Hi everyone, total beginner to 3D but really looking forward to getting started as being a long time freehand artist in pencil it looks perfect !! So much quicker too as first thing I did was read the Newbie help thread and already Andy has gone so thanks !

Also saw don't be afraid to ask questions which I am a bit, but I'm having big problems trying to find the longest long hair female models as most are only to mid back. However I've seen much longer on one or two websites but can't find them on here....

Much appreciate any help !

Thanks in advance :-)

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

well if you want bangs at the front the best hair is mitzu hair which I think was from daz

Love esther

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Thanks for the tip !

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Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Attached Link: http://www.daz3d.com/shop/mitsu-hair-for-aiko

okay I found it..  this is one of the most popular long hair for poser figures.

Love esther

PS being able to draw is really useful in poser.  even if you can just draw over your renders a little it helps eg to make a tshrit hang right or something.

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Another two suggestions are ...

the "Fantasy Warrior" hair by Pretty3D here at RMP, where the pony tail can be made extremely long.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/fantasy-warrior-hair/89444

 

Or the "Rhene Hair", which can be found over at DAZ. Also with extreme "make-long" morphs.

http://www.daz3d.com/shop/rhene-hair

Tho, I have no idea how the state of the DAZ online store currently is, as I read a few posts about some issues over there, since their relaunch.

Quote - okay I found it..  this is one of the most popular long hair for poser figures.

Love esther

PS being able to draw is really useful in poser.  even if you can just draw over your renders a little it helps eg to make a tshrit hang right or something.

Thanks again looking forward to it all especially how it will relate to freehand drawing....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Quote - Another two suggestions are ...

the "Fantasy Warrior" hair by Pretty3D here at RMP, where the pony tail can be made extremely long.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/fantasy-warrior-hair/89444

 

Or the "Rhene Hair", which can be found over at DAZ. Also with extreme "make-long" morphs.

http://www.daz3d.com/shop/rhene-hair

Tho, I have no idea how the state of the DAZ online store currently is, as I read a few posts about some issues over there, since their relaunch.

Just great (!!) also Rhene Hair was the one I'd seen previously and had been trying to find. Must try Daz too, is it the only altenative option or are there others similar ?

Many thanks

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Attached Link: http://www.runtimedna.com

there are several including:-

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Aery Soul (Now Alfaseed) had a few long hair styles when they sold stuff here.  Now they're at Runtime DNA but I think they got rid of most of their old stuff when they moved.  I guess if all else fails, you could go over there and ask 'em if they'd sell you one of their old products.

Ah, Esther beat me to it.  :) 

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Thank you both couple more nice ones found, now to try and understand it all !

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Attached Link: Mooch Tail

There's also the Mooch Tail at DAZ for those truly "floor-dragging" locks.

It's for Victoria 3 (well, the "Millenium Generation 3" figures), but should be fairly easy to fit to any other figure.

Do be aware that it's a bit resource heavy, and renders can go rather slow with it.

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> Quote - There's also the Mooch Tail at DAZ for those truly "floor-dragging" locks. > > It's for Victoria 3 (well, the "Millenium Generation 3" figures), but should be fairly easy to fit to any other figure. > > Do be aware that it's a bit resource heavy, and renders can go rather slow with it.

Wonderful thank you four more I would never have found ! Whenever I get time, rarely (!), I like to sketch romantic mythical creatures and why I'd like to learn more about 3d, so would it be too much to ask where would I find more mermaids and centauresses....? The interesting point about mermaids is how often they're depicted with knees bent, whereas in your link it's the first time I've seen two very realistic ones with shark bodies and tails the way I've always drawn them too....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

I believe that DAZ has centaurs for some of their figures. Also search at 

http://www.sharecg.com

There are some there - one for the DAZ Aiko3 figer for example. That one and probably the others at DAZ will require the DAZ Millenium Horse figure. They used to have a free l'lte ' version of the horse that would work fine but I'm not sure it's still available. If you search freestuff here, there is a centauress by Nerd3D made using the very old Poser 4 female (aka Posette) and the Poser 4 horse. I'm not sure if those are available for Debut.  Ditto mermaids search at DAZ and ShareCG.

 http://mystic-nights.com/directory/index.php  is a good search resource for free Poser items as well. Just remember to look carefully at which base figures are required to make the creatures e.g. Victoria 4 (aka V4), Aiko 3 (aka A3) etc.

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Thank you and everyone previously !! It's all been a really great help as I'm already finding that it's helping my drawing enormously by being able to move the screen model in all directions for different 3D realism and perspectives, miles better than the old wooden human figure the limbs and head of which you had to keep twisting into different positions. Invaluable in another sense too as you're seeing the final drawing on the screen before ever putting pencil to paper, rather than trying to keep improving vague pictures in your mind with dozens of tiring preliminary sketches.

Thanks again

(Are the Daz ones compatible with Poser ?)

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Quote - (Are the Daz ones compatible with Poser ?)

You can check the product page, under "Additional Information" to see compatible programs.

However, the majority of older content will work in Poser, most products made for the Millenium 4 (Victoria, Michael, any "Name 4" figures) and the earlier figures are usable in Poser.

The Genesis figure and anything requiring it will not work properly in Poser for a number of reasons that have been hashed and re-hashed plenty of times on this forum.

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If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.

Thanks for the info. just bought my first item, very lucky to discover it was ok for Poser ! Only problem is whilst it downloaded ok and I clicked on Run I can't find it anywhere....??

Sorry to be a bother....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

When you downloaded it did you click "run" in the download window or did you tell it to "save" the file?

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I just clicked on Run in the download window....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Marcuse, when you are ready, you can purchase Poser 8 (yes it is one generation behind the current Poser 9)  at Amazon.com for $70.  It is a fully operational package with all the goodies.  Other folks here might know of reputable places that sell it cheaper.

Jan

I would suggest downloading the file and saving it somewhere on your drive.  It will make it easier to reinstall if you don't have network service for some reason.

Thanks for all the info.... There was only the one option of Run, no Save at all....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Quote - Marcuse, when you are ready, you can purchase Poser 8 (yes it is one generation behind the current Poser 9)  at Amazon.com for $70.  It is a fully operational package with all the goodies.  Other folks here might know of reputable places that sell it cheaper.

Jan

Thanks I'm doing the one month free trial of Debut to see how things go and then decide. About 27 days or so left....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Terrible timing.  Debut was offered free about a month back.

Remember that Deput is very limited in what it can do so don't base your decision on it.  Ask the folks here.  All DAZ figures (V4 and below are fully compatible with Poser 8).

Additional you can combine Aiko, The Girl, Stephanie, together for some pretty good morphs.  All dynamic clothing from everywhere can be used.  Other folks can add info too.

Quote - Terrible timing.  Debut was offered free about a month back.

Haven't paid anything yet as they can only take it if you don't cancel at the end of the month allowed. I chose Debut because I hoped it would be simpler....at the moment it's a real uphill struggle !

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Quote - Remember that Deput is very limited in what it can do so don't base your decision on it.  Ask the folks here.  All DAZ figures (V4 and below are fully compatible with Poser 8).

Additional you can combine Aiko, The Girl, Stephanie, together for some pretty good morphs.  All dynamic clothing from everywhere can be used.  Other folks can add info too.

I had to print out the full Debut manual as there was far too much to take in all at once, but from what little I've learned what you say does sound interesting. This is because luckily I'm able to work "backwards" so to speak from the artwork I normally do to what I'm trying to grasp now. Is this quite a common approach for others too ?

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

All software programs are difficult to begin with.  Just keep on trucking and do your exploring and experimenting with the program, eg if I click on this what will it do and remember the Cntrl Z function on your keyboard, it is the undo function standard for most all types of Software including Poser, Carrara, DAZ, Hexagon, Zbrush, Wings, Blender etc.

By the way, Blender, Wings, Sculptris, Hexagon are wonderful model creation tools and best of all they are all FREE, full versions, no time limits.  Sorry to derail the thread..Jan

 

Quote - All software programs are difficult to begin with.  Just keep on trucking and do your exploring and experimenting with the program, eg if I click on this what will it do and remember the Cntrl Z function on your keyboard, it is the undo function standard for most all types of Software including Poser, Carrara, DAZ, Hexagon, Zbrush, Wings, Blender etc.

By the way, Blender, Wings, Sculptris, Hexagon are wonderful model creation tools and best of all they are all FREE, full versions, no time limits.  Sorry to derail the thread..Jan

 

Yes I agree about exploring and experimenting will do, and thanks for the tips I've learnt so much on here already. However I'm still at the ridiculous stage at the moment trying to get a wig onto Jessie's head and it's impossible ! :biggrin:

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

The "wig" is probably conforming which means that it is rigged similarily to it's base model.  The manual should cover this topic.  Keep in mind also, most forum individuals use either regular Poser or Poser Pro (there is only one other regular which uses Poser Debut).  As Plutom posted, PD is very limited and some advice might not work because of those limitations.  I, myself, took advantage of the free offer but have not installed the app on my computer yet.  If there is an increase number of users, I just might need to install so I can be on the same level as the newbies.

Thanks for the conforming point, I'm onto chapter 6 and so anxious to get started properly !! :biggrin:

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Creating references for drawing is what Poser was originally designed for so you're keeping the tradition alive :-)

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Thank you. It's very useful indeed

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Out of my depth on this one as I'm still having problems trying to open a file I bought from Daz yesterday. Downloaded ok after clicking on Run which I gather is a zip file but it now keeps asking which programme to choose to open the file. There's several options but I've no idea which one's correct as it's rejecting the ones I click on at random - Firefox, Internet Explorer, VLC media player.

Any help much appreciated as it's a file I've wanted for ages,

Thanks

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

What is the name of the file? DAZ changed their store and they may be providing zip files now, I don't know. You need to save the file to your computer. If you're talking 'run' from your browser, you probably need to Save it to a location where you can find it - the desktop is a convenient place. I'm assuming you're using Windows. If you have a Mac, a Mac user will have to chime in. If it's a file ending in exe then double clicking on it shouild run the installer with instructions. On Windows 7 and Vista, there are some potential problems depending on where you go from there. I use XP so again someone else will have better advice on that. If it's a file ending in zip, I'm not sure how they're packaging those. Double clicking should at least open it up so you can see the contents.

It sounds like you're trying to run something like a Poser file that you system doesn't know how to deal with. You may need a free program like Winzip to get those files to their proper location more easily. At any rate, someone will be along who can be of further help so just hang tight. If you haven't already, tell what system you have Windows or Mac and which version and if possible, where you have Poser installed. 

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ps_ac2229b_CelestialPak.exe

Thanks for the help. Clicked on the .exe file which is where the next question asks which programme do you want to install it into. Poser is installed in My Documents and the file itself is now on Desktop. Using Windows 7 XP 32 bit with Firefox, I did try Explorer with the same result. I don't have Winzip so that might be the cause....?

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Which is it, either Win 7 or XP?  You are listing 2 different OS.  In either case, there is a built in zipping/unzipping program already installed.

Sorry about that first time for everything (!) - XP. Well I suppose it must be in here somewhere then, but I've done a Search and other than the original files there's nothing....??

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Searching for the zipping program will yield nothing.  Double click the icon and follow the prompts.  At best, I would download the exe files from DAZ and use those for installation.  I haven't tried their zipped format yet.

I've double clicked on all 3 icons but there's still nothing. Not sure if this is allowed but could I instead send someone the original email with the 3 clickable links as I would dearly love to see what I've bought after so long  !

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Can you provide a screencap of the files?

Thanks for all your help just sorry to be such a bother ! I've also just discovered that the 3 files can be copied into Word and work from there so all being well could presumably be sent as either a pm or an email ?

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

That could be a either self-extracting zip file or a DAZ installer. The problem is that double clicking on either one should run it. Windows doesn't need anything else to run an exe file. It's possible that it could be have been corrupted in the download process. Try clicking once with the Right mouse button. You should get a menu that has 'Properties' as one of the choices - select that. You should see a window that among other things shows the file size. See if the size corresponds to what (hopefully) is listed on the product's description page. If the sizes differ, then the download is probably bad - especially if it is very small. It may even be a web page that got saved with the exe type. Also, note the File Type and Description in that dialog. It may be helpful.

The only thing that puzzles me is that Windows should try to run the file and if I recall correctly, tell you that it's a bad exe - rather than asking for what program to run. In theory, there could be something else tacked on after the .exe that you can't see depending on your settings, but in that case, you probably wouldn't see the .exe either.

 NOTE: Apparently, there are problems with some DAZ installers. There is supposed to be some information and I think a fix here: 

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/865/ 

That may be your problem - don't know but definitely check it out and communicate with DAZ support. 

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Additional info from links in that thread at DAZ

*"Anything with the old DAZ logo (the Z in a circle) as its icon is not working, as far as we know." *

If your file(s) have that icon sort of a blueish circle with a red Z in the middle and a little diskette in the corner then that may well be the problem. If it is, then the utility mentioned in the thread I linket to above will hopefully fix it. If you are hesitant to try it, then you may have to wait until DAZ gets the files repaired. Apparently, their new store software is adding some extra data to the end of the files, causing the problem. Sorry you're having a rough intro but as they say, stuff happens. Hopefully it will be resolved soon.

Support Contact

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/115/ 

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I've just been reading it looks like a big problem most of which is over my head but at least it doesn't sound like it's this end. What a pity just have to be patient for a while longer but very many thanks indeed everyone for all your great help.

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/865/P60

Back to the manual....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

I agree with Imckenzie, except this is an old product which shouldn't have too many problems to install. 

And it occurred to me, please check your Poser Debut folder and verify which Poser exe file is present.  Regular Poser has Poser.exe file, PoserPro has PoserPro.exe, but what does Poser Debut have?

Is that in the File button in the top left hand corner ? If so there's nothing there....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Nope.  You need to go into the Poser Debut folder itself whereever it is installed and look for the exe file and note what it is actually called.  It should have a figure within a red circle.

There's one in Installers called "Install Poser Debut. exe"....?

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

This is in your Poser Debut folder installed on your computer?  Just verifying.  It might probably say PoserDebut.exe.

Yes in the Installers file "Install Poser Debut.exe" 254,994KB. The wording's correct though as it was the first one I came across there might still be other files....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

If your Poser exe is actually PoserDebut.exe (from the folder in your My Documents) then your content will fail to install.  The DAZ installers are designed to look for 'Poser.exe'.  If such a file is not found, either they will quit, flag an error, or ask for a version. 

Now, describe exactly, and with as much detail as possible, what happens when you double-click the Celestial Hair exe.  This is critcal because I cannot duplicate the problems on my computer.

There is no Poser.exe anywhere, however I'm in the programme at this moment cross referencing with the Manual about "Display Menu Commands" in Chapter 6 with no problem.

Double clicking on Celestial Hair. exe I always get a panel appearing saying at the top "Open File - Security Warning." Then below "The publisher could not be verified. Are you sure you want to run this software ? Then "Unknown Publisher" below that. I often get this panel appearing on downloads though it's never caused a problem before....?

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

So what happens when you allow to run?

Nothing.

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

The warning message is because the .exe file doesn't have a digital signature - a feature to determine if the file really is from Microsoft or a recognized publisher. As you've discovered it's common and 'usually' safe to ignore.

Try checking the file sizes as I suggested to see if you got an incomplete download. I suspect though that the file(s) are corrupted probably because of the issue noted by DAZ.

*"I agree with Imckenzie, except this is an old product which shouldn't have too many problems to install." *

Hborre, you may be correct with the Poser.exe factor. I've never had to deal with it and I don't know how exactly the isntallers respond in that instance - may depend on the version of the installer I imagine. Regarding the age of the file(s) though it seems that it is exactly the older installers (at least) that are borked. Somehow the new download server software is adding a few spurious bytes at the end of the file(s), rendering them inoperable. One user reported fixing them by 'simply' deleting the offending bytes in a hex editor.

My DSL is screwed at the moment or I'd try downloading some of the older free items to see if I could duplicate the error. 

Marcuse, have you ever been able to install any DAZ items before? If not, you could try downloading and installing one of their free items (assuming they're back online. If you can install anything, that might narrow down the Poser.exe issue, especially if it's an older item that I presume wouldn't be aware to look for PoserDebut.exe as a valid Poser program. I'd first contact DAZ support through the link references previously and tell them which product you're having problems with and that you're using Debut. Be aware that considering they're apparently having problems with the new setup it may take awhile for them to get back to you.

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Thanks sorry for the delay. Unfortunately there weren't any file sizes displayed on the downloaded files so couldn't check, however I've just managed to download the Millenium horse which was free. It went into the Daz3D library ok but not knowing what to click on as there were so many files I had to take a guess (!) but all that came up was Andy. Then I got an apologies for the inconvenience message saying it would have to close down and did I want to send an error report.

I contacted Support yesterday evening but no reply yet however they're hoping to clear the backlog of tickets by Friday so best till wait till then I think....

Thanks again for all the help it's much appreciated

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

I'm not sure how the Dub libraries are set up but I thing that if the horse installed correctly, you should be able to open the Character folder in your Poser library and under that, there should be a Daz Animals category where the horse should show up. 

I kind of doubt the sizes are the problem but if you Right click once  on a file of any type and select Properties from the menu that pops up, you should get a popup dialog that shows the information.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken

*That could be a either self-extracting zip file or a DAZ installer. The problem is that double clicking on either one should run it. Windows doesn't need anything else to run an exe file. It's possible that it could be have been corrupted in the download process. Try clicking once with the **Right** mouse button. You should get a menu that has 'Properties' as one of the choices - select that. You should see a window that among other things shows the file size. See if the size corresponds to what (hopefully) is listed on the product's description page. If the sizes differ, then the download is probably bad - especially if it is very small. It may even be a web page that got saved with the exe type. Also, note the File Type and Description in that dialog. It may be helpful.*

Unfortunately the horse has no file sizes anywhere, either on the Daz original order page nor on the final paid account file. However you'll see some of the various programmes in the attachment that could be used to open it though I've no idea which one....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

I also clicked several times on the top Mill Horse entry 12,137 kb but it kept crashing and wanting to send error reports....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

That posted image you supplied is looking at a PNG file which is an image file used by Poser to display a picture icon.  Open Poser Debut and navigate to figures in you library.  The Mill Horse should appear in there.

Unfortunately nothing there either see both attachments. It's a pity but I'm getting a bit fed up with it all now, as no doubt you both are courtesy of Daz so best to wait until they sort themselves out I think, meanwhile I'll get on with the manual.

Thanks again....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Second attachment.

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

You don't have a scene saved; it is pointless to open one if one does not exist.  Not the way to load a figure. 

In your library, do you see a My Libray runtime?  Or just Poser Debut Library?  I would like to see a screencap of that section only.

Do you mean as in the first attachment I posted of the two ? If so look above the  empty file one....

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

No, the Library window of Poser Debut.

I seriously think that you are still not grasping the loading figure concept in Poser Debut.  I will attempt to illustrate the steps necessary to bring something into the Poser preview screen.  The image above is Poser 8 which is the base for Poser Debut.  As mentioned before, I do own Poser Debut but for the purpose of illustrating a point, I elected not to install the software just to demonstrate.  P8 is similar enough.

Now, Andy is gone from the scene, I deleted him permanently.  Please notice to the right, there is an open window which shows some figures in my Victoria 4 runtime folder.

This is a closeup of the Library. The Figures category is open, designated by the yellow icon with the figure in it (circled in red).  And as you can see the Show Libraryis pointing at my Victoria 4 Folder.  If the library is not visible, go to the taskbar above and click on *Windows.*

The *Windows* Taskbar menu will open; click on *Libraries* to make the window visible.

By double-clicking the icon, the figure will load into scene, as illustrated in the image.  I have a feeling that you have been trying to load a figure by using the open command under Files.  Not the case.  As you can see, I loaded a dress into the scene.

I did notice that you have a folder entitled *My Library* under your *My Documents* folder which contains a runtime folder.  To check if this folder exists in your Library, navigate to *Show Library* at the top of the Library window and click on the arrow to open the menu.  Select all.  This action will reveal all the folders containing runtimes on your hard drive.  The image shows some of my own external, individualized runtimes I have created. 

If you do not see your own folder then you need to add it to your Library.  At the top, right (circled in red) is the add runtime button.  Clicking this button will open a browser where you navigate through your hard drive to your new runtime.

Please notice, select the folder which contains the runtime, not the runtime folder itself.  I have clearly indicated that action in the image.  Click OK and the folder will be added to your Library.  Simply open the Library folders to your content and click away.

If there is something you do not clearly understand, please let us know. 

My mistake. I thought you were referring to the files on your PC not having sizes listed. You meant on the product page at DAZ. The free items never had them I don't think. THe paid items used to have the sizes listed. Their new software might not display them. OK one puzzle solved. It appears that you are trying to use Windows to do what you should be doing in Poser. Unfortunately, I don't know what Debut looks like. Hborre's screen shots may help but perhaps you can post a screen shot of your Poser Debut screen and we can work from that. Also, as you said, review the basics of loading figures in the manual. Your Jun 7, 2012 1:03 pm post above looks like the folders for DAZ Studio software but maybe the 'Pos' means Poser - never seen that before. Maybe a screenshot of the expanded folders where you have Poser installed might help. You can also use Windows to search for the file: blMilHorse.obj I believe that is one of the files that should have been installed. If we can find out where that is, we may be on the way to a solution. One step at a time :-)

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Goodness thank you both ! Firstly to bring you up to date I've also been on a Daz forum in the last day or two which I think is self-explanatory trying to understand it all as well, to the extent that they've now created a new thread about it as they can't understand what's happening either ! Had to cancel trip today due to bad weather....

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/1625/

Meantime I'm ok with all the library stuff in principle thanks though still having to refer to the manual all the time but this is routine stuff and just the learning side. But as you'll see from the Daz thread the basic problem currently seems to be that there's no Save option only Run which made me wonder if Debut is incompatible with something, and why I decided to re-install it again this morning. Problem was  the same thing kept happening only this time it crashed whilst loading all the library elements. Incidentally I created the temporary file labelled Pos as I gave up looking for the original Poser library, even though they were listed on the right hand side of the workscreen.

So fortunately not having paid for anything and as it's all getting a frustrating muddle this end, I really want to get on and not waste any more time with Debut. So I've uninstalled them both and now want to trial/ buy (?) whatever Poser version that suits permanently, so whatever you recommend at the cheapest price will be great thanks. It'll be more learning but as I've finished Chapter 7 it makes a whole lot more sense to go down this long term and practical route rather than fiddling around any more with Debut I think...

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640

Slight development. Apparently Daz are offering everything for free.... after all that studying and your help too ! Very mixed feelings but I sure could do with the money....so see how it goes for the time being I guess ? If there's a Daz forum on here that would be great as I really feel at home now.....

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/1625/P30

"Those curious locks so aptly twin'd,
Whose every hair a soul doth bind."
Thomas Carew 1595 ~ 1640