VerlSnake opened this issue on Nov 25, 2011 · 22 posts
VerlSnake posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 11:24 AM
Hello Poser Community !
I badly need the Poser 4 Horse ! For the legacy DAZ Horse Carousel !
Grateful I would be if someone made the Poser 4 Horse available to me !
TIA for doing that !
VerlSnake
PhilC posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 11:33 AM
The horse comes as legacy content in every version of Poser. If you have Poser you'll have the horse somewhere.
It would not be legal for someone to pass it on to you.
randym77 posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 11:41 AM
If you own Poser, you should have it as "legacy content." Even Poser Pro 2012 has the old Poser 4 horse included. (You may have to change it from .crz to .cr2 format.)
If you do not own Poser, I don't think there's any way to get the Poser 4 horse.
Zygote was giving away the OBJ of the horse as free stuff, but it's just the OBJ. It's not pose-able, and probably wouldn't work in the carousel.
VerlSnake posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 11:42 AM
Hello Phil !
I have Poser Pro installed; and additionally several Poser Legacy Content Packs; but alone: The P4 Horse has NEVER been installed on my machine.
So I've searched high and low for the P4 Horse ! And got aware that I'm not alone with this search ... Others have already given up to ever get access to the P4 horse ...
If there a legal issues to make this old horse available: Does it perhaps make sense to contact SmithMicro - the owner company of Poser - directly ?
Cheers and Tschüss
Kai
Medzinatar posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 1:00 PM
I just looked in my installation. I find it in Figures-->Animals-->Poser Originals
VerlSnake posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 1:10 PM
This Poser Horse CAN be used with the DAZ Carousel; BUT: It doesn't work properly !
See the Screen Shot of the DAZ Carousel Rocker in the file attached to this thread.
I would be quite sad if I can't use the legacy DAZ Carousel properly ! Therefore, I will probably contact SmithMicro and point them to this thread !
Thanks for Your efforts !
Kai
Acadia posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 3:43 PM
I think you have to go to the Smith Micro website and download the legacy content. You will need your serial number to do that.
http://poser.smithmicro.com/content_update.html
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randym77 posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 3:53 PM
There's apparently a problem even if you download the legacy content. Not sure if the problem is they changed the horse model, left it out, or the file or compression is bad.
Bugging SM about it might be the best thing to do, though I don't know if they'll actually do anything about it. SM basically just put up the files EF left them. I don't think fixing them is a priority.
PhilC posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 4:11 PM
The Poser horse has been successfully galloping round Poser for many many years. If another application fails to read it correctly then maybe the fault is in that application not the horse.
randym77 posted Fri, 25 November 2011 at 4:21 PM
But the DAZ Carousel does work with older versions of Poser. I have it and I've used it.
This thread explains some of the issues:
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=126581
Everything from corrupt files to .crz instead of .cr2 files.
edited by JenX to make link live
3dactor posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 11:59 AM
The most intersting aspect of this thread is not that the Poser 4 Horse is not included with the latest versions of Poser( as it is), but that Daz sells a product that for the bulk of its geometry uses an obj that is included with Poser. Nothing like paying for somethign twice.
I am wondering if maybe the Poser 4 horse was not included with Poser 7. Which it appers you are using. Maybe it was not. I think there was another horse included in that release.
With the latest releases of Poser 9 and Pro 2012 Smith Micro has cleaned up and reorganized the legacy content breaking them into seperate installers and fixing bad links, missing geometry etc. That has been plaguing some pieces for quite some time. As far as I know they did not actully update the rigs, textures, objs, of this old content. so that they should all still work fine with existing supporting 3rd party content.
randym77 posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 1:02 PM
It would be great news if that's true. There was something wrong with the legacy content before. The horse wasn't right. Dunno if it was a corrupt file or what, but it didn't work right. If they've finally fixed it, hallelujah.
lmckenzie posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 5:00 PM
"Nothing like paying for somethign twice."
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I'm confused. What exactly are you paying for twice? Is DAZ selling the horse or is the carousel included with Poser?
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VerlSnake posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 5:25 PM
The DAZ Horse Carousel
1. is a legacy item which is NOT sold anymore by DAZ
2. does need the legacy P4 Horse; which was probably never sold by DAZ itself ...
Since I own the legacy DAZ Horse Carousel and still like it, I created this thread ...
seachnasaigh posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 5:32 PM
I think you used a later (Poser 7) horse. Download and install the legacy content (if you have a valid Poser 8+ serial, the legacy pack is free). In public documents, try Poser 8 content:runtime:libraries:character:Poser 1-5:additional figures:animals
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WandW posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 7:00 PM
I just looked in PP2012, and there are two horses; one under AnimalsPets of 818 kB, and one under AnimalsPoser Originals of 14.2 kB...
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seachnasaigh posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 9:40 PM
I have P7 and Poser Pro (plus later versions) on at least one of my workstations, and I seem to recall getting a legacy content pack for P7, specifically to get the P4 horse and both the nude and dressed versions of Don & Judy (P5 dolls). I don't know if it's still available.
Poser 12, in feet.
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SteveJax posted Tue, 31 January 2012 at 10:35 PM
Let me just address this notion of "I have to pay for something twice". No sir, you don't. The DAZ Legacy Carousel is a support item for the Poser 4 horse, much like you would buy clothing items for a specific figure. When you buy clothing for Don, Judy, Jessi or James, you're not entitled to the figure if you don't already own it. The same applies in this instance.
There are still two places for Legacy content if you have a valid serial number:
For the Poser 4 Horse you would need the Poser 6 Legacy Content available here:
http://poser.smithmicro.com/content_update.html
The same downloads are also still available here:
http://support.contentparadise.com/updates/index.html
randym77 posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 5:13 AM
Quote - I have P7 and Poser Pro (plus later versions) on at least one of my workstations, and I seem to recall getting a legacy content pack for P7, specifically to get the P4 horse and both the nude and dressed versions of Don & Judy (P5 dolls). I don't know if it's still available.
The problem was that there was something wrong with the legacy content package e-Frontier offered. It wasn't complete. There were things missing. The horse was a different version, not the original P4 horse, and it was in .crz format, not .cr2. SmithMicro just left the same legacy content up for a long time. Sounds like they've finally gotten around to fixing it.
WandW posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 8:31 AM
Both of the PP2012 horses are crzs, but that's merely a compressed cr2...
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VerlSnake posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 10:14 AM
What I have just done is:
And voila: Eventually the legacy DAZ Horse Carousel HAS the correct P4 Horse geometry to make it seemingly function correctly ! Hallelujah !
seachnasaigh posted Wed, 01 February 2012 at 10:37 AM
I think "horseHiP3.obj" is it, because what the community commonly refers to as the P4 horse actually was introduced in Poser 3. It's a remarkably good model/rigging, considering. I still prefer it for animation sequences over the Millenium Horse.
Poser 12, in feet.
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