippled ones we already use.
bobby is right,if daz are going to charge for B7 then it needs to be 100% stable and bug free otherwise why buy it when there are free versions available that are less buggy. I am OK with using a free app with a few bugs but paying a couple of hundred US (about $400NZ) for something that has been rushed through development for the sake of money won't do it for me. DAZ should go with the old saying "do it once and do it right". Just my 2 cents worth.

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It is my belief that DAZ is working very hard on B7 and is doing whatever it takes to ensure that it is not a buggy release that has been rushed to the market.  Look at how long it has been in development now.  I would not call that a rush job.

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Quote - It is my belief that DAZ is working very hard on B7 and is doing whatever it takes to ensure that it is not a buggy release that has been rushed to the market.  Look at how long it has been in development now.  I would not call that a rush job.

I agree...I've been beta testing it from the git-go and I can see it getting better and better.  I don't believe Daz is rushing it thru...they seem really excited about finally getting something done with it.

 

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There are still some bugs to be fixed though..The Sky presets bug still isn't fixed.

They just released B7.

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Quote - They just released B7.

Where?

 Check your meds Chris...the only products advertised at DAZ are the3 Bryce 6-6.3 products.. ...

 

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All I see is B7 Beta Pro Release Candidate 1 in the Bryce Talk forum.  There are still bugs to work out.  I know I have a slew of bug reports that have yet to be addressed as do others.  B7 is going to be awesome when it is finally turned loose.  The lighting improvements are amazing.

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 I meant currently for sale Dan.. ...

 

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Me too Bobby.  I should have noted I was replying to TheBryster.

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 heh heh heh

 

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I swear I got an advert about getting B7...something along the lines of buy B6 and get B7 cheap. Can't find the damn thing now.

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 All I could find in my trash was endless Carrera 8 adverts.. ...

 

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It is advertised in the DAZ forums (latest news and offers).

Ramon

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 Bit of a storm brewing vis a vis all of us l**ongtime supporters having to buy an upgrade** where anyone buying 6.+ now gets it free...I agree that is a rotten deal and would encourage me to invest all my cash in Terragen2 toute suite if that attitude stays.. ...

 

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The promotion is to buy Bryce 6.3 now and get version 7 for free when it's available.  Apparently the deal is not available if you already bought Bryce 6.3 earlier.

That is too bad.   If you want it to change the DAZ forum is the one to post your ire in.

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Quote - I swear I got an advert about getting B7...something along the lines of buy B6 and get B7 cheap. Can't find the damn thing now.

It said buy 6 now and get 7 pro free when its released.   Its a pre-order thingy.  If you already have 6 the upgrade price will be better.  I think you can buy 6 now for $35.

 

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 we shall see...it always seems to me when a developer is edgy about saying the price up front, it's often a price I personally on a fixed income, can not afford...we shall see

 

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This is exactly what Drew said:

**Okay, let me clarify a few things here.

1. We make this offer of buy 6 now and get Bryce 7 when it is released because that's basically what will happen anyway when Bryce 7 is released when you consider our 30-day return policy. If we don't make this offer and release Bryce 7 sometime in the next 30 days, anyone who has purchased it in those 30-days will return it anyway and get 7 free. This way we get to pre-announce Bryce 7 and make it so that anyone who purchases 6 in this time frame doesn't have to proactively ask for the return and then purchase 7. With this program, we just automatically put it in your account when 7 is release. There is no sinister motivation behind this program. In fact, it is the same thing exactly we offered with the new version of Carrara several months ago.

2. We cannot just give version 7 to anyone who has ever purchased a prior version of Bryce. This sounds good, but how would we recoup our development costs and stay in business. It is standard procedure for any software company to offer upgrade (discounted) pricing for people with prior versions, not to just give it away free. I'm curious to know of any software company that has the policy of buy it once and get every version after that free. If you know of one, let me know so I can study their business model and see how they make money. If it works for any company and they are still in business, that would be an intriguing business model to put in place.

3. We removed the upgrade from Bryce 5.5/5.0 to Bryce 6.3 because you can get 5.5 for free on download.com. It is not fair on many levels for people to download 5.5 for free and then purchase the upgrade product to Bryce 6.3. We should have done this long ago. That being said, there will be an upgrade option when Bryce 7 is released and that pricing will be better than the current option to buy Bryce 7 because we do want to give people who already own 6 (any version) an advantage.

4. When we say version 6 we specifically mean version 6.3. We don't even sell 6.0, 6.1, or 6.2 in the store. I'm not sure why we would say buy "6" and mean 6.0 when you can't even buy it. We mean the current, available version of Bryce. Hopefully, you don't think we would be playing games like that and then expect to retain any good will with our customers.

5. The introductory price for buying Bryce 7 outright when it is released will not be better than buying 6 now. It would be a bad thing for us to encourage customers to buy 6 now, give them 7 for free, and then offer a better deal to customers buying 7 when it is released. When we released the new version of Carrara several months ago, the new version was exactly the same price for the people who bought the prior version and got the current version free as for those who just bought the new version. Expect the same thing with Bryce.

We've not tried to be deceptive in any way and are following standard industry procedures with our pricing. Hopefully, this will clarify the concerns that customers are having in this thread. My apologies for not being more clear from the start.**

 

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 Well at least there's an apology for the lack of clarity that generated the somewhat hostile thread at DAZ...Communication 101 might be a good side course for Drew, heh heh heh...as I said...we shall see

 

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Quote - I swear I got an advert about getting B7...something along the lines of buy B6 and get B7 cheap. Can't find the damn thing now.

forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php

65% off on Bryce 6.3 and get a free upgrade to Bryce 7

Quote - "I swear I got an advert about getting B7...something along the lines of buy B6 and get B7 cheap. Can't find the damn thing now."

And you thought I was off my meds.

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65% off if you're a Platinum Club member.  50% off for everyone else which is just under $50 US.  So hopefully the upgrade will be less than $50... ?  At the least I hope they have some sort of sale promo when they release it.

Bryster's right.  I received the DAZ email stating that if you bought Bryce 6 you'd get Bryce 7 for free.  Then they rubbed it in that there would be a "special" price if you already owned Bryce 6 and were a Platinum member. 

So pay now, get something for free.  Pay earlier as a loyal customer, we're going to charge you???  No wonder the US economy is in the dumps....

Quote - Bryster's right.  I received the DAZ email stating that if you bought Bryce 6 you'd get Bryce 7 for free.  Then they rubbed it in that there would be a "special" price if you already owned Bryce 6 and were a Platinum member. 

So pay now, get something for free.  Pay earlier as a loyal customer, we're going to charge you???  No wonder the US economy is in the dumps....

No...read the post from Drew's explanation above and you will see that you are wrong.

 

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 I recommend they give out free cupcakes with each Bryce purchase....

Just saying...

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I understand Drew's comment, however, the method of advertising "Buy 6 get 7 free" just sounds deceptive.  The argument that someone would buy 6 only to return it and buy 7 is a little out of whack.

For instance:  knowing that B6 would become obsolete in two weeks when B7 is offered, who would buy it or have time to learn or use it?  Those of us that have B6 would expect to pay a reduced price to upgrade - Drew is right about that.  Why not just say, "B7 is here!  If you  have B6, this is your price.  If you don't, you have X number of days to get it at the upgrade price, after that, it's full price."

This would stimulate current owners and intrigue future customers.  Buy B6 and get B7 free is almost "bait and switch."  The reality isn't any different, only the perception, and in marketing, perception is everything (why else would we buy bottled water at 3x the cost of gasoline?).

Does Bryce 7 support multiple CPUs?

I only ask as the last version I used in anger was 5.0 which I think was single processor only.

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Quote - Does Bryce 7 support multiple CPUs?

I only ask as the last version I used in anger was 5.0 which I think was single processor only.

I believe so.

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**2) We cannot just give version 7 to anyone who has ever purchased a prior version of Bryce. This sounds good, but how would we recoup our development costs and stay in business. It is standard procedure for any software company to offer upgrade (discounted) pricing for people with prior versions, not to just give it away free. I'm curious to know of any software company that has the policy of buy it once and get every version after that free. If you know of one, let me know so I can study their business model and see how they make money. If it works for any company and they are still in business, that would be an intriguing business model to put in place.
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Pixlogic!! I paid for Zbrush 1.7 I believe it was and have gotten every version since then for FREE! Someone needs to go rub this in DAZ's face seeing as how they decided not to even fix the buggy version 6 completely!!

Whoa there!

I upgraded from 5.5 to Bryce 6 for $6 dollars..and all the subsequent upgrades were FREE..

I'm certainly NOT feeling cheated.

I don't even feel mad that I bought version 5 for $62 and v5.5 for $50 and they both ended up being given away free subsequently..

I think I got some bargains there.

Does Bryce 7 support multiple CPUs?

Yes - if you're talking about seperate PCs. It uses an add-on called Bryce Lightning which effectively creates a render-farm out of mutiple PCs.

If on the other hand you are talking about multiple processors in one pc, Bryce recognises them automaticaly and gives you multiple options on rendering priority.

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I have just bought a machine with the i7 processor, so I was wondering how it might work with Bryce, and whether the Pro version and Standard version differ in how many CPUs they recognise.

While I think about it, is Bryce 7 going to be 64bit?

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Quote - I have just bought a machine with the i7 processor, so I was wondering how it might work with Bryce, and whether the Pro version and Standard version differ in how many CPUs they recognise.

While I think about it, is Bryce 7 going to be 64bit?

I don't think so..but why not find out over at Daz..there are several threads about it.Look through the beta testing threads

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I thought you were using Vue

Yes indeed, and will continue to do so.

My last machine had Bryce 6.3 on it as a curiosity, (I was intrigued by the boolean mesh export) but didn't bother installing it on the new machine - it has its uses, but only because it is very cheap.

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I'm afraid I know nothing about Macs. However, I think DAZ/Studio has or will have a 64bit version.

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Quote - I'm afraid I know nothing about Macs. However, I think DAZ/Studio has or will have a 64bit version.

There is already a 64 bit version of Daz  Studio3.

Quote - "Does Bryce 7 support multiple CPUs?

I have a quad core machine and B6.  When you set render priority to high, it utilizes all four cores. 

Or are you referring to multiple physical cpu's ?  Then I think Bryster's comment about Lightning may apply.

More to do with 'virtual' rather than 'physical'.

The i7 is seen as 8 CPUs by Vue Complete.

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I dont think anyone could complain about the pricing. Just over 20§ for B6.3 wich will GIVE you the new B7 isnt even four beers out on the town where I live. :-)

Gotta love a guy that compares prices to beers....

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**Well, there's a company called **DAZ **that gives away a software called DAZStudio and all its updates for free...

But I suppose we shouldn't be too hard on DAZ for not giving away Bryce updates for free.  Afterall, they do give DAZStudio (basic version) for free, and all their base figures for free, and lots of other nice free items over the years.  Not a bad deal from them at all.

I paid $159 at a store in 2000 for the Bryce 5 upgrade from Bryce 2.  My girlfriend at the time thought I was nuts to pay that much for something that was used to "do what?!"

I still have the free Bryce 5.5 from CNET Downloads.

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Quote - Quote from Drew at DAZ:  "I'm curious to know of any software company that has the policy of buy it once and get every version after that free. If you know of one, let me know so I can study their business model and see how they make money."

Well, there's a company called DAZ that gives away a software called DAZStudio and all its updates for free...

Did they mention that Pixologic gives ZBrush upgrades away for free after you buy the current version?  They are still around.

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Quote -  Bit of a storm brewing vis a vis all of us longtime supporters having to buy an upgrade where anyone buying 6.+ now gets it free...I agree that is a rotten deal and would encourage me to invest all my cash in Terragen2 toute suite if that attitude stays.. ...

 
It's not free if they have to buy Bryce 6.

Anyway, if you have Bryce 6 already, the price for buying Bryce Pro 7 will be cheaper than buying Bryce 6 again.

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Well I got Bryce 6 for $6 dollars..from Daz. and the following two upgrades to 6.1 and 6.3 were free.

As Bryce 6 is presently selling for $34  under the present offer I guess someone might see it as a bargain..

 I believe they said at DAZ initially it will not be 64 bit but will eventually...I could be wrong.. ...

 

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Quote - I paid $159 at a store in 2000 for the Bryce 5 upgrade from Bryce 2.  My girlfriend at the time thought I was nuts to pay that much for something that was used to "do what?!"

My god I'v been messing about for 10 years now.

Quote - My god I'v been messing about for 10 years now.

As long as you're not that scientist colony guy in Star Trek after a fight with Spock who realizes that no work had been done after 10 years on the planet.

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Quote - Gotta love a guy that compares prices to beers....

beer today, gone tomorrow

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Worth a look if only to get an insight to how to find the particle emitter and how David Brinnen does volumetric clouds in Bryce 7

The instancing lab will be fun.  It has taken a while to work the bugs out for me.  I like the look of the new volumetrics and the new lighting options in the Pro version.  I hope the bugs get worked out in the DS to Bryce bridge because I sure would like to render some animations of people in Bryce.

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it seems like daz usually offers its regular customers super reasonable deals and even freebies on its upgrades. then it puts a big price tag up there for the general public. daz realizes the importance of keeping its products popular and in use. they know renderosity users and people like most of us at this forum publish a lot and show off our stuff which is free adverts for daz. i'm still worried though because i haven't seen any breaks on the new carrara pro. j hate it when companies offer the standard and pro versions. even when the standard version is of a high standard, i still feel like i'm getting ripped and that i am a second class citizen.

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