Why doe's every 'stinking per'son on the entire internet u'se extra apo'strophe's for 'so many different word's that have NO NEED FOR A FREAKING APOSTROPHE!!!???

It wasn't not so bad when it was just people doing this in emails and forum posts, but it has invaded the world of announcements and formal writing, and it is absolutely irritating. See the new newsletter coupon announcement for the exact thing that set me off and caused me to post this: SUPERFLUOUS APOSTROPHES, USED INCONSISTENTLY! The following passage should be punishable by death:

"Just last month we had given away numerous Renderosity Gift Certificates, Wacom Tablets, Digital Camera's, Ipod's, Software, Flash Drives and much, much more!"

Please do everyone, including yourself, a huge favor and read the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe

Also, thanks for the cool coupon :-)

You're so right. One can get upset when one's language gets butchered. Just be grateful that we don't have to contend with all those thee's and thou's any more ;) 

Speaking of pet language peeves ...

They're going to create more problems with their apostrophies over there, no? :lol:

.......... For those of you in Rio Linda ...

They're = a contraction of They are

their = means it belongs to them, e.g., it's their party

there = a place or location, e.g., put the object over there in the corner

Here endeth the lesson. (yup, just watched "Untouchables" again)

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The most prevalent error around these parts (graphics forums) seems to be confusion of where and were, as in  "I saw were you where a phyton programer".

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the fault is not so much that it's ignorance; perhaps, in an ironic way, the usage become fashionable. (But I have an 'its' problem meself...;)

To, two, and too have their misrule applied here as well. To be honest, misspelling actually seems an art form of its' own...;)

 

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

The one that gets me every time is writing "would have" the way it's pronounced "would of" :)

As in, I would of been on time if I had woken up earlier.   Come on people, it's have been, not of been!!  "Of" is a preposition, not a verb!

Quote - The one that gets me every time is writing "would have" the way it's pronounced "would of" :)

As in, I would of been on time if I had woken up earlier.   Come on people, it's have been, not of been!!  "Of" is a preposition, not a verb!

YEAH, and a preposition is something that you should never end a sentence up with. :scared:

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Does anyone here still remember the difference between infer, and imply?

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Quote - > Quote - The one that gets me every time is writing "would have" the way it's pronounced "would of" :)

As in, I would of been on time if I had woken up earlier.   Come on people, it's have been, not of been!!  "Of" is a preposition, not a verb!

YEAH, and a preposition is something that you should never end a sentence up with. :scared:

Texan professor and an Oxford professor are chilling at a conference bar. The Texan professor, bored, looks to the Oxford professor and strikes up a conversation.
"So there partner, where y'all from?"
Oxford prof. replies, pushing his glasses to his nose: "Well, in reply to your query, I hail from Oxford. In addition, where I come from, we never end our sentences in a preposition."
The Texan prof. blinks once, shrugs his shoulders and drawls, "My apologies! What I mean to say is 'where y'all from, asshole?'"

so it means that "where are you from?" is incorrect?

Quote - Does anyone here still remember the difference between infer, and imply?

 

this is for you ;)

 

I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue - Uxbridge English Definitions - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsD3e5Yq6xM&feature=related

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* *

Yeah, if yuze gits in trouble yuze don't know what yer infer.

I'll need to ask da NaySayGuy about imply but I'm sure he will know.

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So, what is the difference between illegal and unlawful?

Huh, huh, huh? :blink:

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Illegal:

Adjective: illegal  i'lee-gul

1. Prohibited by law or by official or accepted rules
         "an illegal chess move"

Noun: illegal  i'lee-gul

1. Someone who has entered a country illegally, is staying longer than allowed by their visa, or is working without a work permit
         - illegal immigrant

Derived forms: illegals

 

Unlawful:

Adjective: unlawful  ,ún'lo-ful

   1. Not conforming to legality, moral law, or social convention
      "unlawful banking practices";
      - improper, unconventional
      
   2. Contrary to or prohibited by or defiant of law
      "unlawful measures"; "unlawful money"; "unlawful hunters"
      
   3. Not morally right or permissible
      "unlawful love"
      
   4. Having no legally established claim
      "the unlawful heir to the throne";
      - wrongful
      
   5. Contrary to or forbidden by law
      "unlawful measures";
      - illegitimate, illicit, outlaw, outlawed

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Well, you got the 'unlawfull' one correct but ...

An illegal is a large sick bird. :laugh:

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*... and this implies ......... what?

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Quote - Well, you got the 'unlawfull' one correct but ...

An illegal is a large sick bird. :laugh:

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So, the one prisoner says to the other prisoner, "So, what are you infer?"

... and this implies ......... what?

 

Your are mistaken sir, that's Ill-Eagle, not Illegal.  And aside from that, Eagle is spelled E-A-G-L-E, not Egal or whatever!

And it's not just a bird, but:

Eagle:

Noun: eagle  ee-gul

1. Any of various large keen-sighted diurnal birds of prey noted for their broad wings and strong soaring flight

• bird of Jove

2. (golf) a score of two strokes under par on a hole
3. A former gold coin in the United States worth 10 dollars
4. An emblem representing power
   "the Roman eagle"

Verb: eagle  ee-gul1. (golf) shoot two strokes under par
"She eagled the hole";

• double birdie

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you've got a very litteral mind haven't you? problems with puns?

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... and this implies ......... what?

 

One might infer from the implication that the prisoner hasn't had a long aquaintance with his new neighbor!

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Sikorsky:

A sky jump located on a helicopter.

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Oh, I thought it meant he wuz gonna throw up or jump (yuk,yuk) :lol:

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Imply -

 

Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball star of all time.  I saw imply in person.

Picasso, to those who saw imply his trade first hand, wasn't considered a great artist.

Very good fib.

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Apache:

A visable mend in Che Guevara's BDU's

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Sewage.

 

Lawyer work.

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The apostrophe thing just slays me every time I see it.  Also the there, their, they're and were, where.  I can understand people who don't have English as a first language, but those who  do have no excuse.  

I think it doesn't help that we live in a short hand society.  Text, email, etc. all with the funny ways of making things as succinct as possible, but there is a point where (such as in a notice going out to customers) that it should stop and rules should be followed.

Makes me wonder if we will have a recognizable language in a few decades as quickly as it's devolving.

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Hey DA,

Y due U sa that? :lol:

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I ran that sentence through MS Word Perfect's Grammar Talk. It's a grammatically correct sentence.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi

Quote - Hey DA,

Y due U sa that? :lol:

i don knz :lolz:

Hey Linda,

What the heck is ":lolz:?"

da NSG wants 2 no. :lol:

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Quote - > Quote - "Just last month we had given away numerous Renderosity Gift Certificates, Wacom Tablets, Digital Camera's, Ipod's, Software, Flash Drives and much, much more!"

 

I ran that sentence through MS Word Perfect's Grammar Talk. It's a grammatically correct sentence.

Just because a grammar or spell check approves something doesn't mean it is correct.  We depend too much on these tools instead of proof reading with a critical eye and ear.  (If in doubt, read it aloud.  I often catch things if I just read them out loud.)

Camera's  is not the plural of Camera.  It should be Cameras.  If I said, 'The Camera's lens set, then that would be correct because the apostrophe makes it a possessive noun.   Same with most English nouns.   'There are books (plural) on the table.   The book's (possessive) cover is torn.

It's a fairly easy rule, but one followed less and less today.  

Delaney

The grammar checker is simply wrong - while Camera's and Ipod's can be legitimate, they need an object to be posessed and there isn't one in the quoted sentence so it is ungrammatical.

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I don't.  Ever. :P

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So... is the plural of our acronym for "joint-controlled morphs" JCM's, or JCMs?    'Cause Wikipedia's not so helpful on that point, as far as I can see.  :unsure:

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JCMs.

 

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egal

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Try this conversation on for size:

Lady: Why does everyone think ur stupid if ur a hairdressor? I happen to have a Master's Degree!

Peanut Galley: Maybe if you used You're and Your instead of ur and ur they wouldn't think that?

Lady: I happen to keep up with the times Mathusala! Go crawl back under ur rock!

Peanut Gallery: So much for your Masters Degree! You can stop whining about people thinking you're stupid because you're a hair dresser!

geeze DP....that was necessary.

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LAURIE !!!! WATCH OUT !!!!!

ur morphin in2 a kat !!!

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You've been hanging around these parts as long as I have. You should know by now I am one ;o).

LOL

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ZOMG!!1! and lolz!!  And stuff.  Because I can't actually do the leet speak but I wanted to say something.  :unsure:

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My niece sent me an email the other day and spelled please as "pleaze" :D

I always keep the following in my mind when reading internet posts:

Some people do not have English as a first language

Some people are not well educated (but my no means stupid)

Some people can't type

Some people have dyslexia

Some people are plain dumb.

Misuse and poor spelling don't bother me much, except in books I have bought, advertising and product copy.  Books because I've paid good money so I expect them to be right, advertising because it shows an overall lack of care, product copy for the same reason.  In fact, any spelling and or grammatical errors in formal or commercial usage gets my goat.  The rest I put down to my little list above.

It's often a pleasant surprise to find a post which is spelled correctly, has a reasonable standard of grammar and doesn't begin with "So".

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So?  So's a problem? 

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So what! So I can't sow dissent? :tt2:

 

 

It's superfluous in most cases.  I guess it would be acceptable to use at the beginning of a sentence as a rejoinder, otherwise it's merely a noise with no reason to be there.

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So, what's so wrong with beginning with so?

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so  it's a part of me .. or is that sew?

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So, Sow, Sew!

 

Quote - I always keep the following in my mind when reading internet posts:

Some people do not have English as a first language

Some people are not well educated (but my no means stupid)

Some people can't type

Some people have dyslexia

Some people are plain dumb.

 

you missed one. "they just don't care"

(count me in that one... rude noise)

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This is an oldie.

 Spell Checker

Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea
Eye strike a quay and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong or write
It shows me strait a weigh
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can putt the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong
Eye have run this poem threw
I am shore your pleas two no
Its let her perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew

“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”

Homophone humor!  :thumbupboth:

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Homophonic remarks are not to be tolerated. :D

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Ho'mo'pho'ne'pho'bic 
hoe moe fo knee fo bic wat dat ? so i have no clue wat im talkin bout

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Actually, I'm a homophonophile.  If that's a thing.  If it isn't a thing... it is, now.  I made it a thing.

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I'm Aries but we don't believe in all that superstitious rubbish.

This thread is now well and truly derailed.

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Quote - It's superfluous in most cases.  I guess it would be acceptable to use at the beginning of a sentence as a rejoinder, otherwise it's merely a noise with no reason to be there.

On the subject of noise with no reason to be there, my pet hate is putting "go-ahead-and-..." in front of every verb. It's a spoken thing, and seems to be uniquely American, a typical video tutorial is full of "I'm gonna go ahead and select, then I'm gonna go ahead and move it, then I'm gonna go ahead and hit C for copy..."

I'm gonna go ahead and place an apostrophe in de'railed  looks much better with the apostrophe, yes ?

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One of my biggest peeves...

When someone says "supposably" rather than "supposedly". Seems to be unique to the New England states. And, perhaps my biggest peeve, when it's said that someone has "plead or pled" guilty rather than "pleaded". There is no such thing as pled...lol. The judge doesn't ask "How do you plea". He or she asks "how do you pleaD" ;o). Even television shows about forensics make this error and it bugs the crap out of me...lol.

Laurie

how do you plead

"Plead judge, don't send me to dat prison".

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Wow.  People actually say "supposably"?  I thought that was just a Simpsons gag.

Or maybe it was Coupling.  Hmm.  I can hear Steve from Coupling going on about it, for some reason.

Merriam-Webster acknowledges "pled".  If enough people do it, it can become a thing.  Supposably, anyways.  :unsure:

 

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Quote - Wow.  People actually say "supposably"?  I thought that was just a Simpsons gag.

Or maybe it was Coupling.  Hmm.  I can hear Steve from Coupling going on about it, for some reason.

Merriam-Webster acknowledges "pled".  If enough people do it, it can become a thing.  Supposably, anyways.  :unsure:

 

Remember The Girl with Two Breasts?

I didn't need the translation to understand what she said!

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Quote - Wow.  People actually say "supposably"?  I thought that was just a Simpsons gag.

Or maybe it was Coupling.  Hmm.  I can hear Steve from Coupling going on about it, for some reason.

Merriam-Webster acknowledges "pled".  If enough people do it, it can become a thing.  Supposably, anyways.  :unsure:

 

Somehow, a sentence such as "She pled for her life" doesn't even sound correct, but "She pleaded for her life" does.

I guess it's been misused for so long that now it's correct grammar. Ugh.

You should have been at my job the day that, as a proofreader, I spent nearly 20 minutes trying to explain to another proofreader that it's not Ice Tea, but rather Iced Tea and that it's Brussels Sprouts and not Brussel...lmao.

I don't claim to always use my punctuation perfectly, but I catch a lot of it and unfortunately a lot of what I catch is in a printed book or an advertisement. Shameful ;o).

Laurie

hmmm ... she pled, pled, and pled and pled somemore, but no number of pleds mattered to her wouldbe killer. Until .. lo and behold, this guy walked up and pleaded with him to ket her go. I plead the 5th.

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Then there was the time while I was working as a graphic artist for a TV listings newspaper, that I submitted my completed ad for the movie Beetlejuice and had it returned to me to correct to Beetle Juice. I nearly popped a vein. The editor at the time was a woman with a Masters in English. I had to explain to her that in this particular case, Beetlejuice was a proper name and not a concoction resulting from squishing bugs. She wouldn't budge and I refused to change it. Finally, my boss dug the VHS out of the library and showed it to her at which point she finally relented...lol.

Interestingly, Merriam-Webster likes "supposably", too.  But only as the adverbial form of "supposable".

 

Okay, maybe not that interestingly. There are times when one thinks 'Rosity should still have an OT forum.  Currently we're OT in an OT thread, which is OT to the second power, or plenty of OT.  Which makes me feel kind of bad. 

But not so bad that I won't post this link to Hyperbole and a Half, where the rant about "ALOT" is on-topic for the off-topic topic which has overtaken the thread....

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html

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There are a lot of bastardized words in the dictionary...lol.

wonder if I should use the language tag....nah...

Laurie

bah. to serious!

 

Gastronomy – to be bombarded with gas

Superintendent – trying to cover her with soup

Dostoyevsky – old English for “Do I have to ski?”

Garibaldi – Gary’s gone bald

Pusillanimous – dismay at the stench of a seal’s soul

Gelatine – to get the product and the packaging the wrong way round in hair care

Ballistic – a damnable lump of wood

Indubitably – to competently undo something

Valedictorum – when things are torn by a twat from Wales

Banister – to outlaw ogling

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@LaurieA:  Your Beetlejuice story reminds me ... back in 1965 or so my HS dramatics group presented "Raisin in the Sun".  One of the English teachers insisted on calling it "Rising in the Sun", because raisin' was ungrammatical.

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is the apostrophe.

 

 

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It's mostly when it's in an article or some other type of formal or semi-formal context that the grammatical bugaboos really bother me a lot. I've seen a few articles on supposedly big-name media sites with these exact problems, and the coupon announcement here was the last straw. Hopefully, whoever wrote the copy for it won't feel that I was singling them out, because that wasn't my intent. I think they may not even be a native speaker, in which case there should have been someone to proofread it before publishing took place.

Re: Supposably.  Many people here in the UK say it, too.  One which seems to be unique to here is "disorientated".  That makes me pop a vein.

Re: Noise without meaning.  Favourites over here seem to be "obviously" and "at the end of the day".  A lot of people misuse "literally", too.  They make me want to get my gat.

Oh yeah, "alot" is another one which gives me the heebie jeebies.  I see that here quite a lot, along with "nevermind".

While I'm on the subject, there seem to be many useless, badly thought out or plain stupid phrases kicking around, such as "round circle" (as opposed to a triangular one?), "reverse back" (didn't know you could reverse in any other direction) and PIN Number (Personal Identification Number Number).  We also had a bank over here called TSB Bank (Trustee Savings Bank Bank).

And finally...

Why can't anyone pronounce "kilometre/kilometer" correctly?  It's not a device for measuring kils, it's a unit of distance, ie, kilo and meter.  Christ on toast!

 

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Pardon me while I go worsh my car.

 

 

"Disorientated" does make its way into many BBC productions.  I've heard Neil from the Young Ones, Wendy Padbury, and Elisabeth Sladen all use it, IIRC.  Not all at once, mind you....

I used to get worked up about "irregardless", until I looked it up and found that it's now accepted.  Apparently.  It means the same as "regardless", so that prefix is redundant, at best.  A wretched mutant of a word.  Grumble.

My grandfather hates the "kill-OM-itter" pronounciation for "kilometer".  "There's no such thing as a "kill-OM", he says.  KEE-loh-meeter.  KEE-loh-meeter.  But they routinely get that wrong on NPR, so I suspect kill-OMs will one day be legitimate.

I have two relatives (different sides of the family, from different parts of the country) who say "worsh".  They can't hear the difference if you correct them, or so they claim.  One of them can't hear the difference between "nuclear" and "nuke-yoo-ler".  Craziness.

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Redunant like a hot water heater. Shouldn't that be, um, a water heater? I really wouldn't want to heat water that's already hot...LOL

;o)

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"Comprising of".  Aaaaaagh!

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personally I think we should stick to the classics when it comes to words....

 

ahem

 

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How To Use An Apostrophe The right way to use an apostrophe (in illustrated form).

 

 

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Am I the only one who's jealous of Bob's hat of jelly beans, and his lightning pants?

Thank you, Dave-So!  Those are informative and fun!  :thumbupboth:

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Quote - Re: Supposably.  ... and PIN Number (Personal Identification Number Number).  We also had a bank over here called TSB Bank (Trustee Savings Bank Bank).

Examples of RAS syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome) - though actually, TSB isn't a nym at all.

I think pled, like burnt and learnt, is the original correct form - it's just that the past tenses have been regularised to the more common -ed form (mostly it seems to be American usage to go for the -ed for, while English tended to retain the old form - as with jail vs gaol - but pled is marked as Scottish and American rather than English).

My sister-in-law is one of those that say "Ex-pecially" instead of "especially",and here's the kicker...She teaches the forth grade.

 

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Quote - My sister-in-law is one of those that say "Ex-pecially" instead of "especially",and here's the kicker...She teaches the forth grade.

 

Oh for the love of....

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you want some kassup wit dose fries?

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My pet hate is the use of the word 'momentarily' in place of the phrase 'in a moment'. I see it used more and more often. Especially by BBC newsreaders who used to epitomise the correct use of the English language.

So when I hear on the news something like, "We expect to see the Prime Minister momentarily," I damn well want to see him leap out of the door at 10 Downing Street and then vanish back inside immediately.

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Dave-So, that is completely awesome - jelly bean hat, lightning pants and all.  lol  :)

I don’t even know what one of my more recent peeves is called, but I can only describe it as “Baby Talk”.  As far as I know it’s deliberate, and done mostly by American girls of college age and under although I’ve even heard young guys do it too.

Some examples might be:

Kih-ehn  (for kitten)

Dih-int…( for didn’t)

Buh-in… for (button)

I once heard a female newscaster say “Stay tuned for Conan after the evening new with his guest Billy Bob Thor-ehn”. (for Billy Bob Thornton)

It’s not unlike a Cockney Accent, but that accent doesn’t bother me…there’s a difference between an “Accent” or regional dialect and a deliberate mispronunciation of specific words.

Does anyone know what this “peeve” of mine is called?..lol

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Quote - ...Does anyone know what this “peeve” of mine is called?..lol

Valid? ;o)

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"Valid ;0)"

lol...yeah...I was thinking  "annoying".

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lol...yeah...I was thinking  "annoying".

That too ;o)

Laurie

btw..i didn't invent that apostrophe cartoon..y did you think i were that talented? I never even learnded American in school.

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I think it's called a "Glottal Stop"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjGNJ5JL8w&NR=1&feature=fvwp

So...Now that we know what it's called, how do we STOP the selective use of It?...lol 

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Some examples might be:

Kih-ehn  (for kitten)

Dih-int…( for didn’t)

Buh-in… for (button)

I once heard a female newscaster say “Stay tuned for Conan after the evening new with his guest Billy Bob Thor-ehn”. (for Billy Bob Thornton)

It’s not unlike a Cockney Accent, but that accent doesn’t bother me…there’s a difference between an “Accent” or regional dialect and a deliberate mispronunciation of specific words.

Does anyone know what this “peeve” of mine is called?..lol

Tom

 

Ah.  Don-I know all too well. 

(Correction)

Don't I know all too well.  I tend to hear it a lot from most television commercial.  The one of which is from a Kool-Aid ad where one said "Oh no he dih-int".  It was later changed to "Oh no he didn't".  So, I know where you're coming from.

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@ hawkfyr:

Yep, it's a glottal stop and it seems to have been adopted by some American youth around the time Brit accents started to become fashionable again in the US.  Oddly enough, it's been re-adopted by Brit kids wanting to sound American.  The usage has its origins in the south of England, around London and Essex.

In my part of the UK the word "the" is often dropped in favour of a glottal stop.  You'll often see Sheffield dialect written thus:

"Ah went dahn ter t'bus stop but they were nowt theer."

Which equates to "I went down to the bus stop but there was nothing there."

The way it's written (as t') is incorrect and misleading, which is why non Northern people have difficulty impersonating a Sheffield accent.  The dropped "the" is pronounced as t' in Lancashire, though.

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Thanks Sam,

BTW…I hope nobody thinks I’m slamming a Cockney accent…I actually think it’s kinda cool. I suppose it’s the selective use of it here that kinda bugs me. In other words…If someone is going to adopt an accent…adopt the whole thing…not just the glottal stop…lol

But I love accents…I’ve been told I have a very generic “newscastery” accent and most folks can not place where I hail from. I lived  in the American Mid-West (Ohio…and a short stint in Michigan) until I was about 15, then moved to the Mid-Atlantic region for about 25 years (Worshington D.C./Ballimore)..

I now live in the South-East. (North Carolina) but rarely does anyone pin my accent down to either the Mid-West or the Mid-Atlantic. They can better tell where I’m Not from than where I AM from…lol

I love some of the Southern/Elegant accents down here (Not so much the Red-Necky accents though).

I like the way they will take a one syllable word and make into a two syllable word… For example: “Boy” becomes “Bow-wee” or “Their” becomes “They-yer”

My friend will tell her grandson.“Bow-wee...You bettuh getta way from They-yer”… lol

Oh well…sorry for the thread drift but for real…how long can we talk about apostrophe’s before migrating to something else?
Tom

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Quote - The one that gets me every time is writing "would have" the way it's pronounced "would of" :)

As in, I would of been on time if I had woken up earlier.   Come on people, it's have been, not of been!!  "Of" is a preposition, not a verb!

I've caught myself doing that before, and am fully aware of the difference.  I can only guess that my brain is sounding it out before typing and forgetting what it knows.

Being from WV, I can tell you that people around here love their extry apostrophes.  My least favorite signs are for places that deal in used CD's, TV's, and/or VCR's.

 

The superfluous apostrophe is sometimes known as the Greengrocer's Apostrophe over here, since they seem to be the ones who misuse it the most.  

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Sounds like a person whose arrogance was a sad match for their ignorance.

Quote - The superfluous apostrophe is sometimes known as the Greengrocer's Apostrophe over here, since they seem to be the ones who misuse it the most.  

Seems to be the same here, though I think that term went out of fashion about 50 years ago.  Their descendents pop in here from time to time looking for help remapping their UV's and importing their OBJ's.

I think it is a habit for them, expecially the ones that use those lighted signs with the all-caps plastic letters, to use the apostrophe to separate the "S" from the rest of the acronym.

I always want to use the apostrophe in the one place that it doesn't belong but should, and that's to form the posessive of it.  Why can't a thing have a possession?  I hate words that are lone exceptions to every other rule!

Its is to it as his is to he - it's a pronoun, with a possessive form of its own.

I've just discovered this thread.

The "errant apostrophe" is a pet peeve of mine, as well as the various misspelt words.

I have an email penpal from Estonia whose written English is flawless. What is the excuse of those of us who have English as their first language ?

only can be 2 excuses ..lazy or unlearnded

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Part of it is, like hawkfyr said...the kids are being taught by teachers with bad grammar.  Every time I talk to my 10-year-old, I have to correct at least ONE sentence per conversation.  He, as well as my younger sister and brother (taught in the same school system) have the same grammatical idiosyncrasies...and it drives me BONKERS.  I'm so glad that I got through that school system when there were still good teachers.

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I'd be showing up on that teachers doorstep.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the first working breakfast of the Association for the Abolition of the Aberrant Apostrophe - the AAAA as it is known to our myriad town and country members.

The AAAA has two simple goals. Its first is to round up and confiscate superfluous apostrophes from, for example, fruit and vegetable stalls where potato's, tomatoe's and apple's are openly on sale.

Its second is to redistribute as many as possible of these impounded apostrophes, restoring missing apostrophes where they have been lost, mislaid or deliberately hijacked - as for instance by British Rail, which as part of its refurbishment programme is dismantling the apostrophes from such stations as King's Cross and shunting them off at dead of night to a secret apostrophe siding at Crewe.

Ladies and gentlemen, examples of the misuse of apostrophes abound.

In the AAAA's Black Apostrophe Museum in the basement, which you are welcome to visit (no children or persons of nervous disposition please), you will find an advertisement from The Guardian for Technical Author's; a circular from the National Council for the Training of Journalists, if you please, containing the phrase 'as some editor's will know'; an announcement from Austin Rover about the new Maestro's; a leaflet from Hereford and Worcester County Council called 'How the Council Spends it's Money'; and many other apostrophic atrocities too gruesome to describe while you are eating your Danish pastries.

How has this pestilence come about? The AAAA's laboratories have identified it as a virus, probably introduced into the country in a bunch of bananas and spread initially by greengrocers, or greengrocer's as they usually style themselves.

Apostrophe Interpolation, Displacement and Suppression - AID'S, as the affliction is known - recognises no frontiers.

It afflicts the highest and the lowest of the land alike, the educated along with the sub-literate. The Times (shortly to be renamed The Times's) as well as The Sun.

Why, even the Daily Mail itself, it has to be confessed between these four walls, is not immune. I hold in my hand a misprinting of who's for whose which was detected in its pages only a short while ago.

Ladies and gentlemen, when we find ourselves in a world where a newsagent's placard can read 'Gleny's Kinnock Lead's Teachers Strike', the Apocalypse is near and something must be done.

Apostrophic anarchists, deliberately disrupting the apostrophe's function as part of their wider plan to destroy English grammar, must be weeded out root and branch.

Innocent misusers of the apostrophe - for instance the Darlington bus company promising 'Shopping Trips to Leed's' - must be hustled off to night school in plain vans for a crash course in punctuation.

If necessary, children must be stopped outside the classroom and frisked for aberrant apostrophes, and the pushers identified.

But what can we, as individuals, do to stop the rot, bearing in mind that your Association will have no truck with the proscribed militant Apostrophe Abolition Army, whose declared aim is to stamp out the now universal use of 'it's' for the possessive 'its' by blowing up offending printing plants?

What we can do, ladies and gentlemen, is to be vigilant and relentless in our pursuit of the aberrant apostrophe.

We must write to each and every publication that trangresses in this respect. When they write back pleading that it was a regrettable printers error, we must reply by return of post that no it wasn't, it was a regrettable printer's error, or even more accurately, the error of a regrettable printer. 

We must boycott shops selling Co's lettuce, bean's and such like contaminated products.

Members of the AAAA are invited to forward examples of misplaced apostrophes to the Association for possible use in our touring exhibitions, provided that these do not infringe the Post Office regulations on the sending of obnoxious matter through the mails.

The AAAA regrets that its hardworking staff will be unable to acknowledge contributions individually but assures members that every apostrophe submitted will be scrutinised keenly and considered on its demerits.

The AAAA has no membership cards and no subscription. Members are, however, asked to donate at least one aberrant apostrophe when attending our meetings, rallies and conferences.

I have to point out that we are considerably overstocked on their's, it's and who's, and can consider no further examples until those we have accumulated have been ploughed into the Association's apostrophe dump at Devizes.

You are now asked to place the aberrant apostrophes you have brought with you in the offertory bags being passed among you by the ushers.

 During the collection, we will all rise and sing the AAAA's battle anthem, 'Sister Susie's Sewing Shirts For Soldiers'. Anyone singing a misplaced apostrophe will be instantly ejected from the hall.

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Quote - ...I spent nearly 20 minutes trying to explain to another proofreader that it's not Ice Tea, but rather Iced Tea and that it's Brussels Sprouts and not Brussel...lmao Laurie

Oh thank you so much.  And it's whipped cream not whip cream, barbed wire not barb wire, and mashed potatoes not mash potatoes.

I cringe everytime someone writes that an aritcle of clothing is too lose or they're afraid they're going to loose their cell phone.  I read the thread but forgot.  Did we cover your and you're yet?  Another thing that drives me crazy is the "use" of quotation marks "almost" all the time, seemingly for emphasis.  Other than direct quotations, the use of quotation marks on a regular word often implies that it is not what it states.  I saw a sign in front of the grocery store advertising "fresh" fruit.

Finally, everyone knows that the correct pronounciation of wash is warsh...not worsh.  Sheesh.  ;-)

Their is a lot of contributor's making a lot of good point's.

You can never have to much good English grammer.

Quote - Finally, everyone knows that the correct pronounciation of wash is warsh...not worsh.  Sheesh.  ;-)

Dem's Fightin' woids! :tt2:

Round here the correct way is "wesh". :P

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and the most annoying poser one.

 

it's Clothes. not Cloths. Clothes are the things you wear. Cloths are the things you make Clothes from or use to Dust/dry things...

Airport security is a burden we must all shoulder. Do your part, and please grope yourself in advance.

...don't you mean cloth's ?

....it was 5am when I wrote that.. some slack please ;)

Airport security is a burden we must all shoulder. Do your part, and please grope yourself in advance.

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Quote - > Quote - ...I spent nearly 20 minutes trying to explain to another proofreader that it's not Ice Tea, but rather Iced Tea and that it's Brussels Sprouts and not Brussel...lmao Laurie

Oh thank you so much.  And it's whipped cream not whip cream, barbed wire not barb wire, and mashed potatoes not mash potatoes.

I cringe everytime someone writes that an aritcle of clothing is too lose or they're afraid they're going to loose their cell phone.  I read the thread but forgot.  Did we cover your and you're yet?  Another thing that drives me crazy is the "use" of quotation marks "almost" all the time, seemingly for emphasis.  Other than direct quotations, the use of quotation marks on a regular word often implies that it is not what it states.  I saw a sign in front of the grocery store advertising "fresh" fruit.

Finally, everyone knows that the correct pronounciation of wash is warsh...not worsh.  Sheesh.  ;-)

I actually do use quotations around words often myself. I'm guilty. But I use them when I'm being my usual sarcastic self....lol. For example: "Gee honey, you look "lovely" today" after they've just crawled out of bed ;o).

Laurie

There's even a RP banner floating around here with the caption "Enemy's Beware".

Oh dear.

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Quote - There's even a RP banner floating around here with the caption "Enemy's Beware".

Oh dear.

... that is referring to the beware that belongs to the enemy

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One thing that drives me up the wall is the constant use of the word like when not comparing something or saying that one likes something. Last semester one chick said like 58 times in  just a couple of minutes. Turns out that she was Canadien, not sure if that had something to do with it or not though.

 

 

Some old ones from when I was in school.

definitions

female = iron man

hypotinuse = someone is in the upstairs bathroom

Elton John = 2,000 pound outhouse

What about when people say "criteria" when they are talking in the singular. The singular is actually "criterion".

Another pet hate...

At checkouts, the line marked "10 items or less".  It's fewer, you numpty, not less!

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This might help.

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Not A Typo
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are.

The olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae.

The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.

Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe and the biran fguiers it out aynawy

 

Posted by the worst speller on the Rendo forums :woot:

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"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"

You're not wrong, mate.  I read your post as easily as if it was typed in clear, correct spelling.

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Quote - Not A Typo
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are.

The olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae.

The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.

Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe and the biran fguiers it out aynawy

theirs a lot of typo's hear, but I have seen many other example's like this.

Quote - Not A Typo
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are.

The olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae.

The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.

Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe and the biran fguiers it out aynawy

 

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Quote - You're not wrong, mate.  I read your post as easily as if it was typed in clear, correct spelling.

Same here, without a hitch...lol.

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What'd he say?!? :tt2:

wow ..read that backwords

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Attached Link: http://www.well-animal-uk.com/

Oh dear.

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oh my gosh...lolol

Now that's bad ;o).

Laurie

edit: That's beyond bad...lol.

Oh dearie bloody fuck. What a superb advert.  I'd put my trust in that product, for sure.

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whats' rong wittit ?

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Quote - whats' rong wittit ?

My horse's wood probly drop ded.

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Quote - Makes me wonder if we will have a recognizable language in a few decades as quickly as it's devolving.

Delaney

devolving? evolving, surely.

Quote - bah. to serious!

 

Gastronomy – to be bombarded with gas

Centimeter: machine for measuring smells

Kilobyte: what a T-Rex will give you

Centipede: 1/100th of a breath-test unit, measured on the police Pedometer.

Kilogramme: weight of straw that broke the camel's back

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Quote - I have an email penpal from Estonia whose written English is flawless. What is the excuse of those of us who have English as their first language ?

 

You want to see what French pupils do to their spelling; my wife taught in France years ago and said many of the parents couldn't spell correctly either.

I fink every buddy shud youse a spoll chicker and a gramma chocker like what I does.

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Does this thread mean we have enough information/clout/justification to get Daz in particular and vendors in general to finally drop that annoying apostrophe in Readme's?

Readme's what?

Readme's folder?

Readme's section?

Readme's place in the runtime when it really shouldn't be there anyway?

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It's pretty common (though incorrect) for pro's and con's to be written with apostrophes, maybe because people think they must be contractions or something? For what? Prostitutes and convicts?

I think a lot of people just add an apostrophe when they aren't sure, which appears to be most of the time.

Quote - Does this thread mean we have enough information/clout/justification to get Daz in particular and vendors in general to finally drop that annoying apostrophe in Readme's?

Naah, then we'd have yet another folder for 'em, ReadMe's for legacy products and Readmes for new ones. Bad enough as it is.

 

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Equally famous...

Potatoe.  :lol:

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and from at least one poster here at Renderosity:

"hug's from ..."

Quote - and from at least one poster here at Renderosity:

"hug's from ..."

 

Wow! See if I send you any Hug's! :tt2: (In case you didn't catch it the emoticon means I am teasing you.)

Quote - Oh dear.

You, sir, will be hearing from my lawyer, as I am now completely blind from having looked at that page.

Quote - You, sir, will be hearing from my lawyer, as I am now completely blind from having looked at that page.

...in which case, I think an application of "Well-Horse" might do the trick.  It works miracles, apparently...

 

Seriously though, this stuff appears to work - they do a dog version which we tried when one of our Northern Inuits cut himself badly just below his eye.  It also sorted out a chemical burn on our cat's nose (it's ok- he thinks he's a dog anyway).  Both wounds healed with almost no visible scarring.  Apparently repeated use knocks out your ability to use apostrophe's though, so I wouldn't allow our cat or dog to set any type now.

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Quote - Apparently repeated use knocks out your ability to use apostrophe's though, so I wouldn't allow our cat or dog to set any type now.

Our cat won't set type in the winter anyway - says the metal is far too cold.

Quote - > Quote - Apparently repeated use knocks out your ability to use apostrophe's though, so I wouldn't allow our cat or dog to set any type now.

Our cat won't set type in the winter anyway - says the metal is far too cold.

Mine just says "You want me to do what??? Silly human."

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Mine reckon typesetting went out with the ark.

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Quote - Mine reckon typesetting went out with the ark.

Well, I'm not quite that old ... but still set type by hand occasionally!

Quote - > Quote - Mine reckon typesetting went out with the ark.

Well, I'm not quite that old ... but still set type by hand occasionally!

That's something I have never done but I'd love to have a bash.  The closest I ever came to it was those little John Bull printing kits when I was a kid.

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Quote - That's something I have never done but I'd love to have a bash.  The closest I ever came to it was those little John Bull printing kits when I was a kid.

I started with the John Bull, then went on to the Adana in about 1950.

Ahhhh...John Bull printing kit...Xmas 1970, along with a set of Airfix Afrika Korps soldiers.  Bliss.

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Wow, Adana.  I remember all the hobby magazines used to be full of them back in the 60s.  There was even a dealer in Sheffield - a general hobby shop - now sadly gone.

OTOH, I always had an interest in layout, design and so forth.  Software fills my needs in those departments but I'd still love to have a bash with a real printing press.  My first ever job was using an offset litho machine.  Not particularly interesting or fun but there you go.

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aaah Airfix...happy memories of Wellingtons, Spitfires, Stuka's and Eagle Transporters

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Quote - Ahhhh...Airfix Afrika Korps soldiers...

I had thousands of Airfix soldiers.  All now long gone. :(

The WWI German Infantry were beautifully sculpted.   8th Army looked awful, IIRC.

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The Afrika Korps had the best poses.....funny, that, on a Poser forum!

 

"Stuka's".  We're still on topic!

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Heh.  Considering this started as an OT thread and has undergone numerous thread drifts since, it was bound to happen.

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so. back 't the topic. nothin' wrong with usin' an apostrophe in the right place, t'were the point, if I remember Cap'n......

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...BTW can an apostrophe absorb the impact of a soggie, chicken shit, shape charge?

 

 

Quote - so. back 't the topic. nothin' wrong with usin' an apostrophe in the right place, t'were the point, if I remember Cap'n......

True - I seem to have diverted the topic slightly; but if you want to chat about Adanas etc you cam PM me.

So, back to our sheep: should we abolish the apostrophe, then? It seems to have got into languages (such as German, see postings here on Rendo) where it never belonged.

Nah, I don't think we should.  Yet.  I strongly suspect it will eventually go the same way as the hyphen in pic-nic and to-day but that's a long way off.  OTOH, maybe it will stay since it's a useful indicator of context when used properly.

I'd be interested in some basic info about Adana presses, although the day when I actually get my hands on one is probably far, far away in the future.  Right now we're busy preparing for the arrival of our new daughter, due tomorrow.  :)  

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Tomorrow!  Are you all at the hospital now?

 

 

Nope.  We'll go when Claire goes into labour good and proper.  :)

Chances are the little bugger will be late, anyhow.  Samuel was 8 days overdue.

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go dig some deep holes for a fence. have your wife lift those big poles and fill in with you..you know, hubby and wife playtime ...I guarantee the baby will be around soon.

I know from expereince ... almost delivered in JC PEnny parking lot ...but made it to the hospital with immediated delivery almost in the wheelchair on the way to the delivery room. much excitement.

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I suggested your idea to Claire.  Her answer was short, related to sex and travel and ended with "off". :)

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Oop's I did it again  :¬)

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So that's a no to heavy lifting then? :tt2:

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She's been busy around the house today, trying to get things moving but so far, the new baby hasn't put in an appearance.

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Quote - > Quote - so. back 't the topic. nothin' wrong with usin' an apostrophe in the right place, t'were the point, if I remember Cap'n......

True - I seem to have diverted the topic slightly; but if you want to chat about Adanas etc you cam PM me.

So, back to our sheep: should we abolish the apostrophe, then? It seems to have got into languages (such as German, see postings here on Rendo) where it never belonged.

 

You British and your affinity for sheep. Watch this video is it is really good...

 

http://www.wimp.com/sheeplight/

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The British may have an affinity for sheep but that pales into insignificance compared to New Zealanders. There is a joke that we Aussies like to tell:

Q: How does a New Zealand sheep farmer find his sheep in the long grass?
A: Verrrrrry satisfying !!!!!

It's the Welsh who are supposed to be interested in sheep, not Brits en masse.

As the fixer will tell you, though, it's just another one of those demeaning stereotypes.

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So, back to our sheep:

 

You British and your affinity for sheep.

Actually it's originally a French phrase: "Revenons a nos moutons".

Link: http://french.about.com/od/vocabulary/a/revenonsanosmoutons.htm

Quote - The British may have an affinity for sheep but that pales into insignificance compared to New Zealanders. There is a joke that we Aussies like to tell:

Q: How does a New Zealand sheep farmer find his sheep in the long grass?
A: Verrrrrry satisfying !!!!!

 

That's baaaaaaaaaaaaaa d

 

Last Time I was in NZ in about 1990, the sheep out numbered the people by I think 3 or 4 to 1.

 

Or as they say about Iowa here in the states...Iowa, where the men are men and the sheep are nervous!

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Sorry to come to the party late. Just came across this thread and have been wondering if the misuse of apostrophes is really that annoying.

I've come to the conclusion that it's.

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It might be a function of age ... especially those of us who've hit three score and ten ...

I don't mind  grammar and spelling being mangled for humour or creativity but when it's done through ignorance it gets my goat.

Another one which gives me conniptions... "addicting".  Aaaagh!  It's "addictive" fer crissake.

 

Oh, and my daughter will be 4 months old in 6 days. :)

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