Forum: Suggestion Box


Subject: Draw Muhammad day May 20th 2011

Daidalos opened this issue on Sep 16, 2010 · 12 posts


Daidalos posted Thu, 16 September 2010 at 10:36 AM

Renderosity, as an American company, should join this artist, in standing up for free speech, and free artistic expression by hosting an event here.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/comic-riffs/2010/09/report_draw_muhammad_cartoonis.html


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CaptainJack1 posted Thu, 16 September 2010 at 10:53 AM

As an American myself who's bothered to actually read the various Supreme Court rulings on interpretation of freedom of speech, I would say that it would be a very bad idea for any "American company" to participate in or even endorse such an inflammatory, immature, rude, and insensitive concept.

Of course, if you're just making a bad joke, please, do carry on. I guess.


LaurieA posted Thu, 16 September 2010 at 12:41 PM

I think Renderosity would do much better to stay out of stuff like this...

That's not free speech. That's a total and complete lack of respect for someone's religion, total idiocy and an irresponsible use of so-called "free speech".

Laurie



LaurieA posted Thu, 16 September 2010 at 12:56 PM

BTW, I love when ppl call shit like this free speech when it's really a free pass to be an ass ;o).

Laurie



Warlock279 posted Thu, 16 September 2010 at 3:32 PM

Agreed this is not something Rosty should endorse in any way shape or form. I'm torn on the matter personally. If it could be done responsibly, tastefully and with proper satire and some measure of respect, it'd be a great show of support for the cartoonists who were persecuted, [the cartoonist from Denmark who was killed for his cartoons, the South Park team having received death threats, and more recently with the Seattle cartoonist[, but there's a delicate line between satire and an outright attack, and I've little doubt [call me pessimistic] an event like this will result in anything short of, as CaptainJack said, immature inflammatory material. Its really an overreaction to an overreaction, and its become a great big mess.

In defense of the event, so far as I know, none of those cartoonists did anything worse than is done daily with any political figure or any other religious figure/icon/deity/entity/being, why should one religious figure get special exception from satire? While a religion might forbid the depiction of a certain figure, it surely grants them no right to bring harm to anyone, regardless of beliefs.

Just as you have the right to say what you will of any party within reasonable bounds, freedom of speech grants that party the same rights of you, however any party's rights end when they infringe upon another's, and that's often a murky grey-ish area. When it becomes an organized persecution tho, its starts to step out of the grey and into the black. I think we, as artists, could all probably use a refresher course on what is granted by freedom of speech, and what is an abuse of freedom of speech. We could probably use a refresher on copyright laws as well, but that's another story.

Daidolos, I've no issue with those who do choose to participate, tho I'd like to see and feel it would be most poignant if done with respect, but I don't think Rosty should advocate anything that targets or excludes anyone. Also bear in mind, this is Rosty's playground, and your freedom of speech is, as is true for most of the internet, not wholly guaranteed.

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Jumpstartme2 posted Fri, 17 September 2010 at 11:28 AM

Lets keep it civil people..and thanks for the suggestion Daidalos.

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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AnnieD posted Fri, 17 September 2010 at 8:55 PM

I agree with CaptainJack and LaurieA about rosity participating..
I would lose respect for the site and would not stay here if such a thing happened.

 

“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.”

[Stuart Chase]


CaptainJack1 posted Fri, 17 September 2010 at 9:18 PM

Quote - Lets keep it civil people...

Sorry, Miss Jumps... I reset my hot button and installed a slightly longer fuse, which should take care of it.

I'll be nice, promise. 😄


Jumpstartme2 posted Mon, 20 September 2010 at 12:57 PM

😉

~Jani

Renderosity Community Admin
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hollivals posted Thu, 23 September 2010 at 11:26 AM

No way, it's only going to make the world more fragile than it already is.
It's much better to try and build a bridge between east and west through art.


hollivals posted Wed, 29 September 2010 at 1:55 PM

Quote - the cartoonist from Denmark who was killed for his cartoons..

He is still alive, but some mentally disturbed person broke into his house with an axe and he managed to escape into a specially built shelter. Moreover he is guarded by police 24/7 and a guy just got arrested in Denmark after a bomb went off in his hotel room, he had a map with that news papers HQ circled.

So, be carefull what you wish for.


Warlock279 posted Thu, 30 September 2010 at 2:30 PM

Ah, thanks for clarifying that, I seem to have been confusing the cartoonist from Denmark with Theo van Gogh, the Dutch director, who was referenced in the threats made toward the South Park camp.

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