DarkElegance opened this issue on Jan 30, 2011 · 19 posts
DarkElegance posted Sun, 30 January 2011 at 5:59 PM
it finally happened,,,after being saved twice it finally died. my hd with my ancient p4 runtime.
Unfortunatly with it died some seriously old props and stuff mainly my rosary! there was a lovely one ages ago in free stuff...nice big one.
lovely heavy cross on it....
I just checked it is not in freestuff(at least not under rosary and I am trying other possible listings but BLARG)
does anyone have any idea where I can get a rosary????
https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/
Acadia posted Sun, 30 January 2011 at 6:20 PM
There is a free one over at Turbosquid
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/rosary-christ-lwo-free/320693
There is one in this package:
http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=23204&vendor=cmdctrlesc
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Acadia posted Sun, 30 January 2011 at 6:41 PM
Here is another
http://threshie.deviantart.com/art/Mello-s-Rosary-3D-103994637
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
DarkElegance posted Sun, 30 January 2011 at 7:03 PM
Quote - There is a free one over at Turbosquid
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/rosary-christ-lwo-free/320693
There is one in this package:
http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=23204&vendor=cmdctrlesc
oh the one at turbo squid is lovely. though I dont think it is for poser nor posable.
I believe it was cybermonk that had one here....I wish I could find that one again
https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/
Acadia posted Sun, 30 January 2011 at 9:34 PM
You can convert that turboquid one using Poseray
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Suucat posted Sun, 30 January 2011 at 9:51 PM
Sorry to hear what happened to your HD, that´s why i have my Runtime folder saved in 4 places, my main system HD, my secondary HD, my LapTop and in my external 1 TB HD.
Good Luck with the Rosary!
Who finds a friend finds a treasure!
DarkElegance posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 3:43 AM
Quote - Sorry to hear what happened to your HD, that´s why i have my Runtime folder saved in 4 places, my main system HD, my secondary HD, my LapTop and in my external 1 TB HD.
Good Luck with the Rosary!
heh I have saved this runtime more then once..but the HD it was on just ....I think died.
there wasnt any problems with it...I booted my system up and the HD just....wasnt recognized..as if it wasnt even there.
I have tried about everything short of sending it to a company in london that claims to be able to get data from even burned HDs...
Though a external HD is begining to look awefully good right now
https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/
Acadia posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 9:54 AM
Quote - .I booted my system up and the HD just....wasnt recognized..as if it wasnt even there. I have tried about everything short of sending it to a company in london that claims to be able to get data from even burned HDs...
Though a external HD is begining to look awefully good right now
When I got my Seagate external drive, it was recognized for all of 1 hour maybe. Enough time to transfer 500 gigs of filese to it. Then bam. Nothing.
Turns out that my computer isn't powerful enough to boot up the Seagate, or whatever it does, with all of the USB attachments I had plugged in.....printer, tablet, Notebook external drive, speakers etc. I even tried extra external hubs. But nothing worked.
One day I unplugged my graphic tablet and BINGO, the Seagate was recognized again, and has been every day since.
Maybe that is your problem too? Too many USB things? Try disconnecting some.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
lkendall posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 4:37 PM
One can always try to put a harddrive into an exteranl USB case. Sometimes the data on the drive can be retrieved this way, even if the boot sector is damaged.
If the power supply on a computer cannot power an external USB device, one can try a USB hub with an external power supply to power the device.
LMK
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Acadia posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 4:48 PM
Quote - If the power supply on a computer cannot power an external USB device, one can try a USB hub with an external power supply to power the device.
LMK
Tried that. The 2 - 4 port USB hubs that I bought, had power cords. The Seagate just won't work on my computer so long as my tablet is plugged in. I thought unplugging it was just a fluke, but I plugged it in again and the Seagate isn't recognized at all until I unplug the tablet and reboot.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
lkendall posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 5:15 PM
Not to highjack the thread, but it might work to get a PCI USB card to power one or the other device. I have done this before for two conflicting USB devices. This will obviously not work for a laptop.
What if you plug the tablet into the hub? But, you are more than smart enough to have tried that.
If you have several computers networked together, you can attach the drive to another computer, and share it over the network.
I guess we should all be saving(backing-up) our precious runtimes to CDs or DVDs.
lmk
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Acadia posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 5:34 PM
Quote - What if you plug the tablet into the hub? But, you are more than smart enough to have tried that.
Actually, I didn't try that.
I'm ok with the tablet being unplugged. It's an expensive dinner placemat/coffee coaster. I can't get used to the disconnected feeling of holding a pen and "writing" on something while looking straight ahead at a computer monitor. When I write/draw, I need to be looking at what my hand is doing.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
DarkElegance posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 5:50 PM
lmckenzie posted Mon, 31 January 2011 at 11:56 PM
Double check the BIOS and see if the drive is being recognized there.
Then, I'd try check to see if the power and data cables are secure on the drive and the data cable is secured to the motherboard. Then, try to see if the drive is even spinning up. You may have to pull it fro the mounting slot and holding it carefully [beware poser connection] and you should be able to feel the motor running. If the drive is spinning up and the cables are tight then try putting in in another machine and see if it's recognized there.
If it doesn't spin up then the circuit board may be fried or there may be some other mechanical/electrical problem. In theory, the board can be replaced, but it would have to be the exact same make/model and revision number. Your best bet at that point may be a data recovery service but they are not cheap.
"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken
DarkElegance posted Tue, 01 February 2011 at 3:00 AM
Quote - Double check the BIOS and see if the drive is being recognized there.
Then, I'd try check to see if the power and data cables are secure on the drive and the data cable is secured to the motherboard. Then, try to see if the drive is even spinning up. You may have to pull it fro the mounting slot and holding it carefully [beware poser connection] and you should be able to feel the motor running. If the drive is spinning up and the cables are tight then try putting in in another machine and see if it's recognized there.
If it doesn't spin up then the circuit board may be fried or there may be some other mechanical/electrical problem. In theory, the board can be replaced, but it would have to be the exact same make/model and revision number. Your best bet at that point may be a data recovery service but they are not cheap.
I did all that except seeing if it was spinning up.
:S
Ill try it all again though. no harm in triple checking ^.^
https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/
lkendall posted Tue, 01 February 2011 at 11:06 AM
As lmckenzie says, I have bought a used drive on EBay for cheap, and transfered the control board to a drive that had a damaged board. It was much cheaper than paying for someone to recover the data for me. But, there was no guarantee that would work until I tried it.
If the drive spins up, you may be able to connect it as a slave or secondary drive to recover the data, but you will need a boot disc to start the computer.
lmk
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lmckenzie posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 1:05 AM
Attached Link: OnTrack Data Recovery
*"I did all that except seeing if it was spinning up."*If results were no go, it could be a bad data cable, or the port on the motherboard - you can try another cable and switching to the other port (all my dinosaurs are the old IDE style, I assume SATA has two ports?). The quickest test is probably putting it in another machine if you have access to one. Conceivably, the heads could be stuck. I've read about putting a drive in a ZipLoc bag and putting it in the freezer overnight (cold contracts the metal parts) or tapping it GENTLY with a hammer, also holding it flat and twisting back and forth vigorously. Those are pretty much the last resorts I can think of.
A data recovery service can open the case in a clean room, take the platters out and mount them in a rig if necessary. I'm pretty sure they have a service to give you an estimated cost. Ontrack is one of the better known ones, though possibly not the cheapest. Depends on how much the data is worth to you.
"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken
DarkElegance posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 3:07 AM
Quote - "I did all that except seeing if it was spinning up."
If results were no go, it could be a bad data cable, or the port on the motherboard - you can try another cable and switching to the other port (all my dinosaurs are the old IDE style, I assume SATA has two ports?). The quickest test is probably putting it in another machine if you have access to one. Conceivably, the heads could be stuck. I've read about putting a drive in a ZipLoc bag and putting it in the freezer overnight (cold contracts the metal parts) or tapping it GENTLY with a hammer, also holding it flat and twisting back and forth vigorously. Those are pretty much the last resorts I can think of.
A data recovery service can open the case in a clean room, take the platters out and mount them in a rig if necessary. I'm pretty sure they have a service to give you an estimated cost. Ontrack is one of the better known ones, though possibly not the cheapest. Depends on how much the data is worth to you.
I am going to try and see if it spinns up and I will also try(depending on results) the cold method.
The HD was working just fine...I had to restart the puter and when it booted back up the drive wasnt showing. So I dont think it just fried.
This is one thing I love about rendo though. I came looking for a rosary and may of found the a cure for my problem with my HD which will cure even bigger problem of ancient p4 stuff being recovered ^.^(which in turn cures my rosary problem lol)
I seriously want to thank every one for their advice on the HD. even if it may not help this HD issue I now have info that will help me in the future. :D
https://www.darkelegance.co.uk/
lmckenzie posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 5:10 AM
Attached Link: Data Recovery From a Failed Hard Drive - Freezing Method
You're very welcome - been there too many times :-) I have one drive that goes away on occasion, but I can hear it trying to work. A gentle tap on the end of the case gets it working. Here is a link with info on the cold method (search for freeze hard drive and you'll find more. I'd make sure the drive is cool before proceeding to minimize condensation risk - i.e. don't take it out of a hot machine and pop it in the bag. Hope you get it back."Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken