I've been trying to locate an Arc of the Covenant golden chest like the one in the Raiders of the Lost Arc movie. Anyone have any clues where I might find a 3d model of it?

Attached Link: Arc of Covenant

Well, looking around on Google, I ran across this one.

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Well, I decided to have a little go and modeled this yesterday, and then uv mapped it today... I'm debating on whether or not to make the angels mounted on top.

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Rooster, that's some mighty nice work.

BR, that is absolutely stunning! The reflections are right on.

Holy Hanna! That's beautiful!!!

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Well, between complexity, and my laziness, I opted against the angels on top. But since the top looked mighty empty, I had to add something. So here's my take on the Arc of the Covenant.

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That is stunning! Absolutely stunning!

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This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
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Supposedly lost..... I seriously believe it's a container of radioactive material left here by the aliens...

I should never have started watching the ancient aliens series, now everytime there is any question or topic of religion, I know it's aliens =/

And what is with aliens wanting all of our gold?!?

There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those that can count, and those that can't..

Quote - I should never have started watching the ancient aliens series

Glad I'm not the only one who watches stuff like that. I also like "Ancient Weather" and "Ancients Behaving Badly"

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I baked the textures on to save ya'all the hassle of loading them, cuz I'm being lazy on this and only uploading the obj lol

Anyways, here's the last render, I made it big so you can see the details better.

Question tho, would you guys prefer the high res or med res textures? It's either 2048(16mb TGA's) or 1024(4mb TGA's) for the bump maps. Difference is quite a bit of clarity and definition, but it's what you guys want.

BTW, the pic here was rendered with the 1024 textures.

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That 1024 looks pretty good. It will keep the file weight down a bit.

Ancient aliens has started something of a cult it seems. My apologies if I took your thread ot =P

But that is an awesome arc, I'm curious, you say you "baked" the texture into the model? How, w/ what software?!?

There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those that can count, and those that can't..

Quote - But that is an awesome arc

Thank you!

Quote - I'm curious, you say you "baked" the texture into the model? How, w/ what software?!?

Ok, what "I" mean by baked is, the textures and bump maps are in the mtl file, so when you import the obj, all the textures are there already.

You may have to mess with specularity and reflection tho.

And what I did was import the images into Wings (my modeling software), and assigned them to the appropriate material zone.

I hope this clears it up for you.

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yip =)

Thanks...

I can't ever get .mtl's to work, I usually delete them off the bat, lol...

But you've sparked my curiosity into using them just for that purpose, no need for applying anything...

There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those that can count, and those that can't..

Yeah it's like using Poser's mc6's

Anyways, i uploaded it a little bit ago, so it'ss be in the freebies as soon as it gets approved.

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Thanks, BR. Looking forward to playing around with this one.

Here's a version with angels if still needed.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/ark-p/84463

Attached Link: Arc of the Covenant

Here it is for those who want it.

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Thank you so much!! I was eagerly checking your free stuff for that!

Again! It's stunning! Thank you :)

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Thank you, BionicRooster! That is a beautiful piece of work! Somehow I want to get bending angels on top, instead of the book, like were in the Raider's movie, but this is a great beginning.

But... how do I find it. What do I search on to locate it in my library? Installed, but searching on rooster, arc, covenenant does not bring it up.

Well, I can supply you with a bookless model, then we can work on finding you a pose for V4, a robe, and some wings, and voila'! We have angels!

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More like this?

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Awesome BR! :)

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Attached Link: http://www.therpf.com/f9/finishing-1-1-ark-covenant-81600/

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WOW!! :woot: Amazing work!

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Quote - But... how do I find it. What do I search on to locate it in my library? Installed, but searching on rooster, arc, covenenant does not bring it up.

It's not made into a Poser prop, it's in raw .obj form.

To use it, you just have to: Import > Wavefront OBJ, from Poser's File menu, then direct it to wherever you extracted the files.

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does it come with an electric fence power supply? what voltage?

And, my very 1st comment on Arc #2 is:

Quote - No directory structure in the zip, and no text file to tell us what goes where in the runtime... If you're not an expert, don't bother downloading this.

Well, it's not even in the Poser Prop Catagory, it's listed under OBJ's, so that person's comment in just rude. But if that's the attitude I'm going to get, I'll just stop uploading stuff.

I do hope that some mod here will remove that comment from my freebie, as it's not even relevant, and besides, it's not my fault said member is an idiot and doesn't know how to import OBJ's. That's NOT an expert Poser ability, it's friggin Poser BASICS!!!

P.S. I did a search for that member's name and came up with 0 results. So either it's a ghost, or I don't know what.....

Sorryfor the rant, but that irritated the hell out of me....

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Yes, BionicRooster! The one with the angels is perfect! Beautiful. Could you possibly put it up for download?

And, so how do I load it to a scene? As an object and not from the library?

Attached Link: Arc of the Covenant Version 2

Michael, it's up for download now!

And yes, it's not in the Poser library, you have to Import the OBJ, and it should load with bump maps and texture intact. You may still have to play around with the gold and add specularity and reflection tho.

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Looks Great BR!

Thank you, Rooster. Is there a way the wings can be made so that they look less like a bird ready to pounce? :) If you see the Raider's Arc you'll see the wings are more vertical going straight out, than horizontal. Picky I know and if you can't do it, that's fine. Thought I'd go for perfection. :)

BionicRooster:

Apparently beggers can be choosers, and some people do look gift horses in the mouth.

Please don't let clods discourage you. Many of us who can't do modeling for ourselves are VERY greatful for your contributions. You are talented.

I really like the version with the angels. They sheilded the Mercy Seat, which represented the presence of God. The blood of the sacrifice was sprinkled on the Mercy Seat on the Day of atonement.

Seeing that the Arc of the Covenant was lost with the distruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians, no one knows what it looked like, so all recreations are the artists interpretation of discriptions.

lmk

Probably edited for spelling, grammer, punctuation, or typos.

Ok.... I guess I'll make ONE MORE version. Except this time, I'm gonna make it a Poser prop, and the book and cherubs will be smart props. The wings will have a morph for curved like they are now, and straight........

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and an electric fence PSU?

Quote - Thank you, Rooster. Is there a way the wings can be made so that they look less like a bird ready to pounce? :) If you see the Raider's Arc you'll see the wings are more vertical going straight out, than horizontal. Picky I know and if you can't do it, that's fine. Thought I'd go for perfection. :)

Raiders of the Lost Ark got it wrong though. If you've ever read the bible they're described in the manner that BR has displayed.

Yes, I admit to being a begger, lkendall, and of course BionicRooster can just tell me to 'bug off'. But I too very much appreciate his work. It is far from what I could do right now and so I am very grateful for him doing this.

As far as what the Arc looked like, I don't know either. I just like the Raider's of the Lost Arc version best of all I've seen. And, in my story, maybe the Arc isn't lost after all...

Well I made it into a Poser prop (don't know about the scaling tho)

This is about as straight out as I an gonna do.

The Arc loads plain, and then the book, and both versions of the cherubs are smart propped to it.

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Looks fantastic, Rooster! Excellent. Do you have a download link for it?

It's awaiting approval at the moment. So as soon as someone gets around to it, it'ss be available in the freebies.

Runtime format now, so should be easy enuf to use.

"Runtime....BionicRoosterArc of the Covenant"

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Is this one going to be version 3 or a replacement of version 2?

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it's versions 1, 2, and 3 all in one package now. Book and both angel versions are smart props.

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Yes, Michaelab, you merely import it by going to the File Menu... File > Import > Wavefrong OB... You set it up in a scene, check out the texture in the Material Room, adjust to your liking etc. and render out the whole scene.

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BR: your stuff is wonderful and there are all sorts of people here at Renderosity. All levels of expertise and unfortunately all levels of manners. Please don't let one rude, immature person discourage your wonderful gifts and creativity.

Boni

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Attached Link: Poser Ready Arc of the Covenant

Poser ready Arc now in the freebies.

Arc loads plain, then you choose the top ornament (Book or one of 2 Angel versions)

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You know something??? Thank you!!!

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You're quite welcome!

By the way, I'd like to see any images you guys come up with, of this, or any of my stuff really :o)

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Quote - By the way, I'd like to see any images you guys come up with, of this, or any of my stuff really :o)

Here is one I did in Bryce, using the Poser prop. Hope you like it. I re textured it in Bryce.

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Bionic Rooster,

Attached is a shot of the angels. How do I get them to be metallic gold rather than a dull yellow? What lighting do I have to have?

Quote - Bionic Rooster,

Attached is a shot of the angels. How do I get them to be metallic gold rather than a dull yellow? What lighting do I have to have?

Check in the Stickied thread on Materials right here in the forum.

Quote - How do I get them to be metallic gold rather than a dull yellow? What lighting do I have to have?

it usually takes something to reflect, or a Sphere Map to make it look better, if that's what you are asking.

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What are your settings in the Mat Room?

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Mine or Michael's? My renders weren't done in Poser, they were done in Octane, and even tho it is node based, it's still diferent to work with.

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No, not you BR... :lol: Michael. If he can post what his settings in the Mat room are, I could suggest a few no so helpful tips on getting the metallic mat that he wants.

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You mean like this?

This is a Gamma Correction node arrangement to create metallic gold as per Bagginsbill. The render was performed in PP2010 using 1 infinite light, BB's envsphere and IDL. As BR replied, you need something to reflect in your scene; in my case, just the sphere is enough. If you are not using PP2010 or PP, and still want to Gc the MAT, you will need to change the Add Math_Function on the lower right to 2.2.

Quote - Mine or Michael's? My renders weren't done in Poser, they were done in Octane, and even tho it is node based, it's still diferent to work with.

BTW where does one find Octane and is it free?

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http://www.refractivesoftware.com/

So how does one go about using it with Poser? Is there a plug in or a exporter for the renderer?

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According to the website, there are no Poser plugins available, just the following apps:

Autodesk 3D Studio Max

Autodesk Maya

Autodesk Softimage XSI

Blender

Maxon Cinema 4D

Sketchup

Modo

Remember, BR modeled the Arc in whatever modelling program he used, then exported to Octane for final rendering. Or if the plugin does not exist, it can still use Wavefront OBJ formats.

Hmmm, last post for the night... Okay, will check it out tomorrow. Not sure how but will try tomorrow to read TFM for Octane.

Good night, all!

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Quote - So how does one go about using it with Poser? Is there a plug in or a exporter for the renderer?

To render in Octane, you first must export the entire scene as an OBJ, then you can import that into Octane and assign your materials there.

And no, it's not free. It does have a Demo that is NOT time limited, only locked resolution, and image export is disabled. But you can always take a screenshot and paste it into Photoshop or something to crop out your rendered image.

Edit: The plug-ins for Octane from other software is for animation. If a program can exports to OBJ, then you can use Octane to render stills.

Just remember, Octane requires an Nvidia card, as it's fully GPU rendering. I have dual 9800 GT's so it's fairly fast for most renders. All the ones I did of the Arc were under 5 minutes, usually around 3 to 3 and a half tho.

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So I'll have to export the whole scene as obj, then use Octane to render, eh? Like to see how that works out with the Ark... including the EnviroSphere.... BRB

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Yes, hborre. That's what I'm looking for. However... the Arc sits in a basement where it is dark and mysterious. However, there is a light source: a single light bulb. I know that cuts down the reflective metallic gold look, but still, we should get more or a metallic and sparkle look, shouldn't we?

Material settings attached.

Thank youl

Downloaded it and worked with it a bit... Reminds me of Blender interface .... EEEeeewwww! Sorry BR, not for me... I like simple... not complicated... Of course after a more hours of playing with it, I'll be saying, Yeah, I like it...

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You sholdn't need to export the EnviroSphere, Octane doesn't require it. The "plain" renders of the Arc I did, was the Arc only, nothing else was exported.

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Oh ok... Thanks then. I was thinking of exporting the whole scene including the curtains... Still too complicated, tho, for me. Thanks anyway.

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@Michaelab: I don't know which Poser version you are currently using, and light setup may become complicated if IDL is not an option. The best solution I can come up with is including a low intensity IBL to brighten up the room, although IBL works best with exterior scenes. Let me know which Poser version you are rendering in and I'll try to come up with some useful lighting.

Here's my node setup... Notice I have for the background in the reflect node the environment sphere map, I think... I just use the same image for BB's environsphere. There's no right or wrong way... Pls note: I'm using Pro 2010 and my units are inches.

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The prior post is just for the gold oranament and angels. for the patterened or engraved, just sub the bump maps included for the granite node. I used just 3 lights, Rim, IBL, Main.

Had one spotlight shining upward in the middle of the angels very low level.

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ThunderStone's method is a good way to fake reflective surfaces under most older Poser versions. However, by taking advantage of PP2010 IDL capabilities with true reflective surfaces, you can render more realistic surroundings if you chose different camera angles and settings.

Michaelab:

The Ark of the Covenant was a wooden box covered with pure gold. One would expect the Ark to be gold in color and highly reflective. The shader in your above link is for the wooden poles, which were not covered in gold. hborre offers a complex gold shader on page 2 of this thread with procedural gamma correction. BagginsBill has offered a relatively simple gold shader at this link.

If you want the Ark to be mystical and you have Poser 8 (your Posersurface or root node looks like Poser 8), you could put a color and value on the ambient channels to make it give off its own soft light. One of the reasons that the Ark was covered with gold was to make it bright. The brightness represented the Shekinah (glory or bright light) of God. I have seen renders/pictures of the Ark with a flame or other light effect (as here and here) between the two angles to represent the presence of God.

Incidentaly, the wings of the angles were ment to shield people from accidentally seeing the Shekinah of God, which was too powerful for mortals to endure.

The Ark contained the Tablets of Stone (here) upon which the Ten Commandments were written, the rod of Aaron and a jar of manna.

lmk

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Thank you ThunderStone and hborre.

I have Poser 8 so don't know if following Thunder's settings was needed, but I did and got the attached results. Still not quite there. For Thunder's settings I used 'add' instead of 'subtract' in the Math Functions node. If I used 'add' it turns it a deep orangish gold. Also, for her image, don't know what that was. However, no matter what image I used I got these wavy lines which I'll post my mat settings so you can see.

Thanks for the help fellow Posers. Really appreciate it.

For the wavy lines, you will need to lower the bump input. You shouldn't use Wood as a sphere map background. Wood is not a reflective environ. :lol: What units are you using? Inches? cm? Mine was done in inches as I had mentioned earlier. Use an HDR image in the image map node that plug into the sphere map.

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Hey BR, I used it! Looks great in an alien temple with FemaSu and no swords....

So THAT'S where the Arc went.... Aliens stole it! lol

Cool image :o)

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Well what do ya know! I turned on USA and Raiders of the Lost Ark is on! Saweet!

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Have you been able to take a good look at the Ark as it is shown on there?

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No, he hasn't found it yet.

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Quote - Have you been able to take a good look at the Ark as it is shown on there?

There is some awesome info on building one here http://www.therpf.com/f9/finishing-1-1-ark-covenant-81600/

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Subject: Looking for an Arc of the Covenant prop - anyone know of one?