Forum: Carrara


Subject: What is the best way to create an animated GIF?

ominousplay opened this issue on Nov 30, 2010 · 20 posts


ominousplay posted Tue, 30 November 2010 at 11:48 PM

I'm trying to have an animation with a gif, no background color - transparent, and a good quality.  I've tried several combinations but none seem to work well.

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MarkBremmer posted Wed, 01 December 2010 at 6:54 AM

Carrara won't render a .gif with a transparent background. The usual trick is to make a colored background close to the background that the gif will be residing on  and then delete the background color frame by frame in a Photoshop or gifmaker. 

That said, transparent .gif files are always problematic because there will always be a "fringe" color around the objects unless you don't mind a truly pixelated edge. Gif files are soooooooo 1990's. :D

Mark






ominousplay posted Wed, 01 December 2010 at 10:08 AM

Thanks Mark, I agree, but unless I want to dive into Flash again, I don't know what to do.  I'd like a transparent character on my website: animated, "floating" over the page with a transparent backgrount.  Any ideas?

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Antaran posted Wed, 01 December 2010 at 11:20 AM

I'd render the animation frame by frame with alpha channel and make the gif in Photoshop or Gimp or a trial GIF Maker (or any other available utility that can link individual images into an animated GIF).

Would that work or am I misunderstanding the problem?


Xerxes0002 posted Wed, 01 December 2010 at 11:31 AM

Quote - I'd render the animation frame by frame with alpha channel and make the gif in Photoshop or Gimp or a trial GIF Maker (or any other available utility that can link individual images into an animated GIF).

Would that work or am I misunderstanding the problem?

This is what I was going to suggest.  Just render to a .tiff or a .psd depending on what program you are going to use.  I made some animated icons this way using GIMP at the time.


Miss Nancy posted Wed, 01 December 2010 at 8:48 PM

in carrara the best way IMVHO: render to an uncompressed mov file, then open mov file in CS3 or later, then CSx has a buttload of options for saving anim.gif with transparent bg.  carrara doesn't have enuff gif options.



ominousplay posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 5:49 PM

I feel like a dope.  What is CS3 again?  Corell Studio?  I really want to render some sweet gifs with transparent backgrounds...  or Flash if necessary.  My goal is to have an animated character with transparent background to add to a webpage. 

Thanks for the help!

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Miss Nancy posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 6:29 PM

 

cs3e = photoshop (with anim. and 3D options).



ominousplay posted Sun, 05 December 2010 at 6:46 PM

I'll look into it... photoshop. thanks!

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ominousplay posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 3:19 PM

Okay, was able to play with photoshop. Need to shrink the file a bit but it works.  It is not easy with all the images, having to edit each and make a multitude of layers.

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ominousplay posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 3:23 PM

Now to deal with the white glow...

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Antaran posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 4:00 PM

Did you output fragment coverage render pass? It outputs the contour that you see as the white fringe here. Using it as a mask or for selection purposes you can easily delete the fringe from all the images.

I normally use it to get rid of unwanted edges in the alpha channel.


ominousplay posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 5:03 PM

no... now I'm looking into what you suggested.  This is in the layers or when saved as a gif?  Does each frame of layer need a mask?  This is really getting into a photoshop questions...hope this is okay.  Can you explain in a little more detail Antaran?

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Antaran posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 5:16 PM

This is a pass layer in Carrara, that usually renders as a separate image (I'm not sure whether it can be embeded or not). 

When you prepare your individual frames for combining in Photoshop, get rid of the fringe first, then add it as a layer for the gif animation. This way your layers in photoshop won't be dragging confusing maps around.

If you just want to alter the existing GIF, you will need a mask for every layer to consistently get rid of all the fringe.

Also, how are you aligning your layers in Photoshop?


ominousplay posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 5:24 PM

I tried masking each layer.  The origional were not aligned well.

Here is another attempt, and in a small size.

Thank you!

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ominousplay posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 5:36 PM

new try - and I'll delete some of these older posts - sorry.  It is easier for me to try online like this...

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Antaran posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 6:00 PM

I think it's almost perfect now :) Good job!


ominousplay posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 6:04 PM

 

Thanks!  I do want to get rid of the last bit of white, so I'm still playing with it.  I see what you are saying about cleaning off the white before creating the layers - again, thank!

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Miss Nancy posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 9:34 PM

I'm not getting the white edge on a transparent render with a white bg in APS using best transparent gif options.
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maybe render of einstein needs to be fully transparent.



Miss Nancy posted Sun, 12 December 2010 at 10:59 PM

I can get rid of the white edge sparklers with a black matte, but ultimately the matte colour would be the page bgcolour, which wouldn't work if it's like this forum: users can select their own forum bgcolour.
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