josterD opened this issue on Feb 02, 2011 · 21 posts
josterD posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 9:02 AM
I like art, i have ideas...but i haven't actually done anything these days.
This is why i dont do anything;
Cause in the end....what i make might not be good at all. so why even waste time doing it.
I tried staring making music videos, short films, comics...
Nothing of what i do looks good or convincing. LIke if i do a comic with still images, the images don't look exciting and realistic... it looks so dull and the characters look plastic so they don't give me any sense of excitement.
Sometimes i feel like i rather direct real people than bother with 3D. 3D is too much hand work, and too much failure and waste of time, unless you just do still images from time to time and don't do any actual projects( movies, films, full comic books)
drifterlee posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 9:41 AM
Don't have such a negative attitude. I'm sure your work is just as good as everyone else's in the gallery. Perhaps you are just not inspired. I'm like that. Sometimes I hate everything I do. Other times, I like it. Just make something - anything - and upload it. You'll probably feel better then.
SamTherapy posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 9:42 AM
I know how you feel. I go through phases of hating everything I make. I put days and days into a still image and when it's done it bores me to tears. Never tried animation but I imagine the frustration factor is immense.
I often find myself wishing for more up to date software and better computers. I guess that's inherent in this field anyhow but it's certainly a factor for me now my machines are old and I use Poser 6. I could do so much more stuff with 8 GB of RAM, a quad core machine and Poser Pro 2010.
About the only thing that doesn't frustrate me in 3D lately is model building. Even if something is difficult for me to achieve, I enjoy the learning that goes with it.
You're not on your own, anyhow. I think we all hit the frustration barrier sooner or later. Quite likely to hit it several times along the way, too.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
LaurieA posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 10:31 AM
It's called burn out. Go do something in RL for awhile and gain some inspiration.
Laurie
hborre posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 10:52 AM
I haven't done anything for quite awhile during the latter half of last year. That is until a couple of ideas came into mind and I went the concepts. But they were not instantaneous renders. They went through a couple of weeks evolution before I was satisfied enough to post.
patorak3d posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 2:55 PM
Sometimes i feel like i rather direct real people than bother with 3D. 3D is too much hand work, and too much failure and waste of time, unless you just do still images from time to time and don't do any actual projects( movies, films, full comic books)
Hi JosterD,
Can i ask you a question? When you look at a cave painting and the technology they used to make it, what do you see? Do you see artwork celebrating the triumph of the human spirit? Or, do you see a carefully laid out plan for a community to achieve a goal?
aeilkema posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 5:10 PM
Time to quit and find something else to do, leave the computer and virtual world for what it is and go back to real life. Trust me, you'll find it very liberating and find there are much more fun things to do then stare at a screen all day.
Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!
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Food for thought.....
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Photopium posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 5:48 PM
Quote - I could do so much more stuff with 8 GB of RAM, a quad core machine and Poser Pro 2010.
I believe this is the "Great Lie" of creativity. If only I had a better "x" I could really go to town.
On the contrary, the more tools I acquire, the less involved I am in the process, leaving the end result soul-less and unsatisfying.
Unless, of course, the new tools are themselves frustrating and counter productive, which is often the case in 3d. You know, when something big, handy and new comes down the pipes, it gives you a push for about 3 renders, then it's right back to boredom and blase.
IMHO
SamTherapy posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 6:29 PM
Nah, I really could because the workarounds I have to employ now get my goat to the extent I don't bother even starting on something most times. There are also new render tools in Pro 2010 which I could make good use of.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
patorak3d posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 6:32 PM
Nah, I really could because the workarounds I have to employ now get my goat to the extent I don't bother even starting on something most times. There are also new render tools in Pro 2010 which I could make good use of.
All that in between diaper changes!?! You are an extraordinary man Sam!
SamTherapy posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 6:46 PM
Indeed I am. Also while restringing one guitar and playing the other 3. :lol:
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
patorak3d posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 6:58 PM
Indeed I am. Also while restringing one guitar and playing the other 3.
Good gawd man how many arms do you have!?!
Dynamo posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 7:48 PM
Sometimes you just have to wait for the inspiration. It's very hard, very frustrating but once its past it'll make the ceation all the better.
Hang in there!
pjz99 posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 9:37 PM
Quote - Cause in the end....what i make might not be good at all. so why even waste time doing it.
If you don't do anything, then you'll never become good at anything. Do something, and yes it will suck at first. It will suck for a while. EVERYONE sucks at EVERYTHING THEY DO until they learn enough technique to get good at it. Walking, speaking, blowing smoke rings, whistling, playing the piano, writing prose, whatever, it all takes practice to become good at it. The time spent learning to do something well is not wasted, if you actually want to learn something well eventually.
e.g. guess what I'm doing for the past month - learning dog training! I am terrible at it. I am learning though, hopefully quick enough to not fuck up my poor dog too badly with bad training technique.
Miss Nancy posted Wed, 02 February 2011 at 11:23 PM
it's not necessary for ya to do anything now, jos. don't feel under any pressure and you'll do it in yer own time. unless somebody's paying ya to work - then ya gotta get moving ASAP.
SamTherapy posted Thu, 03 February 2011 at 4:26 AM
Quote - Indeed I am. Also while restringing one guitar and playing the other 3.
Good gawd man how many arms do you have!?!
There's feet, too. :)
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
patorak3d posted Thu, 03 February 2011 at 7:23 AM
There's feet, too. :)
LOL!
After the blessed event do you think you could lend me a foot...cuz i need a hand with something.
scanmead posted Thu, 03 February 2011 at 4:01 PM
For me it was the opposite. Back in the Bryce 5 days, finding ways of getting Bryce to look like it was doing what it couldn't was the driving force. Figuring out the workaround was the fun part. Plus, back then, I was shy about speaking my mind, so what I felt came out in images.
Then came bigger, faster machines, better platforms, cooler render engines, and a 'been there, done that, so what' attitude. Add in a good dose of 'must be dead-bang photo-real perfect', and what was an image a week, has dwindled to, oh, a year or so since the last one.
Funny, but IMHO, the cave paintings at Lascaux are probably the finest art ever produced. Something about the simplicity and feelings they evoke.
mertext posted Thu, 03 February 2011 at 11:28 PM
I think we all go through this phase. i had a while there were I had 3 models up into the markets in a single month, as well as some freebies, but then after all the rush on those projects I took a mental break.
Then i'll get ideas in the middle of the night , get up at the computer and start modeling until I'm tired, and then goto bed, in the morning I'm too tired to do anymore so it sits, gets forgotten , You don't want to know how many started projects I have sitting in my "scene" folder.
I eventually get back to them though and finish em.
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also known as Daniel Merrill a grumpy old disabled Jarhead.
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https://www.sharecg.com/pf/full_uploads.php?pf_user_name=mcdlabs
josterD posted Thu, 03 February 2011 at 11:49 PM
I'm starting to get ideas on how to do movies. There's some Youtube videos of poser/daz made movies that are simple but have great story and they are great
josterD posted Fri, 04 February 2011 at 8:34 AM
anyone got links of Poser/DAZ created short movies? I got some but only found like 5. They're really intereseting and give me inspiration