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Subject: How many people would like to see more dynamic clothes?


BionicRooster ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2010 at 2:52 PM
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Quote - Yep, that and if your character has a special morph, like muscles or curves or something else, the clothing will naturally form around that too.

 

I was just telling someone that trick in the chat room today :o)

                                                                                                                    

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gaff ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2010 at 2:53 PM

Quote - > Quote - BR, you are awesome.

 

Thank you CW :o)  I'm trying.

Here's the robe now. I redid the uvmapping and made a new texture. Still have a little more to do on the texture, but it's getting close to completion.

 

Sorry, a little "morning" humor here.... hehehe

:lol:

Anyway, excellent work with the robe.

Would it be possible to make a roman toga?


BionicRooster ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2010 at 2:56 PM
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It would be totally possible to make a Roman toga. I'll probably start working on it when I get this robe finished.

                                                                                                                    

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DarkElegance ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2010 at 3:36 PM

I would love to see more dynamic clothing..particulary togas. in true grecian styles. with lovely gathers etc....

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gaff ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2010 at 3:44 PM

Really? Wow that sounds fantastic. Now you got me thrilled!

With all this Spartacus/ Gladiator stuff around it´s about time for some clothing for both the Patricians and the Plebeians.

Looking forward to see your work!

 


raven ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2010 at 4:30 PM

That certainly does look like a little morning glory going on under that robe! :)



BionicRooster ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2010 at 11:02 PM
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Ok, I think I am done. I made a version with a pocket as well.

Here's what it looks like.

It'll be ready for download soon!

                                                                                                                    

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saibabameuk ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2010 at 3:11 AM

Hi Rooster

Will I be able to remove the pocket? , the idea of the Robe is that it is simplicity its self, the wearer, has no need for wordly attachments. 

I must say it realy is splendid.


BionicRooster ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2010 at 8:29 AM
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Attached Link: Robe for M4

There's 2 versions. 1 with, and 1 without the pocket. The pocket is modeled, so it needed to be 2 meshes. But anyways, it's available at the link above. Enjoy!

                                                                                                                    

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burntime ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2010 at 12:03 PM

great to see you all talking about Dynamic clothing, big fan of it myself :)


lkendall ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2010 at 12:12 PM

Thanks!

LMK

Probably edited for spelling, grammer, punctuation, or typos.


BionicRooster ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2010 at 12:59 PM
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You're welcome! Made a fit for V4, it will be in my freebies as well as soon as Rendo approves it.

                                                                                                                    

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Magic_Man ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 5:22 AM

Thanks, much appreciated.


gaff ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 1:12 PM

Outstanding work!


Vestmann ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 1:25 PM

Thanks for the helpful links and downloads BionicRooster!




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BionicRooster ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 1:37 PM
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Quote - Thanks, much appreciated.

Quote - Outstanding work!

 

Thank you, I appreciate all the support :o)

 

Quote - Thanks for the helpful links and downloads BionicRooster!

 

You're very welcome, I enjoy giving to the great community that helped me along the way of learning all this stuff

                                                                                                                    

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jartz ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 4:01 PM

Thank you so much for making these.  It's nice to know that dynamic cloth is gaining some interest.  I look forward to any stuff that you do.

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saibabameuk ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 4:43 PM

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> Quote - > Quote - Thanks, much appreciated. > > > Quote - Outstanding work! > >   > > Thank you, I appreciate all the support :o) > >   > > > Quote - Thanks for the helpful links and downloads BionicRooster! > >   > > You're very welcome, I enjoy giving to the great community that helped me along the way of learning all this stuff

Hey Rooster

It works , you have a winner.

I did not understand Dynamic Concept, and when you said Dynamic , I hushed my mouth.

and waited , well it works i took your tuition link followed the  advice and now I have 15

Second toward my .mov with Dynamic clothing.

No, I am not going to ask you for a Tiger Hunters clothing with a hat 1939 X military uniform English Colonial Officer.

Becouse that would be just trying it on.

However I will shout from the top of the tree ( Thank You )

So will the Tigers I am sure.

 


Cyberwoman ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 5:26 PM

Hey BR, I thought you might like to see this. I made a character last night with a bunch of the Steph 4 morphs, and I didn't have time to transfer them to my conforming clothes so I dropped your Egyptian Dress on her. Fit perfectly with a little scaling through the animation, while the conforming clothes placed her tank top straps four inches above her shoulders...

The shadows are weird, I know. She is actually floating a bit above the ground... that's how little time I spent with this. The dress worked great!

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BionicRooster ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 6:33 PM · edited Sat, 13 November 2010 at 6:36 PM
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You guys don't know how relieved I am to see that the clothes aren't just falling apart for you all lol

I am glad you are able to get some use out of them. I have a very talented artist making textures for the dress/nightie set, so I hope that will be a good 1st dynamic clothes for my store. I do have the toga to make in the meantime.

By the way, the egyptian dress looks pretty good as a formal dress :o)

                                                                                                                    

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Cyberwoman ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2010 at 8:42 PM

It makes a very nice long sheath dress, actually. I would like to put a gold belt with it to match the collar, but I have to make a new gold shader for the belt first (apparently the metal shader from my earring pack doesn't translate too well to cloth :biggrin: )

Tezla (the character in the image) thanks you for making clothes that she can wear without wasting time in the Morphing Cloth utility!

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BionicRooster ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 12:12 AM
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Now when you say "Tiger hunter's clothing with hat", do you mean the traditional Safari type clothing? Here's a hat I whipped up while watching tv tonight, see if this is the style you mean.

 

                                                                                                                    

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ShaaraMuse3D ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 2:50 AM

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Just submitted a shirt I made quite some time ago to the freestuff. :) I made it originally for a character in a visual novel I'm playing around with, and since I haven't intended to make it into a full product (with different texture options and all that jazz) I'm giving it out. 

I'm calling it "mystic shirt", and it comes with a medium res and a very high res version. It's made for curvier characters, and may look very very loose on someone thinner, but if you parent the shirt to her and scale her down in the starting pose, you can make the shirt smaller on her in the final pose. The high res version will give you very detailed drapes, but can take quite a while to calculate. 

We'll see when it comes through, but this is what it looks like :)


saibabameuk ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 6:45 AM

Quote - Now when you say "Tiger hunter's clothing with hat", do you mean the traditional Safari type clothing? Here's a hat I whipped up while watching tv tonight, see if this is the style you mean.

 

You certainly know how to make a grown man cry!!!

Yes


saibabameuk ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 7:00 AM

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saibabameuk ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 7:09 AM

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> Quote - As you have shown an interest in The English White Hunter Story you may wish to see the following Pose.


saibabameuk ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 7:14 AM

Sorry about the repeat, I am sending the doc. by blue tooth from my laptop. Lost the plot!!


MagnusGreel ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 7:52 AM

Quote - Now when you say "Tiger hunter's clothing with hat", do you mean the traditional Safari type clothing? Here's a hat I whipped up while watching tv tonight, see if this is the style you mean.

 

 

a Pith Helmet (other styles here http://www.google.ca/images?q=pith+helmet&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=denfTPnUDNiRnAfR3_yjDw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEkQsAQwAw&biw=1280&bih=803 )

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BionicRooster ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 10:07 AM
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So Magnus, what ya saying? You want me to make the "Jumanji" type thats pointed in the front and back? :oP lol

                                                                                                                    

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saibabameuk ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 10:16 AM

Bionic Rooster

Back home on my Broad Band,just came down the motorway it is a wonder there are not more deaths on the road in the UK, the weather was realy bad for driving like motoring through a bucket of water. The hat for me is great . Is it available?.


BionicRooster ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2010 at 10:50 AM
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No, it's not available yet, I just threw a texture on it to see if that was what you were talking about. Just need to add a few details, so it should hopefully be in my freebies by tomorrow.

 

BTW, glad to hear you made it back safely :o)

                                                                                                                    

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BionicRooster ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2010 at 11:21 AM
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Nice shirt Grappo, I know what ya mean about the high poly stuff draping better, I usually hit my stuff with at least 1 sub-d before bringing it into Poser. And the beauty of dynamic clothing, is, it doesn't matter if it was made for someone else (bigger or smaller) with a little scaling in the cloth sim and anything can pretty much fit anybody.

                                                                                                                    

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Steeleyes101 ( ) posted Sun, 28 November 2010 at 9:55 AM

Wow I have not been receiving notifications about these updates saibabameuk

 where can I get that outfit??????


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 4:15 AM

I'd love to see more dynamic clothes. I'd kill to see improvements to the cloth room. Well, not kill, but seriously maim. Okay, maybe not maim, but definitely insult. Well... you get my drift.

Is it only me?

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Cage ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 2:10 PM

Quote - I'd love to see more dynamic clothes. I'd kill to see improvements to the cloth room. Well, not kill, but seriously maim. Okay, maybe not maim, but definitely insult. Well... you get my drift.

Is it only me?

I'd be prepared to be deliberately insulting, if it would just guarantee that they won't do something to break the cloth room.  :lol:  I'm practicing my insulting hand gestures from foreign lands, in preparation.  And I'm using phrases like "foreign lands", which might be vaguely insulting somehow, too.  So I've got that going on.

More dynamic clothes could be wonderful.  :woot:  Especially if they'll work with Antonia.  :woot:  :woot:

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ShaaraMuse3D ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 2:14 PM

Anyone who wants more dynamic clothes for a character they need them for should start making them (and make them available to others).. That's what I did. :)


ice-boy ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 2:33 PM

would it be so hard to make the cloth room better? would they need to do some rewritting?


Steeleyes101 ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 3:10 PM

I would also like to see Poser and DAZ work together so that we could use the same dynamics in Poser and DAZ.    I like working on pieces with others but lots of people I know use DAZ not Poser and their Dynamics and Shaders just dont work together


ShaaraMuse3D ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 3:23 PM

Yeah that's a tricky one.  It's difficult to solve probably since they have licensed different cloth engines from the start...


MagnusGreel ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 3:26 PM

Quote - Anyone who wants more dynamic clothes for a character they need them for should start making them (and make them available to others).. That's what I did. :)

 

well in theory (and to somewhat in practice) you can use the same dynamics on various figures.

 

and get more realistic results.. I mean.. how many people wear perfectly tailored to them clothes over off the rack "thats close enough" we all do?

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ShaaraMuse3D ( ) posted Sat, 04 December 2010 at 3:29 PM

This is true. Making conversions is fairly easy at least if the figure has the same gender. It can be tricky though if the clothing has parts that are made to be fit more snugly, like specific constrained groups.  But of course with some work those can be converted, too.


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 12:40 AM

Quote - would it be so hard to make the cloth room better? would they need to do some rewritting?

Some things like labeling would take no time at all to improve.

Interface? Well, I think it needs to be re-thought, and perhaps they could have a look at what current technology is offering (like what you suggested at some point in the recent past, ice-boy).

Despite what SM think, there are still some unresolved bugs. Given the fact that so little has changed over the versions of Poser, I wonder if SM is just waiting for the users to vote it out of the programme.

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estherau ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 12:51 AM

I would never vote it out. It is incredibly useful for say draping a sheet over a sleeping in bed character.

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ShaaraMuse3D ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 1:53 AM

If it was voted out of the programme it would be the day I'd stop using Poser and go somewhere else.


ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 2:04 AM

maybe a plug in for an external cloth simulator?

 

how much is Syflex for one user?


ShaaraMuse3D ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 2:35 AM

I don't think the cloth room was any harder to understand, than how to get conforming clothing working for a custom morphed figure. (Which is still a lot of work, especially if I want clothing to look natural)

Anything that's more advanced than slapping some clothing unto a basic, unmorphed figure takes some figuring out. Take the material room...

What could be greatly beneficial for newbies would be a clothroom wizard.  Can probably be done as a python script based tutorial.   It can lead the user through the basic steps of the cloth room.  Load or import the clothing, set a simulation, clothify and so on..   Could even add a more advanced tutorial on top of it to learn some more advanced features too, like how to use the different groups and so on.

As far as user interface goes, I don't know what would make it more accessible?


ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 2:37 AM

the thing is that there is not just one stepp for cloth simulations. it always depends on the pose.

 

 

 


ShaaraMuse3D ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 2:39 AM

What do you mean with one step, what are you after?


BionicRooster ( ) posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 11:42 AM · edited Sun, 05 December 2010 at 11:47 AM
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Attached Link: Cloth Room Settings and their Effect

the "one step" would be conforming clothes. Dynamic clothes need multiple frames because it is used for animations. So if you want an animation of a woman in a skirt or dress walking, the dress(or skirt) will sway and move as it should, swishing back and forth. I personally don't have any problem using the cloth room now that I have an idea of what I am donig. I posted a link in the beginning of this thread (I think) of the cloth settings and their effects, to get different cloth types, from denim to rubber to silk. It's been a big help to me, but I do think SM should include some cloth presets along with the advanced controls. That would make it so much less intimidating to people.

 

Edit: I didn't find the link in this thread so I added it to this post.

                                                                                                                    

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Asuyuka ( ) posted Mon, 06 December 2010 at 9:53 PM

I would love you if you were to make dynamic clothes.  Forever.  Dear god, YES.

It's one of my favorite things of Poser over DAZ (=Dynamic comes with the program), and I would kill for much much much more of it!

Even using some free stuff in a pic I'm working on as we speak! XP;


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