geep opened this issue on Jun 26, 2011 · 28 posts
geep posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 9:29 PM
.... but I know there's a code expert out there somewhere.
I need html code to make Firefox display *.wmv files ... (that will work!)
Can U ... HELP !!! ............... Please ...
There may be a reward for the person who helps me solve this problem.
cheers,
dr geep
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Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
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markschum posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 10:12 PM
you want it to play in the page ?
try Here
Believable3D posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 10:39 PM
Dr Geep, are you trying to do this for your own purpose, or for the benefit of visitors to your web site? 'Cause if the latter, you're at the mercy of whoever has something that will actually play wmv files in the browser, and that's a minority. It would be better to convert to something that has a higher percentage of in-browser support, e.g. mp3 if it's a straight audio file.
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geep posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 10:39 PM
Hi marks,
Will check it out, thanks.
cheers,
dg
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cheers,
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geep posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 10:42 PM
Hi 3D,
I need to be able to display video (with audio) ... not just audio.
Audio by itself works ok, no problem.
Thank 4 your reply.
cheers,
dg
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Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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Believable3D posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 10:55 PM
Okay, no I wouldn't rely on something that would serve up wmv only. Most users won't have it set up in their browsers. I'll try to dig up some code I discovered on the web a while back.
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geep posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 11:01 PM
Thank you.
Recommended player(s) ??????
Recommended video file types ????? (I have a video converter)
cheers,
dg <------------------------------ gettin' lazy about sigin' full name, ha ha :lol:
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Believable3D posted Sun, 26 June 2011 at 11:02 PM
Check this out: http://camendesign.com/code/video_for_everybody
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geep posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 4:17 AM
tried that ....... color me stupid ......... could not get it to work
Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
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Snarlygribbly posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 5:31 AM
I have used FLV Player successfully many times in my own projects.
Free stuff @ https://poser.cobrablade.net/
geep posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 6:11 AM
I'll take a look at it.
Thanks Snarly.
cheers,
dg
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Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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Miss Nancy posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 11:47 AM
geep, the following code works in firefox:
give it a try in yer page. it may also work in this forum, but they'd keelhaul me if I said how to do it, as users tend to freak out when this happens. just substitute yer swf file, path/location and size in the above fields. the above code may appear somewhat redundant.
geep posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 12:33 PM
Thanks Nance,
Veddy interesting .......... Hmmm ... works in Firefox but not in IE ..... Huh, huh, huh?????
AND ............ I need to "publish" a .wmv .... ultimately.
Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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nruddock posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 1:25 PM
So long as you provide a link so that the file can be downloaded and viewed locally, I wouldn't worry to much about having it play in the browser, as there are always going to be some people it isn't going to work for (intentionally or otherwise).
geep posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 1:29 PM
Quote - So long as you provide a link so that the file can be downloaded and viewed locally, I wouldn't worry to much about having it play in the browser.
True but ........................ not quite as user (i.e., viewer) friendly, no? :huh:
My real "question" is .......
It (.wmv) works in:
Trellian Web Page (software) Preview mode
IE
Opera
BUT ........... NOT in Firefox !!!!!!! .............. WHY ???????????????????
Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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Miss Nancy posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 2:29 PM
oops! flash was the html 4 standard (h264 is the html 5 standard). I dunno if wmv was a web standard. I haven't got IE, but there may be a way to ask users to install an FF plug-in to view embedded wmv. content type=wmv doesn't appear in the FF applications pref (OS X).
nruddock posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 3:17 PM
Quote - BUT ........... NOT in Firefox !!!!!!! .............. WHY ???????????????????
I'm pretty certain that it's something like Firefox doesn't (by design) use the required ActiveX control.
Alternative handlers (e.g. VLC) do work if they are installed and both FF and the player are configured correctly. The bottom line is that there is no HTML solution that will always work in FF due to either user choice or other factors.
Acadia posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 5:26 PM
I use Camtasia Studio 4 to make my video tutorials. It has video and the ability to do audio with it. The files save as .wmv.
All I do is upload it to my website. Provide a link with some code that will play the video in its own pop up window in the size that I want it, which is usually 800 x 800 pixels. When the person clicks the link, the video pops up and plays.
What I do seems to work the same in IE and FF.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
geep posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 6:36 PM
Quote - I use Camtasia Studio 4 to make my video tutorials. It has video and the ability to do audio with it. The files save as .wmv.
All I do is upload it to my website. Provide a link with some code that will play the video in its own pop up window in the size that I want it, which is usually 800 x 800 pixels. When the person clicks the link, the video pops up and plays.
What I do seems to work the same in IE and FF.
Linda,
Thank you for your input. That sounds like what I would like to do.
Could you email me ...
geep@cableone.net
... with some more details, i.e., the code .................. please.
I would be most appreciative. :biggrin:
cheers,
dr geep
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Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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Acadia posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 10:35 PM
Quote - Could you email me ...
I wish I could email you the code. But I use FrontPage 2000 to generate my website code and an addon called "Spawn" by Jimco. It generates a unique code for each popup it creates.
Here is the link. I don't know what "Web Expressions" is, but the plugin works for Front Page, and it's so very easy to use.
http://www.jimcosoftware.com/Spawn/default.aspx
The guy who created it is very nice. When I first started using it, it wasn't geared towards frame pages and I was having trouble generating popups. I contacted him and he provided an updated fix for it within a day or two.
Here is a tutorial on how to do it using HTML code. I think I'll try it myself the next time I need to create one for my website.
http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/linking/linking_famsupp_70.html
http://www.quackit.com/html/codes/html_popup_window_code.cfm
Google search for other popup window tutorials
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Believable3D posted Mon, 27 June 2011 at 11:39 PM
What I'm trying to explain, Geep, is that whether it works for your users is completely dependent on what they've got their browsers set to do. And most non-IE browsers are highly unlikely to be set to play a wmv file in-browser by default. Only a relatively small percentage of users are likely to change that intentionally. So if you want most viewers to see your video in-browser, you will need to provide alternative formats.
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geep posted Tue, 28 June 2011 at 5:34 AM
Thanks everyone for all your input.
Here is the html code that works just fine, and it could not be simpler.
... Thanks Acadia. :wub: You're the winner
**IYI - FYI - the html code ***********************************
cheers,
dr geep <----------- a happy camper ---------- signing off ..... for now
;=]
P.S. to 3D ... This method should work for just about everyone.
i.e., no embeds, no special code
Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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Believable3D posted Tue, 28 June 2011 at 11:13 PM
Can you point to live examples where this supposedly works for everyone? (Pretending for the sake of argument that Mac users don't exist.) I'm still skeptical you can get a browser to do what it's set not to do in its preferences... The code above is simple HTML, so it's not bypassing anything like that.... So if it's truly universal, that's great information, but it makes little sense considering all the kerfuffle about how difficult it has been to provide universal video support, pre-HTML 5.
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geep posted Tue, 28 June 2011 at 11:30 PM
Quote - Can you point to live examples where this supposedly works for everyone? ....
Hi 3D,
No, sorry, I can not. :sad: ... Because ... The complexities of today's PCs (and their different OS's) combined with the complexities of the Internet combined with the variety of virus protection software that is available make this neigh impossible, no?! (rhet)
Howsome ever, having said that, I believe the simplicity of this standard html code will allow it to run as expected on 99% of those PCs whose owners do not explicity filter this code.
cheers,
dr geep
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P.S. I have tested this code on Firefox, IE, and Opera and it appears to work ok.
*"One should never say "never" and never say "always."
*-anon
Hmmm, ole anon just used the word "never" twice, no? :lol:*
Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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Believable3D posted Tue, 28 June 2011 at 11:50 PM
Geep, I have full confidence that the code works. I develop web sites (and by that, I mean coding by hand for almost all of the HTML and all the CSS) as extra income and I can see by looking at it that it is functional code.
What I am less optimistic about is the "nearly universal" ability for this to work in browser. People have been stumped for years for just such a video solution (and Flash, flawed as it is/was, was the closest we got); and it's only now with HTML 5 that there is promise for that difficulty to disappear (but obviously it will take some time for everyone to have browsers that support HTML5).
User testing is a good idea. Try a page and ask people to check it and see what your results are. Maybe I'm being pessimistic. I suspect you'll end having to do some additional work to get things working for the widest possible audience. At the very least, a regular link to the same file (sans the target="blank" etc) with some text there asking people to right click and download if the video doesn't open in their browser. An alternative format for non-Windows users wouldn't be a bad idea either.
I hope you won't need that, but again, I'd be very surprised if you don't....
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geep posted Thu, 30 June 2011 at 8:26 AM
Hi 3D,
This simple code works just fine for me and ...
Clicking on a graphic:
using Firefox - ... downloads a short (~3 min) video file
using IE - ... opens and plays the video in a new window
using Opera - .... plays the video in a new window
This will satisfy 99+% of the viewers for this specialized information.
(in addition, there is an email and phone number on the web site, also)
These videos are supplemental and the basic information on the web site is available with additionl text, graphics, links, etc.
Your point(s) is (are) well taken and I appreciate your input, especially considering your expertise in the area.
cheers,
dr geep <---------------- not an expert web site developer but having fun doing it
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Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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Believable3D posted Thu, 30 June 2011 at 7:10 PM
Aha! Firefox downloads the file. That's exactly what I expected. But my understanding was that you required something that played in the browser. So yeah, if that satisfies, definitely. Glad you got the solution you were after.
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geep posted Thu, 30 June 2011 at 7:33 PM
Correct ... Firefox does not permit ActiveX which is why the Windows Media Player will not play inside the web page. However, I keep the vids short (~3 min) so the download time is, I believe, acceptable, e.g., < 1 min ... Unless the viewer is using a 300 baud modem on a voice line. :cursing: Then, well, what can I say. :lol:
I have since installed the Chrome browser and the code works just fine using it, also.
There is a test in progress from 2 viewers using Macs but I have not heard back from them yet.
I'll post the results here after I get the feedback ... just for da heck of it.
P.S. for 3D ... NOT "required" but .......... was the desired goal, heh, heh. :biggrin:
Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"
cheers,
dr geep ... :o]
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