FaeMoon opened this issue on Jul 04, 2011 · 200 posts
FaeMoon posted Mon, 04 July 2011 at 11:03 AM
I'm not loving it. I hate it. It's very, very distracting to have all this saturated blue next to the art. I see blue on the sides .. not the artwork. Please make it something more neutral in color. What was wrong with the old colors?
Delaney
CarolSassy posted Mon, 04 July 2011 at 12:45 PM
I just saw it, and I hate to say it, but I'm not lovin' it either.
Carol aka
Sassy
If you can't stand the
heat,
Don't tickle the dragon!
SAMS3D posted Mon, 04 July 2011 at 3:08 PM
hmmm, who chose this color?
Savage_dragon posted Mon, 04 July 2011 at 4:22 PM
I hate the new beta, too. It looks like a cheap site. Hate the colors & well, pretty much everything. Not to mention it really hurts my eyes.
I'm Getting old.
My wings are cold.
I think I'll go sit on the sun.
Savage Dragon
"Chronicles of the Dragon Queen"
Notilize posted Mon, 04 July 2011 at 5:39 PM
The color really really needs to be changed.
renecyberdoc posted Tue, 05 July 2011 at 12:13 AM
well i am using it to me it looks ok but all my visitors are complaing,getting error messages when faving an image of mine and things like that.
still a lot to do.a dnyes the one should be able to change the color of the site like digitaldownunder and dreamslayerartworkd has, in something called mood change, change your mood and the colors change .bla..bla..
IO4 posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:40 AM
I do like the blue colour, as a colour, and on the front page, but it definately does not work for the galleries - gallery backgrounds should always be neutral colours so that it is not distracting and conflicting with whatever images are there. I thought that was just common sense:)
I think the front page layout looks nice, but it looks too generic - like thousands of other websites out there. As this is an art community and store it would be nice to have a design which plays on that somehow (e.g. DAZ 3d used to have semi transparent images to the background of their pages - it looked really good). I understand about web design, keeping the layout user friendly and accessible etc. , and to some degree that determines the structure of the pages, but it doesn't mean you can have some individuality in terms of overall look.
Does anyone know where we post bugs if we find any?
kathym posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:11 AM
i dont like the new layout either - is there an option to go back to the old one?
Just enjoying the Vue.
:0)
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:13 AM
No there isn't.. Give yourself some time to get used to it:) I absolutely love it the more I see it!!
kathym posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:14 AM
Quote - No there isn't.. Give yourself some time to get used to it:) I absolutely love it the more I see it!!
Its hurts my eyes Stacey :(
Just enjoying the Vue.
:0)
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:19 AM
Reading the forums you mean or exactly which part are you having so much trouble with?
Notilize posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:30 AM
Hi,
Stacey. Are you guys seriously going to stay with this color? It looks so cheap!!! If I didn't know what renderosity was, I wouldn't shop here. I'm not trying to hurt feelings, I respect you guys. But I really can't stand this look.
CarolSassy posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:31 AM
Oh, there is one other thing that bugs me. When you click on an image to see it, those stupid floating ads on the right hand side cover the right hand side of the image. That means you are practically required to click on the image that makes it full size, even when it is already full size without doing that. Do you know what I mean? lol If you do, you've known me too long.(snicker)
Carol aka
Sassy
If you can't stand the
heat,
Don't tickle the dragon!
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:32 AM
Carol can you send me a screen shot of what you are seeing?
Thanks:)
CarolSassy posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:32 AM
Okay, hang on a second or two.
Carol aka
Sassy
If you can't stand the
heat,
Don't tickle the dragon!
CarolSassy posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:37 AM
My settings are 1024x768 on my screen, so I should be able to see this whole image, but the ads are in the way.
Carol aka
Sassy
If you can't stand the
heat,
Don't tickle the dragon!
kathym posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:44 AM
Quote - Reading the forums you mean or exactly which part are you having so much trouble with?
the bright offensive blue that surrounds everything.
Just enjoying the Vue.
:0)
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:50 AM
Okay Carol, I'm checking on this
Savage_dragon posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:55 AM
Yeah, the blue hurts my eyes. & Yes I think it looks cheap. But I've already said that. I really, really don't like it & taking time to 'get used to it' is not going to change that.
I've spent long hours every day over the last 9 years here. Not to mention a paid sub. This layout will cut that real quick.
I'm Getting old.
My wings are cold.
I think I'll go sit on the sun.
Savage Dragon
"Chronicles of the Dragon Queen"
goldie posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:09 AM
i too am not a big fan of the new site, especially the BLUE :)
for those of you who share my opinion regarding the site's palette and use Firefox, there is a little add-on you can use to change the colors. It is called "Color that Site," and it really does work nicely. currently, i have changed Rosity's background site colors to lovely DEEP blues.
i also preferred the rounded corners used on the rectangular elements in the old site. now everything is a boring 90-degrees angle. the old site had a distinctive look to it. now it looks very mundane...for a site that deals with "art" there is little that is artistic with the new site.
Savage_dragon posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:11 AM
Quote - i too am not a big fan of the new site, especially the BLUE :)
for those of you who share my opinion regarding the site's palette and use Firefox, there is a little add-on you can use to change the colors. It is called "Color that Site," and it really does work nicely. currently, i have changed Rosity's background site colors to lovely DEEP blues.
i also preferred the rounded corners used on the rectangular elements in the old site. now everything is a boring 90-degrees angle. the old site had a distinctive look to it. now it looks very mundane...for a site that deals with "art" there is little that is artistic with the new site.
Exactly!
I'm Getting old.
My wings are cold.
I think I'll go sit on the sun.
Savage Dragon
"Chronicles of the Dragon Queen"
iloco posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:12 AM
Why not give us the option to have the old color scheme.
I have 2 different colors on my forum for visitors to choose from. A light one and a dark one. Most pick the darker one.....
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musicat posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:21 AM
This light color scheme will hurt older folks like me. I can barely read the whitish against the blue. Please fix this so we can at least do a color contrast & read stuff. You will have lots of the older folks leaving.
kathym posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:28 AM
The Color the Site works wonders!
Just enjoying the Vue.
:0)
Notilize posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:32 AM
Quote - This light color scheme will hurt older folks like me. I can barely read the whitish against the blue. Please fix this so we can at least do a color contrast & read stuff. You will have lots of the older folks leaving.
I agree. I've been on the new site a bit today and my eyes are starting to bug me now. I think its the lighter blue over the dark blue.
goldie posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:33 AM
Quote - The Color the Site works wonders!
it really is a terrific little tool. i use it for "that other site" and have changed their way too bright site into one that has a deep teal background with soft aqua text.
so as i mentioned above, if you use Firefox, give this little add-on a try.
Shiroyama posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 10:55 AM
well, i'm not liking it at all, either (and i don't use firefox, so no easy colour change, sadly!).
it's a terrible blue, it overpowers the gallery thumbnails. and the front page looks --- well, flat and cluttered at the same time! i'm not sure how to explain it.... it feels kind of generic. yes, if i force myself to keep coming here, i may "get used to it" -- but i don't think i will ever like it.
oh well. between this and daz's new site change, i've certainly got more money staying in my pocket lately....
MSTene posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 11:39 AM
Have to agree the Blue is making my eyes cross, and scrolling thru things is really awful.
At least give us an option to customize/change colors?
hewee posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 11:40 AM
I had it to show gallery images full size. But now the images have the ads over top of them on the right side.
Now you can click the image to open in a new window and that shows the image only but the new window opens to a set size and for bigger images you again have to maximize the window. Then scroll only if it's bigger then your screen setting and monitor.
I have a 22" widescreen set at 1280x768.
OK images open up to a set size but not wider then the top menu
-renapd- posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:15 PM Site Admin
Unfortunately it hurts badly my eyes too Stacey! :( :(
Turquoise is my favorite color as all shades of blue.. but unfortunately looks that they don't work at all for an art site! It's not at all neutral and looks awful in contrast with product thumbs and gallery art images unless their color scheme is white or green! :(
Rena
-renapd- posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:17 PM Site Admin
One more comment... the site used to fill up my browser window.. now there are blue WIDE empty borders in both sides of the screen.. :(
Laylah posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:28 PM
Uhh yeah this colors actually give me a headache reading the lighter blue with white text is absolutely horrendous it will significantly impact the time I spend here. it looks like a cheap wordpress layout...
Khai-J-Bach posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:31 PM
now I've over-ridden the blue to a nice grey / black and white colour scheme, it's nice.
WildDesigns posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:44 PM
Hate it! I'll have to start using Firefox so I can change these awful colors.
Angelsfury2004 posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:45 PM
I think the reason it is hurting people's eyes is because the galleries still have the old blue, and the two colors seem to "fight" on another, if that makes sense. Also I want to point out that it was difficult for me to post here. I had to try several times clicking the box to get the curser in there. same with Sitemail... had to click in the box a few times...
-renapd- posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:45 PM Site Admin
Kaibach.. none argues about the design.. change is welcome, just the colors! Something neutral like the old good familiar ones for those of us we use Internet Explorer! :(
Notilize posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 12:48 PM
Quote - Kaibach.. none argues about the design.. change is welcome, just the colors! Something neutral like the old good familiar ones for those of us we use Internet Explorer! :(
I agree. The only thing that needs to be changed is the color. Please!
Khai-J-Bach posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:03 PM
Attached Link: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/color-that-site/
can't help with IE.. but on Firefox, I'm using the link (thanks to a great friend that!)RHaseltine posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:18 PM
Because of the way the site is done, previously visited links are not getting their colour changed as they would in straight HTML. That means you can't pick out threads that you were interested in (or at least that have been visited before) as readily.
BenBischop posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:18 PM
how do you get the old settings back, there must be an option?? this is not beautiful...
FrankT posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:22 PM
I actually rather like the new colours - guess I must be the only one (or more likely the people who actually like the new site design aren't posting to say that)
SAMS3D posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:30 PM
at least it does not giggle anymore.
SAMS3D posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:30 PM
Or maybe it still does, I think I just saw it when I posted above.
Hawkfyr posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:33 PM
My Local Wal-Mart recently painted the outside of the store Tan…And just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse…they changed the color of the floor tile and laid that cheap laminate simulated wood floor in the baby department…
I guess some other store is going to get my money from now on…unless they change it back to something more to my liking that is…
8 )
Tom
“The fact that no one understands you…Doesn’t make you an artist.”
aksirp posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:33 PM
kgb224 posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:36 PM
The blue color is a bit hard on the eye.
I also have the same problem with the advirtesmant on the picture.
I also cannt see the picture fully.
auntietk posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:37 PM
Ahhh ... we'll get used to it.
Well, that's a relief!
Hope it happens soon ...
"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough." ... Robert Capa
jayfar posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:38 PM
I am getting the same as carolsassy and am thinking of pulling out altogether. this has been reported and Kristi is aware but nothing appears to be happening. Can we revert to the start of June?
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:47 PM
Jayfar this is fixed for you
FutureFantasyDesign posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:49 PM
I vote no.
It looks cheap and very basic "Go Daddy" template-like.
What a mess.....
~A~
Is there water in your future or is
it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate
weapon...
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jayfar posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:53 PM
At last, thankyou Stacey and my goodness that was quick.
MrsRatbag posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 1:53 PM
When I first saw this change I thought "Oh no, someone has hacked in and infected the site with bugs." The colours are jarring for an art site, not at all a good background, and the coding/layout is amateurish and harsh. Can you tell I hate it? My time here has already been greatly reduced due to other factors, this might well be the end of it for me.
Savage_dragon posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 2:11 PM
I got the Firefox add on. You can keep the site cheap looking now if you like.
At least I won't be going blind from glaring colors.
Only problem is it seems to really slow down the loading of the pages on my satellite connection. I guess I'll just have to 'get used to' that one.
Yes, I AM grumpy. My eyes are still hurting.
I'm Getting old.
My wings are cold.
I think I'll go sit on the sun.
Savage Dragon
"Chronicles of the Dragon Queen"
Faerydae posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 2:12 PM
Have to agree with everyone else...the colors are horrid, and the layout looks very unprofessional to me, especially compared to the way it was. I'm not that old as others have mentioned lol, but the colors are even hurting my eyes and giving me a headache. There is no getting used to this change for me.
I'll never understand why people/businesses insist on "fixing" something that wasn't broken to begin with.
Afrodite-Ohki posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:06 PM
I'm very sorry for the design team who made this happen, but my thoughts on the new layout:
-This blue hurts. Been said, yes, but I want to press on the matter, my eyes are in pain and I've only been here for 15 minutes. I doubt I'd ever be able to spend hours browsing Rosity as I'm used to now.
-This blue actually competes with other colors. Optical illusion: skin tones in the galleries and store look too saturated, for instance. Things just look off. This is an art website, layout NEEDS to be mostly black, white or gray (and I really truly prefer black because it's the color that goes easiest to the eye).
-Menu with the gradient looks too amateur, like it was done on Microsoft Front Page. It doesn't look like a professional site where I'd spend my money at all...
-Our store banners are only waaaay back down now, which gives us less exposure. Not many people will scroll to the very bottom of the page every time.
-Way too many bad-placed gradients with two very saturated tones of blue.
-"Welcome to the Renderosity Forums" in goldish yellow? Yellow stars, yellow icons, yellow text on blue just do not work. But please, those yellow things are great, please please get rid of the blue and give us our black back!
-I feel that search bars look much better aligned to the right, instead of centered as it is. In the same place, I feel that those "Connect" buttons are something a user would use just a few times, so it shouldn't deserve such a grand place at the very top of the pages.
Now I could get a firefox addon to change everything, but most of my customers would still be seing things off-color and cheap-looking, and I really can't afford losing any more sales, seing as I'm already only making a couple of sales a week, sorry to say that.
Sorry if I sound rude, but my eyes really really hurt.
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yoyodyne5 posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:23 PM
Quote - No there isn't.. Give yourself some time to get used to it:) I absolutely love it the more I see it!!
Who decided on the color change? My eyes hurt. Owww.
What is with this "get used to it," attitude? Renderosity can do no wrong? If enough people complain... Remember when Gap decided to change their logo? What a fiasco that was.
Illusionator posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:36 PM
Why the change?
Its awful.
toastie posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:40 PM
Ugh! This blue is painful... think I'll only be visiting the site wearing shades from now on. Horrible change.
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:43 PM
""Welcome to the Renderosity Forums" in goldish yellow? Yellow stars, yellow icons, yellow text on blue just do not work. But please, those yellow things are great, please please get rid of the blue and give us our black back!"
We will be changing out the goldish yellow to something that goes with the new site colors
Notilize posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:44 PM
Quote - > Quote - No there isn't.. Give yourself some time to get used to it:) I absolutely love it the more I see it!!
Who decided on the color change? My eyes hurt. Owww.
What is with this "get used to it," attitude? Renderosity can do no wrong? If enough people complain... Remember when Gap decided to change their logo? What a fiasco that was.
I agree with you my friend.
WildDesigns posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:51 PM
Stacy, why are the powers that be refusing to address the color issue. These colors are hurtful to my eyes, and I do not have an eye problem. You . . . WE . . . are going to lose customers b/c it is just too painful to view this site!!
Khai-J-Bach posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:53 PM
Quote - ""Welcome to the Renderosity Forums" in goldish yellow? Yellow stars, yellow icons, yellow text on blue just do not work. But please, those yellow things are great, please please get rid of the blue and give us our black back!"
We will be changing out the goldish yellow to something that goes with the new site colors
Radioactive Green with Puce Lepoard spots on a neon pink bar......
LaurieA posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 4:57 PM
I'd rather have had orange and purple...lol (ick) ;)
Laurie
Notilize posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 5:06 PM
Quote - Stacy, why are the powers that be refusing to address the color issue. These colors are hurtful to my eyes, and I do not have an eye problem. You . . . WE . . . are going to lose customers b/c it is just too painful to view this site!!
I do find it funny the color blue is not being address, even though everyone is saying it's cheap looking, awful, and hurts our eyes.
Unicornst posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 5:28 PM
Quote - (or more likely the people who actually like the new site design aren't posting to say that)
Or they are the same ones who post the "Ohhh, pretty" comments on less than mediocre artwork.
Don't really hang out here anymore, so my opinion is worth less than 2 cents, but damn this is ugly. Very amateurish. Will someone who has my email notify me if they ever change this crap? I only ask cause now I won't even pop in once in a blue moon to look at artwork unless it does get changed. Images coming up small enough to fit on one of those old, old monitors with no option to change it...ugly colors that hurt the eyes when trying to read threads...yep...amateurs. Be nice if for once Rendo listened to the ones who pay the bills instead of doing as they please, but I know that won't ever happen.
nruddock posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 5:38 PM
Quote - I do find it funny the color blue is not being address, even though everyone is saying it's cheap looking, awful, and hurts our eyes.
PL-Finland posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 5:38 PM
What a mess, This looks terrible.
Only positive thing I can say is "a blind person would love too see it"
Afrodite-Ohki posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:05 PM
Quote - ""Welcome to the Renderosity Forums" in goldish yellow? Yellow stars, yellow icons, yellow text on blue just do not work. But please, those yellow things are great, please please get rid of the blue and give us our black back!"
We will be changing out the goldish yellow to something that goes with the new site colors
But please, those yellow things are great, please please get rid of the blue and give us our black back!
But please, those yellow things are great, please please get rid of the blue and give us our black back!
But please, those yellow things are great, please please get rid of the blue and give us our black back!
PLEASE. I can't stress this enough. The blue NEEDS to go. The black was great.
The whole thing looks like something I'd do for a fan game site when I was 14. And that was some 12 years ago, when monitors wouldn't go high resolutions, there were 256 colors we could use safely to create websites (all horribly saturated), and on top of it all I was a teen and an amateur.
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Feel free to call me Ohki!
Poser Pro 11, Poser 12 and Poser 13, Windows 10, Superfly junkie. My units are milimeters.
Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.
jeditojan posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:08 PM
I think the blue is over powering the pictures not to mention my eyes! I liked the previous color and layout.
rebelmommy posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:30 PM
Just in case you missed it Rendo.. the majority of your forum members, customers and everyone else.. HATES THE BLUE!!!! Seriously I hate to nag about it but it is extremly harsh on the eyes. When you have numerous members complaining of the headaches it gives them you need to take notice.
I like blue.. hell I even like this electric shade of blue and all the other blue tones you have going on.. I like it on cars, on paper, in clothes and shoes, even in art and pictures.. HOWEVER I really hate it here. Not because I don't like the colors (as I said I do) BUT THEY HURT MY EYES!! I can read literally maybe 2 or 3 posts and then I have to close Renderosity because I start to feel nauseous and get one of the most obnoxious headaches. I hate thinking that I will be coming here less, I don't post much in these forums but I do browse them many times a day. I hate even more to think that customers (and potential customers) will avoid this site because it actually causes them pain.
I have very light colored eyes, and have a high sensitivity to light, I wear sunglasses on overcast days simply because the sky is still to bright most of the time, so this site is very hard for me to spend more then 5 minutes on at most. PLEASE PLEASE listen to us and change the colors. At this point I would settle for a muted purple with orange stripes and green polka dots.. anything but this blue!
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LaurieA posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:38 PM
Between the new CSS in the CSS forum and Color That Site! addon for Firefox, you can get this...
Laurie
rebelmommy posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:46 PM
Ohhh Thank you Laurie! I will definately be changing mine now. I think though the point should be made that Renderosity's members and visitors should not be expected to "find a fix" themselves. The very fact that a fix is needed speaks volumes.. I would add what I think it speaks about but my mom always told me if I didn't have anything nice to say to keep my mouth shut.. soo
Renderosity's "problem Child"
Support Hydrocephalus research.. because a Shunt is NOT a cure!
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:51 PM
Let me just be honest with you all and hopefully you will respect that I am being straight with you
We understand as with any change that some people love it instantly, some people it takes a minute and some people never warm to it. While we hear what some of you are saying, we want to give it a minute to get feedback from as many members as possible. It doesn't mean it we won't do some tweaking, it doesn't mean we will. We just don't know yet as we want to let it sit like this for a minute to gather as much information as we can.
We have had positive feeback as well in the FP article, in some other forum posts, sitemail, email, even phone calls so please understand that we just launched the live site today and some people are seeing it for the first time so let's give it some time.
We appreciate and value your feedback and opinions so we want to hear your thoughts but please be patient while we gather information.
Thanks
Stacey
LaurieA posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:54 PM
Quote - Ohhh Thank you Laurie! I will definately be changing mine now. I think though the point should be made that Renderosity's members and visitors should not be expected to "find a fix" themselves. The very fact that a fix is needed speaks volumes.. I would add what I think it speaks about but my mom always told me if I didn't have anything nice to say to keep my mouth shut.. soo
LOL...ur welcome rebelmommy. Someone was nice enough to walk me thru the CSS stuff cause I'd never used it and the addon is pretty straight forward. I'm worried that other folks may shy away from the site. The bright blue hurt my eyes really bad ;).
Laurie
WildDesigns posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:55 PM
I give up.
Khai-J-Bach posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 6:55 PM
Attached Link: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6048/5913834026_98f64c0097_b.jpg
I'll stick to my local over-ride... (a mix of Firefox Plugins and CSS from the CSS forum)Faerydae posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 7:12 PM
Quote - Ohhh Thank you Laurie! I will definately be changing mine now. I think though the point should be made that Renderosity's members and visitors should not be expected to "find a fix" themselves. The very fact that a fix is needed speaks volumes.. I would add what I think it speaks about but my mom always told me if I didn't have anything nice to say to keep my mouth shut.. soo
Exactly. If I have to come here and and fix everything before it's even remotely usable, I'll just go spend my time and money elsewhere.
I am no coding expert or anything, but I don't see why it would be such a big deal to have a dropdown with multiple color schemes and then everyone would be happy. I can deal with the layout if I have to, but I will not get used to the migraines from the colors, nor do I want to.
rebelmommy posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 7:19 PM
Quote - Let me just be honest with you all and hopefully you will respect that I am being straight with you
We understand as with any change that some people love it instantly, some people it takes a minute and some people never warm to it. While we hear what some of you are saying, we want to give it a minute to get feedback from as many members as possible. It doesn't mean it we won't do some tweaking, it doesn't mean we will. We just don't know yet as we want to let it sit like this for a minute to gather as much information as we can.
We have had positive feeback as well in the FP article, in some other forum posts, sitemail, email, even phone calls so please understand that we just launched the live site today and some people are seeing it for the first time so let's give it some time.
We appreciate and value your feedback and opinions so we want to hear your thoughts but please be patient while we gather information.
Thanks
Stacey
Stacey, I do appreciate that you are being straight with us.. and I know it is probably a real pain in the rear end to listen to us all whine, I just think our whole point was that (at least in this post anyway) the majority of people are saying that the new site is causing issues for them, and we did not feel that you were even listening. I am willing to give it chance and wait and see now that you have told us that you have heard us but are waiting for a larger pool of feedback (and now that I know I can change it via firefox and CSS).
I am glad to know that you have heard us, and I am glad that you have had positive feedback to the new site, I for one love the whole new setup with the exception of the color shades used. So, as I said, now that I know that Renderosity has heard us and is willing to weigh that, I am willing to wait and see. I will change my view via the css and firefox and await what the majority says. I think we all just felt that Rendo was poo-poo-ing (for lack of a better phrase) us with a "you'll get used to it" attitude and my main frustration was with that.
Thanks for listening (I know you are wishing it was Friday already..LOL) and for at least letting us know that we are being heard!
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Support Hydrocephalus research.. because a Shunt is NOT a cure!
StaceyG posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 8:10 PM
Thank you Amy, your post and understanding means a lot:)
Savage_dragon posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 8:26 PM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - No there isn't.. Give yourself some time to get used to it:) I absolutely love it the more I see it!!
Who decided on the color change? My eyes hurt. Owww.
What is with this attitude? Renderosity can do no wrong? If enough people complain... Remember when Gap decided to change their logo? What a fiasco that was.
I agree with you my friend.
"get used to it"...
Feels like I've been insulted.
I'm Getting old.
My wings are cold.
I think I'll go sit on the sun.
Savage Dragon
"Chronicles of the Dragon Queen"
wimvdb posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:14 PM
Add my vote against the new color scheme.
It is extremely annoying and makes reading the site more difficult.
Changing the site with a CSS script is not an acceptable solution if a large proportion of users do not want it
I really do not understand why you want to force it onto your members
coldrake posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:33 PM
Here you go Laurie!
Coldrake
LaurieA posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:37 PM
Quote - > Quote - I'd rather have had orange and purple...lol (ick) ;)
Laurie
Here you go Laurie!
Coldrake
Um, I take that back...lmao.
Laurie
blinkings posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:43 PM
Unicornst said 'Or they are the same ones who post the "Ohhh, pretty" comments on less than mediocre artwork'. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder you know. I missed the thread when you were promoted to judge and jury here.
blinkings posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 9:44 PM
The blue is ok for the front page (if we HAVE to have it), but it is so wrong for the galleries. It clashes with people's work, which is so silly on a site on this. Who on earth decided to do it? Can we still easily see if there is a message in sitemail? Also hyperlinks look almost the same as regular text. The blue is my fave colour actually but please not behind my photos. ;) Tara mentioned that we will get used it. We shouldn't NEED to get used to it.
Unicornst posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 11:05 PM
Quote - Unicornst said 'Or they are the same ones who post the "Ohhh, pretty" comments on less than mediocre artwork'. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder you know. I missed the thread when you were promoted to judge and jury here.
Take a joke.
Should I have put winking faces behind my statement? Sorry...pain in the arse to use emoticons in FF here. Hate all the copying and pasting I would have to do.
Main point is....The new look is not good for me and therefore, I won't even be doing the occasional browsing I used to do. sigh And once upon a time I couldn't let a day go by without coming here. Addiction over.
KageRyu posted Thu, 07 July 2011 at 11:50 PM
I really have to say I don't like it, not one bit. I think the site looks kinda cheap and chinsy now. As FutureFantasyDesign said it does look a lot like a cheap template style website - and a lot of websites seem to be going in this direction (I hate most of them for it). I thought the old site looked much nicer, cozier, comfier. The colors especially are quite horrid in the combination they are in, and I much prefer the muted, darker color backgrounds and gradiants of the old site. Prolonged exposure, contrary to popular belief, will not get me used to it, but instead will likely turn toxic and cause systemic shock. While I wont go as far as to say I wont shop here, it will reduce the amount of browsing of galleries, products, and content I do here overall. I am adding my two cents as it was mentioned that the site staff are still gathering feedback from the community and want to wait to see how the site is received, so I do want to make sure I am heard.
As it was mentioned that tweaks are still being done, I hope they will adress some of these issues. By all means, please, please, please either reset the backdrops and colors to something closer to what they were, or better yet, make the site skinable for users (many websites have done that these days).
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Savage_dragon posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 12:33 AM
As theKageRyu said about systemic shock, probably not far from the truth & one of the reasons I was so crabby. I have epilepsy & certain color combos, after even a small amount of exposure, can make me ill if not cause a seizure as in flashing lights.
And it literally did make me feel sick. For quite a while.
As you can see, its making many people a bit aggressive.
For me, its not just that I don't like the color combos, it could be detrimental to my health. And I'm wondering at this point what RO feels is more important.
I did change the colors with the Firefox app, however, some people are using the other colors & they load on my screen when they do.
I'm Getting old.
My wings are cold.
I think I'll go sit on the sun.
Savage Dragon
"Chronicles of the Dragon Queen"
musicat posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 12:38 AM
thank you laurieA. this site now works for me.
auntietk posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 2:31 AM
I'm not sure exactly what's happening on that end, but on my laptop, the color has changed again. (I'm not at home, so can't check how it looks on my big computer.) I opened RR yesterday and this morning, and the screaming blue was there. Closed it, came back in a couple-three hours, and the blue was darker but still not the gray-blue it used to be. Bill's (bmac62) computer is showing RR in the screaming blue. I just checked them side-by-side, and the color IS different. The gray-blue of the comments and forum text boxes is the same, so please don't assume our laptop screens are calibrated differently. It was the first thing I checked. It's just weird. PLEASE don't try to get me the neon blue back!!
As long as you're looking for serious feedback now, I'll give you my serious opinion.
I don't like change for the sake of change, and I don't think there was anything wrong with the site the way it was. I dislike the new look, format-wise. I agree with those who have said it looks cheap and amateurish. THAT, I can probably get used to. Change is inevitable. I might whine about it, but it's just a look, and no different from any other art I see here. Some I like, some I don't.
The hyperlinks no longer being underlined is like playing one of those Myst-style games where you have to click on everything to see what it does. Hovering over everything and waiting to see if a little hand shows up is annoying. I can't really see the subtle difference between white and gray as an indicator of what page I'm on in the galleries without sticking my face up against the monitor, and the only way I know what words on the pages are links is because I've been here long enough to know how to navigate to where I want to go. If you're not going to underline the links, can we have some other, more obvious clues? Can I get used to this? I don't know yet. Right now I'm hating it, but perhaps my brain will learn to distinguish the subtle differences. (If I were a new member, or a prospective member though, I don't know how easy it would be to navigate the site!)
The bright blue (and even the darker blue I'm now seeing) are absolutely awful, and I won't get used to them. This afternoon I went browsing to see if there were other art sites I might be happy with, in case the members don't win this argument and the awful color stays. Unfortunately, there really aren't. Renderosity is unique. I'm not making threats about leaving. Seriously ... I'm sure RR doesn't need my $5.00 per month in order to stay afloat, and I've seen oodles of people leave because they're ticked about some change you've made, and all they get is gone. It's stupid. You'll all go one with or without me. I'm just letting you know how strongly I feel about the color ... I was looking for alternatives, and if I had found a good one, I would have been checking it out more carefully instead of adding to this thread.
Stacey, I'm sure you know me well enough to understand the spirit of my previous comment ... I'll assume Andrew was the only one who didn't get it. I know you really do have our best interests at heart, and you want to make this the best site it can be. Knowing you're at least seriously considering our nearly (so far) unanimous complaint makes me feel better about the whole thing.
If this weren't an art site, I wouldn't care what the background color was, but everyone here is an artist at one level or another, and most of us are very attuned to the effects of color. The blue-gray we had before (and that still shows up in a lot of places) wasn't my favorite when you changed over to THAT scheme, but at least it's a subdued color. If you must have a color, could it just have a lot of dark gray in it please? Don't make our art fight the background color. The color I'm seeing now makes anything I've posted that contains a lot of green look absolutely billious. I like green a lot, and would like to be able to continue to use it in my art!
So:
New look ... I'll adjust.
Hyperlinks ... jury is still out.
Brilliant blue background ... No, no, and no.
Thanks for listening.
(Oh yeah ... and the double spacing when I hit the Enter key is still driving me bonkers!)
"If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough." ... Robert Capa
IO4 posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 2:45 AM
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On a positive note (after all the complaints about the blue, yes, I complained too...) I have just visited the market place and it seems to me to be much better. I never used to like browsing there before, but things seem to me to be easier to find, and the layout and look just seems a whole lot better.
I notice our artists pages have reverted back to how they used to be before the recent change where you could customize sections. Are they going to stay the way they are now?
FutureFantasyDesign posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 3:03 AM
OK I came back and nothing is changed. RO has made some gaffs in the past, but this is a really bad one! Why would you want to look like this? Seriously??? Are you truly thinking this is good???
I know it doesn't matter to you what we think, and I wonder why you asked about bugs when you should have asked the phenominal artists here for ideas! Sveva comes to mind as a great person to ask about this, her site is beautiful. Actually anything would improve on this!
Lastly, why is no one from ro responding to these comments and legitimate (*hurting eyes) issues!? At least revert back to the old colors until you can decide on a better looking, more esthetic site! Seems in the past you asked and had contests on doing new site looks.
Again, being a diabetic, who has vision issues, I have to complain that I cannot see past the color that is very distracting, painful and nauseating all at the same time. PLEASE help me and those of us that are being penalized by your choices!
Oh, a response would be nice too.
sincerely,
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Hubert posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 3:29 AM
Hi,
I appreciate changes and the efforts for a new style, but really dislike this new blue color scheme!! Besides: No, I will NOT get used to this new coloring..... :(
@ R'osity:
Thanks for consideration.
Hubert
"All that we see or fear, is but a Sphere inside a Sphere." (E. A. Pryce -- Tuesday afternoon, 1845)
WildDesigns posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 6:16 AM
Well, looking a bit better this morning. I see the colors have been toned down. I had to get out of Firefox and get into IE to see if anything had been done, and there has been a slight change for the better. Thanks for listening to us. Now, go a step further and tone it down just a bit more and make the font in these text boxes bigger and I'll be a happy camper. :)
doarte posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 6:57 AM
Are the banners that used to exist on the top been eliminated? The single one at the bottom makes one scroll to the bottom to see it, and it seems far from on the information on the page. Any change of restoring the ones that appeared at the top?
mamba-negra posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 8:18 AM
I think the problem here is that any colors the site uses will likely have a negative effect on some images in the gallery....renderosity can't control which colors you use, so there will always be some colors that simply don't jar well with the color of choice. On top of that, there are the usual preferences of colors (some folks don't like certain colors)
If it were my site, I would never allow a gallery that I didn't strictly control contents of to have any color: either black, white or somewhere inbetween. Otherwise, you'll get garish clashes with some images-and since this is an artist oriented site...that is pretty bad. I think it's clear that those making the big decisions are not designers and probably never even thought of thumbnails and pictures fitting in with the rest of the site...yet, this site's whole purpose is visual in nature...
As for my opinion on the rest of the site, it looks OK. It's more modern than the previous style, and reminds me of most of the new CSS based sites-which means they are definitely moving in the right direction. I think they are doing the right thing in general, and look forward to seeing how things look in the near future.
KageRyu posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 9:15 AM
Ok, I see that the colors are a little darker, still brighter than I'd like, but at least Renderosity staff are taking some notes and making changes - so there may be hope yet that the colors at least will get more liveable.
Many are not seeing the colors have changed though, I think those of you who frequent the site often may need to do a forced page refresh to get the new colors loaded (or clear your internet cache possibly). That may prevent any small changes in colors and gradients from showing, especially if the pick used is named the same as the old one, then most often it will simply use the one already in the cache.
I still say the old look was far better, especially the colors. It's mainly the blue - there's just too much of it, and even though it's darker than it was yesterday it's still far brighter than the older site and far brighter than is comfortable for my eyes.
Though, I will add just for reference, I am one of those people that generally hates change, especially if it is change just for change's sake. If something is broken, or something new needs to be added, ok, that's one thing, but even then I prefer when things stay as close to what they are as possible. Given that, My views will be very biased. It seems everyone is changing their websites now, and most are not doing it for the better coughDaz3Dcough*. *I just feel if it's not broken don't break it.
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LaurieA posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 9:33 AM
Ok, I opened another browser to see the changes made to the site and I'll stick with my altered one. Meh. Too much color and it clashes with the art, the thumbs....everything. One topic that keeps coming up and that I agree with is that this is an art site. The colors should be neurtral as you can get them so they don't compete with everything else. That color ain't doing it ;). For as much as ppl seem to hate the new Daz site, their colors are still neutral so it doesn't fight with their product thumbs and images. You're a money making site: the last thing you want is for the products to get lost in the background. Rethink the whole color scheme. Seriously.
Laurie
Faerydae posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 9:45 AM
I don't know if it's something on my end or not, but since the change every page on R'osity is loading very slowly, especially the marketplace. It's not happening on any other site. Anyone else having this problem?
SeanE posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 9:50 AM
** BLUE!!!!!!!**
How can anyone possibly think a bright blue like this is a good thing for an art website???
It violently clashes with the actual pictures as can be seen below -->
The thumbnails need to be set against a nice neutral colour such as black so you're not distracted by all that BLUE!!!!!
At least the actual gallry image has a black background, but now that stands out like a sore thumb against the BLUE!!!!!!!! of the surrounds -->
But dear Lord, it's BLUE!!!!!!
Who on Earth thought thsi was a good idea???..?
Black was so much better. Cgtalk uses black, ItsArt uses black - why? Because it's the most effective background that's why. We look at the picture NOT the BLUE!!!!! of the website.
OK, so the argument is "Oh but it makes Rendersoity stand out so much more effectively than those other sites"... Well since WHEN has Marketing ever had a better clue as to what works or not artistically than the art dept. itself, in any company on the face of the planet? Gawd... I feel like we've entered the Dilbert zone with this BLUE!!!!!. Who did the website coding - the Elbonians?
Please please change it back to a darker colour or the dark grey/black of before
This is more than a simple change of header/title - which everyone hates anyway but we get used to - this is far more serious.
Sean
KageRyu posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 10:44 AM
Maybe, and this is just speculation, they chose blue because they became aware of how much notice was taken of and how popular the Navi were, and they were blue after all - or maybe it's a cross-marketing promotion for the new smurfs movie?
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MKeyes posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:13 AM
Oh my goodness, I can't believe all of what I'm reading, and here I was, soooooo proud of Rendo for getting away from that tired old faded blue! I have never seen so many people soooo resistant to CHANGE! Well for me, I say... it's about TIME Rendo... THEY will get used to it. My goodness, I am a CHRONIC MIGRAINE sufferer... on prescription meds that doesn't always work... but this blue - is your common navy blue - not ultra bright blazing BLUE - not startling stinging WHITE - not glow in the dark lime green, but a nice, neutral everyday blue.
I swear... YOU CANNOT WIN!!! Rendo - do what you have to do... but CHANGE IS GOOD! And I know I'm no one in particularly important in the scheme of it all... but - I LIKE IT...and so do many of those I've showed the new site to!
It DOES NOT distract from the art! Or anything else... SMH - I'm out of here, I'm uploading a new picture and very proud to do so!
Hehehehe - I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I will go now...
LaurieA posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:17 AM
Well, I for one will NOT get used to it, thanks. And apparently you didn't see the first version. Barfmaking.
Laurie
cherokee69 posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:26 AM
Quote - Oh my goodness, I can't believe all of what I'm reading, and here I was, soooooo proud of Rendo for getting away from that tired old faded blue! I have never seen so many people soooo resistant to CHANGE! Well for me, I say... it's about TIME Rendo... THEY will get used to it. My goodness, I am a CHRONIC MIGRAINE sufferer... on prescription meds that doesn't always work... but this blue - is your common navy blue - not ultra bright blazing BLUE - not startling stinging WHITE - not glow in the dark lime green, but a nice, neutral everyday blue.
I swear... YOU CANNOT WIN!!! Rendo - do what you have to do... but CHANGE IS GOOD! And I know I'm no one in particularly important in the scheme of it all... but - I LIKE IT...and so do many of those I've showed the new site to!
It DOES NOT distract from the art! Or anything else... SMH - I'm out of here, I'm uploading a new picture and very proud to do so!
Hehehehe - I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I will go now...
The current colors of the site look unprofessional and detract from the "art" that is posted here. It looks like some kids put the site together for their first one and thought...oh, that blue us nice, let's use it. What's more important, the colors of the site that will throw you in shock the first time you see it or the "art" posted on the site?
I'm another one that will not get use to a site with bright colors.
KageRyu posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:29 AM
Actually it's not a common navy blue, even now. Navy blue is darker.
Also I will not get used to it. That is a presumtuous statement to make for everyone.
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auntietk posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:31 AM
" ... but this blue - is your common navy blue - not ultra bright blazing BLUE - not startling stinging WHITE - not glow in the dark lime green, but a nice, neutral everyday blue ... "
MKeyes ... I don't think you're seeing what everyone else is seeing. Part of the color scheme is still the neutral navy, but the gallery pages ARE an "ultra bright blazing BLUE".
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Afrodite-Ohki posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:32 AM
Quote - Oh my goodness, I can't believe all of what I'm reading, and here I was, soooooo proud of Rendo for getting away from that tired old faded blue! I have never seen so many people soooo resistant to CHANGE! Well for me, I say... it's about TIME Rendo... THEY will get used to it. My goodness, I am a CHRONIC MIGRAINE sufferer... on prescription meds that doesn't always work... but this blue - is your common navy blue - not ultra bright blazing BLUE - not startling stinging WHITE - not glow in the dark lime green, but a nice, neutral everyday blue.
I swear... YOU CANNOT WIN!!! Rendo - do what you have to do... but CHANGE IS GOOD! And I know I'm no one in particularly important in the scheme of it all... but - I LIKE IT...and so do many of those I've showed the new site to!
It DOES NOT distract from the art! Or anything else... SMH - I'm out of here, I'm uploading a new picture and very proud to do so!
Hehehehe - I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I like change! I will go now...
I don't fear change. Rendo used to change layout once every year and I liked that. I change my furniture places in my bedroom all the time. I color my hair purple, blue, green, everytime I get tired of it.
With all due respect, have you ever studied/researched design? Do you have any idea about color schemes, color symbolism and the effect one color has against the other? This is not just a matter of the blue DISTRACTING from the art, it's actually causing a visual illusion that makes all the colors in the artwork look DIFFERENT. Apart from that, all those gradients even in the menus make everything look cheap, made by non-professionals. Those double-edges on the Community, Advertising, Tip of the Week boxes? Damn cheap. All in all, this looks like a site I'd go to when I was 14 to brag about what I could make, NOT one I'd come at age 26 to sell and buy produts that help others create their artwork.
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KageRyu posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:41 AM
This is Navy Blue Clearly more toward blue, and still darker than the current background. Also, navy blue never has been considered a neutral color by any color theory I learned or have read. Neutral colors always tend to be more muted, less saturated. There are neutral colors that are light, mostly in the gray family, but some earth tones and off whites as well. The current background is more of a cerulean at the edges, headed for turquoise in the center - whic is an improvement from the previous Turquoise grading toward neon, but still far from neutral.
P.S. This Navy Blue from digital charts is still several shades lighter than an acurate Pantone navy blue or pigmentation charts references.
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FutureFantasyDesign posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 11:50 AM
Quote - I don't know if it's something on my end or not, but since the change every page on R'osity is loading very slowly, especially the marketplace. It's not happening on any other site. Anyone else having this problem?
Yes I posted in the other thread about this.
Best of luck.
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Star4mation posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 3:11 PM
Way too blue for my eyes!!
If it ain't free, I can't afford it.
Miss Nancy posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 3:55 PM
maybe they've got a poll ready to see if the silent majority also hates everything. keep it short and simple, e.g.:
then allow them to select the site theme/style they prefer and switch it to that in their browser.
Shutter_Bug posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 4:00 PM
Not lovin' the new look either. And YES, the color scheme does hurt the eyes. I'm not old and my vision is not impaired...but it sure feels like it is now.
Also not crazy about the new logo thingy in the upper left corner. Can't even make out what it is. For an art site I expect to see something that dazzles and inspires.
Junglegeorge posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 4:15 PM
Quote -
** BLUE!!!!!!!**
How can anyone possibly think a bright blue like this is a good thing for an art website???
It violently clashes with the actual pictures as can be seen below -->
The thumbnails need to be set against a nice neutral colour such as black so you're not distracted by all that BLUE!!!!!
At least the actual gallry image has a black background, but now that stands out like a sore thumb against the BLUE!!!!!!!! of the surrounds -->
But dear Lord, it's BLUE!!!!!!
Who on Earth thought thsi was a good idea???..?
Black was so much better. Cgtalk uses black, ItsArt uses black - why? Because it's the most effective background that's why. We look at the picture NOT the BLUE!!!!! of the website.
OK, so the argument is "Oh but it makes Rendersoity stand out so much more effectively than those other sites"... Well since WHEN has Marketing ever had a better clue as to what works or not artistically than the art dept. itself, in any company on the face of the planet? Gawd... I feel like we've entered the Dilbert zone with this BLUE!!!!!. Who did the website coding - the Elbonians?
Please please change it back to a darker colour or the dark grey/black of before
This is more than a simple change of header/title - which everyone hates anyway but we get used to - this is far more serious.
Sean
I´m with Sean on this. At least have a neutral (black or dark grey) background in the gallery section. This blue is not good for the art display.
In real life mats for framing (passepartout) is usually black our white, not blue.
You should listen to your artists/members on this one.
Best regards
Göran/Junglegeorge
SWAMP posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 6:58 PM
The blue color isn’t bad……..
If you’re a tropical fish!
Faerydae posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 7:53 PM
Quote - The blue color isn’t bad……..
If you’re a tropical fish!
LOL!
Thanks Ariana. Glad to know it's not just me having these speed issues!
rebelmommy posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 8:51 PM
Quote - The blue color isn’t bad……..
If you’re a tropical fish!
What you don't like having your retinas burned? LOL Thank goodness I have Firefox and use the Color That Site add on or I would not be able to stand more then 5 minutes here with that horrid color!
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FaeMoon posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 9:11 PM
Okay, I thought something was wrong that I was suddenly seeing the Beta colors all the time rather than just on the pages of folks who had signed up for the Beta. I guess it went live anyways.
I have to say these are not good colors for an art website at all. Please go back to true NEUTRAL colors, not anything that is blue, red, pink, purple, yellow, etc. It fights with the artwork. My art looks awful now with the surrounding blue, and that's not how I wish it to be viewed. ME - the artist - would like it displayed with a neutral surrounding.
When I opened up the site and my friend was walking through the room, he stopped and said, 'Holy hell.. what is that? What did they do?' I think the majority of us here have the same opinion. 'What is this hot mess?'
Yeah, I can download a fix for me.. but it doesn't fix how others who come to the site see it. They see the blue. If I do a piece in greens and yellows or sepia, it looks absolutely horrible with the surrounding color. You wouldn't frame a picture in your home in this color would you? Not on your life.. so why would you use it on an art website?
I still see it very bright, by the way. Very, very bright.
FaeMoon posted Fri, 08 July 2011 at 9:23 PM
Here are some examples where the clashing is extremely bad
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2213204&user_id=653664&member&np
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2199479&user_id=653664&member&np
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2163071&user_id=653664&page=2&member&np
Just a fewexamples from my gallery that I think the blue especially clashes with or draws the eye away from.
SeanE posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 2:56 AM
Really Rendo admins,
doesn't it speak volumes that people are almost universally AGAINST the changes that have bene made with the BLUE!!!! theme?
of course you haven't a clue about the silent members or new visitors that have seen it and just quietly left very quickly...
and how the CSS forum is suddenly experienceing a distinct spike in activity and new posts with new modifying code?
doesn't that make you think that "hmmm.. maybe we got it wrong this time..?"
Really..?
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 7:52 AM
New Customer drops in... "ACK! My eyes!" Turns and runs from site without seeing the gallery or buying a damn thing!
Result: Bad for the great artists here, and double bad for RO (*and US!) who needs to sell!
Win/Win?
No/No!
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scanmead posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 10:18 AM
Being old-fashioned, I like black. Desktop is black, renders against black, black for fonts. So everything looks garish to me. This blue isn't that bad, though. I mean it could be pink...
The site does respond faster, though, and that is a definite plus. And I can find the Logout now, which I never could before.
Can you tell I'm on the fence? (Wondering if my monitor needs a little adjustment to desat things.)
FaeMoon posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 10:35 AM
My monitor has always made everything look amazing - art wise, and is calibrated and it the color of the site still appears much too saturated.
I really prefer the look of a gray/black/white site, or neutral off white.. something very unobtrusive. I do agree the site performs better, it's only the colors that are throwing me off.
I haven't gotten a response yet on the CSS that we can change. If I can alter my gallery so others see it in what I would like, then I will just move on and do that.
markschum posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 1:45 PM
I have to say for me the new site has been largely "meh". I cant honestly say I even notice the changes when I am on the forums and at least on my monitor the gallery background is a bluish grey that I dont find conflicts with the pics any more than any other color would.
I am sure that if Rendo management find a drop in sales in the marketplace they will revist and changes made. After all, they need to make a nice profit so we can have free forums, free galleries and chat.
A new user just needs to load the css stuff from the forum and he too can have PINK and GREEN text for the forums.
dragonmuse posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 2:01 PM
I have to chime in here too.. the colours are painful to look at and overwhelming the gallery and product images.
They are very pretty colours in of themselves, but they do not work for this application. You need muted shades so as to not take away fromt he gallery and product images. This just makes it uncomfortable to view the galleries and make the product pages look shoddy.
Plese put it back or give us the option to choose which we want.
I had hoped that your "upgrades" were to improve the performance and reduce the lag, instead, it is worse.
LaurieA posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 2:17 PM
Yeah, the site has definitely been slower for me, but I'm not sure if it's the new junk or if it's the css and FF addon I added to override it ;).
Laurie
FutureFantasyDesign posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 8:33 PM
Well I have yet to do the FF color but the site is really slow. I wait while the page has to think if it wants to talk with RO... *sigh.
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hewee posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 8:50 PM
Why for a Artist web site are the colors so hard on the eyes?
Hard to read parts of the site and then the menu dropdown that shows the text below it because of the transparency.
Then you need to look at the site with more then one type of monitor and setting because your see a lot more that is just not right.
Turn the lights on and off in the room also because that effects how the monitor also.
Then have others of all ages look at things because I bet it's only the younger or mostly the younger that like the brite colors that make it hard to see things.
Then the site is more then what all the new software you have can do so because it can do this or that does not mean it has to be used if you do not have to use it. May be cool and new but that does not mean it's better.
I have not read all the post or want to because I like my eyes and this site is now helping things for a 57 year old eye's.
Then of other web sites and forums and how many or using the same or almost the same colors after all the changes they make to the site over the years. It's because they keep it so it's easy to read and look at and your get more people who will stay around.
Even typing out the post is a little are on the and I made this reply box as big as you can get it. (Nice new thing is this reply box)
But it's still not right so it needs a bigger and or better font. I think maybe bigger because I see the fonts on the post are bigger then the reply box font. Even used the Full screen mode that I now have to keep using because going back the word wrap is not working right and you can not see all you have typed out.
Right clicking I see brings up more things but it also still brings up my Browser right click menu that is bigger and covers your right click menu. This you may of tested because it works OK with Firefox 2 and 3 but not with Pale Moon 3 that is really Firefox. With Pale Moon I can click the Exe key to close the Pale Moon right click menu to see the sites right click menu that was under it.
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hewee posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 8:57 PM
Sorry about the background.
Was checking things out and wanted to see if it was the whole page of the post or just behind the text. Then I changed it back to white because that was the reply box other background but not what you see when it's posted.
So you need to have a default color so it takes that away if we want to put it back.
I see not edit so can not edit the post to fix the trouble or try to fix it.
Plus the reply box did not return to the smaller fixed size after it was changed in the above post.
StaceyG posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 9:07 PM
We made a change to the gallery background color this evening.
goldie posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 9:30 PM
Quote - We made a change to the gallery background color this evening.
well, that certainly will make a number of people happy...since i am using FireFox and Color that Site, it now makes little difference to me what colors you choose to make the site...as far as speed and functionality are concerned, everything seems to be working fine for me...i am not experiencing any slowdowns at all...
auntietk posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 9:59 PM
Thank you, Stacey!
You rock!
That dark gray is lovely. A compromise ... I'll take it!
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LaurieA posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 10:10 PM
Thanks Stacey, tho it makes little difference since the image you click on still comes up on that nauseating blue background....lol. Not sure if you planned it that way, but only the gallery thumbs are on that gray background.
Laurie
auntietk posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 10:35 PM
I came back to tell you one more time how much I love the dark gray in the galleries! :D It's a very classy color, and perfect for displaying artwork.
I noticed Laurie's comment above. Hmmm. When I click open an image, it's surrounded by black. I think that's been true all through this whole thing. Yes, there is blue on the page, and no, I don't like the blue, but it's not next to the artwork, so I'm as happy as a pig in poo! (If I needed every frakkin' thing my way, I'd start my own art site. The gray is good enough for me!)
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Afrodite-Ohki posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 10:43 PM
Quote - We made a change to the gallery background color this evening.
Excellent! Now put that color or different shades of it in the background of the galleries, in the image view in galleries, in the forums and in the product pages... perhaps in front page... you know what, everywhere, replacing all the BLUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAARGH.
Seriously, that color around the gallery thumbnails is nice, it's what we meant by something neutral. But there's still the blue in all other places in the site.
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rebelmommy posted Sat, 09 July 2011 at 11:18 PM
Quote - Thanks Stacey, tho it makes little difference since the image you click on still comes up on that nauseating blue background....lol. Not sure if you planned it that way, but only the gallery thumbs are on that gray background.
Laurie
I agree. I love the grey that you have behind the thumbnails but the blue background against the grey and the fact that the images come up similar (with the grey against the blue) is still very distracting :(
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hewee posted Sun, 10 July 2011 at 1:11 AM
Quote - We made a change to the gallery background color this evening.
Thank you
So how do I undo any background color so it's as if I never picked a background color?
TomDart posted Sun, 10 July 2011 at 7:29 AM
The new is a killler on my eyes and is cheap looking...some class has been totally lost. Thanks for listening.
FaeMoon posted Sun, 10 July 2011 at 8:37 AM
I would really like to see all gray on the gallery pages. The thumbnails surrounded by the bright blue and the main background/wallpaper color on the page are still quite bright. It does help a bit to have the center section in the grays and blacks, but since that part is very narrow, the page is still mostly blue.
Thank you for listening though, it gives me some hope.
On the zoomed version of the picturs, I have a white surround. I am using Firefox.
wimvdb posted Sun, 10 July 2011 at 9:30 AM
The blue background remains very intrusive. Please give is the option to change this. Not in CSS, but as a genuine sekection
I really don't understand why you insist on everyone having this.
RodS posted Sun, 10 July 2011 at 6:40 PM
LOL @ Tara.... A pig in poo, huh??
Glad to see the gray next to the artwork - it really does look better than any bright, saturated color.
I think the big thing is that a gray or at least a gray/blue is a lot easier on the eyes over a long period - it's simply more relaxing, IMHO. A lot of your viewers are like me, they spend a LOT of time on Rendo. And it's a lot more calming and relaxing to have a muted color scheme than a large expanse of brilliant, saturatd color assailing your eyes for more than a short time.
Thanks for your hard work, and 'listening' to your visitors.
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TomDart posted Sun, 10 July 2011 at 8:24 PM
Rod, well said.
KageRyu posted Mon, 11 July 2011 at 12:52 PM
Quote - We made a change to the gallery background color this evening.
But applying only to selected blocks of the page creates an even more patchwork and ugly look to the pages overall, especially with the bright blues surrounding it and in some of the side menus. The site looks truely hideous now.
I really do not see why the big change of appearance, and why to such a gaudy and obnoxious look? The old look was much more tasteful in appearance. Even if a new look was absolutely nescessary there are so many options that would have looked much more appealing and tasteful than this color scheme and layout.
I saw it mentioned this color scheme was chosen for attention - but just getting attention is not always a good thing. The kind of attention this look and color scheme reminds me of is the three year old throwing a tantrum screaming "look at me! look at me!". Maybe that's what was wanted, I just feel it does not do the site, or all of the brockered artists and content creators on the site justice. Given that Daz Studio and Poser content seems to make up a majority of the content too, I feel it does not do those communities justice, and will result in them being seen and treated even more like amatures and hobbyists among other CG artist groups (something that is already a problem).
Just my extended thought.
P.S. The site as a whole responds even slower than ever for me, and I am seeing applets hitting on my firewall now every time I visit Rendo. Not something that makes me happy.
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Notilize posted Mon, 11 July 2011 at 1:03 PM
Quote - > Quote - We made a change to the gallery background color this evening.
But applying only to selected blocks of the page creates an even more patchwork and ugly look to the pages overall, especially with the bright blues surrounding it and in some of the side menus. The site looks truely hideous now.
I really do not see why the big change of appearance, and why to such a gaudy and obnoxious look? The old look was much more tasteful in appearance. Even if a new look was absolutely nescessary there are so many options that would have looked much more appealing and tasteful than this color scheme and layout.
I saw it mentioned this color scheme was chosen for attention - but just getting attention is not always a good thing. The kind of attention this look and color scheme reminds me of is the three year old throwing a tantrum screaming "look at me! look at me!". Maybe that's what was wanted, I just feel it does not do the site, or all of the brockered artists and content creators on the site justice. Given that Daz Studio and Poser content seems to make up a majority of the content too, I feel it does not do those communities justice, and will result in them being seen and treated even more like amatures and hobbyists among other CG artist groups (something that is already a problem).
I couldn't agree more with you. (Except the layout doesn't bother me.) What get's to me is how awful and cheap it looks. It really bugs me. This site use to look really nice, like a pro. Now it looks like a site that makes no money.
FutureFantasyDesign posted Mon, 11 July 2011 at 8:16 PM
Also the blue on grey colors is extremely difficult to see. Seriously, why don't you go back to the way it was before? There were no problems and we looked very professional and maybe even considered beautiful compared to this new design. If this style is the better design of sites now, then I admit I want to be antiquated!
These 'cells' are unfinished looking, they are misaligned, mis-sized, and they do not have a cohesive or polished look. Were I paying someone to do my site I would fire them and look elsewhere. This is just honesty, not any other reason.
Why does RO feel the need to mess with what was a beautiful end product now? I remember the contest that resulted in the original new blue look, and it was a stunning improvement! I don't recall a contest this year, or even being notified or asked if we had an opinion before the site changed. And it is hard to believe someone saw this before hand and said "Wow! That's fantastic!".
I know everyone who has voiced an opinion, has done so because they love the community here. I do not believe any negative comments come from any snarky-ness or malice. Just honest shock.
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FaeMoon posted Tue, 12 July 2011 at 12:08 AM
Seriously, I'm having trouble looking through galleries to even do comments on more than five or six at a time. This color bothers me - hurts my eyes even. Yes, I could change it for ME, but it bugs me that the color could.. and probably will, keep others away. Not every visitor will want to take the time to do CSS .. not everyone will know how.
I'm falling behind in comments again. :P
IO4 posted Fri, 15 July 2011 at 12:27 PM
Quote - We made a change to the gallery background color this evening.
Thank you Rendro team for listening to the members and changing the colour to a more neutral one!!! It looks great - :thumbupboth:
Afrodite-Ohki posted Fri, 15 July 2011 at 2:42 PM
Today I finally allowed myself to change the CSS in the forums and galleries. Still, it can't be done in the Marketplace, and the entire thing looks horrible. I lost my will to shop here entirely - and that scares me, because all the products I sell are here (and since the site change, I only sold two single products)...
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Notilize posted Fri, 15 July 2011 at 2:50 PM
Quote - Today I finally allowed myself to change the CSS in the forums and galleries. Still, it can't be done in the Marketplace, and the entire thing looks horrible. I lost my will to shop here entirely - and that scares me, because all the products I sell are here (and since the site change, I only sold two single products)...
That is something that bugs me too. And what really bugs me is that my banner ads have had WAY WAY LESS clicks given the number of impressions, than they usual do. I have removed a lot of my products since this new site. And a part of me really doesn't want to sell here anymore. But I don't know yet.
papasmrfe posted Fri, 15 July 2011 at 5:48 PM
I want the old color scheme back. It was wonderful. I loved it.
For Renderosity to expect a vast sum of it's users to create/find/implement work-arounds just because one person (or even a small handful of people) is determined to make everyone else like their idea is a really bad call. People are more likely to simply avoid it (and help another site grow) than to bother trying to "get used to it". (... a very poor choice of words when dealing with clients/customers/patrons.)
'C'mon people; Embrace the pain...' - Yeah, not likely.
I may be logging in more often since the overhaul... but that's only to see if they've changed things back yet, to the way it was before. THIS HURTS MY EYES! I like Renderosity's community... but I HATE the new colors!
Honestly, I haven't even bothered to test the new layout yet, simply because I can't stand looking at it. (It really is offensive to the eyes.) I can only hope this feedback will help to make a difference. Oh, and if the decision-makers find what I wrote offensive... go ahead and keep this color scheme - and you'll get used to it.
Notilize posted Fri, 15 July 2011 at 6:29 PM
Quote - I may be logging in more often since the overhaul... but that's only to see if they've changed things back yet, to the way it was before.
Same here. I don't mind the new layout so much, like I've said before. But this blue setup is both cheap & unprofessional looking. Other than that I'm okay with the new changes. (except for the placement of the free banner ads not being up top anymore. But that's speaking as a vendor.)
durleybeachbum posted Sat, 16 July 2011 at 2:34 AM
Thankyou for listening, (however reluctantly!)
I agree absolutely with Tara.
Not perfect but So much easier on the eyes.
goldie posted Sat, 16 July 2011 at 11:17 PM
i simply don't understand why Rosity is so married to this new color scheme...it really is hideous, and if I didn't have Firefox with the Change that Site addon, I doubt that I would be visiting very often...
Francemi posted Mon, 18 July 2011 at 9:40 PM
I intended to read all the posts in this thread before saying what I want to say but I'm afraid I can't. I see all the posts in blurred white letters. ;o(
I don't really mind as I don't visit the forums much. One thing I do mind though is the page numbers in the Marketplace. I never know where I'm at. The active links are the same color (or VERY CLOSE TO) as the visited links. When I browse the MP and I get to page 10+ then I quit because I have to check 3 or 4 numbers to see if that's the one I'm on.
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Kokoroheart posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 11:44 AM
When I went onto the 'Beta' version of the site a few weeks ago, I e-mailed Rendo with the suggestion to have users be able to change the color scheme but, I guess the e-mail got lost in the blue. :m_wink:
StaceyG posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 1:54 PM
Quote - I intended to read all the posts in this thread before saying what I want to say but I'm afraid I can't. I see all the posts in blurred white letters. ;o(
I don't really mind as I don't visit the forums much. One thing I do mind though is the page numbers in the Marketplace. I never know where I'm at. The active links are the same color (or VERY CLOSE TO) as the visited links. When I browse the MP and I get to page 10+ then I quit because I have to check 3 or 4 numbers to see if that's the one I'm on.
I'm gonna check on this right now:)
Francemi posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 1:57 PM
Okay, thanks Stacey
Here is a screenshot. There IS a difference but it is so subtle that I don't get to see it unless I stretch my eyelids!
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iloco posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 2:53 PM
Quote - When I went onto the 'Beta' version of the site a few weeks ago, I e-mailed Rendo with the suggestion to have users be able to change the color scheme but, I guess the e-mail got lost in the blue. :m_wink:
I also asked on page 1 of this thread to give us the option to go back to the old colors.
I got no reply from Renderosity Staff.......?
I have been trying to get use to the Blue but for the life of me I can not. It makes the site look so cheap. Reminds me of cat house advertising for some reason. It's not art oriented at all.
Please give us the option to choose the old colors.............
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papasmrfe posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 5:13 PM
At this point I think it's fairly obvious, from both the given responses, and the lack there-of, that Renderosity has every intention of keepinig this color scheme whether people like it or not. They may be willing to tweak what they have done, but they are not willing to consider reverting. So be it. It is their site, and people don't have to come here if they don't like it.
However, (it is my opinion that) refusing to offer patrons the option to use the old color scheme (even for their own viewing) is nothing more than a stubborn power trip - considering that it would be much easier to code the site with a two-click preference option (which they already have the specs for) than it is to expect thousands of users to change browsers and/or re-code all of their preferences individually in dhtml. (... so much for the concept of 'community'.)
Visiting an art site is something that should be enjoyed, not endured.
Once again, I can only hope that my frustrated response will have some positive impact on the view-ability of this site. We really aren't asking for much, just a simple color-scheme option. I don't understand why Renderosity would continue to refuse such a simple, and reasonable request.
Faerydae posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 5:45 PM
I completely agree. It shouldn't be that hard to have both options/sites or just multiple colors schemes available from a dropdown menu for each user, or potential customer, to be able to choose which one works best for them. Other sites have features like this so I don't understand why it can't be that way here too.
bagginsbill posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 6:34 PM
I have tried a couple simple things and found that using CSS (not on this site, but simply in my browser configuration) I can override pretty much everything. I don't need cooperation from Rendo to make the visited links different from active links, on every page. I'm not a CSS expert so finding all the syntax is boring and tedious, but it seems I don't have to accept the colors even if Rendo refuses to make them selectable. And I didn't have to get any special plugins either.
Even better would be if Rendo would skip presentation entirely. Present everything as a RESTful web service, respond with XML, and let us develop nice UI for everything and we can SELL them in the marketplace and Rendo can make MONEY from individualized web design instead of making anger.
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RodS posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 6:51 PM
Quote - It is their site, and people don't have to come here if they don't like it.
And this is the part I really don't get..... They don't HAVE to come here. There are plenty of other 3D sites with great merchandise.
I mean, if I had a website that I wanted lots of people to come to, spend a lot of time on, and SPEND MONEY on, I would do everything in my power to entice those people to stay for as long as possible. That includes using a color scheme that my potential (and especially my existing) customers find soothing and relaxing.
Aesthetics plays a huge part in the "sticky factor" of a site - especially a site geared towards an artistic audience.
I don't know - maybe I'm just a simple-minded country boy, but it just makes no sense to me..... Somebody must really be fond of oversaturated blue...
I guess we'll just have to "get used to it..."
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FaeMoon posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 6:51 PM
What browser are you using? I used to use Chrome, but switched to Firefox without flash downloaded - less freeze ups in PP 2010.
LaurieA posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 7:00 PM
I used CSS and a FF plugin to change the colors of the site. Still doesn't mean I don't them to change the colors. Not everyone can or will bother to do the necessary things to change the look.
Laurie
cherokee69 posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 7:04 PM
Quote - At this point I think it's fairly obvious, from both the given responses, and the lack there-of, that Renderosity has every intention of keepinig this color scheme whether people like it or not.
They must have been on drugs too when they decided on the colors.
FaeMoon posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 8:21 PM
That's my feeling too, Laurie. Not everyone is versed in CSS or in manipulating their browser settings. I know there are many who just come here to browse the art, and we can't expect everyone to tailor the site to their tastes. Most will just go somewhere else if they find it too distracting.
cherokee69 posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 8:29 PM
Remember when the site use to show how many people were cruising Rosity? That ain't there now.
KimberlyC posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 8:55 PM
cherokee, I see it on the top left side right under the Renderosity logo:
6507 artists currently online
Is that what you mean? :)
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yoyodyne5 posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 9:19 PM
Quote - At this point I think it's fairly obvious, from both the given responses, and the lack there-of, that Renderosity has every intention of keepinig this color scheme whether people like it or not. They may be willing to tweak what they have done, but they are not willing to consider reverting. So be it. It is their site, and people don't have to come here if they don't like it.
However, (it is my opinion that) refusing to offer patrons the option to use the old color scheme (even for their own viewing) is nothing more than a stubborn power trip - considering that it would be much easier to code the site with a two-click preference option (which they already have the specs for) than it is to expect thousands of users to change browsers and/or re-code all of their preferences individually in dhtml. (... so much for the concept of 'community'.)
Visiting an art site is something that should be enjoyed, not endured.
Once again, I can only hope that my frustrated response will have some positive impact on the view-ability of this site. We really aren't asking for much, just a simple color-scheme option. I don't understand why Renderosity would continue to refuse such a simple, and reasonable request.
Obviously, Renderosity has spent a gazillion of copper pennies to come up with the conclusion that this particular shade of blue is the bomb. What do us mere netizens know about color schemes and marketing studies anyway? Did we spend all that time and treasure in market research and design? Nooo. And yet, they are willing to throw a bone to the natives. Though it's in the company playbook not to admit to making mistakes in the first place, otherwise heads may roll.
Though come to think of it, it's us paying customers that have involuntarily funded this particular monstrosity of a change in the first place. And guess where the money for staff salaries comes from? So we have every right to gripe and not "get used to it," if we're not happy.
Isn't it strange that there isn't a poll regarding customer satisfaction on the new color scheme? Wonder what the numbers would tell us? Hmmm.
dadt posted Wed, 20 July 2011 at 12:45 PM
Quote - Remember when the site use to show how many people were cruising Rosity? That ain't there now.
As far as I can tell the number of people currently online has dropped by about 25% since the site changes.
Khai-J-Bach posted Wed, 20 July 2011 at 3:33 PM
Quote - cherokee, I see it on the top left side right under the Renderosity logo:
6507 artists currently online
Is that what you mean? :)
currently 6001 are "vistor"... so I wonder just how accurate the "artists" online actually is.
Notilize posted Wed, 20 July 2011 at 3:55 PM
Quote - > Quote - cherokee, I see it on the top left side right under the Renderosity logo:
6507 artists currently online
Is that what you mean? :)
currently 6001 are "vistor"... so I wonder just how accurate the "artists" online actually is.
Accurate or not. It's still less than usual.
DAM3D posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 12:47 AM
Quote - No there isn't.. Give yourself some time to get used to it:) I absolutely love it the more I see it!!
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JenniSjoberg posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 11:27 AM
I'd just like to add my "Do NOT like!" vote about the blue colour.
It's way too strong and it overtakes the art in the galleries.
A neutral colour like a darkish grey or black would be much much prefered.. Even a de-saturated darker version of this blue would be ok.. but it has to be alot less saturated!
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Hubert posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 4:46 AM
After several visits and much pondering... no, I will NOT "get used to this" new blue color scheme!!
Even Woody got the blues!! ;)
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KageRyu posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 9:21 PM
yup, been several weeks. Still hating this new site. Not getting used to it.
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FaeMoon posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 10:30 PM
Hubert.. I love your render! Perfect statement of how I feel!
Francemi posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 10:38 PM
I love that picture too Hubert. Especially the "You are on this floor" image which looks exactly how the page numbers look to me in the various sections of Rendo nowadays.
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papasmrfe posted Sun, 31 July 2011 at 4:43 PM
Nice images Hubert. I love your work!
It looks like Nyacky has the blues as well...
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/browse.php?user_id=155416
Hubert posted Sun, 31 July 2011 at 5:09 PM
Hi papasmrfe,
a nice moody scene with Nyacky. Poor little Eggbert, he could fetch a tiny umbrella and then start "singing and dancing in the rain" therein. ;)
It seems, as there are meanwhile at least few fans for that new blue color scheme, see here:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2230369
More to come..... Woody ain´t finished with this color topic and certainly will not "get used to it"!
;)
Hubert
"All that we see or fear, is but a Sphere inside a Sphere." (E. A. Pryce -- Tuesday afternoon, 1845)
FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 6:44 PM
Quote - The Color the Site works wonders!
I say, you don't happen to have any clues or tutorials on how to change Rendo using that "Colour That Site" thing do you?
cos I've got it but can't figure out how to use it, it's like nothing I've ever used before, and I'm stumped.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
Francemi posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 6:49 PM
Quote - > Quote - The Color the Site works wonders!
I say, you don't happen to have any clues or tutorials on how to change Rendo using that "Colour That Site" thing do you?
cos I've got it but can't figure out how to use it, it's like nothing I've ever used before, and I'm stumped.
Same here. I downloaded it when I saw the note in this thread but I can't use it.
BTW, it seems we are talking for nothing here. It's been quite a while since I posted a screenshot of the page numbers in the MarketPlace to show that it is almost impossible to know on what page we are. It is still the same. Active Link = white, Visited Link = white, any other kinds of links = white. Frankly, it takes less than one minute to change the color of visited links in the files even if you don't use a stylesheet! And I can't believe they are not using a stylesheet which means it takes about 10 seconds to fix this problem. This is not a question of liking or not liking the new color theme (I DON'T LIKE IT BUT THIS IS NOT THE POINT). This is a matter of helping your customers browse YOUR marketplace and spend MONEY in YOUR store.
France, Proud Owner of
KCTC Freebies
FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 7:25 PM
Quote - Unfortunately it hurts badly my eyes too Stacey! :( :(
Turquoise is my favorite color as all shades of blue.. but unfortunately looks that they don't work at all for an art site! It's not at all neutral and looks awful in contrast with product thumbs and gallery art images unless their color scheme is white or green! :(
Rena
Me too, my eye strain is getting really bad with this. I also really like turquoise, real turquoise, not this muddy ancient (as in 'naff', not as in 'cool ancient dudes') thing somebody came up with - I'm finding it hard to beleive that someone actually planned this, it's almost like a committee decided on this 'colour scheme' because they couldn't agree on any of the nice ones.
And this is me tonning down the anger and frustration I feel when coming here now, so as to try and stay fairly polite.
I have up until now resisted leaving Rendo, - ever since the last disastrous style change, (which we did manage to fix with the use of a style sheet - which no longer works and now we can only use a style sheet for part of Rendo - the forums, and it's because of two forums I stay here, Wings3D and Bryce, but actually Daz now has quite a good Bryce forum over there, so it's just Wings and the company here in the Bryce forum that keeps me here.
But I am not happy, my homepage here is a mess, it looks disastrous with all that bad blue, I can't visit the galleries anymore (too bloo), it's a pain trying to send Sitemail now - (too bloo), I had some products I was thinking of selling - but not here, not now.
It wouldn't take much to stop me from coming back tomorrow...
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 7:39 PM
Quote - ...... New look ... I'll adjust.
Hyperlinks ... jury is still out.
Brilliant blue background ... No, no, and no.
Thanks for listening.
(Oh yeah ... and the double spacing when I hit the Enter key is still driving me bonkers!)
Oh, I didn't know I could complain about that double spacing agravation too - so I add my (hate it) vote to this "feature" as well.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
FranOnTheEdge posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 8:19 PM
It's there, but not visible as it's hidden by a blue bar - some other text is partially lost too.
Doesn't really bother me anything like as much as the "Beastly Blues" does. It's a pain, but not painful.
Measure
your mind's height
by the shade it casts.
Robert Browning (Paracelsus)
LaurieA posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 8:01 AM
Quote - BTW, it seems we are talking for nothing here. It's been quite a while since I posted a screenshot of the page numbers in the MarketPlace to show that it is almost impossible to know on what page we are. It is still the same. Active Link = white, Visited Link = white, any other kinds of links = white. Frankly, it takes less than one minute to change the color of visited links in the files even if you don't use a stylesheet! And I can't believe they are not using a stylesheet which means it takes about 10 seconds to fix this problem. This is not a question of liking or not liking the new color theme (I DON'T LIKE IT BUT THIS IS NOT THE POINT). This is a matter of helping your customers browse YOUR marketplace and spend MONEY in YOUR store.
I guess they figure you'll get used to it ;). Personally, I think the whole site looks ghastly...lol.
Laurie
Francemi posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 8:21 AM
Quote - > Quote - BTW, it seems we are talking for nothing here. It's been quite a while since I posted a screenshot of the page numbers in the MarketPlace to show that it is almost impossible to know on what page we are. It is still the same. Active Link = white, Visited Link = white, any other kinds of links = white. Frankly, it takes less than one minute to change the color of visited links in the files even if you don't use a stylesheet! And I can't believe they are not using a stylesheet which means it takes about 10 seconds to fix this problem. This is not a question of liking or not liking the new color theme (I DON'T LIKE IT BUT THIS IS NOT THE POINT). This is a matter of helping your customers browse YOUR marketplace and spend MONEY in YOUR store.
I guess they figure you'll get used to it ;). Personally, I think the whole site looks ghastly...lol.
Laurie
I DID get used to it. I never browse the MarketPlace anymore. So if I see something on page 1 that I like, I might buy it. If it is not on page 1, tough luck.
France, Proud Owner of
KCTC Freebies
faaeria posted Wed, 03 August 2011 at 2:14 PM
Download and install Color that site plugin. Reopen Firefox. Go to Renderosity main page.
On bottom righ corner you'll find a CTS icon. Click on it. Side bar will open. Click Go! button.
See attachement.
Don't be afraid to experiment! You can discard changes you did at any step or simply not save changes at all.
Sorry for my English and a quality of that pic. Still, hope it helps :)
Madbat posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 2:58 AM
Oh man this new scheme is REALLY hard on the eyes. I find it worse than Daz for the shock value I'm sorry to say, and It makes the art look terrible. This is not an improvement.
TallPockets posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 4:11 PM
''No there isn't.. Give yourself some time to get used to it:) I absolutely love it the more I see it!! (Stacey G)''
DEAR STACEY G: HELLO! .... Kinda' reminds me of what my EX told me about HER .... (THAT did NOT work out WELL) .... SMILES.
ALSO: Reminds me of my youth:
"You WILL eat your SPINACH and you WILL LIKE it!"
Everybody, sing along now with GRUMPY old TallPockets:
"And the beat goes on" ....
ALSO remnds me of a another old saying:
"Don't confuse me with the FACTS, MY (OUR) mind's made UP!"
OR a famous 'paraphrase':
'MEMBERS'? .... We don't need no stinkin' members".
OR a famous 'business' saying I was taught:
"The CUSTOMER is ALWAYS right"
GOD bless you and yours, StaceyG:
(Even HE told me in a 'dream' last night that 'blue' was meant for SKIES).
WINK.
Khai-J-Bach posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 5:36 PM
.... oh gods he's still doing it. causing English Teachers the world over to wince and reach for their mallets..
StaceyG posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 7:52 PM
TallPockets,
You gave me a lot of "quotes" and "reminds me of" sayings but this thread is really for your own opinion ()preferably in your own words of the new site look according to the subject line from the original poster. I gave my opinion and thoughts in my own words which I tend to do most times I post. I'm not really sure what you are wanting to convey.
Thanks
Stacey
SteveJax posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 8:42 PM
I've posted my CSS as an attachment in this thread.
Acadia posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 8:52 PM
My scheme is the old Renderosity one. The code for the CSS is in the thread in the CSS forum.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
SteveJax posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 9:01 PM
Quote - My scheme is the old Renderosity one. The code for the CSS is in the thread in the CSS forum.
Mine doesn't require any help from Color This Site.
cherokee69 posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 9:05 PM
Quote - My scheme is the old Renderosity one. The code for the CSS is in the thread in the CSS forum.
Acadia,
Which one is that? I can't seem to locate it rightnow since there are several diffeent post about the subject in there.
Thanks
Acadia posted Fri, 12 August 2011 at 11:21 PM
Quote - > Quote - My scheme is the old Renderosity one. The code for the CSS is in the thread in the CSS forum.
Acadia,
Which one is that? I can't seem to locate it rightnow since there are several diffeent post about the subject in there.
Thanks
It's in the thread by nruddock from July 2011. Here is the code. Just copy everything from below to the forum options CSS box and save.
/* Colours refer to -> http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_colors.asp /
/ Be sure to pick your own and edit in. /
/ These are just what works for me, your not expected to like them */
/* Link colouring -> http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_link.asp */
a { color: #FFFFFF }
a:hover { color: #9CA3C6; }
a:visited { color: #EAD310; }
a:active { color: #FFFFFF; }
/* Sizing to expand to full screen width /
table { width: 100%; }
#container { width: 100%; }
/ See note below on how to calculate for your screen size */
#content { width: 85%; }
/* Thread / post colouring */
body { background-image: none; background-color: #8793A1; color: #000000; }
#forum_inner_table { background-color: #1A293E; }
#forum_inner_table th { color: #C0C0C0; background-color: #1A293E; }
#forum_inner_table td { color: #C0C0C0; background-color: #2C3B4E; }
.inner_page { background-color: #2C3B4E; color: #C0C0C0; }
.forum_message_cell { width: 90%; }
#top_navigation li ul { opacity: 1.0; }
text-decoration: underline;
When copying to the stylesheet editor, you can remove comment lines, i.e. those between /* */ as they are not necessary, but may help you remember what each bit is for.
The calculation for the optimal value for the width % to use for #content is :-
rounddown(1 - (160 / screen width)) * 100
Adjust if the righthand menu shifts to the bottom of the page.
If you really do not care about the righthand strip being oddly placed, use 100%.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
cherokee69 posted Sat, 13 August 2011 at 5:30 AM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - My scheme is the old Renderosity one. The code for the CSS is in the thread in the CSS forum.
Acadia,
Which one is that? I can't seem to locate it rightnow since there are several diffeent post about the subject in there.
Thanks
It's in the thread by nruddock from July 2011. Here is the code. Just copy everything from below to the forum options CSS box and save.
/* Colours refer to -> http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_colors.asp /
/ Be sure to pick your own and edit in. /
/ These are just what works for me, your not expected to like them *//* Link colouring -> http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_link.asp */
a { color: #FFFFFF }
a:hover { color: #9CA3C6; }
a:visited { color: #EAD310; }
a:active { color: #FFFFFF; }/* Sizing to expand to full screen width /
table { width: 100%; }
#container { width: 100%; }
/ See note below on how to calculate for your screen size */
#content { width: 85%; }/* Thread / post colouring */
body { background-image: none; background-color: #8793A1; color: #000000; }#forum_inner_table { background-color: #1A293E; }
#forum_inner_table th { color: #C0C0C0; background-color: #1A293E; }
#forum_inner_table td { color: #C0C0C0; background-color: #2C3B4E; }
.inner_page { background-color: #2C3B4E; color: #C0C0C0; }
.forum_message_cell { width: 90%; }
#top_navigation li ul { opacity: 1.0; }
text-decoration: underline;
When copying to the stylesheet editor, you can remove comment lines, i.e. those between /* */ as they are not necessary, but may help you remember what each bit is for.
The calculation for the optimal value for the width % to use for #content is :-
rounddown(1 - (160 / screen width)) * 100
Adjust if the righthand menu shifts to the bottom of the page.
If you really do not care about the righthand strip being oddly placed, use 100%.
Thanks Acadia.
Going to have to do a little adjustment of colors. For me, the body color should be the header and side bar color and the body color should be black. At least that's the way I had mine set for the old site colors.
Acadia posted Sat, 13 August 2011 at 1:56 PM
Well, when you tweak it please post the new coding you are using to this thread:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2830996
I did indicate in that thread that some tweaks were needed but I didn't know how to make them.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
cherokee69 posted Sat, 13 August 2011 at 5:03 PM
OK, how's this.....
Here are the settings. I'd still like to getr rid of that new blue in the side bar and at the bottom of the page but not sure what to change.
/* Colours refer to -> http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_colors.asp /
/ Be sure to pick your own and edit in. /
/ These are just what works for me, your not expected to like them */
/* Link colouring -> http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_link.asp */
a { color: #FFFFFF }
a:hover { color: #9CA3C6; }
a:visited { color: #EAD310; }
a:active { color: #FFFFFF; }
/* Sizing to expand to full screen width /
table { width: 100%; }
#container { width: 100%; }
/ See note below on how to calculate for your screen size */
#content { width: 85%; }
/* Thread / post colouring */
body { background-image: none; background-color: #2C3B4E; color: #000000; }
#forum_inner_table { background-color: #1A293E; }
#forum_inner_table th { color: #C0C0C0; background-color: #1A293E; }
#forum_inner_table td { color: #C0C0C0; background-color: #000000; }
.inner_page { background-color: #000000; color: #C0C0C0; }
.forum_message_cell { width: 90%; }
#top_navigation li ul { opacity: 1.0; }
text-decoration: underline;
When copying to the stylesheet editor, you can remove comment lines, i.e. those between /* */ as they are not necessary, but may help you remember what each bit is for.
The calculation for the optimal value for the width % to use for #content is :-
rounddown(1 - (160 / screen width)) * 100
LaurieA posted Sat, 13 August 2011 at 5:47 PM
cherokee69...you could use an eyedropper program to get the color of the parts you want to change and then change the matching value in the css..just a thought ;).
I have jcpicker on my machine at all times..lol.
Laurie