muromedia opened this issue on Jul 17, 2011 · 104 posts
muromedia posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 6:18 AM
Trying to figure why this is happening on my new install of Lion on my Mac. All the little figures on the library panel, show the missing icon image.
If anyone has seem something similar b4 please advise.
Nick
saibabameuk posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 6:47 AM
This is the sort of thing that makes me shy of new software, have you contacted the Mac help line?
You could try your local geniuse bar.
nruddock posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 6:55 AM
Given that Lion is very new, I'd suggest you contact SM technical support.
stewer posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 6:58 AM
File a bug with Apple. Since you have access to the developer prerelease, you should also have access to their bugreport site.
muromedia posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 7:27 AM
I will be contacting SM on Monday, but the turnaround time could be weeks.
thanks
bagginsbill posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 8:38 AM
Stewer is Stephan Werner, employed by SM, the engineer who develops major parts of Poser, especially the renderer FireFly.
And I wrote the library GUI.
With Poser running, click on this link from within Safari or whatever browser you're using:
http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png
This is one of the buttons you have missing. If it is working, you get the attached image in your browser. Do you?
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stewer posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 12:45 PM
There is no point in contacting Tech Support until there is a public release of OS X Lion. Right now there are only developer prereleases of Mac OS X Lion, for which neither Apple nor Smith Micro provides customer support. In fact, providing tech support for any beta software from Apple would be a violation of the non-disclosure agreement that one has to agree to in order to get access to Apple's prerelease software.
Since you seem to have access to OS X Lion, I would guess you like everyone else have a non-disclosure agreement with Apple prohibiting you from talking about OS X Lion to anyone.
Miss Nancy posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 2:41 PM
The Lion dev release went gold in the last week or two. There are some earlier releases avail., but do not download nor use any of them, including warez versions alleging to be the final version.
muromedia posted Sun, 17 July 2011 at 7:07 PM
I'm sure we have an NDA we signed at the office, but I doubt it means anything this late in the game with Lion being released with the next 14 days. Can't test anything, left for vacation this morning. The last thing I was able to pinpoint was that adobe air was not communicating with poser. I could drag items to Poser, but could not click the library to change a pose for example. Tried rolling back adobe Air, but no success. Not really import for me, as i'm still with snow leopard for my main machine. But smith micro should look into it. Daz will have some a full plate on it's hands with Lion's real ease, seeing that a lot of the old installers will not work in Lion, because Apple dropped support of Rosetta. Thanks for everyone's help, Will check things out on my return from vacation,
saibabameuk posted Mon, 18 July 2011 at 4:45 AM
Thanks for everyone's help, Will check things out on my return from vacation,
Yep it is the same old problem with new software, I Move in the old days had wonderful effects, it no longer has those.
I think I will wait a long time before using the new Lion, perhaps it's only a Cub.
Have a great holiday.
estherau posted Mon, 18 July 2011 at 6:53 AM
WEll i am surprised it opened at all in poser. looking good.
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
jerr3d posted Mon, 18 July 2011 at 9:21 AM
I imagine the Lion delay was for a reason...
ssgbryan posted Mon, 18 July 2011 at 5:00 PM
Quote - I'm sure we have an NDA we signed at the office, but I doubt it means anything this late in the game with Lion being released with the next 14 days. Can't test anything, left for vacation this morning. The last thing I was able to pinpoint was that adobe air was not communicating with poser. I could drag items to Poser, but could not click the library to change a pose for example. Tried rolling back adobe Air, but no success. Not really import for me, as i'm still with snow leopard for my main machine. But smith micro should look into it. Daz will have some a full plate on it's hands with Lion's real ease, seeing that a lot of the old installers will not work in Lion, because Apple dropped support of Rosetta. Thanks for everyone's help, Will check things out on my return from vacation,
It won't be a problem for DAZ, because they have absolutely no intention of addressing the problem. I have done this dance with them since 2005. They will continue to sell the products with a VISE installer & offer to give you your money back when it doesn't install, just like they do with the products with an OS9 installer (That they STILL sell.)
estherau posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 6:25 AM
I guess they sell so little of older stuff it is not worth their while to update the installers, but I think they should.
On the plus side, you can download the PC installer and either take it to a friend to unpack it or just use crossover (probably wine bottler and wine would open them too - I'm sure those things will get updated in lion). I know it seems a roundabout way to do it but it actually works.
Crossover does not involve installing windows or getting viruses, it just fools the installer into thinking windows is on your mac. It costs money but winebottler and wine are free and will often work (I got the D3D morphing clothes script to work using the free utilities just mentioned, in fact I created a little mor cloth standalone application using these tools)
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
ssgbryan posted Tue, 19 July 2011 at 1:02 PM
Quote - I guess they sell so little of older stuff it is not worth their while to update the installers, but I think they should.
On the plus side, you can download the PC installer and either take it to a friend to unpack it or just use crossover (probably wine bottler and wine would open them too - I'm sure those things will get updated in lion). I know it seems a roundabout way to do it but it actually works.
Crossover does not involve installing windows or getting viruses, it just fools the installer into thinking windows is on your mac. It costs money but winebottler and wine are free and will often work (I got the D3D morphing clothes script to work using the free utilities just mentioned, in fact I created a little mor cloth standalone application using these tools)
Love esther
I had already gone with the wine bottler via your suggestion. What I have done long term is to add 1 last step to my install workflow. All DAZ products get zipped after I create the png files. They are all safely backed up & if I have a HD meltdown, it is easier to recover.
Basis3D posted Wed, 20 July 2011 at 3:45 PM
Darn! I was hoping to install Lion in a few days but now it looks like I'll be sticking with Snow Leopard.
ssgbryan, I have had really good response from Jared Nielson of DAZ Tech Support regarding products that came in OS9 installers. Jared emailed converted files which I then installed manually.
Since then though I've figured out that it's easy just to download the PC version, switch to Windows on my hybrid Mac, run the installer and then transfer the files back over to the Mac and manually install them.
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
estherau posted Wed, 20 July 2011 at 8:35 PM
well lion is out now. Any luck with poser and lion?
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
ssgbryan posted Wed, 20 July 2011 at 9:13 PM
Quote - Darn! I was hoping to install Lion in a few days but now it looks like I'll be sticking with Snow Leopard.
ssgbryan, I have had really good response from Jared Nielson of DAZ Tech Support regarding products that came in OS9 installers. Jared emailed converted files which I then installed manually.
Since then though I've figured out that it's easy just to download the PC version, switch to Windows on my hybrid Mac, run the installer and then transfer the files back over to the Mac and manually install them.
The issue is you won't know whether or not the installer will work until after you have purchased it. I shouldn't have to contact ANYBODY. It isn't like they didn't know about the problem, they just didn't want to address it. Yet one more example of bad DAZ business practices.
nemesis10 posted Wed, 20 July 2011 at 11:41 PM
Okay, I did the Lion installation this morning and open Poser as my first program... It was painfully slow at first. It was enough that I fretted about restoring my backup and doing the upgrade later. When i returned, I tried again and it was more than fine. The library menu clearly has a minor issue or two but I can live with it. I should confess that I use an aditional third party library tool along with Poser 8's library. Carrara Pro was stunning.... Bryce was troublesome and wouldn't quit properly but nothing I can't live with. Groboto was fine and I was too scared to try Hexagon. The upshot is that I am sticking with Lion.
Eric Walters posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 12:15 AM
I am sticking with 10.5.9 until PoserPro2012 comes out-for these same reasons. Thanks for the warning- I'd best buy Snow Kitty soon!
ratscloset posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 9:52 AM
The Icon Issue with the Library is due to the new OS. The Mouse Over still works, so if you forgot the order of the Icons, you can still figure it out...
The bigger issue is Activation. Changes in permissions with the new OS require some special steps to Activate.
BEFORE launching your freshly-installed copy of Poser (Debut, Poser 8 or Pro 2010), browse into the root Library/Application Support folder and create a folder for your copy of Poser- 'Poser', 'Poser Pro', or 'Poser Debut'. You'll need to provide an admin password to do this.
Launch and serialize Poser normally- you won't be able to see the category icons in the library pane but the mouseover category names should work.
1a. If you have launched Poser and entered a serial number and are now seeing Poser crash on launch, the first thing to do is to open System Preferences, go to the General pane and turn off the 'launch to previous state' option.
2a. Now go create the 'Poser', 'Poser Pro' or 'Poser Debut' folder as described in (1) above
3a. Launch and serialize Poser
4a. Now if you like you can reactivate Lion's 'launch to previous state' option.
Anyone that encounters other issues, please contact Support with the details. Put Attn: John, Lion OS Issue in the Subject.
ratscloset
aka John
estherau posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 5:31 AM
"Okay, I did the Lion installation this morning and open Poser as my first program... It was painfully slow at first. It was enough that I fretted about restoring my backup and doing the upgrade later. When i returned, I tried again and it was more than fine. The library menu clearly has a minor issue or two but I can live with it. "
probably everything would have been slow initially. It was probably due to spotlight indexing in the background.
I don't think we would need to reinstall poser, the OS should just install over the top of our old OS.
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
nemesis10 posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 10:51 AM
So Far, my list of of problem items include: that library problem, wonky camera controls, and I seem to have lost the ability have Carrara import my saved Poser stuff..
ratscloset posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 12:35 PM
Contact Support with steps to duplicate the Camera Issue. Had another user report the issue, but after checking for updates for his input device (changed device because there were no Lion Drivers available) the Camera Issue was no longer present.
Make the Subject Attn: John.. Lion Camera Issue..
For the Carrara Issue, is that something wrong with the saved files, Carrara, or Lion itself..
ratscloset
aka John
A_Sunbeam posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 3:05 PM
Quote - It won't be a problem for DAZ, because they have absolutely no intention of addressing the problem. I have done this dance with them since 2005. They will continue to sell the products with a VISE installer & offer to give you your money back when it doesn't install, just like they do with the products with an OS9 installer (That they STILL sell.)
I still have my old Mac with OS 8.6, so I open the Vise installer on that, run the installer to Poser 4, and then move the files I want across to my G5. I think they should update their VISE stuff, there must be an awful lot of people who don't have access to an older Mac with its pre-OSX system
pokeitwithastick posted Sat, 23 July 2011 at 10:27 AM
Quote - 1. BEFORE launching your freshly-installed copy of Poser (Debut, Poser 8 or Pro 2010), browse into the root Library/Application Support folder and create a folder for your copy of Poser- 'Poser', 'Poser Pro', or 'Poser Debut'. You'll need to provide an admin password to do this. 2. Launch and serialize Poser normally- you won't be able to see the category icons in the library pane but the mouseover category names should work.
This worked like a charm in a new (downloaded) install of Poser 8 under OSX lion on my MacBook Pro. Thank you, John! -)
Now let the learning curve Begin!
~~ Terry
Basis3D posted Sat, 23 July 2011 at 11:15 PM
Has anybody tested Poser 8 or 2010 under Lion and found that any of the third party scripts no longer work or have some kind of problems in Lion?
I'm particularly interested in finding out if RDNA's Shaderworks scripts still work in Lion. A couple of them are essential to my workflow and I'll have to stick with Snow Leopard if they no longer function correctly in Lion.
Thanks in advance,
dkal
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
estherau posted Sun, 24 July 2011 at 12:27 AM
I feel the same way dkal because I make my comics with shaderworks! (I'm still on SL)
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
Basis3D posted Sun, 24 July 2011 at 11:27 AM
bagginsbill...
After reading your post (above) about the missing icons I'm wondering if you know whether a fix will be coming soon for Poser in Lion.
Thanks,
dkal
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
bagginsbill posted Sun, 24 July 2011 at 11:53 AM
Nobody answered my question, and there is no bug report about this in SM's bug tracker.
So - officially and unofficially I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what there is to do regarding fixing it. I mean, I see this thread, but you know everything I know. How do I fix it?
I am not going to install Lion on my Mac. I cannot afford to have any of my development tools mysteriously stop working. I will wait a year.
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bagginsbill posted Sun, 24 July 2011 at 12:22 PM
Quote - With Poser running, click on this link from within Safari or whatever browser you're using:
http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png
This is one of the buttons you have missing. If it is working, you get the attached image in your browser. Do you?
I repeat my question. When you click the URL for one of the missing images, do you get the image? What happens? Depending on the answer, I will ask different questions and follow different possibilities.
If nobody does this first test, there will be no resolution from me.
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Basis3D posted Sun, 24 July 2011 at 2:16 PM
Understood.
I was referring to the missing button icon issue reported by muromedia in the first post of this thread. That was with a pre-release version of Lion way back in March. Not sure if it got fixed in the release version though. Even if it didn't get fixed it's not a major issue, just an annoyance. That, in itself, wouldn't stop me from upgrading to Lion.
On another note, Basil from Shaderworks sent me an email saying that third party scripts should have no trouble working in Lion from what he understands.
Thank you,
dkal
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
steepleton posted Sun, 24 July 2011 at 3:29 PM
Quote - > Quote - With Poser running, click on this link from within Safari or whatever browser you're using:
http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png
This is one of the buttons you have missing. If it is working, you get the attached image in your browser. Do you?
I repeat my question. When you click the URL for one of the missing images, do you get the image? What happens? Depending on the answer, I will ask different questions and follow different possibilities.
If nobody does this first test, there will be no resolution from me.
if i click on that url i get the image of the folder icon (running lion and have the library glitch)
PaulZolo posted Mon, 25 July 2011 at 10:36 AM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - With Poser running, click on this link from within Safari or whatever browser you're using:
http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png
This is one of the buttons you have missing. If it is working, you get the attached image in your browser. Do you?
I repeat my question. When you click the URL for one of the missing images, do you get the image? What happens? Depending on the answer, I will ask different questions and follow different possibilities.
If nobody does this first test, there will be no resolution from me.
if i click on that url i get the image of the folder icon (running lion and have the library glitch)
Same here.
bagginsbill posted Mon, 25 July 2011 at 11:03 AM
OK. So we know that the URL of the images works, and a browser can retrieve them from Poser's application server.
Now it appears that the library GUI is not being allowed to read them. I suspect that this is a Flash "trusted application" problem.
Flash applications that are in the local sandbox are not allowed to go to any network address, even a local one, unless they are identified as trusted. I don't know why. This is a really stupid rule. I'm wondering if a change in the OS has caused the mechanism of trusted app identification to be different than it used to be, or to fail to work.
I was Googling to see if anything had been written about Flash trusted applications being somehow different or broken in Lion but I didn't find anything. What I did find is that application preferences are now a bit more hidden or protected than they used to be. I don't really know enough to say anything smart about this.
Anybody else got anything to add on this particular topic?
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bagginsbill posted Mon, 25 July 2011 at 11:10 AM
Attached Link: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager04.html
The Poser installer normally handles registering its library GUI as a trusted Flash app. However, the mechanism used may be changed or not applicable under Lion.Perhaps doing the work yourself, via the linked dialog box (yes your Flash security settings are configured by a dialog served from Adobe), may do the trick.
The folder you want to mark for trust is usually:
Macintosh HD / Applications / Poser xyz (your version here) / Runtime / ui / Flex / LSMGUI / bin-release
You'll know you're in the right place if in there you see LSMGUI.html and LSMGUI.swf.
Another thing you might try is to launch Poser, and then actually run that LSMGUI.html file in your browser. It might work.
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hairydalek posted Mon, 25 July 2011 at 12:20 PM
HI,
trued giving trust to that folder in the Flash dialog. No luck. Also tried these in the Terminal:
codesign -f -s - /path/to/bin-release/swf files
and
codesign -f -s - /path/to/Poser Library App
thinkng that would help, but, again, no luck. Opening the HTML file in Safari fails to display the icons either.
bagginsbill posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 6:50 AM
codesign signs the file, right? I'm not talking about signing, although that might matter as well.
I'm talking about the self-imposed sandbox model that Flash applies to any app it runs. It has to be a "local trusted" application. It cannot be "remote", "local with file system", or "local with network". It has to be local trusted.
Part of the problem here is that Adobe is adding to confusion in their documentation. They talk about giving an app permission to use the Internet. But the restriction is larger than that, and the permission we need is much smaller. We do not need permission to talk to the Internet. We need permission to talk to a local web service via the loopback address.
What I suggested was to use the dialog at the link, above, to go to the Flash player settings and change them. If you don't understand that, or don't understand why we're doing that, then please read this.
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/093/4c093f20.html
Then use the dialog at the link and tell me what you did and what happened.
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bagginsbill posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 6:55 AM
Poser uses and installs a Flash player trusted configuration file. It worked before Lion. Perhaps it is still working. Perhaps not.
(e.g. c:WINNTsystem32MacromedFlashFlashPlayerTrust)
(e.g. c:Documents and SettingsfredApplication DataMacromediaFlash Player#SecurityFlashPlayerTrust)
(e.g. /Library/Application Support/Macromedia/FlashPlayerTrust)
(e.g. /Users/fred/Library/Preferences/Macromedia/Flash Player/#Security/FlashPlayerTrust)
These locations are directories, not individual files. Any number of configuration files may be installed in each of these directories; Flash Player will read all files it finds in them. Configuration files may not be placed in subdirectories of FlashPlayerTrust; they must be placed directly in the FlashPlayerTrust directories. The individual configuration files may be given any name but, to avoid naming conflicts, installers should name their configuration files in some way that is specific to their product. The FlashPlayerTrust directories will not necessarily exist on any given system, so installers may need to create them.
The syntax of these files is simple: They contain any number of local paths, one per line. Whitespace and blank lines are allowed. Comments can be included with the # character; these comments go to the end of a line. Quotes are unnecessary (and will cause problems) for paths that contain spaces.
These files contain filesystem paths, which on some users' computers may include non-ASCII characters, so the text encoding used in FlashPlayerTrust files is significant. Flash Player will look for Unicode byte-order mark characters at the beginnings of these files, and will recognize UTF-8 and UTF-16 byte order marks, treating the rest of the file as UTF-8 or UTF-16 accordingly. (Windows Notepad and Mac TextEdit, for example, can write Unicode text files containing these byte-order mark characters; many other text editors can as well.) If Flash Player does not find a byte-order mark character at the beginning of a FlashPlayerTrust file, it will interpret the file using the current "codepage" (default local encoding) of the computer.
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bagginsbill posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 7:04 AM
Oh man I'm ticked off with my Mac.
I was going into the trusted config area to check how these files look. The file is called PoserPro2010Trust.cfg. I renamed it so it would open in a text editor; PoserPro2010Trust.cfg.txt. Now it will not let me rename it back to what it was. It says I don't have permission.
So I copied it to another folder. I rename it to remove the .txt. Then I try to copy it back and it says it is already there. No it isn't - they have different names. But the stupid computer for babies claims that these two files are both txt files and will not let me put either one back to what it was before I made the first change.
I hate Mac OS - take this baby shit and shove it.
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hairydalek posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 7:13 AM
Quote - Oh man I'm ticked off with my Mac.
I was going into the trusted config area to check how these files look. The file is called PoserPro2010Trust.cfg. I renamed it so it would open in a text editor; PoserPro2010Trust.cfg.txt. Now it will not let me rename it back to what it was. It says I don't have permission.
So I copied it to another folder. I rename it to remove the .txt. Then I try to copy it back and it says it is already there. No it isn't - they have different names. But the stupid computer for babies claims that these two files are both txt files and will not let me put either one back to what it was before I made the first change.
I hate Mac OS - take this baby shit and shove it.
You will really like Lion then. Apple decided that it’s best if you can’t see your library file. Imagine the shock when I couldn’t see it in my user folder.
Anyway, your post about the trusted files stuff is interesting - I’m going to dig into my Snow Leopard backup (alway,s do this peopl - take a back up before upgrading the OS) and see if there are any differences.
bagginsbill posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 7:22 AM
Well thank goodness there is still a real man's UI - terminal. I was able to fix the file name.
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pokeitwithastick posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 7:59 AM
Quote - You will really like Lion then. Apple decided that it’s best if you can’t see your library file. Imagine the shock when I couldn’t see it in my user folder.
This is a bit OT, but there’s a quick workaround for restoring the visibility (and utility) of the user Library in Lion.
Turn on View Path Bar in Finder, then navigate to the user Library using Go | Go to folder | ~/Library.
Once opened drag the Library icon from the path Bar into the Favorites section of the sidebar. Now it’s handy again. :-)
pokeitwithastick posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 8:05 AM
You can also Alt-click the Go menu and it will appear in the drop-down menu. HTH
hairydalek posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 8:07 AM
Quote - Well thank goodness there is still a real man's UI - terminal. I was able to fix the file name.
Odd that you are getting this problem. I can go into just about any file with BBEdit (or its free sibling TextWrangler) and edit them, even files without .txt extensioms. The File>Get Info window in Finder will let you set permissions for the file if you want to edit it.
Anyway, looking at my SnowLeopard backup, the .cfg files you mentioned are the same, so the Lion install hasn’t messed with those Flash settings.
I have tried installing Flash 10.3, which gives you a system prefereces control panel for editing settings (instead of going to the Macromedia domain), and explicitly gave it the .swf file as well as the bin-release folder. I noted an Acrobat trust file does this explicitly, so I thought that if Adobe does this, then surely it’s some kind of example to follow (yeah, I know).
I added these lines to the .cfg file for good measure:
/Applications/Poser Pro 2010/Downloads/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.swf
/Applications/Poser Pro 2010/Downloads/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.html
Still no change though.
bagginsbill posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 8:16 AM
Thanks HD. So that's not it.
At the moment I can't think of what else to look at. Nothing I'm familiar with fits the facts:
We can load and see one of the icons directly in a Browser. It's not firewalled, the Poser server has the right port open, and we can grab the icon data.
We can NOT load and see the same icon (or any other) from within the Flash app hosted in the same browser or a Poser embedded browser.
The same worked fine before the OS change.
I tentatively would guess that Apple explicitly did something to reject a network request from a Flash application. But that seems absurd.
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hairydalek posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 8:48 AM
Just out of interest - where is the physical location of this file on my hard drive?
http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png
It may be Apple blocking something in Flash, and I’m wondering if the permissions for that location are wrong or could be adjusted to be readable in some fashion.
bagginsbill posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 9:08 AM
It doesn't exist as a file. It is read by Poser from a PSD file containing hundreds of icons, parsed out as a layer, and delivered to the GUI as if it was a file on its own.
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pauljtaylor posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 4:31 PM
Okay, attempt at the icon fix.
I tried opening just http://127.0.0.1 in Safari, and that didn't work. Looks like Lion switched off Web Sharing. Flipped it back on, and http://127.0.0.1 says "It works!" No place like home!
Entered http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png into Safari. No love. "Safari can't connect to the server. Safari can't open the page "http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png" because Safari can't connect to the server "127.0.0.1".
I tried just http://127.0.0.1:11530, and I get the same error message. http://127.0.0.1:80 works. http://127.0.0.1/~paul (which is my user name) works... I get the "Your website" page from my Home "Sites" folder.
Checked the Firewall in the "Security & Privacy" settings. It is off.
Tried Firefox and Google Chrome. Can't connect that way, either.
Tried using my internal IP number instead of 127.0.0.1. Same results as above: was able to connect to port 80, not to 11530. Tried using the word localhost, same results as above.
I can see the PNG icons in Poser's Runtime/ui/Flex/ContentLibrary/assets folder, and the ui folder is fully populated with PSD's and XML's.
grichter posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 5:18 PM
to make all files and folders in the library visable all the time, from terminal try:
chflags nohidden ~/Library
Other variants are described in
http://gothick.org.uk/2011/07/19/revealing-lions-hidden-library-folder/
Gary
"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"
bagginsbill posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 5:21 PM
There's a Flex ContentLibrary assets folder?!? I didn't realize they had exploded out the files. So maybe they are really there after all.
When you tried the 11530 port, you did have Poser running, right?
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pauljtaylor posted Tue, 26 July 2011 at 5:32 PM
A ha! No, I didn't. So the server's not running. Insert blush here.
With Poser actually running, yes, the folder icon shows up.
I've opened Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.html directly in Safari (yes, with Poser running this time), and I'm getting the whole sidebar without icons thing.
I opened http://127.0.0.1:11530/ in Safari, and it's showing only the following: a directory called nonVirtualAssets, a file called crossdomain.xml, and Mac OS's .DS_Store file.
I opened http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets in Safari, and it appears empty. I don't know if that was the case in Snow Leopard, but trying everything.
Also, when I open Poser Pro, I get the following error:
XML parsing error: 'no element found' at line 1
Related?
pauljtaylor posted Wed, 27 July 2011 at 8:53 PM
Continuing the investigation:
It appears as though Poser creates a web server on the localhost on port 11530. That server root directory appears to be Runtime/ui/Flex/serverRoot/
If I open that directory in the finder, all I see is a nonVirtualAssets folder and a crossdomain.xml file. It looks as though there should be an assets folder in here, too, yes? Yet, despite its absense, I can still see http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addLibraryButton.png
A Spotlight search on my entire drive for addLibraryButton.png yields nothing.
Running LSMGUI.html in Safari without Poser running indicates that the Flex is looking for a Python script: http://127.0.0.1:11530/apps/lms/api.py
Upgraded Python to 3.2.1, just in case Lion's pre-packaged version is incompatible. No dice.
Tried this: downloaded the addLibraryButton.png graphic, created a folder in serverRoot called "assets," and dropped it in. Ran Poser. The icon didn't show up, but it didn't show its "broken link" placeholder, either... it's just missing.
Uh-oh: after upgrading Python, my Runtime no longer shows up in the Lbirary tab... just "Downloads." I can still load things from my Favorites tab, tho, so they're still there. I try using the Search tab and... whoops. Typing into the Search text box puts two characters in for every keypress (typing Victoria results in VViiccttoorriiaa), and trying to search on that produces the following error:
XML parsing error: 'not well-formed (invalid token)' at line 5
Ugh... what a mess.
pauljtaylor posted Wed, 27 July 2011 at 8:56 PM
Well, good news is, got the Runtime to show up again... couldn't see the "Show Library" field, but it's there. Changed it to "
pauljtaylor posted Wed, 27 July 2011 at 9:20 PM
This is all falling under "knows just enough to do some damage:"
Popped open the Poser app using "Show Contents." This virtual server that it's running appears to be wx 2.8? Google is coughing up some stress between Lion and wx... something to do with Lion being 64-bit and wx being Carbon 32-bit? It appears as though an upgrade to 2.9 could help? I don't know if I'm feeling that adventurous...
bagginsbill posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 12:12 AM
The file api.py doesn't exist. The URL's you're looking at, for the most part, are virtual.
The Poser application server is not a web server. It's an application server. That means that strings map to procedures, not files. Hitting one of them invokes a procedure. Those procedures may, in turn, cough up a file, or may do a calculation.
As I said, even if there is an assets folder, I do not think the assets necessarily come from there. The only images I see in my installation are the category icons, and those are not being served to the GUI. The ones in the GUI are yellow when you select them.
The GUI icons are layers in a PSD file, and are extracted by a procedure associated with the asset URL.
Similarly, the api.py is associated with a procedure and has nothing to do with an api.py file. In early development, I prototyped the server as an actual Python script, and the URL remained as an artifact of that early form of server. But the production server is embedded in Poser, not some external script file.
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pauljtaylor posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 8:33 AM
So it looks like the applicaiton server software is wx/wxPython? If so, that might be the snag. Version 2.8 (which it looks like Poser is using) is 32-bit Carbon, which apparently won't work in Lion. Version 2.9 introduced a 32/64-bit Cocoa flavor that apparently is Lion-friendly. I optimistically downloaded wx 2.9 and tried to swap out all of the scripts in the Poser .app file with the 2.9 versions -- hoping for a simple temporary work-around -- but Poser was having none of it.
estherau posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 8:40 AM
Is it just the library as the problem? Because I note that semidieu has put an update to his library at rdna so maybe that would work with poser in lion.
Love esther
PS I'm still too scared to install lion even though I downloaded it. I can't be without my poser and my python scripts.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
bagginsbill posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 8:49 AM
Quote - So it looks like the applicaiton server software is wx/wxPython?
wx is a GUI library. It's not got anything to do with the app server. wxPython is the Python version of wx and there is no Python code in the server. Only the prototype was Python. There is no api.py - that's just a leftover name.
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estherau posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 8:54 AM
so if I install lion will my library (or semidieu's library) work, and will my python scripts work in poser pro 2010? anybody know?
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
an0malaus posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 11:05 AM
Doing an Option(Right)-click on any of the icons in Safari gives an About Adobe Flash Player 10.3.181.34... popup, but Firefox/Chrome give About Adobe Flash Player 10.3.181.35... popups. I seem to remember somewhere that one of the differences between Firefox, Chrome and Safari was whether they used statically or dynamically linked versions of the Flash Player (I may have that wrong). If so, that may be one of the requirements broken in Poser by the 10.7 OS upgrade.
On the licensing issue, my upgrade-in-place to Lion forced several applications to require their serial numbers to be re-entered, though I had no particular problems with Poser other than the Library Icons.
I tried changing the Poser prefs to use the external library rather than embedded, but had no change in the broken icons in the AIR version from the embedded. I was prompted to install an update to AIR, but that didn't seem to make a difference. [NOTE: I haven't rebooted my system yet since that update, though]
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saibabameuk posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 11:27 AM
Quote - so if I install lion will my library (or semidieu's library) work, and will my python scripts work in poser pro 2010? anybody know?
Love esther
I think somebody who has technical abilities should let those of us who have no tech ability know weather Poser 2010 and or Poser 8 works with the New Mac Lion software.
Mac will of course say we do not give help with third party software.
Until I know Poser works with Lion , Mac can keep Lion software.
Think about it estherau, all that time you can waist with lots of glitches.
an0malaus posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 11:43 AM
Here's an excerpt from my Safari Activity window after loading LSMGUI.html [file size & Server Error added manually]
file:///Applications/Poser%20Pro%202010/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/AC_OETags.js
file:///Applications/Poser%20Pro%202010/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/history/history.css
file:///Applications/Poser%20Pro%202010/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/history/history.js
file:///Applications/Poser%20Pro%202010/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.html#
file:///Applications/Poser%20Pro%202010/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.swf
http://127.0.0.1:11530/apps/lms/api.py 3.8 KB
...[100s of lines deleted]...
http://127.0.0.1:11530/apps/lms/api.py 1.2 KB
http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/addButton.png Server Error
...[100s of lines deleted]...
http://127.0.0.1:11530/assets/upButtonImage.png Server Error
http://127.0.0.1:11530/nonVirtualAssets/tab_tail.png 0.3 KB
http://www.contentparadise.com/api/search_params.aspx 7.5 KB
I can double-click on any of the lines "assets/XXX.png" and safari will open a window and successfully display the relevant icon. Maybe this indicates some kind of permissions/ACL (access control list) error within the flash player for the assets folder.
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nemesis10 posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 4:57 PM
Having used Poser 8 on Lion since day one, I haven't really run into any problems I can't overcome. The obvious problems I have run into are the above mentioned library glitch (though the library is still workable, problems with the eyedropper, and occasional rare onetime glitches which seem to have decreased with time (an occasional saved work copy). Alll in all, I don't find that it has messed up my workflow and all of my scripts seem to work fine. rendering speed seems to be the same or faster, Carrara and Poser seem to working fine, Bryce is, well, Bryce... I haven't opened Hexagon yet.
estherau posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 6:36 PM
nemesis10 do your python scripts for poser work?
Love esther
PS saibabameuk the temptation gets stronger every day. I don't know how much longer I can resist it.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
pauljtaylor posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 7:43 PM
Intersting experiment result:
Tried loading file:///Applications/Poser%20Pro%202010/Runtime/ui/Flex/LSMGUI/bin-release/LSMGUI.html in various browsers in Lion.
Safari 5.1 + Flash 10.3.181.34: BROKEN
Firefox 5.01 + Flash 10.3.181.34: WORKS
Chrome 12.0.742.122 + Flash 10.3.181.35: WORKS
Anyway, I went ahead and tried to load content in Chrome by double-clicking a figure. I got one XML error message... but from that point on, Poser loaded content from Chrome! I guess a workaround for now is to use a Chrome window with LSMGUI.html as your Library. I might actually prefer having it in its own separate app!
pauljtaylor posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 8:00 PM
As an aside, I gavve Hexagon 2.3 a shot. It appears to be a PowerPC application, and will not work in Lion.
an0malaus posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 10:50 PM
Lion's attempt to restore windows for Poser seems to cause some confusion about poser documents double-clicked in the Finder. Poser offers to save the document you're attempting to open. Launching Poser also calls the opened document preferredState.pz3 rather than Untitled.pz3.
I did also notice the Eye Dropper screwiness in the Materials Room in Poser Pro 2010. All of my Python scripts work fine as far as I've tested.
Hexagon 2.5.1.52 is the latest Universal binary release and it works as well as Hexagon has ever worked since OS X 10.5.
Rebooting my system since updating Adobe AIR has still made no difference to the broken icons in Poser embedded or AIR Libraries or Safari.
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Basis3D posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 10:55 PM
Attached Link: Roaring Apps Link
estherau...I haven't installed Lion yet but I did email Basil (semidieu) and he said that there should be no problem with his python scripts in Lion.
I'm going to hold off upgrading to Lion due to some other software incompatibilities.
Here's the best place to go to check software compatibility and Lion...
http://roaringapps.com/
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
estherau posted Thu, 28 July 2011 at 11:17 PM
thanks dkal, I couldn't see poser pro 2010 on that list.
Good news about the python scripts as my whole poser happiness depends on semidieu scripts.
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
Basis3D posted Fri, 29 July 2011 at 10:52 AM
You are right, estherau, Poser Pro 2010 is not specifically listed (yet) at roaringapps.com. Only Poser 8 is listed.
That website is a wiki so that just means that nobody running Lion has added Poser Pro 2010. Perhaps someone here in this thread would like to add Poser Pro 2010 at roaringapps.com?
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
Basis3D posted Fri, 29 July 2011 at 10:54 AM
Quote - Bryce is, well, Bryce...
LOL
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
hairydalek posted Fri, 29 July 2011 at 11:45 AM
Quote - Anyway, I went ahead and tried to load content in Chrome by double-clicking a figure. I got one XML error message... but from that point on, Poser loaded content from Chrome! I guess a workaround for now is to use a Chrome window with LSMGUI.html as your Library. I might actually prefer having it in its own separate app!
Good find! I rather like this as a solution. It seems faster on scrolling than the edefault Poser library window, and as a bonus, you can run Chrome full screen and swap between it and Poser nicely.
pauljtaylor posted Fri, 29 July 2011 at 1:13 PM
Although probably a discussion for another thread, the Hexagon .1.52 public beta is no longer available for download, and the latest stable-release (2.5.05) will neither install nor boot under Lion. I even purchased the 2.5 Upgrade version today as an experiment. No go.
estherau posted Fri, 29 July 2011 at 6:11 PM
Attached Link: http://www.avforums.com/forums/apple-mac/1491930-virtualbox-lion-running-snowleopard-guestos.html
Paul, maybe this will help you since you sound quite desperate to use hexagon.VirtualBox in Lion Running SnowLeopard As GuestOS
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
DalekSupreme posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 12:43 AM
Using firefox for my library and it seems to work fine. Must be the poser library is the issue with the flash thingie... see how technical I am!
saibabameuk posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 2:13 AM
Quote - Using firefox for my library and it seems to work fine. Must be the poser library is the issue with the flash thingie... see how technical I am!
Hi are you saying that you have loaded the Lion programe and you are having no issues with Lion and that Poser 2010 is working fine?
DalekSupreme posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 4:23 AM
I am using lion, and now use firefox as my library once Poser Pro 2010 is open and I get the full library with the correct layout and icons. I have used it to load the content and it worked.
saibabameuk posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 11:02 AM
Thats what I wanted to here! are you sure?
This is not another joke dr to dr who?
You see don't get me wrong but I never trusted a Dalek in my life.
DalekSupreme posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 3:17 PM
Lol! I, fortunately for you Terran, have the "human factor". Well it works for me in firefox fixing the icons thats all I can say... It does not work in Safari, so it must be something in the way poser and safari use flash. Now back to being the supreme beings in the universe!
bagginsbill posted Mon, 01 August 2011 at 3:26 PM
Webkit is the actual HTML rendering engine behind Poser (on the Mac) and Safari, so it's no surprise they are both experiencing the same change introduced by Lion. Both the Poser Library, and the Poser Content room, are implemented via Webkit.
When Poser is on a Windows PC, Webkit is not there - instead the core HTML engine of IE is used, which is why Poser and IE also share configuration settings and experience similar or identical problems when something isn't right, just as Poser and Safari are both showing a difference under Lion.
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DalekSupreme posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 1:07 AM
Now that makes alot of sense Bagginsbill, maybe this is part of the ongoing flash/mac dispute? Who knows!
Thanks to Pauljtaylor for bringing up this firefox solution... I know Icons are a small thing but it does make Poser alot easier to use.
saibabameuk posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 3:14 AM
Quote - Now that makes alot of sense Bagginsbill, maybe this is part of the ongoing flash/mac dispute? Who knows!
Thanks to Pauljtaylor for bringing up this firefox solution... I know Icons are a small thing but it does make Poser alot easier to use.
Ok Guys to keep simple for the old guy, I can download Tiger however I need to use Fire Fox as my browser? is that right ?
It has taken me so long to use Poser as an animation tool I just do not want to screw it all up again.
estherau posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 4:21 AM
wrong cat, it's lion. let me know if it works for you. (I haven't done it yet)
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
saibabameuk posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 4:30 AM
purrrrrrrrrrrrr
bagginsbill posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 6:28 AM
Why are you so interested in Lion? It doesn't offer anything important to people who are used to computers and are comfortable working with files.
Lion is going to make your computer more like iPad, and IMO that's a bad thing.
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DalekSupreme posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 6:41 AM
Interesting point... But for me I love my iPad and Lion makes my pc even more fun to use. I accept your point about familiarity, however anything that makes the interface more human is great.
saibabameuk posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 6:48 AM
Quote - Why are you so interested in Lion? It doesn't offer anything important to people who are used to computers and are comfortable working with files.
Lion is going to make your computer more like iPad, and IMO that's a bad thing.
It is simple ,I found in the past Apple update there programme say , Leopard , Snow Leopard, then they right software that will not allow you to use any but the latest software.
I lost so much software when they stopped , compatibility in the past."Classic" Mac OS
is a case.
I had to scrap my scanner and other hard ware.Found i could not get into old data, that sort of thing.
So if i keep up to date , I make sure that all my software is compatible.
I know you get uptight with us, sim i literate's but we do try!.
However I will take what you have said on board as always, your bloody good at all this stuff. thanks
estherau posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 5:47 PM
Quote:- "Why are you so interested in Lion?"
I've heard lots of good things about it, and I am hoping (I have nothing to base this on) that it will be faster for photoshop, vue and poser, and snappier all round.
I love my mac and I have always been happy in the past with OS upgrades.
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
bagginsbill posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 6:28 PM
I assumed that you'd heard good things about it - that is not an explanation of why you care. It can be safely assumed you care because there is something good about it.
I'm asking - what is that? What improvement do you expect to experience? So far I've only read bad things - things that people who use computers as computers, and not sophisticated readers, find is a step down.
And it's buggy.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3230110?start=0&tstart=0
http://rhftech.com/blog/2011/07/mac-os-x-lion-it-just-works-sometimes/
http://www.viewshound.com/technology/2011/6/mac-os-x-107-lion-the-death-knell-of-the-mac-as-we
http://cyrilmazur.com/2011/07/is-osx-lion-a-joke.html
http://prconnections.net/comments-on-mac-os-x-lion/
http://labs.eweek.com/archives/lion-leaves-a-bad-taste
http://www.urtech.ca/2011/07/i-dont-like-mac-os-x-lion/
So many compatibility problems - this line from one of those articles scares me.
Quote - Apple is very quick to dump technology and let its users suffer.
As I said, I can't afford to have anything stop working. So I am not switching.
I have a MacBook Pro and an iPad. I love my iPad. I would not love my MacBook if it behaved like the iPad. In fact, I'm annoyed by many things in the MacBook. For example, when I click on a zip file, I don't want it to unzip it I want to see inside. I certainly do not want it to unzip 15 copies as I have found it does if I click that zip file 15 times. Computers for idiots are cool, but I'm not an idiot.
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estherau posted Tue, 02 August 2011 at 6:45 PM
there is no one single "can't do without" feature, but I read about lots of little enhancements. And I like to keep up to date with my OSs. I always have done it that way in the past, and I trust apple to bring out something good.
You are right. The reality is I don't actually need it, but I have the feeling that I want it. Time will tell if that feeling is a mistake because as soon as I know that my essential software will work then I will upgrade. (i've bought it already but just not installed as yet).
Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
madcj11 posted Wed, 03 August 2011 at 2:54 PM
Recently bought poser pro 2010 - just getting used to it. Had poser 7 on a vaio, no problems.
Have now just purchased a macbook pro to use with programs like this, and really enjoy this new experience...... I have updated to Lion and it is stressful that some programs have conflictions - but hell having used windows for so long - you get used to it
All I would like is for any technical user in this forum to advise how to fix the library glitch please ??
Just seems your all digressing from the topic to pick faults in computer manufacturers.....
bit lame dont you agree ??
bagginsbill posted Wed, 03 August 2011 at 4:31 PM
Nobody knows how to fix it. I wrote the Poser library, but I didn't write Flash, or Webkit, or Lion, and so I have no idea why this isn't working, but it does have something to do with one of those three other things.
I asked SM management about it, but they're a little busy right now, and all I got was something mumbled about strict headers or something. Not enough to go on for a fix.
SIGGRAPH 2011 starts in a few days. Graphics teams have to focus on that or die. So we will have to let SM have a little time to come back to this problem.
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estherau posted Wed, 03 August 2011 at 7:21 PM
okay, thanks. I will wait.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
estherau posted Wed, 03 August 2011 at 7:24 PM
but what about the semidieu library? If that is the only problem with poser pro 2010 maybe the semidieu library would be an option. I noticed he upgraded the library just recently (maybe so it works in lion?) anybody know?
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
mamba-negra posted Thu, 04 August 2011 at 9:41 PM
Adobe has admitted that there are dozens of issues with their software under lion. They act like they are Lion bugs, but they are probably a combination of errors that just didn't show up before because of luck and maybe some policy changes apple made (which this is probably caused by). In the end, they are problems that exist with adobe software. In this case, it will probably be fixed with an update to Air, since it probably affects a lot more than Poser.
Basis3D posted Thu, 04 August 2011 at 10:19 PM
estherau,
I believe that the new Shaderwork's Library Manager was updated because semidieu (Basil) added the new Runtimes Manager feature. Doubtful that Basil updated it for Lion. He has told me that he sees no reason for any of his scripts to break in Lion.
I'm not updating to Lion for a long time to come. Not because of the Poser GUI issue. Because there are incompatibilities with other software. I wish I could update now to Lion solely for the new versioning feature which sounds amazing!
Best of luck to you if you take the Lion plunge. Let us know how it goes.
dkal
Poser 2010 • Poser 8 • MacPro Desktop • Quad-Core Intel Xeon • 10 GB • Snow Leopard • Windows XP
musicmajor111 posted Fri, 05 August 2011 at 5:47 AM
Quote - > Quote - I'm sure we have an NDA we signed at the office, but I doubt it means anything this late in the game with Lion being released with the next 14 days. Can't test anything, left for vacation this morning. The last thing I was able to pinpoint was that adobe air was not communicating with poser. I could drag items to Poser, but could not click the library to change a pose for example. Tried rolling back adobe Air, but no success. Not really import for me, as i'm still with snow leopard for my main machine. But smith micro should look into it. Daz will have some a full plate on it's hands with Lion's real ease, seeing that a lot of the old installers will not work in Lion, because Apple dropped support of Rosetta. Thanks for everyone's help, Will check things out on my return from vacation,
It won't be a problem for DAZ, because they have absolutely no intention of addressing the problem. I have done this dance with them since 2005. They will continue to sell the products with a VISE installer & offer to give you your money back when it doesn't install, just like they do with the products with an OS9 installer (That they STILL sell.)
I guess DAZ's "solution" is to offer all the old OS9 and VISE installer items in "Buy It All Vault Sets," and then they will perhaps shortly discontinue these items altogether?
ssgbryan posted Fri, 05 August 2011 at 4:03 PM
Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I'm sure we have an NDA we signed at the office, but I doubt it means anything this late in the game with Lion being released with the next 14 days. Can't test anything, left for vacation this morning. The last thing I was able to pinpoint was that adobe air was not communicating with poser. I could drag items to Poser, but could not click the library to change a pose for example. Tried rolling back adobe Air, but no success. Not really import for me, as i'm still with snow leopard for my main machine. But smith micro should look into it. Daz will have some a full plate on it's hands with Lion's real ease, seeing that a lot of the old installers will not work in Lion, because Apple dropped support of Rosetta. Thanks for everyone's help, Will check things out on my return from vacation,
It won't be a problem for DAZ, because they have absolutely no intention of addressing the problem. I have done this dance with them since 2005. They will continue to sell the products with a VISE installer & offer to give you your money back when it doesn't install, just like they do with the products with an OS9 installer (That they STILL sell.)
I guess DAZ's "solution" is to offer all the old OS9 and VISE installer items in "Buy It All Vault Sets," and then they will perhaps shortly discontinue these items altogether?
That does appear to be the plan. In my case, I think I already own everything in vault 1, 2, & 3, so in some respects, it isn't a big deal.
It is a big deal on the DAZ forums. Daz is seriously building up some ill-will.
As far as Lion goes, I am currently passing on it. OpenCL 3.2 isn't enough reason for me to update & I am not inpressed with any of the iToy "enhancements".
musicmajor111 posted Fri, 05 August 2011 at 11:27 PM
What's really odd is that by offering these old old products en masse at a discount, DAZ is now inviting a huge influx of potentially Lion-only Mac users who now have no way of installing (without even knowing) their recently purchased items unless they have access to an older Mac running an OS with the "classic environment" or Rosetta...
hairydalek posted Sat, 06 August 2011 at 4:02 AM
Quote - Why are you so interested in Lion? It doesn't offer anything important to people who are used to computers and are comfortable working with files.
Lion is going to make your computer more like iPad, and IMO that's a bad thing.
Simple answer - my work will take me there. Daytime duties include work for a Mac dev outfit, and future work is likely to be on QA. This may require me to upgrade to Lion on my big machine. I'll keep a Snow Leopard backup to hand, but I intend the upgrade to be one-way. So far, Poser is the only miscreant on Lion, and that is workable. Yes - I mix work and fun on the same machine. I only have so much space in the house ;-) Anyway, a Lion Gotcha for you. It involves the "resume" functionality: 1 Start Poser 2 Create a new document and save it. 3 Quit Poser 4 Delete the file saved in step 2 5 Start Poser 6 >> Crash this is with Poser Pro 2010. The solution is, if you are going to junk or move the last worked on file is to have a small Poser file, and open thatnbefore quitting. The only way to stop the crashes was to restore the deleted file, or have to create a dummy file and ensure Poser has seen that one before you quit.
grichter posted Thu, 11 August 2011 at 1:22 PM
There is a new versions of Flash and Air released today. One website says they are both secuirty updates. No sure if this helps with the Library issues under PP2010 and Lion
Air goes to 2.7.1
http://get.adobe.com/air/otherversions/
Gary
"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"
opodder posted Sun, 30 October 2011 at 3:07 PM
My library icons are back (Poser 8)!
How's that come about?
I don't use Poser frequently enough to know when it hapenned (last time I launched it was at least a month ago).
Grammer posted Mon, 31 October 2011 at 12:49 AM
Quote - My library icons are back (Poser 8)!
How's that come about?
I don't use Poser frequently enough to know when it hapenned (last time I launched it was at least a month ago).
Confirmed !!!!!!
