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Subject: OT: How exactly do you get a GF when you're old and unexperienced?

tebop opened this issue on May 05, 2011 · 137 posts


tebop posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 9:15 AM

I've never had a GF. THUS i use Poserand daz to make virtual GF s. but it just doesn't work and it's tedious and robotic.

I want a real GF but i have no clue how to do it.

People say you meet women in daily life. Not really, girls never approach me or even look at me.

And when i have guts to talk to them in public places( rare but sometimes i do) they don't like it. They lie to me , they give me email etc but never answer... maybe they give me fake number etc.

 

anyways, help


Daymond42 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 9:23 AM

Personally, I'd watch Weird Science for inspiration.. :>

 

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SamTherapy posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 9:29 AM

No idea.  I'm old but experienced. :D

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lmckenzie posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 9:38 AM

Find a nice older woman who might be grateful for the attention. Of course, nowadays, the 40-50ish ones are sought by younger men into the 'Cougar' craze, so shoot for 60. Still plenty of well preserved and engertic ladies of that vintage around.

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Zev0 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 9:56 AM

Easiest way. Start off with a female you wont be intimidated by. Start off with somebody thats not a supermodel appearence wise. The biggest mistake guys do is go for somebody out of their league at first. (yes classes do exist) You aim for that later once you've gained experience. First step is to be comfortable with a female. So start off lower down the foodchain. My first chick was a heavyweight but she gave me the confidence and later I could persue a wider spectrum. Learn the basics from her. It's hard at first if the person around you makes you nervous because she is "so hot". It may seem shallow to some but it is the best way to gain confidence. Then work your way from there. But dont break any hearts promising the world. Make sure you have ground rules established that this is just casual. Another thing, women love confidence in a guy, not arrogance:)

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dphoadley posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 9:56 AM

Advertise in the personals of your local newspaper.

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Zev0 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:01 AM

Oh and watch that show "pickup artist". Its about guys that are in a similar boat that learn how to pick up chicks.

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WandW posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:01 AM

Go to church-lots of nice ladies there.  You can chat with people at coffee hour in a no-pressure setting.  Don't make the goal finding a GF, but instead make friends with women, and eventually you will come across one who will grow fond of you...

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Cariad posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:08 AM

Step one, get up and walk away from your computer. 

Step two, Go outside and meet people.

Usually a good place to start.


Gareee posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:13 AM

The biggest thing, seriously? Everyone I know thats always single is at home for one reason or anoher most of the time.

Get the hell out, and mingle. Do things you like where there are others that are like minded. If you aren't out interacting with other people, you'll never meet anyone at all.

And be mindful of your appearance. Us guys can be happy in a 10 year old t-shirt, and 70's bell bottomed jeans, but get some clean up-to-date clothes. They don't have to be anything expensive, but look at least like you are in the 90's. ;)

Also grooming. yeah women love the scruffy looking unbathed, unshaven, unkept guys on tv, but in real life, they'll cross the street to avoid you.

Out of shape? No excuses. Work to get back IN shape. And not in the house. Get the hell out. (See the first paragraph.)

Nothing comes without effort, and relationships are the same way. Put as much effort into yourself as you do in zbrush! ;)

 

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TheOwl posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:18 AM

Quote - Oh and watch that show "pickup artist". Its about guys that are in a similar boat that learn how to pick up chicks.

 

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SamTherapy posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:19 AM

The only useful advice I can think of is to learn guitar and join a band.  You'll have to beat them away with a shitty stick.  :D

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pakled posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:31 AM

QFT, even I found a wife whilst in a band...;)

Check your  personal appearance and  mental attitude as well; and remember that 'typical woman' is an oxymoron. Go places where women are, maybe think about what you really want, and where you might find it.

There's actually a show called Pickup Artist?..;) Cripes a mighty, 'picking up chicks'...that's a blast from the past...;) Yeah, as mentioned previously, what works for one guy probably won't work for another, and no matter who, it depends on the woman...

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stewer posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 11:57 AM

Quote - The biggest thing, seriously? Everyone I know thats always single is at home for one reason or anoher most of the time.

Get the hell out, and mingle. Do things you like where there are others that are like minded. If you aren't out interacting with other people, you'll never meet anyone at all.

Correct. The best way to meet lots of people (including women) is hobbies. Take an arts class, like sculpting or drawing. You'll meet like-minded people and since you have the same hobby, you have something to talk about right away. Talk to anyone there, not just the ones you find attractive - you'll meet nice people that you would have ignored otherwise and you'll eventaully get much more comfortable around strangers.


EClark1894 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 12:40 PM

I agree with W and W. Go to church. Or take a class. As Gareee notes, any thing to get you out of that damn house or apartment and away from your computer.




kyhighlander59 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 12:42 PM

why bother, just subscribe to Playboy and don't leave yourself open for heartache. LOL

 


Khai-J-Bach posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 12:51 PM

chloroform and a large sack.



SamTherapy posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 12:53 PM

Quote - chloroform and a large sack.

:lol:

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NanetteTredoux posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 1:31 PM

Better yet, take a class in something females are interested in. You could also join a charity organisation if you are not religiously inclined.

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TheOwl posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 1:34 PM

A dancing club would be a good start to look for one.

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Hawkfyr posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 2:06 PM

First...Drink booze until you become an alcoholic...Then...go to Alcoholics Anonymous....

When it comes to finding relationships in AA...The Odds Are Good...

...But The Goods Are Odd.

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Miss Nancy posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 2:09 PM

the big problem: he's in L.A. - money talks, and everything else walks.  what I've heard is that even average-looking guys will get hit on by some ladies almost anywhere, if they try to act interested in said ladies.  it may actually be kinda creepy at first, but they're the ones with the cash.  the ones with the bling are probly not gonna waste time, as they're already overcompensating for a lack of cash and personality IMVHO.  YMMV.

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Winterclaw posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 2:22 PM

Wait for gynoids to be invented.

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Acadia posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 4:15 PM

Quote - Better yet, take a class in something females are interested in.

 

Yepp!  There is some retired hockey or football  player coming here to talk.  While neither my friend or I like sports, we have decided to go. We figure that there will be men from all walks of life there, and it could very well work out to our advantage

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TheOwl posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 4:23 PM

Any of you ladies here in the forum consider to give tebop a sympathy relationship?

 

He might be the nice guy you are looking for. I think he offers a 30 day Trial.

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RedPhantom posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 4:36 PM Site Admin

Good grooming, clean semi fashionable clothes, clean hair, deoderant, light on the cologne - don't bathe in it, clean teeth, fresh breath - try gum. 

Get out of the house. Do something in groups, take a class, go to church (or other place of worship) Don't use pick up lines. Talk with the woman a few times before asking her out. Talk about real world things, not poser. Don't mention vicky or nviatwas. You can share that later if you 2 hook up and you know if she's secure with you looking at naked women (no matter how fake they maybe). Don't push too hard. My DFL is single again after 48 years and has scared off more women by being to eager and I don't mean physically either.

Don't be afraid to let friends set you up.

You say you are old, but then use the term girl. Are you looking at much younger women? If so, you might try women more your age. Otherwise you might not want to call them girls. Women might not like to be called old, but they don't like to be called childs either.


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Acadia posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 4:54 PM

You seem more comfortable in an online environment, so you can try online personals

 

http://www.100bestdatingsites.com/

Some browsers such as Yahoo also offer friend finder personals. My friend met her husband (now ex) through Yahoo personals.

Some of the sites in the link above are free, others are not. Some of the free ones that I know of are Lavalife, match.com, plenty of fish. Some sites are free to advertise but if you want to make contact with someone you have to pay money to do so.  You'll have to click through the links and read the sites to find that kind of stuff out.
If you have money to spend on a dating site, you can try eHarmony.  There they match you based on personality and interests and goals rather than by looks.

At those friend finder sites you can advertise for your specific location, or anywhere in the world.

Something to keep in mind on thos friend finder sites. There are a lot of game players such as lonely married people looking for affairs, some prostitutes use these sites to find clients, etc. etc.   And no one is screened by the police, so it's up to you to weed out the weirdos.

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wolf359 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 5:00 PM

So the rift between our two universes has opened briefly
 Allowing "JosterD"
to return home and "Tebop"
to re-appear on our side.....oh joy!!!



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Dave-So posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 5:23 PM

grocery store is a good place, but don't be overzealous checking out your new chosen woman while you passionately fondle the melons.

Really, the grocery store is a great place. just open up with idle chit chat about the price of beef and chicken, the rising cost of milk, and all that, then casually slip in that you're going to be cooking out and would you want to come over for a steak ? maybe a beer ?

also, just be real..none of that phoney stuff. Hey, I'm an old fart too, but if you're nice and just talk about stuff, especially when there's a few people around..and be humerous...its a real ice breaker.

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scanmead posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 6:13 PM

grrr... although I haven't reached 60 yet, desperation has never reared its ugly head. Old doesn't mean no standards, and, if you're over 50 and single by choice, well, it's by choice.

Second, grocery stores are full of people who just want to buy food, get through the long lines, and get the heck out of there.  Please do not try to flirt when I'm ticked off about the price of tenderloins.

What's wrong with just enjoying things by yourself? Leave romance to those young enough to put up with the stress.

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geep posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 6:14 PM

Quote - > Quote - Better yet, take a class in something females are interested in.

 

Yepp!  There is some retired hockey or football  player coming here to talk.  While neither my friend or I like sports, we have decided to go. We figure that there will be men from all walks of life there, and it could very well work out to our advantage

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Dave-So posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 6:22 PM

hey, I've always wanted to be a hockey or football player, and I'm not retired...does that count?

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tebop posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 7:46 PM

Classes seem to work with people who are already outgoing gregarious people. But i was in school for all my life and there were women and i never met them.

Most outgoing people dont' like antisocial people who are just starting and trying to talk for the first time.

They like experienced people who can come up with great conversations.

 

So i don't see how classes may help me.

But thanks all. great comments


Dave-So posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:19 PM

well then, screw the classes. wait...that's comes later in the date.

Really ... and seriously .... to get used to talking to people and socializing a bit..go to the store, the grocery store..and just chat up people..just a little bit. it will help with your confidence ... and you will see that people will start to respond. Almost everybody seems to try to stick to themselves, avoid eye contact, and all that stuff. We all need to loosen up a bit.

Just walk down the street and say hi to people. a lot will still ignore you, but the nice ones will say hi back, and maybe even smile. It all helps your ego. just blow off in your mind the crappy ones. they may have more on their minds and in their lives then you even want to deal with and know about anyway.

I'm actually pretty shy and introverted. I've forced myself to just start talking. quite often people look at me like I'm nuts, but I've learned to figure out what they're about a bit and just throw out some off the wall comment, and damn, they laugh..and when that happens, they open up to you. Its really strange, but its that ice breaking moment.

Believe me ... I've been around a bit, in many different cities, and in different situations with different types of people. We're all a bit closed and distant, for the most part.

And someone did recommend church ... this can be a bit cliquee as well, but most believers are pretty nice folks and will be friendly.

It all takes time, especially if you've not been around a lot of people. just don;t give up if you are really truly interested in meeting somebody. And I tell you what..a lot of younger women like older guys ..money or not. It depends on if they're looking for a nice guy or are in the stage of needing to have mr jockstrap. A lot of very beautiful, smart young women would prefer a more mature, intelligent guy. someone who is more into them than themselves.

 

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Dave-So posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:24 PM

and just to say...I worked at a very large university for quite a few years, and still work around a lot of women..all ages... I'm overweight, very average or less looking, out of shape, old 60+ ..but , believe me, if you're listening to what women are telling you, they will be interested in you. You just need to be honest, polite, friendly. Don't act like a wad. Don't be a poser.

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ShawnDriscoll posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:24 PM

Watch Cary Grant movies (his later ones).

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Dave-So posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:30 PM

oh ..and if you are older and have been at least watching TV ..or whatever... I mean, damn dude, you must have been doing something all your life, yes? reading, doing 3D stuff...art, whatever..plus you said you have been going to school all your life...

well there you have it ... stuff to talk about.

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kyhighlander59 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:31 PM

Forget about the personal ads, most of those are hookers. The obits are the place to score. There was an older man who came home from his wife's funeral to get half a dozen calls from women, whom he had never met, wanting to meet him.


imagination304 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:43 PM

CHANGE (your mind and your appearance)

No change, nothing happens.

You may easily find books on this topics in Amazon or bookstore.


TheOwl posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:49 PM

Attached Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2s9A_yOjI

 

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Quote - grocery store is a good place, but don't be overzealous checking out your new chosen woman while you passionately fondle the melons.

Really, the grocery store is a great place. just open up with idle chit chat about the price of beef and chicken, the rising cost of milk, and all that, then casually slip in that you're going to be cooking out and would you want to come over for a steak ? maybe a beer ?

also, just be real..none of that phoney stuff. Hey, I'm an old fart too, but if you're nice and just talk about stuff, especially when there's a few people around..and be humerous...its a real ice breaker.

Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!


kyhighlander59 posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 8:56 PM

With all BS aside, if this is a serious question here is a serious answer. Contact a professional match maker. They are discreet and you'll have a better match than you will do on your own.


moriador posted Thu, 05 May 2011 at 10:50 PM

Lots of good advice by people here, except the pick-up artist stuff. Pickup tactics only work for very charismatic men. The rest look fake and desperate. Fake and desperate is not attractive.

You say you're old... but not how old.

If you're over 30 and still having trouble with this, I think it may be time to admit that you have some serious social anxiety problems (or maybe you're in the asperger's spectrum, which presents its own unique challenges), in which case, perhaps some work with a therapist who specializes in this kind of thing is what you really need.

You say that girls rarely approach you. Is that really a surprise? People rarely approach random strangers for no good reason. It seems as though you just expect women to come to you. It doesn't work that way unless you're Brad Pitt.


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SteveJax posted Fri, 06 May 2011 at 1:01 AM

Stop hanging around here.


RobynsVeil posted Fri, 06 May 2011 at 1:45 AM

You might look at the phrase "get a GF" and reconsider what exactly your objectives are. Short-term relationship? Sex? Or are you looking for a soulmate? Each of these require a somewhat different approach.

If it is a serious, long-term relationship you are after, confidence, grooming, cleanliness, sincerity, honesty, faithfulness, a good sense of humour: these are some appealing attributes you can work on whilst you learn to socialise. Remember, you want the appeal to last longer than just that initial meeting: those traits will help you develop and maintain a friendship with that special person, which will sustain you through the inevitable hiccups one encounters in a relationship. Develop friendships first. Relationships will follow.

This is not about "acquisition" (get)... it is about developing a relationship. A relationship implies commitment.

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RobynsVeil posted Fri, 06 May 2011 at 4:14 PM

😄 Thank you.

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scanmead posted Fri, 06 May 2011 at 4:35 PM

People of Walmart. Just my cup of tea. /sarcasm

One more tip? Don't let any potential partners see this thread. Trying to make virtual girl friends is a very large red flag.


Cage posted Fri, 06 May 2011 at 11:36 PM

Of course, a relationship could really cut into one's Poser time, and one's 'Rosity time.  So there's that to consider.  It could mean spending less time with virtual people who bend kind of funny.  (Which might describe either the Poser figures or your fellow 'Rosity denizens.  Hmm.)

 

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joequick posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 1:28 AM

http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738 Myself and most of my guy friends would argue that there's value in the above. We were in our mid twenties when we read it, and all at different stages of long term relationships. But we all learned something. All those painful unrequited loves, I understood what had made me unappealing. A buddy who's a forman uses it to maintain authority.

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moriador posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 3:27 AM

RobynsVeil... well put, indeed!

I wasn't sure how to say what you said without sounding rude.

Yeah, there's some strange language surrounding each gender's approach to partnering. Men "get" girlfriends, as though they're pursuing objects not relationships. Women "find" husbands, as though the men are lost without them. Sexist in both cases. Subtle language differences affect how we perceive a problem. We need to reframe our thinking.

Then again, it's not just in Poserland that we "make" friends... though we probably won't pose them, unless they're very drunk and we want revenge for a malicious Facebook tag.


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moriador posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 3:43 AM

Quote - http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating-Secret-Society-Artists/dp/0060554738 Myself and most of my guy friends would argue that there's value in the above. We were in our mid twenties when we read it, and all at different stages of long term relationships. But we all learned something. All those painful unrequited loves, I understood what had made me unappealing. A buddy who's a forman uses it to maintain authority.

I didn't read this book. The reviews suggest that he is offering advice that any woman would think obvious. "Intrigue a beautiful woman by pretending to be unaffected by her charm; also, never hit on a woman right away. Start with a disarming, innocent remark.... And finally, the most important characteristic of the pickup artist--smile."

Um, d'uh!

So, yes. If this book is filled with such advice, I'd suggest buying it. It will probably help.

I did read a similar book aimed at women. Worked. Like a charm. Literally. It did not help me to maintain a long term relationship at all (real friendship is the best foundation, IMO). But it gave me a few 4-6 month ones that I might not have enjoyed otherwise.

I'd be cautious with the "negging" (tactical putdowns), though. I've seen more than a few guys get doused with drinks, cut to shreds with malicious rejoinders, and even one who got headbutted after trying this one. Outside of reality shows, today's young woman does not put up with that crap nearly as readily as my generation did.


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Dave-So posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 6:53 AM

whats negging ?

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patorak3d posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 7:01 AM

Hi Tebop,

Have you considered a monastery?

 

 


Dave-So posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 7:04 AM

whats negging?

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scanmead posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 7:53 AM

Not having read the book at the link, I can only suppose it's putting someone "in their place" by insulting them. Manipulation to keep them off-balance. Childish, and as stated above, possibly dangerous to the user. Better hope it's not the hills of Tennesse, and she doesn't have brothers with rifles. I have dumped beer over a jerk's head. Think about it: Why would anyone with half a brain waste time on someone who doesn't respect them?

Now, are we talking about stupid games to procure free sex, or trying to establish some sort of real connection with another human being? Women do qualify as human the last time I checked.


Dave-So posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 7:55 AM

didn't Aretha Franklin have a song about R-E-S-P-E-C-T ?

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joequick posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 9:39 AM

Quote - Not having read the book at the link, I can only suppose it's putting someone "in their place" by insulting them. Manipulation to keep them off-balance. Childish, and as stated above, possibly dangerous to the user. Better hope it's not the hills of Tennesse, and she doesn't have brothers with rifles. I have dumped beer over a jerk's head. Think about it: Why would anyone with half a brain waste time on someone who doesn't respect them?

Now, are we talking about stupid games to procure free sex, or trying to establish some sort of real connection with another human being? Women do qualify as human the last time I checked.

And when we assume... I would advise giving the book a read through and ignoring the feedback of anyone who has an opinion on something they haven't read. I passed the book off on a female co-worker who saw me reading it and was intrigued. She didn't find any of it offensive. She understood herself better.

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TheOwl posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 11:48 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3721203&ebot_calc_page#message_372

I read that book and it doesn't work. Believe me you will turn up creepy if you follow exactly what was taught there.

 

Unless you are either of the following: caucasian, tall, hot (physically built or handsome) or you have lots of money and status like working as a NY Times Writer.

 

Women in my experience will decide within 3 secs if they want you or not. If you pull off this weird routines on them when they dont find you attractive it will only result to rejection.

 

A guy named JosterD asked the same question and you can see our replies on the above link.

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TheOwl posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 11:52 AM

Quote - whats negging?

Is a technique which they use to generate attraction by insulting a woman using back handed complements.

Unfortunately this doesn't work with unattractive/low status people and many dont understand this well enough that they end up hurting the woman emotionally.

Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!


joequick posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 11:58 AM

Quote - I read that book and it doesn't work. Believe me you will turn up creepy if you follow exactly what was taught there.

 

Unless you are either of the following: caucasian, tall, hot (physically built or handsome) or you have lots of money and status like working as a NY Times Writer.

 

Women in my experience will decide within 3 secs if they want you or not. If you pull off this weird routines on them when they dont find you attractive it will only result to rejection.

 

A guy named JosterD asked the same question and you can see our replies on the above link.

 

If you read it, then you missed the point and only tried to pull the most shallow of meaning from it.  At no point have I suggested that he try any of the routines in the book.  Everything I've suggested about it's value goes a fair share deeper than that.  Those routines are ice-breakers.  They're to get guys comfortable with aproaching girls and give them something to say or do.  What the book guides you toward is being the best version of yourself you can be, and if you skipped all that and just borrowed a couple pick up lines... then you just didn't get it at all.

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TheOwl posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 12:22 PM

I know what you mean but according to the thousands upon thousands of so called average frustrated chumps who complain in their seduction forums about getting rejected and shot down by women, these ice breakers dont work 90% of the time to generate enough attraction to keep these women and those who did have the qualities I have mentioned above.

There is this show in VH1 called the pickup artist and the finalist who won the game was shown talking to an attractive woman using the routines taught to him and she said something like "Its not about what you say, its about how you look like."

Look I know it sounds shallow but that's the way it works to attract women but to keep them is another story.

You cannot be "the best version of yourself" if clearly from the start the book taught the readers to use ice breakers when the truth is men should not spit game on women unless they chose him first.

The reason is simple, so that both parties wont waste time and energy on people they dont want.

Passion is anger and love combined. So if it looks angry, give it some love!


Dave-So posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 12:44 PM

what most people don't realize is that its really not all about "looks".
Sure, there are a lot of very attractive people that have a good heart and personality, that are honest, caring, giving, and all those great virtues, but it doesn't always come with the package.

I've spoken to a lot of handsome people, make and female, that are so stuck on themselves its enough to make you puke. A lot of them have this magic get out of jail free card...bounce through life with their golden smile, when in reality they're nasty, step on anyone to get ahead, assholes. There's a lot of them. They expect everyone to fall over for them cause they're so beautiful ... and there is no doubt that they make it a lot of the time because of those traits. Its mindboggling.

and I'm going, what a shallow prick.

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scanmead posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 1:40 PM

I have utterly no interest in reading material on this subject. I have utterly no interest in being "picked up", or in "picking up" anyone, or any pop-psychology explanation of why I react the way I do. Simple: pay me a backhanded compliment, and you're an instant bore. Whatever happened to "May I buy you a drink?", "Would you like to dance?", "Would you like to go to dinner?" ???

For gosh sakes, discuss something that doesn't make the girl's eyes roll back in her head. Whether it's football, theoretical physics, or Lady Gaga, find out what interests her, then find a common ground.


joequick posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 3:16 PM

Quote - I have utterly no interest in reading material on this subject. I have utterly no interest in being "picked up", or in "picking up" anyone, or any pop-psychology explanation of why I react the way I do. Simple: pay me a backhanded compliment, and you're an instant bore. Whatever happened to "May I buy you a drink?", "Would you like to dance?", "Would you like to go to dinner?" ???

For gosh sakes, discuss something that doesn't make the girl's eyes roll back in her head. Whether it's football, theoretical physics, or Lady Gaga, find out what interests her, then find a common ground.

 

Then you'll be happy to know I wasn't talking to you, I was trying to help the person who started the thread, because the thread is kind of about them and not about you. Go get your attention somewhere else.

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scanmead posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 3:20 PM

Quote - > Quote - Not having read the book at the link, I can only suppose it's putting someone "in their place" by insulting them. Manipulation to keep them off-balance. Childish, and as stated above, possibly dangerous to the user. Better hope it's not the hills of Tennesse, and she doesn't have brothers with rifles. I have dumped beer over a jerk's head. Think about it: Why would anyone with half a brain waste time on someone who doesn't respect them?

Now, are we talking about stupid games to procure free sex, or trying to establish some sort of real connection with another human being? Women do qualify as human the last time I checked.

And when we assume... I would advise giving the book a read through and ignoring the feedback of anyone who has an opinion on something they haven't read. I passed the book off on a female co-worker who saw me reading it and was intrigued. She didn't find any of it offensive. She understood herself better.

 

hmmm... seemed to be talking to me. My bad.


SteveJax posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 3:42 PM

And this is why I reccommend people never ask you lot anything serious beyond "How do I take Vicky's clothes off?"! :rolleyes:


RobynsVeil posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 5:51 PM

Quote - > Quote - I have utterly no interest in reading material on this subject. I have utterly no interest in being "picked up", or in "picking up" anyone, or any pop-psychology explanation of why I react the way I do. Simple: pay me a backhanded compliment, and you're an instant bore. Whatever happened to "May I buy you a drink?", "Would you like to dance?", "Would you like to go to dinner?" ???

For gosh sakes, discuss something that doesn't make the girl's eyes roll back in her head. Whether it's football, theoretical physics, or Lady Gaga, find out what interests her, then find a common ground.

Then you'll be happy to know I wasn't talking to you, I was trying to help the person who started the thread, because the thread is kind of about them and not about you. Go get your attention somewhere else.

Is that one of those back-handed compliments? Wow. Very effective. :blink:

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Miss Nancy posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 6:06 PM

back-handed compliments:

however, they only work with needy d00dz - they don't work with "girls" IMVHO. 



Cage posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 6:24 PM

When starting a relationship with one of the Poser Not We (a non-Poser type person), should you tell them about your Poser habit?  Or should it be hidden until the relationship is fairly secure, like an odd sexual quirk or strange bathroom habits, or an off-putting blemish in a troubling location?  (Note: It should not be assumed that Cage necessarily has any of these things.  Ahem.)

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Dave-So posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 6:29 PM

you should be right up front about it. she may want to play too..or you may have a shock to find out she's one of the members of this forum all along and has been using Poser since V1 !!!

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moriador posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 10:32 PM

Quote - When starting a relationship with one of the Poser Not We (a non-Poser type person), should you tell them about your Poser habit?  Or should it be hidden until the relationship is fairly secure, like an odd sexual quirk or strange bathroom habits, or an off-putting blemish in a troubling location?  (Note: It should not be assumed that Cage necessarily has any of these things.  Ahem.)

Hah. It's a good question.

Heck, how do you deal with revealing your Poser habit should you have acquired it after the relationship was secured?

I mean: are we all really totally honest with our partners about 1. how much money we spend on this hobby 2. how much time we spend on this hobby 3. how often we wonder how our partner would look with a .5 bellythin .25 young .7 definition morph?


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patorak3d posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 11:17 PM

Personally,  the only woman i'd be interested in dating is my best friend i met in Portsmouth in 1984.

 

 


tebop posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 11:44 PM

Quote - Personally,  the only woman i'd be interested in dating is my best friend i met in Portsmouth in 1984.

 

i bet if i put 100 hot ladies in front of you you wouldn't re sist


RobynsVeil posted Sat, 07 May 2011 at 11:59 PM

Quote - > Quote - Personally,  the only woman i'd be interested in dating is my best friend i met in Portsmouth in 1984.

i bet if i put 100 hot ladies in front of you you wouldn't re sist

...and this is why you're inexperienced and wanting to "get a GF"... Patorak knows the meaning of a relationship, obviously. Good luck with your acquisition.

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moriador posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 1:10 AM

Here ya go!

http://www.cloudgirlfriend.com/


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pzrite posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 1:54 AM

I haven't been around here much lately, but decided to drop by and see what's new.  And I saw this thread and thought, finally...something I'm somewhat of an expert on. I'm not an expert on women, but I know a lot about ways for shy men to meet them.

As it already has been discussed, the personal ads either in your local paper or a REPUTABLE online site is the best way to go.  Contrary to what one person says they are NOT filled with hookers, unless you're looking at Craig's List or something sleazy like that.

I'm 48, been married for 14 years, but for over 10 years before that I did a LOT of dating through the personal ads.  First in New Jersey through The Bergen Record, and then when I moved to Seattle through The Eastside Weekly (which is how I met my wife)

I've never been the sort to do the bar scene, I've never had enough nerve to go up to a woman and buy her a drink.  I'm not the greatest looking guy in the world, but I have a decent personality and I knew that my looks (first impression) would not always get me to the conversation stage and I would be set up for lots of rejection.

So, the personal ads.  The great thing about doing personal ads is that you can post your picture, see pictures of women, and you know what each other looks like before you even meet.  So I know if a woman agreed to meet me, after seeing my picture, I am past the first major hurdle.  And in turn, I can also see what she looks like as well, and while I do have some standards as far as looks, I don't really care or want the "model type" of woman. 

And through the personal ads, you can also filter out the types of people that don't fit your personality.  You can be very specific or as general as you want.  Although most people share a love of humor, good movies and romance,  you can find people that have your specific type of humor, likes sci-fi movies or other specifc types of things.

And my last word of advice, is you have to have a LOT of patience.  I did the dating scene for 10 YEARS before I found the woman I married.  I dated many many dozens of women.  Some for a few months, but mostly they were just one time dates.  Either she didn't like me or I didn't like her.   In New Jersey I dated a woman for almost a year and we were talking about getting married, but in the end it didn't work out.  So you have to expect to go on a lot of dates, which is okay because you get to kind of "practice" on the ones that don't stick.   One of my nervous habits when meeting someone for dinner was I was constantly fiddling with the silverware.  A habit I broke myself of after a couple of women asked if I made them nervous.

So it goes something like this: either place an ad or respond to one.  Correspond with each other (mail, email, phone) for a while.  Move on to the date.  It could be lunch, dinner or just drinks.  Don't go to a movie on the first date because you need a chance to talk to each other.  And definitely DO NOT tell them your sob stories.  Don't talk about yourself exclusively,  let her talk and at least try to act like you're interested in what she is saying. 

Some guys will disagree, but don't expect to "get lucky" on the first date.  Especially through dating ads.  There's a lot of weirdos out there (both men and women) Ah, the stories I could tell! I actually wrote a song about my dating experiences called, "Mabel Plastic: Profession Freeze Queen from Hell"   Anyway, you have to get comfortable with each other first.  Women especially need to know you are not a whacko before they invite you home.

I hope that helps.  Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

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TheOwl posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 7:37 AM

Quote -   It could be lunch, dinner or just drinks.  Don't go to a movie on the first date because you need a chance to talk to each other.  And definitely DO NOT tell them your sob stories.  Don't talk about yourself exclusively,  let her talk and at least try to act like you're interested in what she is saying. 

 

This is the best advice of a man to another man. Very true.

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Dave-So posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 8:06 AM

it may be a lost cause, tebop, if you listen like this

 It's Logic

Women probably won't understand this, so ask a man to explain it to you.

A wife asks her husband "Could you please go shopping for me and buy one carton of milk, and if they have eggs, get 6".
A short time later the husband comes back with 6 cartons of milk. The wife asks him, "Why the hell did you buy 6 cartons of milk?"He replied, "They had eggs."

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JenX posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 8:41 AM

:lol:  I hate to laugh, but my husband does that all the time to me.  I'll mis-speak when asking him to get groceries, or text a shorthand list to him....and he'll come back without the thing I asked for, but 13 of the thing he went for in the first place, confused as to why he just spent $30 on brownie mix when we have no eggs.  I have to keep remembering that not everyone knows shorthand, and, sometimes, I say the wrong things.

 

But, a tip, guys, if what your wife asks you to do sounds kind of insane (like buying $30 worth of brownie mix), ask her if she'e sure! 

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patorak3d posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 9:10 AM

i still remember the time we spent together.  Her family that i met. The cathedral she took me to.  The drive in the countryside.  

i think if my best friend arrived for a visit,  i would ask her if she would like to give me a hand planting the late spring garden.  Would that be considered a date?

 

 


Dave-So posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 9:12 AM

no ...

that would be considered free labor

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geep posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 9:37 AM

Quote - no ...

that would be considered free labor

:lol:

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obm890 posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 10:38 AM

Quote - But, a tip, guys, if what your wife asks you to do sounds kind of insane (like buying $30 worth of brownie mix), ask her if she'e sure! 

Or ask her if she's pregnant ;-)



obm890 posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 10:56 AM

Quote - When starting a relationship with one of the Poser Not We (a non-Poser type person), should you tell them about your Poser habit?  Or should it be hidden until the relationship is fairly secure, like an odd sexual quirk or strange bathroom habits, or an off-putting blemish in a troubling location?  (Note: It should not be assumed that Cage necessarily has any of these things.  Ahem.)

I find that telling her about it is easy if you wait until she has her clothes off, so don't rush it, wait at least wait an hour or two after you first meet. Then you can compliment her at the same time by saying things like "You have pretty armpits, nice and low" or "Your toes are normal length, thank heavens for that". And my favorite one "You're really supple, Vicky can't do that without her hips going all weird".



patorak3d posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 11:07 AM

(face palm in embarassment)

 

...wait a minute...how many batches of brownies would 30 lbs make?

 

 


JenX posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 11:28 AM

Quote - (face palm in embarassment)  

...wait a minute...how many batches of brownies would 30 lbs make?

 

No idea...but, I do know that I have enough to make a double batch a week until August. :lol:

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patorak3d posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 11:42 AM

Mmmm...

 

 


kyhighlander59 posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 11:48 AM

I met my wife in church when she was 13 and I was 16. Never dated before that much, or after with anyone else. What was the point, I had already met her. The One. So I was actually refering to Craigs list and a few of the online sites that keep hitting me up with spam.


patorak3d posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 2:00 PM

Hey JenX,  what kind of topping?  Plain?  Frosted?  Powered sugar?

 

 


Miss Nancy posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 2:24 PM

that would be another good tip for joster - steer clear of potential girl-friends with cell-phones glued to their ears in public places.  it means they're very clingy and insecure.  with d00dz it means the same thing - can't get out of contact with their GF for one second, or some better-looking/more confident guy with more bling will steal her away from him.



patorak3d posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 3:19 PM

...a double batch a week doesn't leave much time for making strawberry tarts...

 

 


JenX posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 3:25 PM

Quote - Hey JenX,  what kind of topping?  Plain?  Frosted?  Powered sugar?

 

These don't need topping...they're fudgy and gooey.  But, I drizzle melted peanut butter on mine. 

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Acadia posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 3:48 PM

Quote - grocery store is a good place, but don't be overzealous checking out your new chosen woman while you passionately fondle the melons.

Really, the grocery store is a great place. just open up with idle chit chat about the price of beef and chicken, the rising cost of milk, and all that, then casually slip in that you're going to be cooking out and would you want to come over for a steak ? maybe a beer ?

also, just be real..none of that phoney stuff. Hey, I'm an old fart too, but if you're nice and just talk about stuff, especially when there's a few people around..and be humerous...its a real ice breaker.

 

To be honest, the last thing on my mind when I'm at a grocery store is to meet a guy. In fact I go to all sorts of lengths to avoid talking to people when I'm grocery shopping. The only exception of course is if someone asks my advice on a grocery item, or I'm sitting at Starbucks taking a needed back rest break. However, even then I'm not interested in some strange guy chatting me up and asking me over to his place for a BBQ. I think that would be kind of creepy actually.

My advice is to not try so hard to "find a girl friend."  Go out and get involved in life and activities. Take a class. Volunteer.  Meet people as friends without any pressure for anything more.

If there is chemistry there between you and someone else, great!  But don't go out looking for it because you will only come across as desperate. And there is nothing more of a turn off to both men and women is someone trying too hard to impress or "snag" a partner.

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Cage posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 5:32 PM

"The man who listens to a woman," grunts Betty Page, "goes farther than the one who talks to them!"

So the secret is not to talk to women.  Huh.  :unsure:

Cheesecake models: is there any problem they can't solve?

 

(Nudity flag for photo which is mildly salacious, in a fifties-ish way....)

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Miss Nancy posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 8:06 PM

did they explain why she was grunting, rather than just speaking in her natural southern accent?  if joster wants a date with a girl, he could definitely try that, but they won't open up to him (start talking) until they decide he's not creepy, hence it's necessary to interpret their body language and facial expressions with lightning-like speed and absolute precision, as they will decide whether he's creepy in the first 6.5 seconds.  YMMV.



LaurieA posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 8:51 PM

Shame it's not like the old days when all you needed was copious amounts of booze and a Barry White album.

Laurie



wolf359 posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 9:15 PM

Quote - did they explain why she was grunting, rather than just speaking in her natural southern accent?  if joster wants a date with a girl, he could definitely try ........

 

Ummm this OP is  "Tebop",
Superman Tricked "JosterD" into saying his own name backwards which sent him back to his universe and returned "Tebop" home to ours.

 

 

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Cage posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 9:39 PM

Quote - did they explain why she was grunting, rather than just speaking in her natural southern accent?

I suspect the publisher may have been putting words into the mouth of the model.  Doesn't seem like fifties girlie mags were the place to find accurate quotes or the best verb for the situation.  :unsure:

Yes, it's probably very bad advice, for starting out.  The image made me laugh, when I accidentally found it, and then it made me think of this thread.  Where it wasn't actually altogether appropriate.  Umm.  😊

 

Is there a case of double identities going around again?  Ooh!  I always thought that was interesting.  Probably hard to pull off, for very long, though.

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Miss Nancy posted Sun, 08 May 2011 at 10:53 PM

page was an S&M queen in those girlie mags - perhaps that's the source.  no need to go into graphic details. :lol:

anyway, that may just be the secret to how inexperienced older men can meet and become involved with girl-friends - the simple acronym "POBET".



Dave-So posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 5:41 AM

Quote - Is there a case of double identities going around again?  Ooh!  I always thought that was interesting.  Probably hard to pull off, for very long, though.

not really 😉

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patorak3d posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 12:20 PM

Hey!  There's a food category in the galleries!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?section_id=&genre_id=44

 

 


CStrauss posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 12:47 PM

Use a good pick up line to make them laugh or beat the hell out of you. If it is the ladder atleast you got some physical contact with a women :)

Here are some examples.

"If I flip a coin whats my chances of getting head ?"

"Can I tickle your tummy from the inside?"

"If I jump on your back will you beat me off ?"

Just a few try them out you should get some reaction from them


adroge posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 4:00 PM

Step 1: buy lots of porn

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Profit

Okay, seriously, look at what you're doing right now, and if it doesn't help you get to what you want, probably, do the opposite.

  1. get rid of your XXX-Box (as my friends and I would call it) - give it away to a friend if you can't bring yourself to dump it.

  2. I'm just guessing here, and I don't know how old you are, so you mileage will vary with this. Instead of looking for a girlfriend, look for a wife. Why do this? It will help you realize what you really want, and how you might need to change yourself.

Excitement is just for a little while, but fulfilment is forever (hopefully). Start thinking long term. If you do this, you might realize that all those people you liked before aren't really the best fit for you.

  1. Be yourself. If you come off as uncomfortable, the other person is probably going to get weird vibes and shy away. If you're a bundle of nerves, then start small, just talk to women for the heck of it, and don't try to get their contact information. You might find that one day they'll start giving it to you without you needing to ask.

Everyone get's "rejected" at some point. Expect that this will happen more offen than not, and when it does happen, move on. There are lots of people out there you're compatable with, it's just a matter of finding them.


patorak3d posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 4:25 PM

Tebop,  have you considered a monastery yet?  i know of a few people,  well they're a group,  that could point you in the right direction.

 

 


Dave-So posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 4:47 PM

priests get all the women they want. I've read that many times.

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patorak3d posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 6:38 PM

These ain't priests...What do you say Tebop?

 

 


Acadia posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 6:47 PM

Quote - What do you say Tebop?

 

I wouldn't expect a reply. JosterD/Tebop almost never posts in his threads outside of the initial post.

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jerr3d posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 7:21 PM

from Seinfeld:

"Elaine : Ah, George, you know, that woman just looked at you.

George : So what? What am I supposed to do?

Elaine : Go talk to her.

George : Elaine, bald men, with no jobs, and no money, who live with their parents, don't approach strange women.

Jerry : Well here's your chance to try the opposite. Instead of tuna salad and being intimidated by women, chicken salad and going right up to them.

George : Yeah, I should do the opposite, I should.

Jerry : If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right.

George : Yes, I will do the opposite. I used to sit here and do nothing, and regret it for the rest of the day, so now I will do the opposite, and I will do something!"


Miss Nancy posted Mon, 09 May 2011 at 10:12 PM

wait a bit - is adroge saying that these x-boxes used by kids for "first-person-shooter games" can receive porno somehow?  I did not know that.  only that 10s of millions of 'em had their credit card info compromised.



RobynsVeil posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 3:35 AM

Hmmmm - just ran "tebop" and "JosterD" through matmatic and got "troll". Wow, what script! Who would-a thunk? :biggrin:

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LaurieA posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 7:09 AM

Quote - Hmmmm - just ran "tebop" and "JosterD" through matmatic and got "troll". Wow, what script! Who would-a thunk? :biggrin:

 

If never posting a helpful answer to the forums and posting nothing but butt-stupid OT questions with pathetic subject lines that they never participate in again is a troll...



TheOwl posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 11:01 AM

troll? 

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adroge posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 11:42 AM

No. the XXX-Box is not the X-Box from Microsoft. Sorry, only guys would get this.

Quote - wait a bit - is adroge saying that these x-boxes used by kids for "first-person-shooter games" can receive porno somehow?  I did not know that.  only that 10s of millions of 'em had their credit card info compromised.


pzrite posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 1:52 PM

Quote - > Quote - Hmmmm - just ran "tebop" and "JosterD" through matmatic and got "troll". Wow, what script! Who would-a thunk? :biggrin:

 

If never posting a helpful answer to the forums and posting nothing but butt-stupid OT questions with pathetic subject lines that they never participate in again is a troll...

Are you telling me I wasted all that time and effort in writing out my response to help this guy and he's just jerking us off (so to speak)?

Oh well,  Anyway, while we're on the subject, I learned a long time ago a really great line to say in the face of rejection (if you ask a woman out and they say no).  This guy I used to work with, thought he was God's gift to women, would be constantly asking women out and almost always getting rejected, and his "save" line would be, "Just thought I'd ask."

That always stuck with me, because it's a great exit line for rejection.  It kind of says, okay no big deal, see ya.   But of course I never got a chance to use it before I got married.


LaurieA posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 3:05 PM

I think the OP, whichever name he happens to be using that day, just likes to sit back and watch what ensues from his, er, "questions" ;o). Is it trolling behavior? I guess it depends on who ya ask...lol.

Laurie



RobynsVeil posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 3:13 PM

Quote - I think the OP, whichever name he happens to be using that day, just likes to sit back and watch what ensues from his, er, "questions" ;o). Is it trolling behavior? I guess it depends on who ya ask...lol. Laurie

Behaviour which makes me wish all the more for the "ignore" button - these individuals are energy vampyres, with motives exactly as you described, Laurie, no more. That one response he did give pretty much confirmed it. Oh well, any posts with the above names automatically get ignored now by this poster, at least. Not enough hours in the day to waste on people like him.

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Dave-So posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 4:37 PM

you have to admit the this thread is somewhat entertaining at the very least.

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SteveJax posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 7:45 PM

Quote - > Quote - Hmmmm - just ran "tebop" and "JosterD" through matmatic and got "troll". Wow, what script! Who would-a thunk? :biggrin:

 

If never posting a helpful answer to the forums and posting nothing but butt-stupid OT questions with pathetic subject lines that they never participate in again is a troll...

 

Funny, but I think the people who keep those threads going are worse than the OP. They're the ones feeding the discussion. If the threads were just ignored they would have stopped long ago.


jartz posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 10:42 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Hmmmm - just ran "tebop" and "JosterD" through matmatic and got "troll". Wow, what script! Who would-a thunk? :biggrin:

 

If never posting a helpful answer to the forums and posting nothing but butt-stupid OT questions with pathetic subject lines that they never participate in again is a troll...

 

Funny, but I think the people who keep those threads going are worse than the OP. They're the ones feeding the discussion. If the threads were just ignored they would have stopped long ago.

 

Was thinking about the same thing.

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Cage posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 10:48 PM

I dunno.  I agree with Dave-So.  It's been interesting.

 

It's certainly been one of the more active threads, over the past few days, on a forum which seems to have sadly diminishing traffic.  :sad:  Seems like this place really used to hop and jump more than it does now.

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moriador posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 11:00 PM

Quote - I dunno.  I agree with Dave-So.  It's been interesting.

 

It's certainly been one of the more active threads, over the past few days, on a forum which seems to have sadly diminishing traffic.  :sad:  Seems like this place really used to hop and jump more than it does now.

Agree.

I don't mind OT threads like this that don't end up with ton of antagonism and hard feelings. We get to know the other forum members. Kinda builds/reinforces a sense of community. Trolls that don't bother to defend their original posts very vigorously aren't really all that bothersome. At least one of Joster's threads had me literally laughing out loud, even though, in a fit of sensitivity it was locked, and quite prematurely, I think.


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CobraEye posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 11:02 PM

Many of my couples or clients tell me they meet at online dating services.  Give it a try and you will find it works fantastically.


tebop posted Tue, 10 May 2011 at 11:27 PM

Cobra, don't even get me started with dating sites. they suck. Unless you live in a big popular city, you'll never find nothing in there. PLus nobody answers ever

 

Same thing with facebook. facebook is just for people who know eachother. it sucks ***!


RobynsVeil posted Wed, 11 May 2011 at 1:37 AM

Quote - Cobra, don't even get me started with dating sites. they suck. Unless you live in a big popular city, you'll never find nothing in there. PLus nobody answers ever Same thing with facebook. facebook is just for people who know eachother. it sucks ***!

Well, there ya go folks: our suggestions suck. :blink:

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SteveJax posted Wed, 11 May 2011 at 8:55 AM

Quote - > Quote - Cobra, don't even get me started with dating sites. they suck. Unless you live in a big popular city, you'll never find nothing in there. PLus nobody answers ever Same thing with facebook. facebook is just for people who know eachother. it sucks ***!

Well, there ya go folks: our suggestions suck. :blink:

 

And that suprises who exactly? :rolleyes:


Cage posted Wed, 11 May 2011 at 1:32 PM

If all the ideas so far suck, then I see only one more option.  A friend of mine used to complain that girls didn't notice him, because he was on the short side, with glasses and a generally average appearance.  He used to say that a person like him needs to have "peacock feathers" to get the attention of the opposite sex.

This might work as in A, in the above image.  Spoon Guy is sporting an impressively large spoon.  This is not as common as a bright tie, showy car, or extreme facial piercings, but it could work.  A big spoon is an instant conversation piece.

Spoon Guy is also hanging around with an obvious weirdo.  This makes Spoon Guy look better by comparison.  Possibly this is an example of the Hegelian Dialectic in use.  At any rate, it could be a helpful trick.

You might also consider Bob's approach in image B.  He has the jelly bean hat and the Amazing Lightning Pants happening.  Dress flash, pull the chicks.  If there's anything pop culture teaches us, isn't it just that?  Go out and purchase some fab gear and use that as the peacock feathers which nature may have cruelly omitted.

So.  Peacock feathers.  That's all I've got.

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LaurieA posted Wed, 11 May 2011 at 1:45 PM

My vote goes for those awesome lightening pants.

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Miss Nancy posted Wed, 11 May 2011 at 2:52 PM

I wouldn't want OP to use one of those dating sites.  he might end up in some situation where he wakes up in tijuana with a kidney missing.

in re: spoons, cage brings up an excellent point IMVHO.  just lookit how popular uri geller is with his spoon-bending™ , or even those guys in bars who see how long a spoon will stick to their forehead whilst somebody whacks the back of their head.



CStrauss posted Wed, 11 May 2011 at 6:45 PM

How about start a rosity dating site for all the singles here, some might argue dating is an art form sooooooo it falls into the art category. LOL just my random thought on this topic


moriador posted Thu, 12 May 2011 at 2:34 AM

Quote - Spoon Guy is also hanging around with an obvious weirdo.  This makes Spoon Guy look better by comparison.  Possibly this is an example of the Hegelian Dialectic in use.  At any rate, it could be a helpful trick.

Ah, wrong way round. Apparently, we tend to judge people by the company we keep. We aren't compared to them; we're averaged with them. What I mean is that according to more than a few psychology studies, the more good looking our friends are, the more good looking we appear to be. The opposite is also true.

In other words, wanna catch a nice fish? Hang out with people who are well equipped fishermen. {edit} Oops. I mean, hang out with fishermen who are properly equipped to catch fish. {/edit}

Wanna catch a babe? Hang out with rich, good looking, charming, well-dressed guys. And if you can't manage that, at least leave the banana at home. ;)


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moriador posted Thu, 12 May 2011 at 2:39 AM

Quote - How about start a rosity dating site for all the singles here, some might argue dating is an art form sooooooo it falls into the art category. LOL just my random thought on this topic

Good idea! If nothing else, the site would probably have the most interesting and original avatars. :)


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CStrauss posted Thu, 12 May 2011 at 4:39 PM

To expand on my rendrosity dating section if two people meet and are to far away from each other to go on a date they can make poser people and meeet up. lol And if it goes to the next level head over to Renderotia for they good stuff with your poser people :)


SamTherapy posted Thu, 12 May 2011 at 7:05 PM

All joking aside, I have never wanted for female company.  I don't think I'm some kind of irresistable sex god or anything; I'm just an average guy.  Maybe I'm just lucky.

What I do know is, it helps to be a good talker as well as a good listener.  If you're reasonably articulate and can talk about things other than beer, sport and sex, you're on the way.  Women - they are human, after all and not some alien species - enjoy a good chat.  It also helps if you have several interests and a broad range of subjects outside your personal obsessions.  You may find this hard to believe but Poser is not - and never has been - the centre of my universe.  It's not something I'd discuss in any detail other than with other 3Ders.

Also, there's a huge difference between confidence and arrogance.  A lot of men don't seem to have worked that one out.  In my experience, the women I've met tend to like guys who can handle themselves without throwing their weight around and who know what they're talking about.

 Maybe my experience isn't so helpful because I've never been on the lookout for a GF and I've never used a line in my life.  Whenever I got together with someone it's always been an accident of circumstance, a chance meeting or a friendship that went further than expected.  Perhaps that's why I've been so lucky; I never acted like a predator.

My selection process would probably be different from most guys, too.  I'm not in the least bit attracted to stupid people.  Women who are pretty but dumb are a big no-no for me.  Women who are pretty and very smart are a big turn on, though.  I have to respect someone as an equal first and foremost.

In any event, just making friends is a lot of fun; it doesn't have to lead to anything more.  If it does, that's a plus.

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moriador posted Thu, 12 May 2011 at 7:49 PM

Quote - What I do know is, it helps to be a good talker as well as a good listener.  If you're reasonably articulate and can talk about things other than beer, sport and sex, you're on the way.  Women - they are human, after all and not some alien species - enjoy a good chat.

Ah, this is exactly what I mean when I say "charisma," but I wasn't able to describe it so succinctly. The whole post pretty much says it all. I spent a huge part of my youth believing that this was so obvious that surely everyone knew it. I really did believe that guys who insisted on using strings of moronic pick-up lines, talking about themselves non-stop, and arrogantly boasting were doing it precisely because they actually just enjoyed annoying women... As a result, the guys who treated women as though they had something interesting to say got a lot more attention. In the end, if you don't like hanging out with women, or you don't like talking to and listening to women, they probably won't like you very much for very long. It's hard to believe that this continues to be such a mystery to so many people. But I suppose I'm glad, in many ways, that it remains so because it means that average looking, working men can continue to find mates for the simple reason that they actually enjoy women's company. Exactly as it should be.


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Acadia posted Thu, 12 May 2011 at 7:55 PM

Quote - Maybe my experience isn't so helpful because I've never been on the lookout for a GF and I've never used a line in my life.  Whenever I got together with someone it's always been an accident of circumstance, a chance meeting or a friendship that went further than expected.  Perhaps that's why I've been so lucky; I never acted like a predator.

 

And that is exactly what makes you "some kind of irresistable sex god."

Most women like normal, average guys who don't try too hard to impress and don't come off as something they aren't. 

 

Quote -My selection process would probably be different from most guys, too.  I'm not in the least bit attracted to stupid people.  Women who are pretty but dumb are a big no-no for me.  Women who are pretty and very smart are a big turn on, though.  I have to respect someone as an equal first and foremost.

 

That's how I feel about guys!

Physically I seem to gravitate to tall men with dark hair and dark eyes.  After that it's all about the brains!

I have a pretty high IQ and I look for a guy who typically has an IQ higher than mine. One that can not only carry on a deep conversation, but also one that can have a conversation that is completely nonsensical and goofy!

The last guy I had a long term relationship with was like that, and the only part of the relationship I miss is our conversations. He was amazing to talk with, whether it was a seriously deep conversation, or just something whimsical.

 

Quote - In any event, just making friends is a lot of fun; it doesn't have to lead to anything more.  If it does, that's a plus.

Probably the best advice given in this thread.

 

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LaurieA posted Thu, 12 May 2011 at 8:27 PM

I like smart people, and that includes men. If you can't have an intelligent conversation (about anything really) then I'm going to get bored quickly. And a good sense of humor is a definite must. While I've always liked a guy who can chat about nearly anything, I'm equally fond of silliness - done right ;o).

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