Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Anyway to lock a figure during the morphing tool process?

Zanzo opened this issue on Jun 07, 2012 · 16 posts


Zanzo posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 5:47 AM

I'm trying to use the morphing tool figure but sometimes it gets confused between two figures. The morphing tool will stop working if another figure is behind the geometry i'm trying to work.

There has to be someway to lock the morphing tool onto a single figure so it doesn't attempt to auto select anything. Basically once locked it pretends that no other figure or object exists except for the figure I have locked.


vilters posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 7:39 AM

Second time you ask that same question.

Shift + Mouse stroke with the morph tool.

Or temporarily HIDE the underlying mesh.

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basicwiz posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 7:39 AM

Suposedly holding down the ctrl key does this, but it doesn't always work. You could make the second figure invisible during the morphing process.


Zanzo posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 7:49 AM

Quote - Suposedly holding down the ctrl key does this, but it doesn't always work. You could make the second figure invisible during the morphing process.

Neither CTRL or Shift work.

  1. I use the morphing tool to sculpt a TABLE.

  2. V4 is in front of the table so the table is not visible.

  3. The table is the active object, I hold shift yet the morphing tool insists on selecting V4 instead of morph the table.

There has to be a way to lock the object so selection mode is completely turned off and only sculpting mode is active.

This is definitely a non-microsoft way of thinking AND I HATE IT.


Zanzo posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 7:50 AM

Quote - Suposedly holding down the ctrl key does this, but it doesn't always work. You could make the second figure invisible during the morphing process.

You can't be as accurate if you make the model invisible.

I'd expect this from POSER, but not POSER PRO.


LaurieA posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:50 AM

The table is never gonna be selected if Vicky is in FRONT of it!! HIDE VICKY! Geeze. It's one checkbox in the Hierarchy editor.

You can't expect to work on something if it's behind something else and isn't even visible. I'm not even sure what it is your really trying to do. No one would logically expect to work on something that's behind another object that they can't even see.

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monkeycloud posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:54 AM

...or maybe, at least, spin the camera round your scene so Vicky is side on to the table?

Even if the table is visible behind your foreground figure, the Vicky figure's actual selection "sphere" will obscure the table entirely more than likely..

...at least in terms of how I understand how Poser's object selection seems to function, this would be the case??


LaurieA posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 9:58 AM

Even shift clicking will always select Vicky since she's right under the cursor. You have to get Vicky out of the way.

Laurie



estherau posted Thu, 07 June 2012 at 7:38 PM

I too would like to be able to hold down the shift key as I work to stop the morph brush selecting the underlying figure, but for me too it doesn't usually work.

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Santel posted Fri, 08 June 2012 at 11:38 AM

works for me most of the time, but I never try to use it with other objects close by since the same problem will occur for me.  I keep the hierarchy editor open on the left and use that to make things invisible. If it's a large scene, I make everything invisible since this visibly helps performance, ie, screen redraws. If it's going to be a complex morph I save the object out whether it's a prop or figure, work on it in a new blank scene, save it and pop it back into the larger scene. The is helpful for complex posing too.


motox posted Fri, 08 June 2012 at 6:13 PM

Select figure you you don't want to modify.....Open the figure drop down......Click lock figure.... then if the morphing tool jumps to it it will not modify the locked figure


LaurieA posted Fri, 08 June 2012 at 7:20 PM

However, I should mention that locking the figure is more of a pain in the butt to lock and unlock that just clicking the eye beside the figure in the hierarchy editor to hide and clicking again to unhide, especially if you want to do more to that figure again later ;).

Laurie



monkeycloud posted Sat, 09 June 2012 at 2:39 AM

Hmmm.... maybe there should be a lock button there in the hierarchy editor... alongide the show/hide button?

Similar to layers panel in Photoshop...

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surreality posted Sat, 09 June 2012 at 2:59 AM

I have to agree this can present an issue that hiding doesn't always fix; if I'm trying to smooth some pokethrough for an image, seeing how clothing fits a body is very relevant to the morphing process. So the locking tip... super useful.

So many times, I've needed to tug something out to cover Vicky's rump, only to end up making her posterior all the more superior instead! ;)

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RedPhantom posted Sat, 09 June 2012 at 6:27 AM Online Now! Site Admin

when using the morph tool to fix poke throughs, a few things that seem to be helpful are

1: turn off the stroke option

2: work with a small brush

3: work from the egdes in

4: make sure the center color (red) isn't overlapping another object. The edges can overlap but the center needs to be on the object

5: work small and take your time

6: relative to screen seems to work better than relative to surface

7: and has been stated, hide everything near by that isn't needed to be seen. fyi something that is behind or in front of the object you are working on and is at a distance but close to being in line with it so looks close counts as close.


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motox posted Sun, 10 June 2012 at 7:21 PM

One other vary useful tip to fix poke thru is push in the underlying figure don't try and fix the top figure. By doing it this way you can be quite sloppy and it keeps all contures looking normal