you luckies.  the entire internset is slowed down by your poser downloads.

(with any luck i'll find p9 in my christmas stocking this year.  and 64bit compy under the tree.  can only hope and dream, c'ept i'm surely made it to Santa's naughty list. tee hee )

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Here are some Poser Pro 2012 renders I did just for kicks and testing.

 

no lights in the scene:

Dregon:

 

James Johnson:

 

and I've attached a pic of Dregon with the Sub-Dragon 

The "not visible to camera" IDL emitter enables the LightSabre to cast light, and the subsurface scattering shows this light passing through Simon's right ear.

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Quote - you luckies.  the entire internset is slowed down by your poser downloads.

(with any luck i'll find p9 in my christmas stocking this year.  and 64bit compy under the tree.  can only hope and dream, c'ept i'm surely made it to Santa's naughty list. tee hee )

Just a tip...if you do manage to swing a 64 bit computer, you may wanna think about Pro 2012 rather than 9 since 9 is 32 bit and Pro is 64 :).

Laurie

is P9 giving more Z depth?

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You know, I honestly don't know if we did anything with that. So much got tweaked and enhanced in this version, kinda hard to keep track.

Here is my render done with Poser 9 with IDL, SSS and AO used the default lights that come when P9 starts. It came out ok but still got to work on it lol. :)

 

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The "not visible to camera" IDL emitter enables the LightSabre to cast light, and the subsurface scattering shows this light passing through Simon's right ear.

Damn, that right there is worth the upgrade. Everything else seems about the same. I guess Firefly render engine, huh?

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Firefly render.  It seems to render faster than in P8/PP2010.  I re-rendered that LightSabre scene (1920x1200 pixels) several times during testing, and even with twelve raytrace bounces, it finished in eighteen and a half minutes.

LightSabres (P8 version and P9 version) are in the Community Gifts area of the RDNA forum.

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5 Million+  Poly sculpt of Andy 2's head from ZBrush taken into Poser directly (no decimation) and rendered in Poser Pro 2012 using a shader setup from Baggins Bill and all in under 30 minutes.  You can't beat that.

Don't forget to tell them it is 10x too large - otherwise the skin would look very different. You almost think there is no scatter here. But there is - just scatter distances are off by 10x.

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YES! Very important to remember that too! :) lol

Looking good have to wait until tonight to dl my 2012 and 9, on sat with a fap..grrrr Renders look pretty good though.

Anyone else having a render problem with Poser 2012 Pro?  Any render with the new content - sketch or firefly - generates a flat gray screen and the machine seems to lock up.  

Importing Poser 8 content renders fine.

Any suggestions?  Am using a Mac i7 3.4 Hz 4gig and Snow Leapard 10.6.8.   Install went fine and program loads new Poser 2012 content, just can't render any scene with it.

Help appreciated!

Thanks.

Decided to render Alyson 2. The only thin I changed was to plump up the lips.:biggrin:

Attached Link: Lothlorien - 1920x1200

My first subsurface scattering test scene...

 

Self-lit low-poly buildings which also cast light onto their surroundings, to fill the neighborhood around TinkerBell's Drive-In Cafe'

 

Pixie dust!  Not postworked, it's a simple four-node Poser material.  :D

 

Glowy IDL effects...  ^^

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Wow, the lighting is definitely a big improvement. A lot of the stuff I've seen posted here is lightyears ahead of what I could do with Poser 8 out of the box. I think I will have to seriously consider getting Poser 2012 Pro and upgrading my system to 64 bit.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

 Thanks everyone for posting- awaiting my Ppro2012 physical version. Luckily. I have Lightwave to play with SSS and skin- nothing really pre-set though. I've yet to get the ear glow right. Patience, must....have....patience! :-)

Ok here's that render done right.

These are so cool. I can't wait to try it.

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render speed is much improved when using IDL.

I'm not very experienced in Poser at all, but here's my first Poser Pro 2012 render.

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What promo page? The rendering of dynamic hair is faster and that's the only description I found. There are no changes to the hair room.

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i thought i had read faster dynamics.

there's still 9 days to get the p9 upgd for 99.99.

i went near my piggy bank with a hammer, but it started cringing ...

 

quote:

Faster Dynamic Hair
Our engineers spent time under the hood to speed up Dynamic Hair. Now Poser’s powerful Dynamic Hair calculates collisions faster and renders it faster as well.

http://poser.smithmicro.com/poser9-poserpro2012/index.html?/#new

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Quote - Ok here's that render done right.

 

Amazing skin, how you do that

Quote - Ok here's that render done right.

iz that normal maps magic?

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Oh, I see. The way I parse English, I do not consider the hair simulation to be the same as the hair room. Yes you do the sim faster, but the hair room itself is not improved, not in the same way that the material room has improved (with new nodes.)

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> Quote - > Quote - Ok here's that render done right. > >   > > Amazing skin, how you do that

I did that skin - it's a 100% procedural skin that I gave up on a while back until we have real SSS. Now you see what it can do.

Here's another example, a hybrid procedural and texture skin.

There is a color map here, but no bump map, and the blemishes and spots are procedural.

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Quote - > Quote - Ok here's that render done right.

iz that normal maps magic?

It may become that, but no. I started a thread about elderly skin at RDNA. Teyon jumped in and made that face in a few frickin minutes in ZBrush, and then he put the shader on it.

The face on the right is over 5 million polygons.

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The elderly skin thread is here.

http://www.runtimedna.com/forum/showthread.php?64446-Elderly-Skin

I get the impression that a lot of Rendo users are not aware of what is going on in the official P9/PP2012 forum at RDNA. There is 10,000 times more information over there, whereas here is mostly people talking about installation problems.

I already posted over 100 renders there.

Suggest you catch up over there.

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Renders such as this.

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And this.

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This.

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And this.

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Well? Nobody playing yet?

Post simple but surprising stuff - like this Poser cylinder, a point light, and the ground.

Render time - 2 minutes 50 seconds on my I7 860.

The wax material is just four nodes - Reflect, Fresnel_Blend, Scatter, and Blinn.

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No lights at all. Added a glowing sphere - lighting done by IDL only.

Render time - 1 minute 12 seconds.

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bagginsbill,

How was the rendertime on the green eyed girl? And has the camera been improved?

 

Do you mean depth of field? If so, yes that is vastly improved.

The green eyed girl was a demo of scatter and DoF and IDL with transmapped hair. Altogether a generally impossible task for PP2010. PP2012 rendered that in about 21 minutes.

 

[EDITED] Quoted wrong render time.

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Again - no lights at all. The bulb in the lamp is set with ambient value = 20.

2 minutes 49 seconds

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You answered all my intended questions. Looks like you are doing all the work again..

 

The eyewhites on Simon are some of the best I've seen. Is there sss attached to them?

[EDITED]

Correction - I said yes but I misread your question.

The image of James (not Simon) on this page (2) has Scatter on the eyes.

The image of Simon on the previous page does not - only the skin head.

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Well I only just got nime last night so I havne't been playing a LOT yet. But done a simple render:

With the P8 Soft Lighting Scene from BB - that one has been my startup scene since I first tried it. 

I let the Material Room add SSS to the skin. Not quite sure what I think of it. But it is of course dependent of the light in the scene...

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Anybody tried a glass of 2% Milk in the morning light with blurred DoF, Fresnel, Refraction on a checkerboard tiled tabletop yet?  Physical shipments of PPro want to know.

TG - The wacro? Trouble with it is it is trying to do skin really simple, and guess what - it's just not simple. It's a heck of a lot simpler than before, but a good quality skin shader has to recognize that there are three different effects (specular, diffuse, scatter) that have to be balanced and built in the right way, and second it has to have a really good bump map, and third it has to recognize that we have hair painted on our skin maps, and deal with it.

You want to use my setup that I posted in the RDNA thread regarding SSS on humans.

And no shader should be excused because of the lighting. It should look like skin that is being lit however it is you're lighting it, even if you're lighting it in a poor way.

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Quote - Anybody tried a glass of 2% Milk in the morning light with blurred DoF, Fresnel, Refraction on a checkerboard tiled tabletop yet?  Physical shipments of PPro want to know.

Hang on. I gotta find that glass of milk prop I made years ago.

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Here's the important thread for milk - best I could do in 2008.

Let's see what I get now.

http://www.runtimedna.com/forum/showthread.php?34646-liquid-shaders

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Damn. RDNA lost the zip file there of my morphing glass. I'll have to make it from scratch unless somebody has it and can give it back to me. I don't really have time to build it right now.

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will Poser Pro 2012 run on a 32-bit pc?   if i buy it before i can afford a 64-bit pc?

it looks like a sidegrade from P8 is 199.99 for next week?

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bagginsbill,

No rush. That glass is worth the wait (better than anything I have) and a side by side (then and now) would be neat. It could sell product if SM used it.

The milk in your dna thread does not convince although the last few renders were probably "at" the limit of the software. Once you convince, then you have to make it look delicious.. ;PP

yes, ppro comes in 32 as well.

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Attached Link: jade tea cup and a candle

> Quote - Damn. RDNA lost the zip file there of my morphing glass. I'll have to make it from scratch unless somebody has it and can give it back to me. I don't really have time to build it right now.

If it would be of use, the jade tea cup is half full of tea.  Perhaps you could re-texture it?  Or is it the original materials of your model that you wanted?

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Quote - > Quote - Damn. RDNA lost the zip file there of my morphing glass. I'll have to make it from scratch unless somebody has it and can give it back to me. I don't really have time to build it right now.

If it would be of use, the jade tea cup is half full of tea.  Perhaps you could re-texture it?  Or is it the original materials of your model that you wanted?

Is the liquid modeled as just a top surface, or an entire enclosed 3d object. That is crucial. It needs to be a closed volume with its own material, fitted precisely inside the cup or glass, or it just fails.

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Sounds like it will work.  The liquid is topologically closed, with a microscopic space between the inner surface of the glass and the sides/bottom of the liquid, in order to avoid having two polygons sharing the same space.  The top side of the liquid has a meniscus shape.

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I'm trying it. The teacup is very nice, but I'm running into the age-old glass is opaque problem. For this to work, light has to reach the liquid and it doesn't.

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Damn... that looks good enough that I suddenly have a craving for some milk...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

LOL Yeah I might be tempted take a sip. 10 hours were times I used to log on stuff like that.

 

Especially like the "proper" tone and translucency at the edges.

 

Wow if I didn't know better, I'd say you've been posting a photo of a cuppa milk!

 

I'm seeing an odd problem here and I don't know what it stems from. At first I thought it was the scene so I changed it, but the problem persists.

 

It's originally an old PZ3 I brought into PP2012. I guess it's from Poser 8 but it may be older, it's Simon.

I'm getting all those little light-spots all over the place.

There's no lights in the scene, the flames on the candelabras has an ambient material (15 in ambient) and so does the liquid in the bottle. Those are the only light sources in the scene.

 

Everything is enclosed in a room (Mother's House, I think it's from Daz)

Where do those light spots come from? Anyone got an idea, it's driving me nuts! L

Also.. Why is his nails black? Is that a side effect of the SSS (Yes I've used the wacro on all skin materials here including his nails) In the material room they're not black but normal looking :/

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Gah the pic was "too large" Well here it is again..

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Do you have IDL on?

...for the hands, just copy the hand material over to the fingernails and toes.

..actually,, I do not have a clue what causes black nails with P9 or PPro2012. The old skin shaders did not load fingernails and toes so reloading them from the hand mat fixed this problem.

TG, Poser's IDL is a cheat and cannot be pushed beyond certain limits. The price we pay for speed.

You cannot use super bright small props for light. Poser does not send out enough rays to find them all from all positions, so here it hits, there it misses. You get splotchies.

 

Use bigger props for light sources. The new system allows us to make these invisible and keep the smaller ones to look at directly!!!

 

If you really want to do that sort of render, with a small 5 inch sphere lighting a large area, use LuxRender and Pose2Lux. Oh - and be prepared to render for up to 40 or 50 hours.

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Did some tweaks and switched to tea (with milk).

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Pretty awesome.  I guess Poser10 will have to solve caustics.  It is the only thing I'm missing here. I mean the red shadow and super prism specular.

Thanks, BB. At the moment I'm just experimenting to see what is possible at all :)

 

It makes sense that the light sources are too small. Will try the InvisiLights :)

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you-know-who may add caustics at some point, but there may be ways to fake it that are quicker.  like some things (e.g. transparency colour) are not really caustics - they work in some apps with caustics disabled.

I would be very happy with a transmission color, consulted for shadow calculations. I could easily fake the caustics well enough using Edge_Blend alone. This would neatly solve the problem of avoiding unwanted shadows from glass.

I got around it here by simply reducing my main light shadow strength. But I could only do that for this isolated prop. In a general scene that would be a fail.

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BB, I love that glass material! Is it one you've already published! All these renders look so cool! Unfortunately, I can't play with it yet. I opted for the physical disc of Poser Pro 2012 and I don't know how long it's going to take to get to me here in Canada. :(

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LL, no I never published that glass. I talked about it with you in a thread last year.

The last thing you said was

Quote - Ah, yes, I have that prop. I can hope that maybe SM will take consideration on the problems you've brought up when it comes to transparency and refraction. I can but hope.

I hoped so too and I was not happy with my glass. You have to be a wizard and know tricks to get it to behave. I was waiting to see if P9/PP2012 addressed the transmission color problem, the total internal reflection problem, and the inverse IOR problem.

No solutions yet.

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Ummm, this is weird. Silly me, I didn't realize that the jade cup and candle zip was for Poser 9. I loaded it into Poser 8 and, um, the scatter node is there in the materials but of course not the fresnel blend node. I don't think that technically it should have loaded the material at all.

P.S. I do like the look of that glass though!

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*you-know-who may add caustics at some point, but there may be ways to fake it that are quicker.  like some things (e.g. transparency colour) are not really caustics - they work in some apps with caustics disabled.*

*Transmission caustics. Is that not right? Shadow was not the correct word.  This picture is what I mean so I'm clear. *

Really! Then they started work on Scatter in Poser 8 but didn't get it working right and never told us about it. Huh.

I am going to show you the new formula for Glass in P9. You will be surprised it's so nothing.

LL - do you have or plan to get P9 or PP2012?

I actually used my 44 node P8 version above, but I'm rendering the P9 version and you'll see it is the same.

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Quote - you-know-who may add caustics at some point, but there may be ways to fake it that are quicker.  like some things (e.g. transparency colour) are not really caustics - they work in some apps with caustics disabled.

*Transmission caustics. Is that not right? Shadow was not the correct word.  This picture is what I mean so I'm clear. *

Light passing through or not is just transmission. This is the opposite of casting a shadow - it simply not casting a shadow.

Caustics are when transmitted light beams from different places of an object are focused, creating a local hot spot that is brighter than simply transmitted light.

A caustic is not possible unless a surface is curved. 

Your image shows both.

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Here is P9/PP2012 glass.

The coloring of the refraction is optional - I'm just demonstrating how to make blue glass.

The IOR being less in the Refract is intentional - a workaround for Poser's lack of inverse IOR (bending light the other way going inside to out, than the way it does going outside to in).

If you were doing single-sided thin glass, the Refract IOR should be close to 1.

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Here is the result.

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In my P5 glass (used in the images before the blue one), the Fresnel_Blend node has to be implemented with many math nodes. I sometimes use an approximation, 5 nodes, and sometimes the real math, 21 (or so) nodes. I don't really know how many. I just say "TrueFresnel" in matmatic and it is done.

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Your image shows both.

I  know. Reflection Caustics and Transmission Caustics. I was originally refering to the missing red where the shadow lies in your render. I'm learning..

How will you produce the hot "focused" spots? *

Quote - Your image shows both.

I  know. Reflection Caustics and Transmission Caustics. I was originally refering to the missing red where the shadow lies in your render. I'm learning..

How will you produce the hot "focused" spots? *

By setting a transmission value greater than 1.

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Did some tweaks and switched to tea (with milk). the tea one looks like orange juice on my screen.  (good realistic OJ though)

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I sampled the tea color from a photo of tea. But it is reflecting the red glass, so it isn't just that color.

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*By setting a transmission value greater than 1.*

*Hmmm.  Back to milk in a glass.. Hope you can find that glass prop. I like this shot. The longer you look, the more you see. This may seem tedious to some but I love thinking computers can duplicate this stuff.

rendered in Poser 2012:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2249893 

re-rendered in Poser 2012:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2226983

 

it used to suck having to export into high end apps just to achieve results like these. i think people take for granted how much the Firefly renderer and material room has evolved. many dont realize that just a few years ago features like indirect lighting/GI, SSS, etc were mostly found in >$5000 apps with expensive plugins.  that fact that theyre all there in Poser in a beginner-friendly format and it still renders relatively fast is very impressive - hats off to the poser devs for bringing these features to the table in a 'hobbyist' app.

if youre on the fence about Poser - SSS is worth the pricetag alone.

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Here's the P8 render. There are problems with it. I can see mesh lines. So even though it looked like they toyed with the idea of this node in P8, the support for it is sketchy. I'd hoped to kind of mess around with this discovery while I wait for my Poser Pro 2012 to arrive in the mail, but I'm not sure I'd be happy with the results.

 

And I've tried twice to attach this render to this post and it hasn't worked. What's up with that?

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Okay, let's try this one again. I don't know what's the problem tonight!

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I've got a simple thin-walled tumbler & beverage model in Poser now;  I'll strip the geometries out and package it and post it shortly.  This one will have the proper positive meniscus - I just realized that the ribbed tea cup beverage has a negative meniscus (ooops).

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I'm confused. Why would you want a convex meniscus? Water is concave, unless it overflows the container.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meniscus

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Quote - I'm confused. Why would you want a convex meniscus? Water is concave, unless it overflows the container.

Yes, that has occurred to me now, and the new model will have the proper meniscus.  I must have had a brain fail when I made the ribbed tea cup and tea liquid. :huh:  There are combinations of liquid and container materials which have a convex meniscus, but tea/milk/beer in glass/jade ain't among them.

Render testing the new thin-walled tumbler & beverage model now, looking for any egregious errors (polys sharing same space, inverted normals, etc.)

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Sorry, I couldn't upload BB's Milk Glass prop. Can't figure out why.

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Attached Link: thin-walled smooth tumbler with beverage

OK, I *think* I got the thin-walled smooth tumbler & beverage model attached as a zip.  It is in standard format to be unzipped to your "downloads" content folder.  Free for both personal and commercial renders.

Nope.  won't attach a zip, apparently.  OK, I'll load it elsewhere and then link.

 

OK, got it.  Use the hotlink above.  :D

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I always thought the surface tension of the water molecules made it slightly convex but I am probably wrong.

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P2012 quick test with old scene.

Rendertime 53 min.

No postwork except of assingning sRGB ICC and converting from png to jpg.

> Quote - Damn. RDNA lost the zip file there of my morphing glass. I'll have to make it from scratch unless somebody has it and can give it back to me. I don't really have time to build it right now.

 

Here's the prop plus the .png in a .zip file. Can't find the original .zip file so these were taken straight from my Runtime/Props directory.

Quote - I always thought the surface tension of the water molecules made it slightly convex but I am probably wrong.

Love esther

It is. Just look at a drop of water on a table or flat surface. The tension makes it convex. But if you put it into a container or glass, that same tension makes it slightly concave until it gets to the lip, just before it overflows.

i see.

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yumm milk goodness.  hungry for some peanutbutter cookies

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how's the poser Gold lookin in PP2012? 

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Here is a bioluminescent sort of image I did. (Although I must admit, I had other lights in the scene.)

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Y'know I'm starting to like the New Ryan. He's quite easy to morph into something not so Ryan :)

A tad of FaceRoom and some of the included morphs:

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A slight retweaking and rerendering of something I originally did in the PP2010 beta. Didn't add any of the new features like SSS for this, tho I finally did get ambient headlights which for some reason I never achieved back when I first did the scene.

No postwork here, I'm uploading a version with minor postwork to my gallery.

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That's a lovely winter wedding scene ... or is that a sandy beach?!? Looks like snow.

Snow, from SnarlyGribbly's snow machine. He's "showing" his new bride the home he envisions for their empty field....

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Messin around with some of the props that came with PPro 2012.  Couldn't enable or disable poly-smoothing on some of them, for some reason.  The controls weren't there on the attributes tabs.  Hmmm....    Anyway.  I should probably use a smaller scale on the Scatter node for the lips.  They look like eh...  candy instead of lips.

 

Is that Miki3?  Is that hair room hair?

That looks great!

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Quote - Y'know I'm starting to like the New Ryan. He's quite easy to morph into something not so Ryan :)

A tad of FaceRoom and some of the included morphs:

where's Professor Snape?

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Minor postwork... kinda messed up the hair and clothes. But I really like how the scenery rendered.

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Here goes, a portrait with SSS.

Hi I just got Pro2012 today- I love it! Sooo much faster. I am playing around with the SSS nodes for the first time. My first render.

Pretty. But - the skin shader is misbehaving and/or your light is too much. The highlight is blown - producing "yellow bloom".

Are you using GC? If not, turn it on.

Then if you still see blown highlights, lower the light intensity. If you've been using some older Poser, you got in the habit of using extra light. Unlearn that.

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Another from me, this time a portrait.  PP2012 renders so fast I can't see straight.  Sure am glad I saved my pennies for it.  I'm in love..........

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Quote - > Quote - Y'know I'm starting to like the New Ryan. He's quite easy to morph into something not so Ryan :)

A tad of FaceRoom and some of the included morphs:

where's Professor Snape?

"they'll be no foolish wand waving or incantations in this class"

 

Hahahahaha I thought I FOR ONCE would try to make a character that was NOT an iteration of Snape.. And see where that got me ROFL

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Thanks Bill

Too right! This was default lighting-with the addition of IBL.

 

 I am using an HDRI as the primary light (thanks for the Envirosphere) with a single Light-point. Perhaps a bit too much specularity?

 

 

Quote - Pretty. But - the skin shader is misbehaving and/or your light is too much. The highlight is blown - producing "yellow bloom".

Are you using GC? If not, turn it on.

Then if you still see blown highlights, lower the light intensity. If you've been using some older Poser, you got in the habit of using extra light. Unlearn that.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Y'know I'm starting to like the New Ryan. He's quite easy to morph into something not so Ryan :)

A tad of FaceRoom and some of the included morphs:

where's Professor Snape?

"they'll be no foolish wand waving or incantations in this class"

 

Hahahahaha I thought I FOR ONCE would try to make a character that was NOT an iteration of Snape.. And see where that got me ROFL

Alan Rickman :wub:

Galaxy Quest?

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Quote - Damn. RDNA lost the zip file there of my morphing glass. I'll have to make it from scratch unless somebody has it and can give it back to me. I don't really have time to build it right now.

Sorry - was looking over my files and happened across this - that wouldn't be it by any chance, Bagginsbill??

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Yay that's it - thank you!

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Re-matted for 2012 - how does it look?

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Whoops - I have too many experimental scatter materials left around. (Already have around 100) I used the wrong milk shader.

This is better.

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Yeah! though the top one is almost closer to skim milk.

The glass is nice but the base is almost too insubstantial looking to my eyes.

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iphone typing but watching with interest.. The double reflection is amazing.

Still playing around with it. Here is a straight up render of the Alyson figure. No postwork. Am still stuggling to achieve these sublime renders that I saw in this thread!!! Stay tuned.

uhhhh, there is no image there...?

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Drat, exceeded the file size limit. This ones cropped and compressed.

Quote - Drat, exceeded the file size limit. This ones cropped and compressed.

It still looks good, even compressed and cropped. I looked at the one you posted in your gallery. I like how the shadows from the plants give his arm an almost tattoo-like effect. PP2012 looks like my next purchase.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

which figure is he?

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He's M4, with Pixeluna's Frank morph.

As to the shadows, those were an accident, I'm still figuring poser out. I also use Cararra8 pro, DS 4 pro, and I just picked up Vue 9, so Far though, PP2012 is my fave to work with.

Yeah, I'm a software junkie.

very nice render.

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