Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL

Subject: What am I doing wrong?

SerpentineFire opened this issue on Jul 21, 2011 · 17 posts

SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 3:32 AM

I know I am probably doubling up on forums and I will contact whoever and apologize or ask them to take the other one down (sorry I am not sure how all this works) Anyway I just wanted some advice if anyone has any. I am doing water.. wait that sounds wrong, I mean I trying to render water in Poser 8 on a Mac if that makes any difference, and I have the concept right it is just I can't get the settings right. I have done a render, which is above, so if anyone has some advice on this, please let me know. Oh, and I do apologize if this topic has been posted a zillion times by other people.. which it probably has... don't hit me lol

 

Oh by the way, I was following advice given in another forum topic (http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php message_id=2811816&ebot_calc_page#message_2811816), but I tweaked it a little. The settings are pretty much the same only the Diffuse Color is not black because it was far too dark when I did that, and I tweaked the Bump and Clouds as well. I am looking for how to get rid of the.. noise for want of a better word. I mean I want it wavy so to speak but as you can see there is... static or something. Sorry, these aren't technical terms, but you know what I mean :) 

SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 6:15 AM

Not that anyone is responding but I changed the clouds to turbulence and got this result! Looking a heap better to me :) I know it looks like a square thing in terms of the shoreline but in general, definitely better than before :) 

pakled posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 7:00 AM

what's actually wrong with it? Looks ok to me...

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cspear posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 7:00 AM

SerpentFire, you really should do a search for bagginsbill's various posts on water shaders and start off with exactly the shaders he posted.

Also handy if you post a screenshot of your shader setup so we can see what you're doing.

I don't know what the link in your first post was about, but it doesn't work.

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SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 7:27 AM

Attached Link: "Water In Poser" Forum

> Quote - SerpentFire, you really should do a search for bagginsbill's various posts on water shaders and start off with exactly the shaders he posted. > > Also handy if you post a screenshot of your shader setup so we can see what you're doing. > > I don't know what the link in your first post was about, but it doesn't work.

I did start off with the EXACT shaders he posted in that link. But his scene did not really have a background so I had to tweak it. I am using the same ones again except that I just changed the color of the Diffuse Color and I also put Turbulence instead of clouds. I reattached the link to the Forum I used. 

SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 7:30 AM

Quote - what's actually wrong with it? Looks ok to me...

The second one is ok, but the first one the water was too.. busy, like static on a television or something. 

SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 7:56 AM

Ok here are the render settings for the different pictures

I have to do this in separate posts so I am sorry if it looks like I am flooding.. I am not trying to 

SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 7:56 AM

render two

ypvs posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 9:51 AM

I'm using a shader called BBs water but it seems way more complicated than the one in Good Water thread. I can't track it down in my downloads, BBs page or a forum search. Is it one of yours BB?

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SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 9:56 AM

Maybe it depends on what kind of water you are trying to achieve ??

ypvs posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 9:57 AM

SerpentineFire, have you tried scaling your water prop to get the desired wave activity? I seem to remember having to have a v large object.

Attached render using material above

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SerpentineFire posted Thu, 21 July 2011 at 10:33 AM

Quote - SerpentineFire, have you tried scaling your water prop to get the desired wave activity? I seem to remember having to have a v large object.

Attached render using material above

 

Yes it was big, that looks good how would you get a more transparent look to that though?

ypvs posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 4:28 AM

SF

Change the transparency in the main Posersurface node. Same with diffuse colour to get bath/river/sea water.

Got a node plugged into Displacemnet so don't forget to enable this in your render settings. Also needs a sky dome for reflections.

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SerpentineFire posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 5:07 AM

Was what the original object? I mean what did you use in order to make the water? Like I used the square.. Is that a square too?

ypvs posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 6:30 AM

SP

Material was applied to the Poser 8 Hi-Res Square, Z-Scale and X-Scale set to 1000%. Changing the x-scale and z-scale in the Fractal Sum node changes the distance between the ripples. I'm not v good with nodes so a better explaination from an expert would be appreciated. Can this be used as a ripple and combined with another node to create the bigger waves. Maybe it easier to morph the square prop? More help needed!

 

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drifterlee posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 1:20 PM

Looks great to me! I use Magic Mirror's water. I bought it here. Then I change the diffuse color to the color of water I want and that's it.

SerpentineFire posted Fri, 22 July 2011 at 11:26 PM

Quote - SP

Material was applied to the Poser 8 Hi-Res Square, Z-Scale and X-Scale set to 1000%. Changing the x-scale and z-scale in the Fractal Sum node changes the distance between the ripples. I'm not v good with nodes so a better explaination from an expert would be appreciated. Can this be used as a ripple and combined with another node to create the bigger waves. Maybe it easier to morph the square prop? More help needed!

 

That sounds  logical, and I was actually wondering the same thing. Would be nice to be able to create something akin to a rough sea. I am sure BagginsBill would be able to say, he seems to be the guru on this sort of thing :) Also he might be able to suggest, or someone might be able to, how to light the water as if there are lights in the water. That was a very long winded way to ask that LOL But say for instance you wanted to create a swimming pool and it was going to be a night time scene, do you simply place a light under the surface of the water or is there a better way? I think I may be a little OT but I say things as they come into my head :)