vholf opened this issue on Jun 05, 2012 · 34 posts
vholf posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 7:52 PM
I'm eagerly waiting, but the thread over poserplace has been dead for weeks, I asked the status over there and still no reply.
Anyone here knows anything? last time I checked M4 was given to beta testers, so it would be a shame to leave such a project hanging.
LaurieA posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 8:28 PM
I've heard as little as you have :(
Laurie
meatSim posted Tue, 05 June 2012 at 9:36 PM
to the best of my knowledge Phantom got shanghaied by another project. I'm honestly not sure if he is intending to return to m4 WM or not
estherau posted Wed, 06 June 2012 at 6:26 AM
WE can only hope that SM employed him to make a figure or rig one. Well I that is pure speculation and wishful thinking. I only know what you know ie that poserplace has been dead for weeks.
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nobodyinparticular posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 12:20 PM
A whole lot of silence on this topic. Interesting........
Ometeotl posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 8:37 AM
I find this silence more ominous than interesting
WandW posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 1:52 PM
Mike is currently busy with other projects; . My guess is that the delay involves rigging improvements and conforming clothes, but that's speculation on my part...
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grichter posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 2:05 PM
silence...probably means Phantom went to work at Apple :laugh:
Bet a dollar two ninety-eight, he got hijacked by the evil Stith Micro to make some new WM characters for them :thumbupboth:
Gary
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grichter posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 2:12 PM
Don't take the bet...found this in the keyboard short cut thread from the Poser Big Cheese...
Bold and underline added by me..
"BTW, I'll be using your and Dreamland's photo stage for some new figure product promo renderings. It's quite impressive - perfect for what I have in mind."
Coop
Gary
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LaurieA posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 5:01 PM
Now, THAT would make sense ;). He was waylaid!!
Laurie
grichter posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 6:11 PM
If the character comes with an Asian Face morph, you could say Phantom was Shanghai'd...:woot: ( I happen to be near Shanghai, China at the momment)
If this is true, I hope it gets SM's full backing and they push the content creators with incentives to create content for these characters, otherwise they will just fade away. Early in the G2 series days they created and sold some decent stuff for those characters.
Gary
"Those who lose themselves in a passion lose less than those who lose their passion"
LaurieA posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 7:05 PM
I beg to differ on one point. They need to chuck the current Poser characters and make new ones ;)
Laurie
WandW posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 7:44 PM
Quote - If the character comes with an Asian Face morph, you could say Phantom was Shanghai'd...:woot: ( I happen to be near Shanghai, China at the momment)
You are spot-on; Koji is indeed involved... 
Be sure to scroll down to the bottom...
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LaurieA posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 8:37 PM
They are reworking the G2 figures? Oh shit...I really wish they wouldn't. I'll keep a healthy amount of skepticism if that's ok with everyone ;). While not as homely as the current Poser figures, they have issues of their own. If they don't update the meshes no amount of morphing is gonna help them. I'm really rather disappointed. If they want to perpetuate their own program in light of a competitve product, they're gonna need to HIRE someone that KNOWS what they're doing and have them make new ones. Competitve to V4 and M4 at the very least.
Laurie
AmbientShade posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 8:42 PM
Quote - They are reworking the G2 figures? Oh shit...I really wish they wouldn't. I'll keep a healthy amount of skepticism if that's ok with everyone ;). While not as homely as the current Poser figures, they have issues of their own. If they don't update the meshes no amount of morphing is gonna help them. I'm really rather disappointed. If they want to perpetuate their own program in light of a competitve product, they're gonna need to HIRE someone that KNOWS what they're doing and have them make new ones. Competitve to V4 and M4 at the very least.
Laurie
... :rolleyes:
~Shane
LaurieA posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 8:45 PM
Well...lol. They're OLD figures. I'm thrilled...not ;). With competition like Genesis and we get old figures. Pardon me if I'm not ecstatic..lol.
Waitin' on ur figure Shane :P
Laurie
AmbientShade posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 8:52 PM
The G2 meshes would need major reworking in order to be competitive. Maybe there's some sort of licensing issue that prevents them from reworking the mesh.
And Koji looks more Native American than Asian, IMO.
~Shane
Believable3D posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 9:03 PM
Quote - Well...lol. They're OLD figures. I'm thrilled...not ;). With competition like Genesis and we get old figures. Pardon me if I'm not ecstatic..lol.
I'd suggest you read Coop's posts in that thread again. While he indeed did say there were plans to weightmap all the CP figures, he said something else far more interesting too.... :)
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LaurieA posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 9:55 PM
Quote - > Quote - Well...lol. They're OLD figures. I'm thrilled...not ;). With competition like Genesis and we get old figures. Pardon me if I'm not ecstatic..lol.
I'd suggest you read Coop's posts in that thread again. While he indeed did say there were plans to weightmap all the CP figures, he said something else far more interesting too.... :)
Yeah, I saw that. Still reserving judgement ;). For all I know it's Mike's Brad/Can't remember the name figure (and I don't know). As much as I like Mike, I like Shane's figure better ;).
I guess you could say that SM's figure offerings for me have been...disappointing? I liked Miki 1 the best, except for her horrible joints. I like Miki 2 as well, but her face is a bit different than Miki 1. I must say in SM's defense that the first two Miki's have the most realistic bodies I've ever seen. Miki 3 is ok, but I didn't like her enough to buy her and another wardrobe. And with those Mikis there were no male figures of the same type. Or children. SM's figure releases have been soft at best.
Don't get me wrong: I use old figures all the time. But I don't wanna rebuy what amounts to the same figure twice. I did that with Mike 2 and Vicky 2 and I'm not gonna do it again, weightmapped or not...lol.
Laurie
moriador posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 10:05 PM
I also like the look of Shane's figures... and perhaps more importantly, his attitude towards feedback, something we won't get from corporate.
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WandW posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 10:17 PM
Quote - Yeah, I saw that. Still reserving judgement ;). For all I know it's Mike's Brad/Can't remember the name figure (and I don't know).
Nope, not Brad...
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LaurieA posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 10:20 PM
Well, I didn't really mean Brad. I knew he was working on a new figure (not Brad). I'll just wait and see ;).
Laurie
WandW posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 11:13 PM
It's not not Brad either... :biggrin:
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estherau posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 11:45 PM
grichter posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 3:19 AM
The male should be named either Larry to Steve :laugh:
Of course in a pinch they could call him Baggins :scared:
Gary
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moriador posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 3:21 AM
Awesome. They're making a halfling fig.
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lmckenzie posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 4:25 AM
Up-guning the existing figures AND creating new ones seems like a good idea IF they are working on both and can get the reworks out sooner than the new ones i.e. a stopgap. I'd definitely make the reworks free though. I still see leading off with a male figure of either type is going to lead to an inevitable 'We're gonna need a bigger boat' moment without the comic relief and no guarantee of a second reel to retrieve the situation.
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monkeycloud posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 7:15 AM
All looks very nice to me on the Koji and James front 
Quite happy to have some options there... and hopefully there'll be plenty new peripheral content inspired by them too in due course...
...of course M4WM still arriving in time would also be very nice too...
...and is Miki4 not still imminent???
estherau posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 7:22 AM
Well M4 is still a very nice figure and he already doesn't have all the magnets that V4 had before the wm version came along.
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MistyLaraCarrara posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 7:55 AM
i wish they would sell James 6 mesh as a merchant resource. so much better to start with a hndsome .obj
i would pay like - a hundred bucks than to start making hands, etc, from scratch
even if the license said the updated figure could only be sold at cp
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estherau posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 8:04 AM
MistyLaraPrincess, that is a neat idea. I can see how it would be hugely useful to some people. Well who knows what they might do. You could only ask I suppose.
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WandW posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 9:51 AM
All versions of Poser Pro come with redistributable male and female meshes. Phil Cooke has done some cool stuff with them, but in their raw form, they make Ryan and Alyson look like gods...
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MistyLaraCarrara posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 11:03 AM
it's kinda funny - and sweet - how we have feelings for the vintage poser figures, like the Posette, who can forget Don and Judy?
James6 will always be special in my heart.
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WandW posted Mon, 11 June 2012 at 11:44 AM
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