Latexluv opened this issue on Feb 15, 2012 · 30 posts
Latexluv posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 5:33 PM
I am working on an M4 character and the duster coat is a very important part of the character's persona. I just wondered if you could use P2012's SSS on a leather coat and how would the shader be set up?
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meatSim posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 5:40 PM
I dont know.. but I'm listening for an answer.. I've been wondering for a while about how to incorporate sss in clothing materials
Glitterati3D posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 5:45 PM
Perhaps not an answer, but you might want to take a look at this freebie. He/She used SSS on the materials, and they are a lovely addition to any runtime:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=67396
Latexluv posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 5:56 PM
Hmm, I had downloaded those but had not read that some of the material were built using SSS. I'll check that out. But I'm still waiting to see if some material guru will come and give an opinion. I could try using BB's Scatter + Blinn set up on the coat and see what it looks like.
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Glitterati3D posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 6:05 PM
You could also add the Poser SSS in the material room to see what it looks like.
Snarlygribbly posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 6:10 PM
You know, it wouldn't be too hard to use EZSkin to add SSS to a leather coat - just treat it as another figure.
Free stuff @ https://poser.cobrablade.net/
Latexluv posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 6:15 PM
Quote - You know, it wouldn't be too hard to use EZSkin to add SSS to a leather coat - just treat it as another figure.
Hee hee, talk slowly and use small words when you explain how to do that! :)
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Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
Snarlygribbly posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 6:30 PM
EZSkin allows users to add support for additional figures by adding definitions to the ezskin.xml file included with the distribution. Instructions for doing so are in the readme.txt file in the zip file.
There's no reason why a leather coat couldn't be treated as another figure. After all, leather is skin, sort of :-)
I'm happy to help more if you need it, but if you fancy giving this a try I suggest you have a go yourself first (it's quite easy, I think) and then if you get stuck at any point you can ask for specific help then.
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Latexluv posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 7:11 PM
"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate
Weapons of choice:
Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
meatSim posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 7:20 PM
I guess what you have to figure is not just the node set up for an sss leather but also the parameter values. I mean yes leather is skin, but it possibly doesnt have the same qualities as living skin which the sss skin shaders are designed to approximate. I'm just a bit lost as to where to start defining the properties it may have.
Glitterati3D posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 10:07 PM
Latexluv posted Wed, 15 February 2012 at 11:15 PM
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vilters posted Thu, 16 February 2012 at 3:51 AM
leather is quite shiney, and light does not go deep in leather as it does in human skin.
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Latexluv posted Thu, 16 February 2012 at 5:10 AM
Okay, totally frustrated now. None of the trench coats that I have will work for this project. I even tried two that I had converted from M3 with Crossdresser. So, if any modelers are out there, please look at the photo I posted. I want a coat similar to that. Closed on the front with a few straps. Tight in the arms and chest and flairs out at the bottom, and ankle length! Not calf length, not knee length--ankle length, nearly brushing the floor. Thanks, rant over. :)
"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate
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Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
Michael314 posted Sat, 18 February 2012 at 8:09 AM
Hello,
I tried that as well, as leather is made of skin. See for example the render here: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2286957&user_id=475250&np&np
(Cannot post nodes right now, as the scene is on another computer, will post them later).
Don't overdo the SSS effect, as leather is quite thick.
Best regards,
Michael
Michael314 posted Sat, 18 February 2012 at 11:55 AM
Michael314 posted Sat, 18 February 2012 at 11:56 AM
Michael314 posted Sat, 18 February 2012 at 12:01 PM
Hello,
some final explanations: (units were meters), the image map node is just a regular tilable leather texture (I think from the set "PD into leather" here at RMP).
Color can be tweaked as required.
Best regards,
Michael
ErickL88 posted Sat, 18 February 2012 at 12:04 PM
Probably not exactly what you're after, with wanting to have an SSS node in leather, but I'll just throw it in anyway ... just in case =)
Have you tried BB's Leather?
To be found here: http://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/leather
Quite amazing stuff, very flexible and versatile, I might add :)
Latexluv posted Mon, 20 February 2012 at 7:29 PM
"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate
Weapons of choice:
Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
Glitterati3D posted Mon, 20 February 2012 at 7:37 PM
GeneralNutt posted Mon, 20 February 2012 at 8:05 PM
Latexluv posted Mon, 20 February 2012 at 11:46 PM
"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate
Weapons of choice:
Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
Glitterati3D posted Tue, 21 February 2012 at 1:55 AM
Quote - Great looking model!
Thanks, GeneralNutt!
Latexluv posted Tue, 21 February 2012 at 2:32 AM
"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate
Weapons of choice:
Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8
Glitterati3D posted Tue, 21 February 2012 at 11:52 AM
The Leather Coat for M4 is in Rendo freestuff now, so anyone who wants to play around can.
MistyLaraCarrara posted Tue, 21 February 2012 at 11:58 AM
i tried using the material room wacro to add SSS to a dress.
the node says skin scatter, but it doesn't have the drop down arrow for skin, apple, etc options.
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JAFO posted Tue, 21 February 2012 at 11:59 AM
Quote - The Leather Coat for M4 is in Rendo freestuff now, so anyone who wants to play around can.
grabbin it now TYVM
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Eric Walters posted Tue, 21 February 2012 at 10:31 PM
There is a leather shader that comes with PPro2012. I don't know if it is in P9.
JAFO posted Wed, 22 February 2012 at 9:36 AM
did you guys check out Michael's gallery? im no expert but his leather looks spectacular to me....just sayin...
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