Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Any Simple Way For Grouping? (Step By Step Would Help)

Ragtopjohnny opened this issue on Nov 03, 2011 · 13 posts


Ragtopjohnny posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 9:29 AM

Hey all --

I'm confused.  I purchased Big Office from the Store here, and wanted to do some nice renders with it, but the scale is off to Poser Figures.

I need to enlarge it all up to 130%, and am wondering if there's any easy quick way to group the whole scene together to do that all at once. 

Thanks for everyone's input -- you've all been helpful to me in the past, and I'm sure you'll all be helpful again, have a great day everyone -- will be back on later 😄

 

 

 

Poser Pro 2012/3DS Max 2013/Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Zbrush/

PC: HP Z820 Workstation, 3.30 ghz 8 core Intel Processor, 2gig nvidia Quadro, 16 gig of Ram and 2TB Hard Drive.

 


LaurieA posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 9:40 AM

If all the stuff is parented to one thing, when you increase the size of the parent, everything else should scale to follow. If it's not, you'll need to choose something to be the parent and then parent everything else to it.

Laurie



Ragtopjohnny posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 10:36 AM

Ahhhh -- okay -- thanks Laurie....

I have a TON of props of course too in it, and the floor and walls seem to be joined together, but everything else isn't....

Looks like a lot of "remodeling" the office before I do renders for it....😄

 

 

 

Poser Pro 2012/3DS Max 2013/Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Zbrush/

PC: HP Z820 Workstation, 3.30 ghz 8 core Intel Processor, 2gig nvidia Quadro, 16 gig of Ram and 2TB Hard Drive.

 


geep posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 12:36 PM

Hi Ragtopjohnny,

Just curious ... what is the Scale of the "Big Ofice?"

Height of ceiling from floor?

Height of door openings?

Height of desk top from floor?

cheers,
dr geep
;=]

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019



Ragtopjohnny posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 4:08 PM

Not sure on that one dr geep, but I can tell you its smaller than the Poser figures. 

Vicky 4.2 is taller than the office door, LOL.  Also a full size file cabinet is shorter than she is too....😄

Going to have to start doing that eventually.  Working on the Dynamic Clothes part of the Pose first...😄

I thought the "Big Office" was scaled to Poser peeps, but it is just a tad smaller....

 

Poser Pro 2012/3DS Max 2013/Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Zbrush/

PC: HP Z820 Workstation, 3.30 ghz 8 core Intel Processor, 2gig nvidia Quadro, 16 gig of Ram and 2TB Hard Drive.

 


geep posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 7:25 PM

Ok, I'll purchase it so I can measure it's scale.

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019



lesbentley posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 8:45 PM

As LaurieA said, if you can find a common parent (look in the Hierarchy editor) for all parts of the Big Office, scale that. If it's a figure the BODY will be the common parent. If its a prop the floor might be the common parent.

If there is no common parent. Download and install my "MinFig" (find it in my free stuff). Parent all the parts to MinFig, and save it to a Figure palette (with a new name), so you don't have to repeat the parenting.

If there are a lot of parts in the Big Office, and only two or three figures in the scene, and no common parent, it may be easier to scale the figures rather than the Big Office. But if you intend to use the Big Office a lot, its probably better to scale the Big Office, and save it at the new scale (eg using MinFig).


geep posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 9:40 PM

Hmmm ...

The doors are only 5' 3" high and the walls are only 7'. (using DGS*)

Standard (USA) doors are 7'0" and walls are normally 8'0" (house) and may be 10' or 14' for commercial buildings.

All objects are parented to the "floor_1" object but ...

... unfortunately, the origin of the separate objects is not at the bottom of the object so that scaling the main parent will not work as desired.

Each object would need to be scaled and repositioned separately.

Sorry 'bout that. :sad:

cheers, (anyway)
dr geep
;=]

*DGS = Dr Geep's Scale

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"


cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

edited 10/5/2019



Ragtopjohnny posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 10:31 PM

Thanks lesbentley for the further explanation of this -- I don't think scaling the whole scene will work as I want it too sadly...

 

Thanks for the real detailed look into it dr geep -- 😄  I really appreciate that.  Maybe I'll just do portions of the scenes and do it that way.  It's a shame, it's a really nice prop, I like it alot if it were just to Poser scale it would have been all the better. 

 

 

 

Poser Pro 2012/3DS Max 2013/Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Zbrush/

PC: HP Z820 Workstation, 3.30 ghz 8 core Intel Processor, 2gig nvidia Quadro, 16 gig of Ram and 2TB Hard Drive.

 


lesbentley posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 11:23 PM

Quote - All objects are parented to the "floor_1" object but ...

... unfortunately, the origin of the separate objects is not at the bottom of the object so that scaling the main parent will not work as desired.

Each object would need to be scaled and repositioned separately.

Sorry 'bout that.

Hu???

If all the objects are parented to the floor it's easy peasy! Make sure the floor is is at zero altitude. Parent the floor to MinFig. Scale MinFig to 130%. Everything should scale with it in proportion. Should work for almost anything.

Quote - I don't think scaling the whole scene will work as I want it too sadly...

Now I'm confused. What do you mean by "whole scene", the Big Office, no? I thought that is what you wanted to do, scale the Big Office up by 130%? What's the problem, why won't scaling the Big Office by 130% achieve your desired aim?


lesbentley posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 11:32 PM

P.S.

The only reason you need to use MinFig, is so that you can save the whole scaled collection of props (I'm assuming its props) to the Figures palette. If you don't need to save it to a library, you can just parent the floor to any Poser primitive, scale the primitive, and hide it.


lesbentley posted Thu, 03 November 2011 at 11:42 PM

P.P.S.

If scaling the floor does not work, it is probably either because the floor is using "scale" instead of "propagatingScale". Or because some ERC is involved somewhere along the line. In either case, the methods I described above should still work.


lesbentley posted Sun, 06 November 2011 at 12:08 AM

Ragtopjohnny, have you tried what I suggested? Parenting the floor_1 object to MinFig, then scaling MinFig?