Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Victoria 4

windracer opened this issue on Mar 16, 2012 · 185 posts


windracer posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 10:21 AM

I am new to Renderosity and have a question about Victoria 4. Is this a model figure in Poser or is this something that can be purchased seperately?


Teyon posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 10:36 AM

You would get her from Daz3d.com

 


cspear posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 10:38 AM

V4 is from DAZ.


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hborre posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 10:38 AM Online Now!

DAZ3D.

http://www.daz3d.com/i/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=4783

Morph packs and characters are for purchase.


DustRider posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 12:15 PM

If you get V4, I recommend getting the Morphs++ pack as well to avoid latter disappointment. Most, not all, but most characters for V4 require at least Morphs++ to get the same figure shape.

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windracer posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 1:08 PM

Quote - If you get V4, I recommend getting the Morphs++ pack as well to avoid latter disappointment. Most, not all, but most characters for V4 require at least Morphs++ to get the same figure shape.

 

Where do I get the Morphs++pack???


windracer posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 1:10 PM

Quote - DAZ3D.

http://www.daz3d.com/i/shop/itemdetails/-/?item=4783

Morph packs and characters are for purchase.

 

I have Poser Pro 2012 (just got it in the mail and am new at using it). So how do I go about uploading Victoria 4 into Poser???


mysticeagle posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 1:12 PM

http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/-/victoria-4-2?item=4787

morphs ++ pack $29.95

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hborre posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 2:01 PM Online Now!

Since the base model is free, you register at DAZ and add V4 to your cart.  Proceed to checkout and she will be ready for download under your account.  The files are installers. 

The problem you will encounter is the V4 installers will not recognize PoserPro.exe; you will need to create either a dummy Poser.exe from a text program or use install to DAZStudio as a work around (this latter method does not sit right with me).  The forum already contain several post addressing this problem.


vilters posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 2:18 PM

You do know that having a wife is expensive?

Well, V4 is like a mistress.
Only 4 times as expensive. :-)

She will want clothes, and shoes, and different hair every week.
Other boob-jobs every month, different legs in between. 

Open your wallet,
Put some glue in it.
Close wallet.
Nail it close to be sure.
Put some srews and bolts in it.
Torque to specified value.
Send it somwhere overseas to never-ever land.

V4 is like a money sponge. Only 4 times worce.

But?

She never says no.
Is never too tired.
Does not need aspirine.

Could go on, but I"ll stay polite.

:-)

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hborre posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 3:57 PM Online Now!

Or you can be like everyone else, keep barefoot and naked.


moriador posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 4:28 PM

Quote - Or you can be like everyone else, keep barefoot and naked.

The remarkable thing is that even when she is kept like that, we dare to give her a sword!


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DustRider posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 4:34 PM

Quote - > Quote - Or you can be like everyone else, keep barefoot and naked.

The remarkable thing is that even when she is kept like that, we dare to give her a sword!

But...but....isn't that what keeps her happy?

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hborre posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 7:32 PM Online Now!

On the contrary, that's what keeps us happy.


grichter posted Fri, 16 March 2012 at 7:36 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Or you can be like everyone else, keep barefoot and naked.

The remarkable thing is that even when she is kept like that, we dare to give her a sword!

But...but....isn't that what keeps her happy?

If you want to really keep her happy, don't buy her a house to live in...she much perfers a temple to walk around in while barefoot, naked and carrying her sword! 🤤

enviro-sphere is optional :laugh:

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windracer posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 12:28 AM

Quote - Since the base model is free, you register at DAZ and add V4 to your cart.  Proceed to checkout and she will be ready for download under your account.  The files are installers. 

The problem you will encounter is the V4 installers will not recognize PoserPro.exe; you will need to create either a dummy Poser.exe from a text program or use install to DAZStudio as a work around (this latter method does not sit right with me).  The forum already contain several post addressing this problem.

 

Okay... how do you go about creating a dummy Poser.exe from a text program??? I'm a novice when it comes to such things.


mysticeagle posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 6:25 AM

open word pad, save a blank document as poser.exe into the main poser folder and bingo, installer will recognise the location

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hborre posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 7:34 AM Online Now!

Actually, to be more specific, WordPad will create a text file as such 'Poser.txt'.  Change the txt extension to exe and place that into your parent destination folder where a runtime folder exists.


windracer posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 8:20 AM

Quote - open word pad, save a blank document as poser.exe into the main poser folder and bingo, installer will recognise the location

Okay... once again, I'm a novice at this, so "word pad"??? And "save a blank document"??? Also... how do I go about saving a blank document as "poser.exe" into the main poser folder?


windracer posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 8:23 AM

Quote - Actually, to be more specific, WordPad will create a text file as such 'Poser.txt'.  Change the txt extension to exe and place that into your parent destination folder where a runtime folder exists.

Okay... where do I locate "WordPad"? And are you saying that when changing the txt in "Poser.txt" to exe, then it would appear as "Poser.exe" instead of "Poser.txt"? I want to be sure about this... want to get it right.


hborre posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 10:31 AM Online Now!

If you are using Windows, you should find either Notepad or Wordpad programs under Accessories.  Open either program, you will get a new blank page.  Go to File on the taskbar and click save.  Navigate to the desktop and type Poser in the name field.  Hit save.  Close the program.  Select the program you just save on your desktop, right click on the mouse to open the menu and highlight rename.  Select only the extension and change it from txt or doc to exe.  You will get a warning about renaming the file but just click ok and proceed.  The file will change into a Poser icon as if it is an actual execution program.


jjroland posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 10:44 AM

Thanks for this info, it has saved me frustration of finding out later that I was going to have trouble with my v4 installs.

"where is wordpad" gave me an lolol - thanks for that :)


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mysticeagle posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 2:26 PM

just dont delete the original poser exe though............

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SteveJax posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 3:00 PM

There is no "Original" poser.exe in Poser Pro 2012 MysticEagle. That's the point of creating a dummy.


nruddock posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 3:49 PM

The easiest thing is to copy any other EXE and rename, or select the D|S option when installing (as this avoids the check for the EXE).

If you use the blank text file method, you'll need to have viewing extensions turned on or you won't be able to rename the file correctly (if you don't know how to show extensions, use either of the other methods).


jestmart posted Sat, 17 March 2012 at 9:36 PM

The whole search for Poser.exe is outdated since you don't want your content in the Porgram Files folders.  You are better off creating a new folder for the DAZ figures and use the DAZ Studio option to point the installer to that folder.  You will then have to add that folder to Poser's library directory.


A_Sunbeam posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 4:11 AM

And note too that V4 has an awful lot of sisters (morphs) who are clamouring for you to buy them ...


windracer posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 8:34 AM

Quote - The whole search for Poser.exe is outdated since you don't want your content in the Porgram Files folders.  You are better off creating a new folder for the DAZ figures and use the DAZ Studio option to point the installer to that folder.  You will then have to add that folder to Poser's library directory.

Okay... in creating a new folder for the DAZ figures and using the DAZ Studio option to point the installer to that folder, where is the DAZ Studio option, in DAZ Studio or in Poser???  Also, how would you go about adding that new folder to Poser's library directory? I'm new at this and want to get it right.


hborre posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 11:46 AM Online Now!

Except that you will include all the DAZStudio files installed on your HD.  Not a practical solution if you do not intend to install DAZStudio at all.  A waste of disk space. 

The options are in your installer; you need to create your folder at a convenient location for easy access. 

But, I think before you proceed with this installation, what OS are you using and how is PP2012 installed on your machine?  Did you use default settings, where is your primary runtime located, etc?  As much practical information you can give.  ATM, we are giving advice without important information which you neglected to provide.  We can guide you better with this info and avoid headaches later when you attempt use the app.


hborre posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 11:51 AM Online Now!

This is how you add a new external runtime folder to your library.

WandW posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 12:34 PM

If you are using V4 (or any DAZ Generation 4 figure) in an external runtime, make sure that the Library Search in Poser's General Preferences is set to 'Deep' (it may be set to Deep by default in PP2012)...

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philebus posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 1:06 PM

The Morphs++ package has been mentioned but some of the morph packages can be a pain to track down in the DAZ store now. So, here's a list of the basic items that you may wish to collect up, along with the new product numbers (DAZ changed their product numbering a while back). These should give you much of what you will need to create any number of characters. You should also check out Blackhearted's store here, as well as Posermatic's store and and at DAZ, and I also use JoeQuick's face morphs for V4 and M4 (sold here). I'll leave you to search for hair and clothes.

Victoria 4.2 Base 4783

Victoria 4.2 Muscle Morphs 3940

Victoria 4.2 Morphs ++ 4787

Stephanie 4 Elite Base 9357

V4 Elite Body Shapes 7403 (included in the V4 Elite Bundle 7417)

Aiko 4 Base 5980

She Freak V4 9499

The GIRL 4 Base 8390

V4 Elite: Reby Sky 10304

 

And should you want her to have a male partner:

Michael 4 Base 7877

Michael 4 Morphs++ 7878

M4 Elite Body Shapes 9300 (included in the M4 Elite Bundle 9675)

Michael 4 Muscle Morphs 9579

The Freak 4 Base 8436

Hiro 4 Base 8070

 

Finally, for non-human characters:

Victoria 4.2 Creature Creator Morphs 5280

Victoria 4.2 Creature Creator Add Ons 5281

Michael 4 Creature Creator Morphs 8653

Michael 4 Creature Creator Add Ons 9612

V4/M4 Creature Creator Bundle (with all of the above) 9611

 

If you're thinking "money pit", then you're spot on. Of course, a lot of us have been collecting the add-ons since the figure's release and had the advantage that some of these sets were free until DAZ had a change of policy.


windracer posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 1:50 PM

Quote - Except that you will include all the DAZStudio files installed on your HD.  Not a practical solution if you do not intend to install DAZStudio at all.  A waste of disk space. 

The options are in your installer; you need to create your folder at a convenient location for easy access. 

But, I think before you proceed with this installation, what OS are you using and how is PP2012 installed on your machine?  Did you use default settings, where is your primary runtime located, etc?  As much practical information you can give.  ATM, we are giving advice without important information which you neglected to provide.  We can guide you better with this info and avoid headaches later when you attempt use the app.

I downloaded Poser Pro 2012 straight from the DVD and didn't use any default settings as far as I know. Also am not sure where the primary runtime is located. Like I said, I'm new to this, but would like to be able to proceed. Sorry for all the trouble.


windracer posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 2:18 PM

Quote - This is how you add a new external runtime folder to your library.

Poser Pro 2012 is located in my computer's Locat Disks, Program Files under Smith Micro and my primary Runtime folder is located in the Poser Pro 2012 folder. I hope that helps.


hborre posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 4:43 PM Online Now!

Under what OS?


windracer posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 5:31 PM

Quote - Under what OS?

Okay... what does OS stand for?


hborre posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 6:00 PM Online Now!

Operating System. Windows?  MAC?


jestmart posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 9:32 PM

Choosing the DAZ Studio instead of Poser option in the installer does not change what is installed.  It simply skips the Poser.exe search and gives the user the option to point to any folder they want.  The reason I strongly suggest having the DAZ Gen4 figures in their own folder is their morhs and add ons need to be installed to the same folder the figures are in.  Once the morphs are installed they have to be initialized, some times they may even need to re-initialized.  Having everthing for them in one folder can make it easier to find the initialization .bat file.


windracer posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 10:11 PM

Quote - Operating System. Windows?  MAC?

 

Windows Vista.


windracer posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 10:17 PM

Quote - Choosing the DAZ Studio instead of Poser option in the installer does not change what is installed.  It simply skips the Poser.exe search and gives the user the option to point to any folder they want.  The reason I strongly suggest having the DAZ Gen4 figures in their own folder is their morhs and add ons need to be installed to the same folder the figures are in.  Once the morphs are installed they have to be initialized, some times they may even need to re-initialized.  Having everthing for them in one folder can make it easier to find the initialization .bat file.

Okay... I've already put the V4 figures in their own folder, so how do I find the initialization.bat file?


hborre posted Sun, 18 March 2012 at 10:30 PM Online Now!

Initialization occurs at the end of the installation, it prompts you to initialize.  You should have an update icon on your desktop.  I would recommend running that and running it every time you install a new morph pack.


estherau posted Mon, 19 March 2012 at 3:05 AM

Has anyone mentioned V4wm as yet?  That is a great thing to get once you have V4.

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windracer posted Mon, 19 March 2012 at 8:55 AM

Quote - Initialization occurs at the end of the installation, it prompts you to initialize.  You should have an update icon on your desktop.  I would recommend running that and running it every time you install a new morph pack.

Yes... the update icon is on my desktop and I ran that... so what do I do next? I still don't have V4 in Poser Pro 2012 yet.


estherau posted Mon, 19 March 2012 at 9:02 AM

If you've put her in her own external runtime you have to add that runtime into poser now.

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hborre posted Mon, 19 March 2012 at 9:05 AM Online Now!

As per the illustration posted earlier by me.


Eric Walters posted Mon, 19 March 2012 at 2:27 PM

 She can be high maintenance! LOL!

 

There are a few things that are free that help out V4 and her appearance. She will appreciate it! If you follow the link at the bottom of my post-you will find a way to help her bend in more realistic ways



windracer posted Tue, 20 March 2012 at 1:01 AM

Quote - As per the illustration posted earlier by me.

 

Okay, my next question is how do I create a runtime folder with the items I have so that they can be uploaded into Poser Pro 2012?


estherau posted Tue, 20 March 2012 at 7:52 AM

name a folder as Poser_V4 or something and then when you run the daz installers, choose that folder as your install folder, then from within poser go to the little folder with the plus sign above your libraries list and click add and navigate to that Poser_V4 folder.

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hborre posted Tue, 20 March 2012 at 9:22 AM Online Now!

Quote - Okay... I've already put the V4 figures in their own folder, so how do I find the initialization.bat file?

Okay, in this post you claimed to already have created a folder.  You are not explaining yourself thoroughly so we may accurately address your problems and concerns.  I really recommend that you take the moment to list, stepwise, your workflow for installing V4.  If you omit details, we are going to assume, incorrectly, that you are doing things properly.  Most of us have been down this road and can help tremendously, but the lack of information will royally screw up your installation. 

Don't want to be mean here, but we do need better details before we can proceed.


estherau posted Tue, 20 March 2012 at 5:29 PM

Maybe it is something simple like he just hasn't added the folder from within poser.

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hborre posted Tue, 20 March 2012 at 6:52 PM Online Now!

The frustration here, Esther, is the amount of information the OP is not providing for us to thoroughly provide accurate help.  At the moment, it sounds like the execution files have been placed into a folder but not installed into Poser yet.


windracer posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 12:07 AM

Quote - The frustration here, Esther, is the amount of information the OP is not providing for us to thoroughly provide accurate help.  At the moment, it sounds like the execution files have been placed into a folder but not installed into Poser yet.

And my point is that I've been trying to tell you that I am new to this and don't have a full understanding of what needs to be done. You seem to believe that I do and with that way of thinking... expect me to explain fully, with total understanding what you want me to tell you and I don't have total understanding of what's needed to be done. For the most part how can I install the execution files into Poser when I don't have the understanding of how to do so. If I did, I might have finally done what's needed to be done by now.


estherau posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 6:17 AM

It's okay, we'll sort it out and get your V4 working for you.  Do you have a PC or a mac?  Are you able to take screen caps of a few of the steps on your way to attempted installation, or if not just show a screen cap of your V4 folder structure.

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windracer posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 8:42 AM

Quote - It's okay, we'll sort it out and get your V4 working for you.  Do you have a PC or a mac?  Are you able to take screen caps of a few of the steps on your way to attempted installation, or if not just show a screen cap of your V4 folder structure.

Love esther

I believe my main problem is creating a "Runtime folder" with the proper items in it. I don't seem to be about to download anything into Poser Pro 2012 without a runtime folder. Whatever I download onto my computer, I don't know how to transfer (if that's the right word) the items into Poser Pro 2012.

I have a PC, Windows Vista and I'm not sure how to take screen caps or show them. So if you have any suggestions on how I might be able to do so, please let me know.


hborre posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 9:36 AM Online Now!

Let's start with screen capture.  This is, at least, the best way to literally show us your set up, problems, etc.  At the top row of your keyboard, on the right side of the function keys, is a button calledPrint Scrn.  This take a snapshot of your monitor and save it in clipboard memory.  You will need a program to paste that clipboard image, usually PowerPoint is a safe bet or Microsoft Word.  Even Photoshop or GIMP may serve well. 

If you don't have either of those programs, IRViewer is an excellent freeware for viewing, resizing and converting images.  Open the program into a blank page and paste your clipboard image into it.  Unfortunely, the problem with Print Scrn is you capture everything on your monitor screen and you will need to crop the image to isolate what you want to post.  I, personally, use SnagIt; I can select what to capture and edit it in the same program.

Once you save your image to disk, at the bottom of the forum posts, you will see a field entitled Attach a File:.  It is here that you will upload your image for post display.

To be continued....


windracer posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 9:51 AM

Quote - Let's start with screen capture.  This is, at least, the best way to literally show us your set up, problems, etc.  At the top row of your keyboard, on the right side of the function keys, is a button calledPrint Scrn.  This take a snapshot of your monitor and save it in clipboard memory.  You will need a program to paste that clipboard image, usually PowerPoint is a safe bet or Microsoft Word.  Even Photoshop or GIMP may serve well. 

If you don't have either of those programs, IRViewer is an excellent freeware for viewing, resizing and converting images.  Open the program into a blank page and paste your clipboard image into it.  Unfortunely, the problem with Print Scrn is you capture everything on your monitor screen and you will need to crop the image to isolate what you want to post.  I, personally, use SnagIt; I can select what to capture and edit it in the same program.

Once you save your image to disk, at the bottom of the forum posts, you will see a field entitled Attach a File:.  It is here that you will upload your image for post display.

To be continued....

  As I stated in the last post, I believe my main problem is in setting up a "Runtime" or "Runtimes". I am only guessing here, but maybe I am supposed to set up some sort of external "Runtime" that can be downloaded or added into a folder in Poser... correct me if I'm wrong about that statement. Otherwise, as far as taking and upload images of the problems I am having, I'm not sure of how or where to start. All I know is that I tried to put my V4 items into a folder that could be placed in a Runtime folder so that Poser could "capture" (wrong word?) and upload the items. If that was not the proper way to do it, then I am not sure of the proper way of doing it.

 


windracer posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 10:01 AM

Quote - Let's start with screen capture.  This is, at least, the best way to literally show us your set up, problems, etc.  At the top row of your keyboard, on the right side of the function keys, is a button calledPrint Scrn.  This take a snapshot of your monitor and save it in clipboard memory.  You will need a program to paste that clipboard image, usually PowerPoint is a safe bet or Microsoft Word.  Even Photoshop or GIMP may serve well. 

If you don't have either of those programs, IRViewer is an excellent freeware for viewing, resizing and converting images.  Open the program into a blank page and paste your clipboard image into it.  Unfortunely, the problem with Print Scrn is you capture everything on your monitor screen and you will need to crop the image to isolate what you want to post.  I, personally, use SnagIt; I can select what to capture and edit it in the same program.

Once you save your image to disk, at the bottom of the forum posts, you will see a field entitled Attach a File:.  It is here that you will upload your image for post display.

To be continued....

I tried pressing the Print Sc button and get nothing but the computer sending the screen back a page.. When I pressed the button and shift athe same time, it returned the page to the original page I left off at. If I'm pressing the button wrong, please let me know.


hborre posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 10:05 AM Online Now!

Next question, did you double click the V4 installer and installed her into a folder?  According to a previous response, it sounds that you did just that, but I want to verify this step. 

And what is the name of this folder?


windracer posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 12:13 PM

Quote - Next question, did you double click the V4 installer and installed her into a folder?  According to a previous response, it sounds that you did just that, but I want to verify this step. 

And what is the name of this folder?

Right now, the V4 figure folder is located in my Documents folder in a folder called, "DAZ figures V4". I have "Victoria 4 Power Loader and Victoria 4 Power Loader (2)... but I don't have "V4 installer" in that folder. I'm not sure if the Power Loader and the installer is the same thing or not. If it isn't, how do I go about getting the installer???


hborre posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 12:31 PM Online Now!

The Power Loaders are only exclusive to DAZStudio.  They are not the same as the V4 Base installer and you do not need them for Poser.  You should have downloaded Victoria 4 Base installer at the same time.  I am not at my own computer to give you the exact name of that file.  If you did not download that particular installer, log back into DAZ3D and check your account for any files you missed.  You should have a total of 3 files: 1 for Poser, 1 for DAZStudio, and the Power Loader.

If your download account is empty, then you will need to reset it within DAZ to make it accessible again.


estherau posted Wed, 21 March 2012 at 5:45 PM

then, without using poser, just on your computer, create a new folder where you want to keep external runtimes and place a folder in there and name it V4stuff.  You do not need to create a folder called runtime inside that as the daz installers will do it.

Run your daz installer and when it asks where you want to install navigate through the installer to your V4stuff folder, and then your daz installers will install all the V4 stuff there.

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windracer posted Thu, 22 March 2012 at 12:53 AM

Quote - The Power Loaders are only exclusive to DAZStudio.  They are not the same as the V4 Base installer and you do not need them for Poser.  You should have downloaded Victoria 4 Base installer at the same time.  I am not at my own computer to give you the exact name of that file.  If you did not download that particular installer, log back into DAZ3D and check your account for any files you missed.  You should have a total of 3 files: 1 for Poser, 1 for DAZStudio, and the Power Loader.

If your download account is empty, then you will need to reset it within DAZ to make it accessible again.

 

I have Victoria 4 Base, but it's not called Victoria 4 Base installer. If what I have is the installer, then where do I go from there?


hborre posted Thu, 22 March 2012 at 9:58 AM Online Now!

Double-click the installer and follow the prompts.  Make certain you direct it to the folder you created for V4.  The installer will generate the necessary folders and files.


windracer posted Thu, 22 March 2012 at 11:30 AM

Quote - Double-click the installer and follow the prompts.  Make certain you direct it to the folder you created for V4.  The installer will generate the necessary folders and files.

So you're saying that Victoria 4 Base is the installer, am I correct? Otherwise, you didn't say so.


hborre posted Thu, 22 March 2012 at 11:44 AM Online Now!

Yes. 


windracer posted Fri, 23 March 2012 at 12:07 PM

Quote - Yes. 

 

Okay... Victoria 4 is now on Poser Pro 2012. Thank you for helping me out, but I need to find out how to create a Runtime folder.

I also need to find out how to "unzip" the "zip" files of products purchased from Renderosity.com.


estherau posted Fri, 23 March 2012 at 2:50 PM

a runtime folder is created automatically from the installer. Just make an empty folder and then install into that, or if you did (as I think you said you have) decide not to make an external runtime by creating the empty folder and running the installer whilst pointing it at that, then you just install into your poser pro 2012 folder as I think you have done.  there is already a runtime folder in there and another one in your content folder which you could just search.  ie if you have installed poser pro 2012 correctly before installing V4 you should have a poser content folder.  If you search your computer for the word milkman you should find it, as there is something in the content called milkman andy.  you could run your daz installers and install into the Poser pro 2012 content folder if you wanted.

Love esther

PS I would just install her into her own folder outside poser and let the daz installers create a runtime, then from with in poser I would add that folder to my libraries.

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hborre posted Fri, 23 March 2012 at 3:33 PM Online Now!

However, Poser will create a runtime folder with all the subfolder by just linking the parent folder to Poser itself.  Create a blank folder, for example Props, somewhere on your hard drive and easily accessible.  Link it to Poser as illustrated in my previous post.  When you open that original folder again in your Windows browser, you will see all the necessary folders required by the Poser Library. 

IIRC, there is a runtime template somewhere in the freestuff section.


windracer posted Sat, 24 March 2012 at 12:06 AM

Quote - However, Poser will create a runtime folder with all the subfolder by just linking the parent folder to Poser itself.  Create a blank folder, for example Props, somewhere on your hard drive and easily accessible.  Link it to Poser as illustrated in my previous post.  When you open that original folder again in your Windows browser, you will see all the necessary folders required by the Poser Library. 

IIRC, there is a runtime template somewhere in the freestuff section.

I just went to that section and clicked on "download item". It took me to a site that said it was no longer available.


windracer posted Sat, 24 March 2012 at 12:12 AM

I also need to find out how to "unzip" the "zip" files of products I purchased from Renderosity.


estherau posted Sat, 24 March 2012 at 7:13 AM

just double click them and they unzip then move them into your folder that you keep all your external runtimes in, then open poser and there is a picture of a folder at the top of your libraries folder in poser and click the one with the plus sign, then navigate to your folder that was unzipped, and that will be added as an external runtime.

Love esther

PS u r going to kick yourself when you get it and see how easy this all is.

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windracer posted Sat, 24 March 2012 at 8:09 AM

Quote - just double click them and they unzip then move them into your folder that you keep all your external runtimes in, then open poser and there is a picture of a folder at the top of your libraries folder in poser and click the one with the plus sign, then navigate to your folder that was unzipped, and that will be added as an external runtime.

Love esther

PS u r going to kick yourself when you get it and see how easy this all is.

Okay... right now I'm having trouble getting one "external runtime" set up, let alone having several of them. I know once I get my head around that, I'll probably kick myself, but until then....


windracer posted Sat, 24 March 2012 at 8:12 AM

Quote - However, Poser will create a runtime folder with all the subfolder by just linking the parent folder to Poser itself.  Create a blank folder, for example Props, somewhere on your hard drive and easily accessible.  Link it to Poser as illustrated in my previous post.  When you open that original folder again in your Windows browser, you will see all the necessary folders required by the Poser Library. 

IIRC, there is a runtime template somewhere in the freestuff section.

How do you "link" the parent folder and what exactly is the parent folder??? I have to know what the parent folder is before I can link it to Poser, am I correct?


hborre posted Sat, 24 March 2012 at 8:58 AM Online Now!

Parent folder is exactly what it describes, the main folder in which all the other subfolders are created.  This is similar to the V4 folder you created.  See illustration; the parent folder in this case is called *My Poser*.  It has a runtime folder already created within.  Linking to Poser is the same as you did with your V4 folder and as illustrated in earlier posts.

hborre posted Sat, 24 March 2012 at 9:42 AM Online Now!

This is how your external runtime folders should look.  I call this one PoserStuff, but you can label it anyway you like especially if you are separating you content by models or category.  This structure should be the same for most content purchases; if it doesn't, the vendor did not package the files correctly.  You will see these problems in free content rather than purchase.  It is always a good idea to check purchases and downloads before placing them into their final runtime folder.

You can recreate this anywhere you like and link to Poser as described previously. 


windracer posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 10:14 AM

Quote - just double click them and they unzip then move them into your folder that you keep all your external runtimes in, then open poser and there is a picture of a folder at the top of your libraries folder in poser and click the one with the plus sign, then navigate to your folder that was unzipped, and that will be added as an external runtime.

Love esther

PS u r going to kick yourself when you get it and see how easy this all is.

What's been happening is that the items I purchased through Renderosity when double clicked opens Poser Pro2012 and does not unzip and/or then move into a folder of any kind. I'm not sure of why it opens Poser, but I don't want to purchase any more items from Renderosity until I can download the items into Poser.


hborre posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 10:40 AM Online Now!

You must be clicking on a Poser related file (i.e., PZ2) which will open Poser.  How have you been opening your zip files?  Double-clicking on such files will open a separate browser window.  You need to extract the compressed files into a folder containing a runtime.  It will not do it automatically.  Like all compression programs, this is a manual installation; perhaps advanced settings would do it for you, but you must know that application thoroughly to do it.  If everything looks correct, then move that runtime folder into it's final destination.

Many users will recommend to decompress into a temporary folder and check for proper folder naming and placement.  Most vendors do comply, but new vendors and freebies may not follow the proper Poser hierarchy.  At which point, you may need to move files around and/or correct file scripts to point at the correct textures or objects.  A royal mess for a newbie.


windracer posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 11:31 AM

Quote - You must be clicking on a Poser related file (i.e., PZ2) which will open Poser.  How have you been opening your zip files?  Double-clicking on such files will open a separate browser window.  You need to extract the compressed files into a folder containing a runtime.  It will not do it automatically.  Like all compression programs, this is a manual installation; perhaps advanced settings would do it for you, but you must know that application thoroughly to do it.  If everything looks correct, then move that runtime folder into it's final destination.

Many users will recommend to decompress into a temporary folder and check for proper folder naming and placement.  Most vendors do comply, but new vendors and freebies may not follow the proper Poser hierarchy.  At which point, you may need to move files around and/or correct file scripts to point at the correct textures or objects.  A royal mess for a newbie.

Okay... as a "newbie", I do not know how to decompress (is that another name for "unzipping"???). That's why I don't know what's happening when I click on the purchased items as they do not open on their own. I am not able to unzip or open them proper and would like to know how to do so. As I have mentioned before... I am new to this.


hborre posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 12:00 PM Online Now!

Unzipping, decompressing is the same.  The same for zipped and compressed.  ATM, I am not at my Windows 7 machine to give you proper instructions how to decompress (unzip) a file properly.  Foe me, it will be this evening.


EClark1894 posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 12:02 PM

Step 1.

Shut off your PC.

Step 2.

Trash it.

Step 3.

Get a Mac.

Just kidding.




hborre posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 12:08 PM Online Now!

Troublemaker, LOL.


jestmart posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 2:51 PM

Right click on the zip and check what option you have under Open With.  If you didn't download and install a zip utility like 7-Zip then the only options will likely be your browser or Windows Explorer.  With Windows 7 Explorer can view a zip file as if it where just another folder.  So open the zip with Explorer then in the side bar navigate to folder you want the zip file's content in and drag & drop the content into the real folder.


hborre posted Mon, 26 March 2012 at 3:13 PM Online Now!

This should be the same for Vista.


windracer posted Wed, 28 March 2012 at 9:07 AM

Quote - Right click on the zip and check what option you have under Open With.  If you didn't download and install a zip utility like 7-Zip then the only options will likely be your browser or Windows Explorer.  With Windows 7 Explorer can view a zip file as if it where just another folder.  So open the zip with Explorer then in the side bar navigate to folder you want the zip file's content in and drag & drop the content into the real folder.

I have Windows Vista (not 7) so how do I unzip with Vista???


hborre posted Wed, 28 March 2012 at 9:12 AM Online Now!

Have you tried the suggestion in Vista yet?


windracer posted Wed, 28 March 2012 at 9:49 AM

Quote - Have you tried the suggestion in Vista yet?

Yes, but when I "right clicked", the sidebar suggestions were "Open", "Open in new window", "Open in new tab", "Save link as"... So what should I do from there?


hborre posted Wed, 28 March 2012 at 9:55 AM Online Now!

Open.


jestmart posted Wed, 28 March 2012 at 9:43 PM

Are you using Windows Explorer?  The options you are getting are typical of Internet Explorer.  Windows is the little Folder icon,  Internet is little Blue e icon.


windracer posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 8:49 AM

Quote - Are you using Windows Explorer?  The options you are getting are typical of Internet Explorer.  Windows is the little Folder icon,  Internet is little Blue e icon.

Where would the "Windows Exploer" Folder icon be located???


windracer posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 8:51 AM

Quote - Open.

I clicked Open and what happens is that it lauches Poser Pro 2012 and that's all it does. It doesn't download anything to it and that happened every time I'd "Open" any of the products.


hborre posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 11:00 AM Online Now!

At this point, we really need a screen capture of what you are looking at and doing for us to determine the right course of action.  Right now, we are chasing windmills trying to determine what is going on through descriptive text and the thread is going nowhere.


windracer posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 11:39 AM

Quote - At this point, we really need a screen capture of what you are looking at and doing for us to determine the right course of action.  Right now, we are chasing windmills trying to determine what is going on through descriptive text and the thread is going nowhere.

And as I told you before... I couldn't perform a "screen capture". I am sorry that I cannot comfirm to what you ask for everytime, but I do believe that if you or someone could instruct me... step-by-step... on how to create a "Runtime" folder, I just might be on step closer to my goal.


hborre posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 12:58 PM Online Now!

I did post an image which illustrate the hierarchy of a runtime folder.  It isn't hard to figure out.  Please study it for a moment and let us know what you don't understand about it.  Then we can proceed with simplified instructions.


Teyon posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 1:20 PM

The simplest way to make an external runtime folder is to:

  1. Make sure you're viewing your Desktop.

  2. Right click on an open space in your desktop.

  3. Choose: New Folder  from the menu that appears.

  4. Rename the new folder and call it, Runtime

You are now done creating an external runtime folder.

I've made a video illustrating the process:

http://youtu.be/Gum2-FMjdd0

 

 

Now, are you new to using computers? I ask, because your knowledge of the computer you are using seems limited at best. This will complicate helping you, as many people here assume some prior knowledge of computers is possessed when attempting to install software and other items to a computer yourself. If you are new to computers and find some or all of the explanations provided difficult, you may wish to consider seeking the help of someone you know who is familiar with modern technology and can show you the steps we've outlined.

As I said, many people here assume you have some working knowledge of computers. They don't know you and can only go by what you're telling them. So please be as detailed in explanation of what you're attempting and the results you are getting as possible. Otherwise, you will find those helping you will become agitated or worse, give you information that is unrelated to your problem becuase you did not explain it fully.


Teyon posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 2:01 PM

Attached Link: http://youtu.be/o-9ljhnWp24

Another video to help after you've made the desktop runtime

http://youtu.be/o-9ljhnWp24

 

I find the simpler the method used - even if it results in some files you don't need - the easier it is for some to understand.


Teyon posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 2:17 PM

Attached Link: http://youtu.be/yEPrvmn_dMI

And here is loading both a new runtime and Victoria into Poser

http://youtu.be/yEPrvmn_dMI

 

I trust this helps. Again, in the future, please explain as much as possible what your problem is and what you've done to correct it.  For screen grabs, hit the Print Screen key on your keyboard (assuming you have that key) and then go to START>ALL PROGRAMS> ACCESSORIES>PAINT.   Then hit the button that says PASTE. This will paste a copy of your screen at the time you hit the Print Screen key.  You can then save this file out and post it.

 

Lastly, I would suggest - strongly - that you  upgrade to Windows 7 when you get the chance. It is a significantly better experience than Vista and since Windows 8 will probably be released this year or early next year, you'll find fewer and fewer programs compatible with Vista.


jestmart posted Thu, 29 March 2012 at 2:41 PM

I have Windows 7 so the instructions and names I give may be a little different with Vista.  The icon should be on your Task Bar at the bottom of the screen.  If you don't have a Task Bar then click the Start button, click Control Panel then Appearance & Personalization then Task Bar & Start Menu.  In the new menu window make sure the Lock Task Bar is checked and click OK.  Go back to Control Panel click Programs then Default Programs then Set Associations.  A new window will open and take a few seconds to load up all the extensions.  Scroll down to .zip and see what program is linked, I suspect that somehow Poser got associatied with it.  Click on the line to highlight it then click the Change Program button at the top.  This time Windows Explorre should be an option so click it then Ok. Now close the Control Panel and follow the directions given earlier.

Damn, the ebot link took me to page 3 and I didn't even notice there was a page 4 and all the posts before mine!


windracer posted Fri, 30 March 2012 at 11:35 AM

Quote - I did post an image which illustrate the hierarchy of a runtime folder.  It isn't hard to figure out.  Please study it for a moment and let us know what you don't understand about it.  Then we can proceed with simplified instructions.

It is hard to figure out if one hasn't applied the process before. The image is not enough for me to go by... it is not an explanation... just an image... no words to go by. Sorry that I am not up on what you are trying to explain, as far as images go. Also, if you might re-apply the image and add instructions below it, that could help, but we'll see. Sorry.


windracer posted Fri, 30 March 2012 at 11:46 AM

Quote - And here is loading both a new runtime and Victoria into Poser

http://youtu.be/yEPrvmn_dMI

 

I trust this helps. Again, in the future, please explain as much as possible what your problem is and what you've done to correct it.  For screen grabs, hit the Print Screen key on your keyboard (assuming you have that key) and then go to START>ALL PROGRAMS> ACCESSORIES>PAINT.   Then hit the button that says PASTE. This will paste a copy of your screen at the time you hit the Print Screen key.  You can then save this file out and post it.

 

Lastly, I would suggest - strongly - that you  upgrade to Windows 7 when you get the chance. It is a significantly better experience than Vista and since Windows 8 will probably be released this year or early next year, you'll find fewer and fewer programs compatible with Vista.

Thank you very much. Your video was most helpful, but I do have one major problem... how to download "Renderosity" products into Poser Pro 2012. I was able to download them into my "download" folder after learning how to do so, but wasn't able to download them into Poser Pro 2012.


moriador posted Fri, 30 March 2012 at 12:57 PM

Quote - Thank you very much. Your video was most helpful, but I do have one major problem... how to download "Renderosity" products into Poser Pro 2012. I was able to download them into my "download" folder after learning how to do so, but wasn't able to download them into Poser Pro 2012.

I think Poser has a "Dowloads" tab or folder.  You can completely ignore it.

You do not need to download anything into Poser. You can just click and drag folders into the Poser runtime directory. OR you can create a runtime directory outside of the directory which contains Poser and use Poser (the program itself) to link to it.

If you are not sure how to create folders or how to move or copy them, then you will need to spend some serious quality time reading Windows help files. Here are a couple to get you started:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Files-and-folders-recommended-links

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Demo-Working-with-files-and-folders

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Compress-and-uncompress-files-zip-files

If you understand how to uncompress, find, move, copy, and rename files in Windows Vista, then the picture of Windows Explorer (which someone already posted) that shows where to locate the "Runtime" folder and how to organize it should make sense to you.


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estherau posted Fri, 30 March 2012 at 5:20 PM

Yes, I agree - once youy have downloaded the folder just open it and see if it is a runtime then put the runtime in a folder and put that folder somewhere on your computer, then open poser and locate that folder from within poser to add it.

Love esther

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windracer posted Sat, 31 March 2012 at 8:39 AM

Quote - The simplest way to make an external runtime folder is to:

  1. Make sure you're viewing your Desktop.

  2. Right click on an open space in your desktop.

  3. Choose: New Folder  from the menu that appears.

  4. Rename the new folder and call it, Runtime

You are now done creating an external runtime folder.

I've made a video illustrating the process:

http://youtu.be/Gum2-FMjdd0

 

 

Now, are you new to using computers? I ask, because your knowledge of the computer you are using seems limited at best. This will complicate helping you, as many people here assume some prior knowledge of computers is possessed when attempting to install software and other items to a computer yourself. If you are new to computers and find some or all of the explanations provided difficult, you may wish to consider seeking the help of someone you know who is familiar with modern technology and can show you the steps we've outlined.

As I said, many people here assume you have some working knowledge of computers. They don't know you and can only go by what you're telling them. So please be as detailed in explanation of what you're attempting and the results you are getting as possible. Otherwise, you will find those helping you will become agitated or worse, give you information that is unrelated to your problem becuase you did not explain it fully.

I followed your procedures of creating a Runtime folder on my desktop and everything went well until the Victoria 4 image came up on Poser. The only problem, as far as I can see, is that my image of Victoria 4 doesn't look like your image does. The flesh tone isn't there... the mesh underwear isn't there... nor is the short hair or eyes. I'm not sure what didn't happen correctly, but it didn't turn out the way yours did. Other than that, following your procedures did work as far as creating an external Runtime on my desktop.


estherau posted Sat, 31 March 2012 at 8:54 AM

did you open the V4 from within poser to see her in poser?  I am sure you would have which is good.  Dunno why she doesn't have her materials applied.

Well if you go now to your materials folder with the V4 selected, can you apply a material to her?

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Teyon posted Sun, 01 April 2012 at 12:51 PM

I'm using Vicky 4.2 (or is that 4.1?)  you have Vicky 4. The process should be the same for both but there is likely some differences between the two versions. It is entirely likely that the textures for Vicky 4.2 are not the same for Vicky 4.  As long as you're able to load the figure into Poser, everything worked as it should.


hborre posted Sun, 01 April 2012 at 2:22 PM Online Now!

The only V4 available is V4.2.


Teyon posted Sun, 01 April 2012 at 2:32 PM

Ah, so the original Vicky 4 is no longer available? Didn't know. I thought Vicky 4 base was the original Vicky 4 before the .2 update. At anyrate, if the figure loads in the scene, then you've probably done everything correctly. Make sure your display mode is set to Texture Preview. It's the sphere that looks like the image attached.

windracer posted Mon, 02 April 2012 at 9:52 AM

Quote - I'm using Vicky 4.2 (or is that 4.1?)  you have Vicky 4. The process should be the same for both but there is likely some differences between the two versions. It is entirely likely that the textures for Vicky 4.2 are not the same for Vicky 4.  As long as you're able to load the figure into Poser, everything worked as it should.

The image displayed before uploading the application is of Victoria 4.2, but when the actual digital image is uploaded, it doesn't look like yours did in your tutorial... not sure why. It's not detailed at all and is bald.


windracer posted Mon, 02 April 2012 at 9:55 AM

Quote - Ah, so the original Vicky 4 is no longer available? Didn't know. I thought Vicky 4 base was the original Vicky 4 before the .2 update. At anyrate, if the figure loads in the scene, then you've probably done everything correctly. Make sure your display mode is set to Texture Preview. It's the sphere that looks like the image attached.

The display mode shows a blank screen with no visible image. I usually have to click the "Smooth Shaded" sphere to see anything... is that how it's supposed to be???


Teyon posted Mon, 02 April 2012 at 10:10 AM

Quote - > Quote - I'm using Vicky 4.2 (or is that 4.1?)  you have Vicky 4. The process should be the same for both but there is likely some differences between the two versions. It is entirely likely that the textures for Vicky 4.2 are not the same for Vicky 4.  As long as you're able to load the figure into Poser, everything worked as it should.

The image displayed before uploading the application is of Victoria 4.2, but when the actual digital image is uploaded, it doesn't look like yours did in your tutorial... not sure why. It's not detailed at all and is bald.

 

The only reason you see anything on the model in my video is because she loaded with textures. She's bald too - the hair is painted on, not actual hair. So is the underwear if I recall.  So perhaps your video card does not support textured preview? I don't know anyhting about your system so I can't really tell you.

 

If she loads into your scene, do a render and see what happens.  To do that go to the menu and choose  RENDER and in the drop down menu that appears choose RENDER again. She should look similar to my textured preview


windracer posted Wed, 04 April 2012 at 12:31 AM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I'm using Vicky 4.2 (or is that 4.1?)  you have Vicky 4. The process should be the same for both but there is likely some differences between the two versions. It is entirely likely that the textures for Vicky 4.2 are not the same for Vicky 4.  As long as you're able to load the figure into Poser, everything worked as it should.

The image displayed before uploading the application is of Victoria 4.2, but when the actual digital image is uploaded, it doesn't look like yours did in your tutorial... not sure why. It's not detailed at all and is bald.

 

The only reason you see anything on the model in my video is because she loaded with textures. She's bald too - the hair is painted on, not actual hair. So is the underwear if I recall.  So perhaps your video card does not support textured preview? I don't know anyhting about your system so I can't really tell you.

 

If she loads into your scene, do a render and see what happens.  To do that go to the menu and choose  RENDER and in the drop down menu that appears choose RENDER again. She should look similar to my textured preview

I did what you suggested and now she looks similar to your textured preview. Thank you very much.

Now... if you know anything about "unzipping" "zipped" items that are purchased on Renderousity, that would be very helpful. And my system is Windows Vista.


estherau posted Wed, 04 April 2012 at 12:39 AM

I'm on a mac and mine just unzip automatically when I double click on vickiebigboobs.zip that I just bought and downloaded from rendero,  then you get a folder called vickiebigboobs with a folder inside called runtime

I'm pretty sure yours would do the same.

Love esther

PS great you got it working.

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windracer posted Wed, 04 April 2012 at 11:09 AM

Quote - I'm on a mac and mine just unzip automatically when I double click on vickiebigboobs.zip that I just bought and downloaded from rendero,  then you get a folder called vickiebigboobs with a folder inside called runtime

I'm pretty sure yours would do the same.

Love esther

PS great you got it working.

I'm on a PC and it doesn't automatically unzip when I double click any of the Renderosity items I purchased.


hborre posted Wed, 04 April 2012 at 11:21 AM Online Now!

@ Esther, on PC's zipped files will open in a separate window, or browser, no automatic unzip.  Now, if Winzip is installed, the application might initiate an unzipping protocol.  I use WinRAR and that app will always open the zipped file when I use the Open With command from the right-click menu.  Otherwise, Windows XP builtin zip program will always open into another window upon double-clicking.


moriador posted Wed, 04 April 2012 at 3:03 PM

Attached Link: Compress and uncompress zip files

The help to files I linked to suggest that Vista works like Win 7 for zipped files.

Double left click the zip file.

Single left click the folder that you want to move into your runtime directory (usually a folder called, "Runtime").

It's now highlighted.

Single left click the highlighted folder or file to drag it into the runtime directory that you are using in Poser.

Or drag the highlighted folder into your document folder, your desktop, a temporary folder... wherever is most convenient for you. It's extracted automatically. Then you can view the files to learn about how runtime directories are named and created, see how the vendor has named things so you can find them more easily later before you move them into the actual runtime that Poser is going to use.

OR

Single right click the zip file.

A dialogue box opens.

Move the cursor to "Extract All"  and click.

Another dialogue box opens that asks you to "select a destination and extract files"

If you leave the location at the default (if you do not enter a new location), it will extract the files into the same folder that the zip file is located, but inside a subfolder that is named the same as the zip file.

Press "Extract"

You will have extracted the files.

You can then single left click the files or folders that you want to move into your runtime and drag them to move them.


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moriador posted Wed, 04 April 2012 at 3:10 PM

In other words, the reason you are not getting the option to extract zipped files when you double click on them is that you need to RIGHT click them (once, not double) to get that option.


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windracer posted Thu, 05 April 2012 at 3:12 PM

Quote - In other words, the reason you are not getting the option to extract zipped files when you double click on them is that you need to RIGHT click them (once, not double) to get that option.

The "Options" come up when I "right click" the zipped files, but the "Extract" option does not appear at all.


moriador posted Thu, 05 April 2012 at 3:27 PM

Attached Link: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-files/problem-opening-zip-files-on-windows-vista/ccc0ee9e-cbf9-408c-b4a1-39e25bb4a958

> Quote - > Quote - In other words, the reason you are not getting the option to extract zipped files when you double click on them is that you need to RIGHT click them (once, not double) to get that option. > > The "Options" come up when I "right click" the zipped files, but the "Extract" option does not appear at all.

At some point your compression options that are default in Vista must have been removed (if you installed another compression utility such as WinZip, maybe?).

The attached link explains how to fix it.

But it would just be much easier to download 7-Zip and install it. It's a nice and free compression utility and very useful to have.


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windracer posted Thu, 05 April 2012 at 11:15 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - In other words, the reason you are not getting the option to extract zipped files when you double click on them is that you need to RIGHT click them (once, not double) to get that option.

The "Options" come up when I "right click" the zipped files, but the "Extract" option does not appear at all.

At some point your compression options that are default in Vista must have been removed (if you installed another compression utility such as WinZip, maybe?).

The attached link explains how to fix it.

But it would just be much easier to download 7-Zip and install it. It's a nice and free compression utility and very useful to have.

I did that... so now how do I get Poser Pro 2012 to allow them to be downloaded??? It's like one step forward, two steps back.


moriador posted Fri, 06 April 2012 at 1:40 AM

Attached Link: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Working-with-files-and-folders#section_6

 

 

 

Are the files saved somewhere on your computer?

If yes, then they are downloaded, and all you have to do is right click the zip files to extract them (7-zip will appear on the dialogue box - then move the mouse pointer to it and it will open additional options. Choose "extract files".)

Once you have extracted the files, you just need to left click and drag them into a runtime folder.  Where you choose to locate this folder is up to you, but if you choose to have the Poser runtime inside the "Program Files" directory, you may encounter permission problems. So it's easier to have it in "My Documents" or in the C: drive.

So, to summarize, you don't download files into Poser. You download files to your computer, then you extract them, then you move them or copy them into a runtime that you will tell Poser to use.

Again:

Download files to your computer.

Extract files using 7-zip or WinZip or whatever.

Move or copy (you do not need to download them again) those files into your Poser runtime directory.

Which part is giving you trouble? Do you not know how to move or copy files? If that is the part that is confusing you, then please read the link attached to this post.


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windracer posted Fri, 06 April 2012 at 8:15 AM

Quote -  

 

 

Are the files saved somewhere on your computer?

If yes, then they are downloaded, and all you have to do is right click the zip files to extract them (7-zip will appear on the dialogue box - then move the mouse pointer to it and it will open additional options. Choose "extract files".)

Once you have extracted the files, you just need to left click and drag them into a runtime folder.  Where you choose to locate this folder is up to you, but if you choose to have the Poser runtime inside the "Program Files" directory, you may encounter permission problems. So it's easier to have it in "My Documents" or in the C: drive.

So, to summarize, you don't download files into Poser. You download files to your computer, then you extract them, then you move them or copy them into a runtime that you will tell Poser to use.

Again:

Download files to your computer.

Extract files using 7-zip or WinZip or whatever.

Move or copy (you do not need to download them again) those files into your Poser runtime directory.

Which part is giving you trouble? Do you not know how to move or copy files? If that is the part that is confusing you, then please read the link attached to this post.

The part I'm having trouble with is the Runtime folder part. How many of these folders can you have and which ones will Poser accept? I created a Runtime folder on my desktop and entered Victoria 4 in it. I was able to get that folder to be accepted by Poser, but can't seem to get another one created the same way. I will try creating one and having it in "My Documents" folder, but I am not sure if it will work. Do you go about intitling them "My Runtime Folders" or what exactly? I believe that's where I am confused.


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hborre posted Fri, 06 April 2012 at 10:07 AM Online Now!

Quote -  I created a Runtime folder on my desktop and entered Victoria 4 in it.

This is incorrect.  The Runtime folder should be inside the Victoria 4 folder.  It will always be within a parent folder as mentioned in previous posts.  You add your content runtime folder to the Victoria 4 folder.  Those runtimes will merge into one.  You can only have one runtime per folder.


windracer posted Fri, 06 April 2012 at 11:02 AM

Quote - > Quote -  I created a Runtime folder on my desktop and entered Victoria 4 in it.

This is incorrect.  The Runtime folder should be inside the Victoria 4 folder.  It will always be within a parent folder as mentioned in previous posts.  You add your content runtime folder to the Victoria 4 folder.  Those runtimes will merge into one.  You can only have one runtime per folder.

I have Victoria 4 on Poser now... the problem is having a "Runtime" folder for my "Renderosity" purchases. They have been "unzipped" but I am not sure how to have them appear on Poser.


WandW posted Fri, 06 April 2012 at 11:03 AM

I have a folder called "runtimes"  with a folder inside for each character (V4, M4, V3, etc).  Inside each of those folders is a text file named Poser.exe to fool DAZ's installers. Each of these folders has been added to the Poser Library as an external runtime once something has been installed into it.

I don't know that the limit is; I currently have 26 external runtimes...

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moriador posted Fri, 06 April 2012 at 12:05 PM

Quote - I have Victoria 4 on Poser now... the problem is having a "Runtime" folder for my "Renderosity" purchases. They have been "unzipped" but I am not sure how to have them appear on Poser.

Do you know how to create folders in Windows Vista? Do you know how to move, copy, or rename folders? Do you know how to open folders in Windows Explorer? Do you know how to open more than one Windows Explorer window so that you can move folders from one place to another?


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hborre posted Fri, 06 April 2012 at 12:07 PM Online Now!

If you look in your Victoria 4 folder, you will see a runtime folder.  Your unzipped runtime folder should either go into the Victoria 4 folder which will appear automatically in Poser. Or you can create a new folder with a different name and add you unzipped runtime folder in there.  However, you must link that new folder to Poser.  Do you know how to do that?


windracer posted Sat, 07 April 2012 at 3:49 PM

Quote - > Quote - I have Victoria 4 on Poser now... the problem is having a "Runtime" folder for my "Renderosity" purchases. They have been "unzipped" but I am not sure how to have them appear on Poser.

Do you know how to create folders in Windows Vista? Do you know how to move, copy, or rename folders? Do you know how to open folders in Windows Explorer? Do you know how to open more than one Windows Explorer window so that you can move folders from one place to another?

Yes... thank you.


windracer posted Sat, 07 April 2012 at 3:52 PM

Quote - If you look in your Victoria 4 folder, you will see a runtime folder.  Your unzipped runtime folder should either go into the Victoria 4 folder which will appear automatically in Poser. Or you can create a new folder with a different name and add you unzipped runtime folder in there.  However, you must link that new folder to Poser.  Do you know how to do that?

No... how do you link the new folder to Poser? Also... I've unzipped the folders of the products from Renderosity... wasn't I supposed to unzip them or not???


hborre posted Sat, 07 April 2012 at 4:08 PM Online Now!

This is a repost from page one.  In the library, you must click the running man + icon on the upper right hand corner as encircled in the image.  That will open a new window where you will navigate to your folder containing your unzipped runtime.  Notice the wording, ...navigate to your folder containing your unzipped runtime. 

Yes, you must unzip your renderosity purchases.


estherau posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 2:13 AM

you need to have a folder with the runtime folder inside it.  the outer folder should be called eg vickie4clothes and the inside folder is called Runtime

Then you make another folder called michael4clothes and inside that folder is a folder called Runtime.  It can't be called runtimestuff or anything else. it has to be named runtime.

Then from inside poser you navigate to the michael4clothes folder and it gets added to your library so you can access all the things inside the folder called Runtime, and then you click add again and find the vickie4clothes folder and add that from within poser.  So you have many folders of bought stuff with a folder called Runtime inside each.  Each of these folders is an external runtime.

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moriador posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 3:06 AM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I have Victoria 4 on Poser now... the problem is having a "Runtime" folder for my "Renderosity" purchases. They have been "unzipped" but I am not sure how to have them appear on Poser.

Do you know how to create folders in Windows Vista? Do you know how to move, copy, or rename folders? Do you know how to open folders in Windows Explorer? Do you know how to open more than one Windows Explorer window so that you can move folders from one place to another?

Yes... thank you.

Then this is what you should do.

-- Create a folder where you are going to put your Poser Content. It is best if this is not located within the Program Files directory.

-- Then unzip your purchases.

-- Then move the folders inside the unzipped files (usually at Renderosity they are called "Documentation" and "Runtime" -- sometimes "Readme" and "Runtime") into the Poser Content folder you created.

-- Go into Poser and link the Poser Content folder as shown more than once already in this thread.

I'm sorry but it is truly hard to understand which part of this confuses you.


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windracer posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 8:51 AM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - > Quote - I have Victoria 4 on Poser now... the problem is having a "Runtime" folder for my "Renderosity" purchases. They have been "unzipped" but I am not sure how to have them appear on Poser.

Do you know how to create folders in Windows Vista? Do you know how to move, copy, or rename folders? Do you know how to open folders in Windows Explorer? Do you know how to open more than one Windows Explorer window so that you can move folders from one place to another?

Yes... thank you.

Then this is what you should do.

-- Create a folder where you are going to put your Poser Content. It is best if this is not located within the Program Files directory.

-- Then unzip your purchases.

-- Then move the folders inside the unzipped files (usually at Renderosity they are called "Documentation" and "Runtime" -- sometimes "Readme" and "Runtime") into the Poser Content folder you created.

-- Go into Poser and link the Poser Content folder as shown more than once already in this thread.

I'm sorry but it is truly hard to understand which part of this confuses you.

Okay... if I create a folder and name the folder Poser Content and then place the folder in my Documents, would that folder be placed in the correct area or should it be placed on the Desktop?


windracer posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 8:55 AM

Quote -

This is a repost from page one.  In the library, you must click the running man + icon on the upper right hand corner as encircled in the image.  That will open a new window where you will navigate to your folder containing your unzipped runtime.  Notice the wording, ...navigate to your folder containing your unzipped runtime. 

Yes, you must unzip your renderosity purchases.

This has been done, but the problem came up to where the items were not listed as being within the folders once I clicked the running man + icon on the upper right hand corner. There were a lot of folders, but the content, the actual item came up empty.


hborre posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 8:58 AM Online Now!

And what actual item is that?  A prop?  A character?  Conforming clothing or a new model?  What is the name of the content you are trying to load?


estherau posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 5:26 PM

Inside your folder poserruntimes I sure hope you have lots of subfolders eg Vickie4 Michael4 and each of these has a folder called runtime in it that contains stuff.

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estherau posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 5:26 PM

can you open that folder out so we can see and take another screencapture please.

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estherau posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 9:49 PM

here's a screen cap of my poserall folder where I keep all my external runtimes...

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estherau posted Sun, 08 April 2012 at 9:50 PM

I opened a couple of them so you could see the runtimes inside.

This is not taken within poser.  this is my finder on my computer.  to get those folders into poser you can either load them all in one by one from within poser or you can use a python script such as loadmultiple.py from semidieu to do it.

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moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 1:08 AM

Quote - Okay... if I create a folder and name the folder Poser Content and then place the folder in my Documents, would that folder be placed in the correct area or should it be placed on the Desktop?

You can put that folder anywhere you want. You can put it on another drive, you can put it on a USB stick, you can put it on an external drive. You can create a really big and complicated file tree and place it there. It's entirely up to you.

It's not wise, in Vista and Windows 7, to place it in the Program Files directory because User Account Controls in these versions of windows restrict what can be saved in this directory for security reasons.  You can override these restrictions, but in the end it is much simpler just to locate your Poser Content folder anywhere else. :)

My Documents would be a fine place.  I do not, myself, place content files on the Desktop as I have heard that having a great many files on the desktop can slow down the loading of the desktop (when the system reboots). And runtimes get very, very big indeed.  I place them on my root drive at C:/Poser Content/People or C:/Poser Content/Animals and so on.  You can name the directory anything you want. And you can have more than one directory. I have about 12.

But again, inside My Documents is fine. As long as you do not move this folder, it's fine, and it will be easy to find.

Once you've made this directory/folder, move the "Runtime" folders that are inside the extracted zip files into this directory/folder. (I move the documentation and the readme's as well).

Then in Poser, when you link to the folder, link to the main directory you created (not the folder called "runtime".  In my case, I would link to a folder located at C:/Poser Content/ People (for my people purchases). For my animal purchases, I would link to "C:/Poser Content/Animals"

I would not link to "C:/Poser Content/People/Runtime".

If you only wanted to have one directory (only one "runtime" as we call it), you would move all the runtimes from all of your purchases into one main directory. So it would look more like C:/Poser Content/Runtime.  But you would tell Poser to link to the main directory "C:/Poser Content".

Does that make sense?


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moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 1:19 AM

I think that in Vista, if you use My Documents, the location would be:

C:/Users/Your User Name/Documents/Poser Content

But I'm not sure, as I'm using Windows 7.

 

In my system, when you click the plus sign in the Poser library to add a "runtime" to the library, you get a dialogue box that allows you to view the file tree:

Desktop

Libraries

Homegroup

Username

Computer

Network

If yours is similar, you would find My Documents under Username (whatever that is) and then My Documents. Then you would click on the Poser Content folder to add it.


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windracer posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 9:42 AM

Quote - And what actual item is that?  A prop?  A character?  Conforming clothing or a new model?  What is the name of the content you are trying to load?

A character... Sofia.


windracer posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 9:43 AM

Quote - can you open that folder out so we can see and take another screencapture please.

I tried to show a screencapture, but my computer doesn't reveal any.


windracer posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 9:58 AM

Quote - > Quote - Okay... if I create a folder and name the folder Poser Content and then place the folder in my Documents, would that folder be placed in the correct area or should it be placed on the Desktop?

You can put that folder anywhere you want. You can put it on another drive, you can put it on a USB stick, you can put it on an external drive. You can create a really big and complicated file tree and place it there. It's entirely up to you.

It's not wise, in Vista and Windows 7, to place it in the Program Files directory because User Account Controls in these versions of windows restrict what can be saved in this directory for security reasons.  You can override these restrictions, but in the end it is much simpler just to locate your Poser Content folder anywhere else. :)

My Documents would be a fine place.  I do not, myself, place content files on the Desktop as I have heard that having a great many files on the desktop can slow down the loading of the desktop (when the system reboots). And runtimes get very, very big indeed.  I place them on my root drive at C:/Poser Content/People or C:/Poser Content/Animals and so on.  You can name the directory anything you want. And you can have more than one directory. I have about 12.

But again, inside My Documents is fine. As long as you do not move this folder, it's fine, and it will be easy to find.

Once you've made this directory/folder, move the "Runtime" folders that are inside the extracted zip files into this directory/folder. (I move the documentation and the readme's as well).

Then in Poser, when you link to the folder, link to the main directory you created (not the folder called "runtime".  In my case, I would link to a folder located at C:/Poser Content/ People (for my people purchases). For my animal purchases, I would link to "C:/Poser Content/Animals"

I would not link to "C:/Poser Content/People/Runtime".

If you only wanted to have one directory (only one "runtime" as we call it), you would move all the runtimes from all of your purchases into one main directory. So it would look more like C:/Poser Content/Runtime.  But you would tell Poser to link to the main directory "C:/Poser Content".

Does that make sense?

So... you would label a folder "Poser Content/People" and another folder "Poser Content/Animals" and another folder "Poser Content/Clothing"? I just want to be sure I understand, because I want to get this right. There are a lot of items on "Renderosity" that I'd like to get setup in Poser.


windracer posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 10:11 AM

Quote - > Quote - Okay... if I create a folder and name the folder Poser Content and then place the folder in my Documents, would that folder be placed in the correct area or should it be placed on the Desktop?

You can put that folder anywhere you want. You can put it on another drive, you can put it on a USB stick, you can put it on an external drive. You can create a really big and complicated file tree and place it there. It's entirely up to you.

It's not wise, in Vista and Windows 7, to place it in the Program Files directory because User Account Controls in these versions of windows restrict what can be saved in this directory for security reasons.  You can override these restrictions, but in the end it is much simpler just to locate your Poser Content folder anywhere else. :)

My Documents would be a fine place.  I do not, myself, place content files on the Desktop as I have heard that having a great many files on the desktop can slow down the loading of the desktop (when the system reboots). And runtimes get very, very big indeed.  I place them on my root drive at C:/Poser Content/People or C:/Poser Content/Animals and so on.  You can name the directory anything you want. And you can have more than one directory. I have about 12.

But again, inside My Documents is fine. As long as you do not move this folder, it's fine, and it will be easy to find.

Once you've made this directory/folder, move the "Runtime" folders that are inside the extracted zip files into this directory/folder. (I move the documentation and the readme's as well).

Then in Poser, when you link to the folder, link to the main directory you created (not the folder called "runtime".  In my case, I would link to a folder located at C:/Poser Content/ People (for my people purchases). For my animal purchases, I would link to "C:/Poser Content/Animals"

I would not link to "C:/Poser Content/People/Runtime".

If you only wanted to have one directory (only one "runtime" as we call it), you would move all the runtimes from all of your purchases into one main directory. So it would look more like C:/Poser Content/Runtime.  But you would tell Poser to link to the main directory "C:/Poser Content".

Does that make sense?

Okay... I just created a "Poser Content" folder in MY Doctuments and also created a Runtime folder within it. Then I placed the "Sofia" contents inside the Runtime folder. Clicked on the Poser Content folder inside Poser and the folder had this (0) next to it. Let me know what I did wrong, please.


hborre posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 1:16 PM Online Now!

Sofia is a character and you should find her under the Pose category of the Poser Library.  That would be the running man icon just to the right of the standing man icon at the top of the Library.


jestmart posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 3:01 PM

Might I suggest a couple of free image programs, IrFanView or Xnview.  Both programs are simple but powerful image utilities that have screencapture functions.

http://www.irfanview.com/

http://www.xnview.com/

Poser uses relative addressing for pathfiles.  This means that Poser only need a partitial path that is indexed or referenced somehow.  The actual 'Runtime' folder is this index, Poser then needs to know which folders contain a 'Runtime' folder.  It does become confusing when people refer to a mapped content folder in a general way as a runtime folder.  Perhaps a way to think of this is to compare it to a treasure map.  On a treasure map you might have the instruction to start at the old oak tree then from there go so many paces etc. etc...  The 'Runtime' folder is the old oak tree in this analogy.

 


moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 4:16 PM

Quote - Okay... I just created a "Poser Content" folder in MY Doctuments and also created a Runtime folder within it. Then I placed the "Sofia" contents inside the Runtime folder. Clicked on the Poser Content folder inside Poser and the folder had this (0) next to it. Let me know what I did wrong, please.

I think this is the problem and it's a very common problem.

When you unzip "Sofia", there should be a folder called "runtime" within those unzipped files.

Drag that runtime folder into your Poser Content folder, not into the runtime folder. You do not want a runtime inside a runtime. Instead, you want the new Sofia runtime folder to merge with the Poser Content runtime folder.  When you drag the runtime into the Poser Content folder and there already is a runtime in there, a dialogue box will appear and it will ask, Do you still want to merge this folder? Click "yes".

If you already have a runtime in your Poser Content folder and you are moving the Sofia runtime into it and you do NOT get this dialogue box, then you are putting the Sofia runtime into the wrong place.


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moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 4:21 PM

Quote - So... you would label a folder "Poser Content/People" and another folder "Poser Content/Animals" and another folder "Poser Content/Clothing"? I just want to be sure I understand, because I want to get this right. There are a lot of items on "Renderosity" that I'd like to get setup in Poser.

Well, the slash means that there's a subfolder. So that Poser Content/People means there's a subfolder called "People" inside the folder called "Poser Content".

I would make a Poser Content folder with several subfolders. So that inside the Poser Content folder would be a folder called People and a folder called Animals and a folder called Victoria Clothing and a Folder called Props and so on.... And inside each of the subfolders there would be a runtime folder.

When I bought new content I would decide where it belonged, unzip the files, and drag the runtime from the purchased stuff into the folder where it belonged so that the purchased runtime merged with the runtime in My Documents.

It's a good idea to get a firm understanding of this, yes, because if you do end up buying a lot of content or downloading a lot of freebies, you'll probably be happier if it's well organized. :)


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moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 4:38 PM

> Quote - Might I suggest a couple of free image programs, IrFanView or Xnview.  Both programs are simple but powerful image utilities that have screencapture functions. > > http://www.irfanview.com/ > > http://www.xnview.com/

If you just want screen capture then why download anything?

Hit PRT SCN on your keyboard.  This puts an image of whatever is showing on the desktop onto the "clipboard".

Open "Paint" (usually located in "Accessories" in the start menu.

Click "Paste"

Whatever is on the clipboard will be pasted into the Paint program.

You may want to crop and resize. There are button in the "home" tab to do this.  You must click on the "Select" box where the little arrow is, and select "Rectangular Selection" before you can crop.  Then you drag your mouse to select the area you want to keep before clicking "Crop".

The go to the top left corner icon, click it, and then save as jpg.

Then you have an image.

Then when you post in the forums, there's a box that allows you to "Attach a File". Browse to the image's location on your computer and click either preview reply or post reply.

It worked for this screen capture...

(Though, I honestly do recommend irfanview very strongly. I wouldn't be able to function without it.)


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moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 5:12 PM

 

My folder icons will look different from the default, but don't let that bother you.


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moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 5:13 PM

 

Once you've done this, you can click on the runtime on the left to see that the files have been copied into it. Or you can copy more files for more purchases.

You should only have to link inside Poser to the People folder once, though, unless you move that folder somewhere else.


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estherau posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 6:53 PM

"

So... you would label a folder "Poser Content/People" and another folder "Poser Content/Animals" and another folder "Poser Content/Clothing"? I just want to be sure I understand, because I want to get this right. There are a lot of items on "Renderosity" that I'd like to get setup in Poser."

that is the way I would do it, rather than merging all your runtimes into one big one. it makes it very much easier to find the poses that go with your hair etc if each thing is in a separate folder.

So I wouldn't do what someone above suggested and merge each folder into your poser content.

But make sure you don't have a folder called Runtime inside a folder called Runtime.  Each runtime should have its own folder around it. Like I showed you in my screen cap.  that works best.

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jestmart posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 9:45 PM

Why would I suggest a third party image utility?  For the same reason I would suggest a third party zip utility like 7-Zip, they just work better and have more options then what is built in to Windows.  Going a little off topic but I have felt for a long time that MicroSoft should concentrate on the core elements of the OS.  Leave the add-ons like video plays, image programs and all the rest to other companies that have more experience in those areas.


moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 10:03 PM

Quote - Why would I suggest a third party image utility?  For the same reason I would suggest a third party zip utility like 7-Zip, they just work better and have more options then what is built in to Windows.  Going a little off topic but I have felt for a long time that MicroSoft should concentrate on the core elements of the OS.  Leave the add-ons like video plays, image programs and all the rest to other companies that have more experience in those areas.

I think it's fine to suggest a third party image utility when you're confident that your suggestion won't overwhelm someone who is clearly new with computers.  I only say that Paint will work just as well for the purpose of making screen captures so that the OP can complete this step without having to add the additional steps of downloading and installing another program.  When you're still learning how to do basic things in Windows, you may not need all the bells and whistles of a third party utility right away.  Later, definitely, yes. Now, probably not.  Not until the OP has Vicki working and is making renders.

 


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moriador posted Mon, 09 April 2012 at 10:05 PM

Quote - " So I wouldn't do what someone above suggested and merge each folder into your poser content.

I was not suggesting that the OP merge all of her content into one folder. I was suggesting that the OP needs to merge the purchase runtime with the runtime within whatever folder is chosen to contain the content. If these two are not merged in Windows, then the files will not be copied or moved and the product won't work. I did suggest several times that the Poser Content folder (or whatever the OP chose to call it) contain several subfolders so that content types could be organized.

I prefer to have all of my runtimes within one main directory so that my root directory is not cluttered with 15 separate runtimes. I don't see how this is a bad thing. :)


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estherau posted Tue, 10 April 2012 at 1:05 AM

oh I see. yep - It hought you meant put it all into your main poser folder.  sorry.

I suggest putting folder on any drive called poserall, then putting a folder called Vickie4, furniture, Vickie4jeanz etc into it and then a runtime goes into each.

Like the screen shot I supplied earlier.

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windracer posted Wed, 11 April 2012 at 7:58 AM

Quote - > Quote - Okay... I just created a "Poser Content" folder in MY Doctuments and also created a Runtime folder within it. Then I placed the "Sofia" contents inside the Runtime folder. Clicked on the Poser Content folder inside Poser and the folder had this (0) next to it. Let me know what I did wrong, please.

I think this is the problem and it's a very common problem.

When you unzip "Sofia", there should be a folder called "runtime" within those unzipped files.

Drag that runtime folder into your Poser Content folder, not into the runtime folder. You do not want a runtime inside a runtime. Instead, you want the new Sofia runtime folder to merge with the Poser Content runtime folder.  When you drag the runtime into the Poser Content folder and there already is a runtime in there, a dialogue box will appear and it will ask, Do you still want to merge this folder? Click "yes".

If you already have a runtime in your Poser Content folder and you are moving the Sofia runtime into it and you do NOT get this dialogue box, then you are putting the Sofia runtime into the wrong place.

I've done what you have suggested and the Poser Content folder appears in Poser once I click on it from the menu, but it reads "empty". There was a time when I couldn't do that, but now that I can download the Poser Content folder I don't understand why the folder reads "empty" after doing what you have suggested.


estherau posted Wed, 11 April 2012 at 8:06 AM

well what folder is inside the poser content folder.  What folders are inside the folder within the poser content folder?

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estherau posted Wed, 11 April 2012 at 8:11 AM

It would be good if your setup is like this:-

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estherau posted Wed, 11 April 2012 at 8:24 AM

If you go onto your computer and ascertain that the folder is not empty, and poser has loaded it and it seems empty there are probably only 2 possibilities.

1 is that you need to hit the refresh button to the right of the library.

The second possibility is that you are looking at some empyt folder in the runtime that isn't meant to have anything in it. eg you may have opened a pose folder when the runtime only contains a figure.

 

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windracer posted Wed, 11 April 2012 at 9:49 AM

Quote - well what folder is inside the poser content folder.  What folders are inside the folder within the poser content folder?

I've tried placing the "Sofia" folder inside the Poser Content folder alone and the reading I get in Poser is that there is not Runtime folder.


hborre posted Wed, 11 April 2012 at 10:45 AM Online Now!

Then you need to open the sofia folder and check to see if there is a runtime folder within.  That Sofia folder should be within a runtime folder, under 2 levels of subfolders, a Libraries folder and a Pose folder.  Sofia folder will not show up on its own.


windracer posted Thu, 12 April 2012 at 8:18 AM

Quote - Then you need to open the sofia folder and check to see if there is a runtime folder within.  That Sofia folder should be within a runtime folder, under 2 levels of subfolders, a Libraries folder and a Pose folder.  Sofia folder will not show up on its own.

Yes there is a Runtime folder within the Sofia folder, but what should be in the Libraries folder and what should be in the Poser folder so that the Sofia foder will work? Do I create a new folder and label it "Libraries" or take an exisiting "Libraries" foler and use it? The same question for the "Poser" folder.


hborre posted Thu, 12 April 2012 at 8:39 AM Online Now!

Sofia has her own runtime folder so the libraries folder should already exist.  Link that Sofia folder to Poser.  You have already been instructed how to do that.  Do you understand that procedure. or do we have to reiterate the steps again?  There is an image posted.  If you managed to link the Sofia folder to Poser, then you need to open the proper Library category for this character.  That would be the Pose section which can be opened by clicking on the gray running man icon at the top of the library.  The Sofia folder should show subfolders which will contain your content.


windracer posted Thu, 12 April 2012 at 9:54 AM

Quote - Sofia has her own runtime folder so the libraries folder should already exist.  Link that Sofia folder to Poser.  You have already been instructed how to do that.  Do you understand that procedure. or do we have to reiterate the steps again?  There is an image posted.  If you managed to link the Sofia folder to Poser, then you need to open the proper Library category for this character.  That would be the Pose section which can be opened by clicking on the gray running man icon at the top of the library.  The Sofia folder should show subfolders which will contain your content.

I've tried severa times with creating a "Poser Content" folder and putting the Sofia folder inside it. When I click on the gray running man icon to download the Poser Content folder, it shows and I click on it. The Poser Content folder shows up in Poser but as an empty folder even with the Sofia folder inside it.


hborre posted Thu, 12 April 2012 at 10:08 AM Online Now!

You are trying to nest the runtimes which will lead to confusions.  Understand, each linked folder must contain only one runtime folder.  If your Poser content already contains a runtime folder then the Sofia folder cannot be placed into it.  You can take the Sofia runtime and merge it with the Poser Content runtime, but you cannot do what you described.

Open your Sofia folder and verify that it has a runtime folder.  Then open that runtime folder.  Please describe what is in that folder. 


windracer posted Fri, 13 April 2012 at 8:25 AM

Quote - You are trying to nest the runtimes which will lead to confusions.  Understand, each linked folder must contain only one runtime folder.  If your Poser content already contains a runtime folder then the Sofia folder cannot be placed into it.  You can take the Sofia runtime and merge it with the Poser Content runtime, but you cannot do what you described.

Open your Sofia folder and verify that it has a runtime folder.  Then open that runtime folder.  Please describe what is in that folder. 

I opened the Sofia folder. What appears inside that is, a data folder, Documentation folder, People folder, and Runtime folder (in that order from top of page leading down. I clicked the Runtime folder to open it and there is a libraries folder and a textures folder. I clicked the libraries folder and ten folders appear. From the top of page leading down, the folders are, camera, character, face, hair, hand, light, materials, Pose, props, and scene. I clicked each of these folders and they all are empty. Could this be the problem???


hborre posted Fri, 13 April 2012 at 10:00 AM Online Now!

If they are all empty then there is no content unzipped into that runtime.  This is a problem.  How did you unzip the compressed file?  Give me step-wise details how you did this.  ATM, you have no content which is a problem.  Also, provide a link to the Sofia character.  I would like to examine the readme from the link.


windracer posted Fri, 13 April 2012 at 12:03 PM

Quote - If they are all empty then there is no content unzipped into that runtime.  This is a problem.  How did you unzip the compressed file?  Give me step-wise details how you did this.  ATM, you have no content which is a problem.  Also, provide a link to the Sofia character.  I would like to examine the readme from the link.

Someone suggested "7-Zip" and I went online and downloaded it. Plus... how do I "provide a link to the Sofia character"? Do you mean a link to Renderosity and the character's package or a link to what I have? I'm not sure how to do that.


hborre posted Fri, 13 April 2012 at 12:16 PM Online Now!

If Sofia is a Rendo product, I'll find it.  To place a link in a post, go to the site, highlight the browser URL, copy, then proceed to your post and paste.  You may get a challenge to the paste, just click allow.

 

Edit:  I just checked the character package you purchased; it is Sophia with a ph not an f.  It is important you use exact spelling.  The readme with that package has specific instructions for unzipping and installation as well as how to inject the morphs.  You will need V4 Morph++ package from DAZ3D, otherwise you will not see any changes to the model.

Now, how did you unzip the content?


jestmart posted Fri, 13 April 2012 at 9:31 PM

This is why it is fortunate that you have a DAZ Studio user lurking in this forum.  The "data" and "People" folders indicates that this a Studio character preset.  You won't be able to use it to morph V4 in Poser.  If the "Textures" folder does have texture files in it you could apply them manually.


hborre posted Fri, 13 April 2012 at 11:55 PM Online Now!

The site and the readme does mention for Poser use also.  Yes, I agree, there are DAZStudio folders also embedded, and the readme provides a listing of Poser files.  Either the content did not d/l completely or there is misinformation about where the content is to be used.


estherau posted Mon, 16 April 2012 at 2:44 AM

matbe there are two sophia files and he has only downloaded one of them (the daz one)

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hborre posted Mon, 16 April 2012 at 9:20 AM Online Now!

Nope.  The site specifies only one file.


estherau posted Mon, 16 April 2012 at 5:30 PM

maybe he overwrote his runtime whilst he was fiddling around trying to get it to work.

I would throw it in the bin and unzip sophia again.  also check in the materials folder. perhaps that is where the content is?

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windracer posted Thu, 19 April 2012 at 1:43 PM

Quote - If Sofia is a Rendo product, I'll find it.  To place a link in a post, go to the site, highlight the browser URL, copy, then proceed to your post and paste.  You may get a challenge to the paste, just click allow.

 

Edit:  I just checked the character package you purchased; it is Sophia with a ph not an f.  It is important you use exact spelling.  The readme with that package has specific instructions for unzipping and installation as well as how to inject the morphs.  You will need V4 Morph++ package from DAZ3D, otherwise you will not see any changes to the model.

Now, how did you unzip the content?

The first time, I used "7 zip". After using that, I got some empty folders within what was unzipped. I contacted "Renderousity" support on the phone and the person I spoke with suggested "Winzip". The problem I am having with "Winzip" is that the whole folder isn't a  whole folder. Part of it isn't with the rest of the folder.


windracer posted Thu, 19 April 2012 at 1:45 PM

Quote - This is why it is fortunate that you have a DAZ Studio user lurking in this forum.  The "data" and "People" folders indicates that this a Studio character preset.  You won't be able to use it to morph V4 in Poser.  If the "Textures" folder does have texture files in it you could apply them manually.

Okay... since you say you are a DAZ Studio user... how do I go about downloading Renderosity purchased items into DAZ 3D 4.0???


jestmart posted Thu, 19 April 2012 at 9:48 PM

You do it the same as you would for Poser.  Like hborre, I did a search at Rendo's story, there are no "Sofia" products, there is a "Sophia" character by adamthwaites.  If it is "Sophia" you have it for V4 and Genesis and both Poser and Studio.  Let me be blunt, the ReadMe file gives very clear instruction on how to install the product, as long as you know how to use a computer.  This seems to be your problem, you just don't know enough about computers to be messing with programs of this complexity.  I am now going to make the most extreme and controversial suggestion ever, one that may even get me banned.  I want you to use the 'Help' function in the Start window.  Then type in "System Restore" in the search area.  Carefully read everything that comes up.  Once you think you understand how to do a restore I want you to restore your computer to its earliest point possible.  Now shut off the computer, get to a bookstore or your local library.  Ask for the best books they have to teach a newbie about computers, both general knowledge and OS (Operating System) specific.  Better still would be to find and take a course, there are probably many free or low cost ones available in your area. 


wellender posted Mon, 30 April 2012 at 3:12 PM

This has been a really helpful thread.  Thanks to everyone who is taking the time to explain howto do this correctly.

I have a question regarding other Daz files.  Are they installed it the same manner as Victoria and Michael?  For example, I have Freak, the Girl, Victoria 4 Morphs ++, Michael 4 Morphs ++, and the Clown Family pack.  Would I create a seperate folder for each or should the go with Michael and Victoria somehow since they are somewhat realted?


estherau posted Mon, 30 April 2012 at 5:27 PM

I would keep your girl in the V4 folder since she is a morph of V4, and I would keep your freak in th Michael 4 folder.

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wellender posted Tue, 01 May 2012 at 10:48 AM

Thanks.  What about the morphs ++ for each?  SHould they live with the person they pertain to or a seperate folder?

 

Do I install all Daz purchased content in a similar manner to M4 and V4?  I mean creating the the folder to direct the installer to.


hborre posted Tue, 01 May 2012 at 11:24 AM Online Now!

The morph package should reside in the same folder as your models.  V4 Morph++ should be where your V4 CR2 is located.


wellender posted Tue, 01 May 2012 at 11:31 AM

Thanks again.  You guys have done an outstanding job explaining stuff in this thread.


wellender posted Tue, 01 May 2012 at 2:15 PM

Quote - I would keep your girl in the V4 folder since she is a morph of V4, and I would keep your freak in th Michael 4 folder.

 

Is that true of any characters I buy?  For Example I bought the AH Hunter V4 model.  I assume that she is simply a morph of V4, like The Girl.  So, should I put her and all models based on that character in the V4 folder?  Maybe something like this:

 

Victoria 4 Folder

-Victoria 4

-Morphs ++

-The Girl

-AH Hunter

-Etc.

 

But not this:

 

Victoria 4 Folder

-Victoria 4

      -Morphs ++

      -The Girl

      -AH Hunter

      -Etc.


hborre posted Tue, 01 May 2012 at 6:09 PM Online Now!

I would put the Girl 4 along with V4 because she is a morph of V4.  I would not place Morph++ in it's own folder, though.  There are deltas that must ba accessed when injecting morpts.  However, you can place the clothing in separate clothing folder.