Blackhearted opened this issue on Jul 10, 2012 · 195 posts
Blackhearted posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:35 PM
....temporarily :)
Since people are already asking me where she went: she's getting her second major update (GND 4.2) with a lot of new content, and will be back in the store on Friday. Shes basically being brought in line with my Alyson 2 characters.
If you already own her, the update is free - just redownload and reinstall.
cheers,
-Gabriel
moriador posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:00 PM
Will the update overwrite anything? I have unfinished projects using her, so I wouldn't want to load the scenes and be surprised by unforeseen changes to old files.
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LaurieA posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:17 PM
Good to know. Thanks Gabe ;). Can't imagine how you'd improve on her (she's about the only full body morph of Vicky I use) ;).
Laurie
Blackhearted posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 6:17 PM
Quote - Will the update overwrite anything? I have unfinished projects using her, so I wouldn't want to load the scenes and be surprised by unforeseen changes to old files.
it overwrites everything.
new textures will give her a new skintone regardless of whether or not you load the new skin shaders, but this isnt a problem unless youre in the middle of doing something like a comic book and dont want her skintone to change halfway through :)
there will be a second INJ that injects new morphs, and a separate folder with the new shaders so that people with <Poser 9 or DS can continue using her as before.
shedofjoy posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 7:08 PM
cool, will the body morph still remain the same?
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MistyLaraCarrara posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 7:22 PM
is she weight mapped?
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Blackhearted posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 7:30 PM
Quote - cool, will the body morph still remain the same?
yes but with many new additional morphs.
Quote - is she weight mapped?
still using her traditional rigging so that all clothing will remain 100% compatible.
moriador posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 8:05 PM
Quote - > Quote - Will the update overwrite anything? I have unfinished projects using her, so I wouldn't want to load the scenes and be surprised by unforeseen changes to old files.
it overwrites everything.
new textures will give her a new skintone regardless of whether or not you load the new skin shaders, but this isnt a problem unless youre in the middle of doing something like a comic book and dont want her skintone to change halfway through :)
there will be a second INJ that injects new morphs, and a separate folder with the new shaders so that people with <Poser 9 or DS can continue using her as before.
I should have been more specific. What I meant to ask was, will it overwrite anything in such a way as to cause noticeable changes to an already existing PZ3 containing GND4?
If the skin texture is the only thing I'll notice, then I won't worry about it.
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to the update.
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Blackhearted posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 8:21 PM
^no, just the skin texture. all of the other stuff you have to click on to load :)
Kazam561 posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 9:47 PM
Very, very cool... many, many thanks :)
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moriador posted Wed, 11 July 2012 at 12:47 AM
Quote - ^no, just the skin texture. all of the other stuff you have to click on to load :)
Much thanks. Your accessibility in the forums is greatly appreciated. :)
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3doutlaw posted Wed, 11 July 2012 at 12:11 PM
Gabe, what happened to the GNDA expressions? Did that get shelved?
Blackhearted posted Wed, 11 July 2012 at 12:18 PM
some were included with GND: Shae, the rest are coming this month.
3doutlaw posted Wed, 11 July 2012 at 12:29 PM
Great, thanks!
SamTherapy posted Wed, 11 July 2012 at 1:09 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to giving the new version a spin.
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Lyrra posted Wed, 11 July 2012 at 7:53 PM
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:22 AM
SamTherapy posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:31 AM
LaurieA posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:33 AM
Lookin good :)
Laurie
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:43 AM
thanks :P
Laurie: your old thread on the bead thingies (and BB) helped me a lot on the glass for the glasses, it was a PITA to get it to look right. im sure someone out there can improve it but for now it works pretty good, in some angles the slight lensatic distortion is pretty neat :P
LaurieA posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:51 AM
Quote - thanks :P
Laurie: your old thread on the bead thingies (and BB) helped me a lot on the glass for the glasses, it was a PITA to get it to look right. im sure someone out there can improve it but for now it works pretty good, in some angles the slight lensatic distortion is pretty neat :P
Yeah, that thread turned out to be quite productive...lol. Lots of great tips ;).
Laurie
bagginsbill posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 9:34 AM
I'm looking forward to getting this update. GND4 is one of the few things I bought over the years.
Did you remove the burned-in specular on the textures, especially the lip? It's one of my major rants.
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 9:46 AM
Quote - I'm looking forward to getting this update. GND4 is one of the few things I bought over the years. Did you remove the burned-in specular on the textures, especially the lip?
yes, all over the body and head, as well as balancing out all the textures to look better in all lighting. although ive left the lips since they render well with the new shader.
people need to remember that this character, as well as the PDF tutorial, was made back in 2007 -- over 5 years ago -- and a lot has changed since then. this is the second major, free update.
shedofjoy posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 9:56 AM
Is it out today?, and do i have to trawl through my acount to find the download from my original purchase?, as i have no idea when i did buy GND4, lol
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 9:57 AM
any minute now.
3doutlaw posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 9:59 AM
...and its free to anyone who purchased GNDA? :tongue1:
(doesn't hurt to try!)
shedofjoy posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:00 AM
woop woop... cant wait
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:01 AM
Quote - ...and its free to anyone who purchased GNDA? :tongue1: (doesn't hurt to try!)
its currently 50% off to anyone that purchased GNDA :P ---->
3doutlaw posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:02 AM
Ha! I see it now, in the Sneak Peek!
3doutlaw posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:06 AM
So, just to be sure...this is a V4 injection, and can wear anything V4, with the use of something like Morphing Clothes? (with, I assume, very little distortion)
shedofjoy posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:17 AM
Yay...got it... thanks Blackhearted
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:23 AM
yes, its a set of morphs for V4.
theres a lot of clothing either made specifically for her and/or including her morph (although vendors really need to start utilizing MP categories and keywords better), WW type apps can fit V4 clothes to her, and both lyrra and alizea released fitting magnets for her.
just keep in mind that the new morphs like preggo, breasttiny, breathe, etc have just been added so a lot of existing clothing will not have those morphs built-in.
i will be updating her bikini to fit the new FBMs and to add some more utility morphs and shaders, but not in the next week because i have some other deadlines to meet. the GND4 update was initially meant to just add a new SSS shader to her and go in under the radar but it snowballed into a major update (thats the way these updates usually go).
im not sure if i will be issuing similar updates for my Gen II characters, but im thinking about it. so much to do, so little time :(
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:23 AM
Quote - Yay...got it... thanks Blackhearted
yw, enjoy :P
WandW posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:46 AM
Gabe, what hair did you use in the Promo?
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LaurieA posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:58 AM
That's one of Fabi's hairs I'll wager. Alanis hair? It's beautiful :) Laurie
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:06 AM
^Alanis hair by fabiana (its in the vendor editorial), with the geometry morphed a bit and with a touch of postwork.
its the same hair i used in the Anastasia promos (although i morphed it differently for Anastasia): i love that thing, best hair since the legendary Sapphire Fox hair :)
SamTherapy posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:13 AM
3doutlaw posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:27 AM
Is Saphire Fox what you used on the GND4 bikini promos?
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:33 AM
sapphire fox is what i used on my Gen II stuff (with postwork). keep in mind these images are from >7 years ago.
goldie posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:53 AM
do like what you've done with her, especially her face--she's a very beautiiul, sexy gal.
colorcurvature posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 12:29 PM
greatest promo image i have seen so far. damn good job :)
toastie posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 12:43 PM
Oh rats.
I don't need any more V4s. That's how I excused my purchase of GNDA - because she wasn't V4 and was something different. And now I want this one. Not fair. :tongue2:
LaurieA posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 12:52 PM
Quote - Oh rats.
I don't need any more V4s. That's how I excused my purchase of GNDA - because she wasn't V4 and was something different. And now I want this one. Not fair. :tongue2:
Hehehehe...if you have Morphing Clothes you can probably fit anything you want to BH's version. I want ALL his ladies...starting with GND2 and Irina (which I don't have yet). All I have are Anastasia (was a gift) and GND4 and Elowen (which I won in "The Best Mouse Callus contest YEARS ago...lol.). I'd probably still win :P Laurie
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 12:57 PM
didnt i send you a burned DVD of my entire store for winning? LOL
i should have another one of those contests :P
im sure you need 'approval' and all kindsof beurocratic stuff now though, LOL -- not like the wild west this place and the complaint & debate forum was back then :P
SamTherapy posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 1:11 PM
Welp, I can see GND4 surrounded by Daleks in my future. :)
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LaurieA posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 1:51 PM
Quote - didnt i send you a burned DVD of my entire store for winning? LOL
i should have another one of those contests :P
im sure you need 'approval' and all kindsof beurocratic stuff now though, LOL -- not like the wild west this place and the complaint & debate forum was back then :P
You did! LOL I have Elowen and Black Eyes ;). I don't think you and Rio had much more than that in your store at the time ;). Elowen wasn't long after Angelyna, was it? I know you gave Angelyna away for free. I have her on a disk - somewhere ;). Laurie
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 3:19 PM
My wallet hates you, Blackhearted...But it's such a sweet, beautiful hate...
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SaintFox posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 3:34 PM
Gabriel, I just pop in to say thank you and tell you what happended today. I came home, took a look into Renderosity and wow... a new Blackhearted-Doll, a variation of GND for V4! Without reading anything I counted my coins and took her into the basket - to see that I stil own her...?! And my account told me that I get her as an update. VERY generous, thank you a lot!!
...as I like the "old" GND still: Am I able to use both faces, the previous one and the new or should I install the new version to a different location to be able to use both variations?
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 3:57 PM
youre welcome :P
all the old content is still there.
if youre referring to the very old GND 4.0 head, thats in there too - just be careful that you dont 'double up' on the morphs. to use that one you need to turn down the default GND4 head, so one of the head morphs should always be at 0 (or if you combine them, the sum of the morphs shouldnt exceed 1).
also, if at any time during posing you hit ZERO FIGURE, it will not zero the GND Body morph, but it will zero the head morph (back to default V4) - possibly because the latter is not an FBM, or doesnt use the PBMCC__ channels? im not sure, if anyone knows the solution to that ill add it to the list of features ill address in the next update (perhaps with some new lips that BB suggested), but its not a critical issue so i wont issue an update just for that.
cheers,
-Gabriel
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 4:03 PM
btw i would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me if the !!GND4_Bonus_Morphs.pz2 injection and the eyeglasses (the non-REFRACT ones) work in D|S, so i can add that info to my product page.
ive had a few people ask me already if it will.
FSMCDesigns posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 4:44 PM
Quote - btw i would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me if the !!GND4_Bonus_Morphs.pz2 injection and the eyeglasses (the non-REFRACT ones) work in D|S, so i can add that info to my product page.
ive had a few people ask me already if it will.
Give me a second and I will check. The morphs look great on Genesis, thanks for the update!!
Regards, Michael
3doutlaw posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 4:45 PM
Yes, those seem to work fine in DS4 (on V4 that is)
SaintFox posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 4:49 PM
I still have the oldest head (as I like the grown-up ladylike look of it) and the second version. Both work fine - and so I want to make sure that I add the new face as a third option as to me the three look like sisters of different age and character. Good to hear that I can install them all without destroying one. And yes, using two of them together does bizarre things, I already did this by accident ;)
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3doutlaw posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 4:51 PM
Works fine in DS3 as well... (tried all bonus morphs, and loaded the glasses, in both cases)
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 4:52 PM
sweet, thank you both.
so i can put works in D|S (except for Poser 9 SSS shaders) - in the product requirements?
3doutlaw posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 4:55 PM
Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 5:02 PM
^yeah i wasnt expecting those to work at all, since theyre 100% opaque and rely on the refract node to look right. incidentally, in Poser if there is nothing behind the glasses (such as rendering a figure with no background), then the parts of the lens without the figure's face behind them will render black. the refract node needs something behind it to refract.
theres a second 'failsafe' pair of the glasses with standard transparency for the lens that should work in DS.
im sure both could be further tweaked, but im starting to find out that glass is the most frustrating thing to get to look right in Poser :P
ssgbryan posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 5:21 PM
Quote - im not sure if i will be issuing similar updates for my Gen II characters, but im thinking about it. so much to do, so little time :(
The Gen II aren't in my collection, but I would definately buy them if you did an update.
Lyne posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 5:52 PM
OH my lord! 50% off!??! How can I not?! I still adore my V3 "lora croft style" lady... but this... but hey... CLOTHES!? I mean, you really must want me to do nudes for the first time in my life, right!? grin teasing you...
um... what is the "carrara inj's. zip" ? I have Carrara but humans look terrible in it..and it's tooo slow... but am curious.. especially when the zip says UNSUPPORTED! LOL!
Really - DO V4 clothes fit her? I just bought CrossDresser too...but there is no GND help there... should I ask them to do one?
Anyway... I have now offically joined the updated GND club! ;)
Lyne
PS AND SORRY - GOING BACK THROUGH THE POSTS TO READ ABOUT THE CLOTHING ISSUES AFTER I WROTE THIS... WOOPS!
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LaurieA posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 6:06 PM
I think you can use Morphing Clothes Lyne...but that's another purchase ;). Laurie
ssgbryan posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 6:07 PM
Quote - I think you can use Morphing Clothes Lyne...but that's another purchase ;). Laurie
And the best purchase any Poser user can make.
nobodyinparticular posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 6:11 PM
Thank you, sir. Once again you have blown my hobby budget, but in a nice way. Anastasia will have some company now. Now to see how well Morphing Clothes works on these new morphs. Maybe I can harass the folks at Poserworld to make some new items......
toastie posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 6:44 PM
So does the Morphing clothes thing work and get a decent fit for GND4? One of my reasons for not getting her in the past was lack of clothes and no XD support (booooo!).
I've got GND2, Irina and GNDA and none of them have anything to wear other than Irina's bikini and dynamic draperies.
I do have Stormchaser which has GND4 fit, but I think that's all. I'm having a bit of trouble talking myself into this one actually :(
Zaarin posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:09 PM
Quote - My wallet hates you, Blackhearted...But it's such a sweet, beautiful hate...
QFT. First I buy Anastasia despite having next to nothing to dress her in. Now, after years of resisting the beauty of GND4, you just made her too beautiful to resist. :( :P
WandW posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:18 PM
You hit it on the nose, Zaarin; I just bought the bimbo too! :lol:
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 7:47 PM
Quote - I do have Stormchaser which has GND4 fit, but I think that's all. I'm having a bit of trouble talking myself into this one actually :(
ok come on now! there are at least 50+ clothing sets in the various marketplaces and freestuff that are either made specifically for GND or have GND fits included. i cant help that merchants dont take the time to use product keywords and kitting properly.
WandW posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 8:24 PM
OK, it's three minutes...
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 8:33 PM
^not sure where youre getting that from, i just spent 15 min going through every single material and they are set to 'use gamma from render settings'. you may have changed it yourself and not noticed?
what i did notice is that the eyelashes dont have gamma set to 1.0 -- so if you end up with sparse lashes while using gamma correction youll need to change the map in 6_Eyelash to use custom gamma value of 1.0. ill mark that for fixing in the next update.
Letterworks posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 8:41 PM
Quote - So does the Morphing clothes thing work and get a decent fit for GND4? One of my reasons for not getting her in the past was lack of clothes and no XD support (booooo!).
I've got GND2, Irina and GNDA and none of them have anything to wear other than Irina's bikini and dynamic draperies.
I do have Stormchaser which has GND4 fit, but I think that's all. I'm having a bit of trouble talking myself into this one actually :(
toastie, are you saying YOU having nothing for those characters to wear, or attempting to make a statment that there is nothing in the market place for them? Right now I have 2 products in the market place that can be used with GND4 and up until a short while ago i hade a set in there for Irina that was even in clearence, admittedly it;s gone from the store now but I assume you didn;t just buy Irina.
I have no idea why you are attepting to say there are no clothing for these characters. There are even a good number of clothing fits for various items in FREESTUFF. Admittedly Anastasia has a bit of a space wardrobe right now, a lot of us are trying to fix that, but for myself, I want to produce the bast product posiible with my limited talent and time, and the art of learning to get the best out of the new weightmapping has taken more time to learn than I originally planned..
If this is just because you, yourself don;t have clothing in your runtime for the characters, or can;t afford to buy any of the large number of available commercial clothing items for them you should make that clear rather than give a false impression about the usability of these characters to others.
WandW posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 8:46 PM
Quote - ^not sure where youre getting that from, i just spent 15 min going through every single material and they are set to 'use gamma from render settings'. you may have changed it yourself and not noticed?
what i did notice is that the eyelashes dont have gamma set to 1.0 -- so if you end up with sparse lashes while using gamma correction youll need to change the map in 6_Eyelash to use custom gamma value of 1.0. ill mark that for fixing in the next update.
I routinely use the changegamma script to correct transparency and bump maps after loading everything, so perhaps a glitch changed the setting on the limb map to 1.0. It was an easy enough fix. I'll try it out later on a normal Vicky...
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Janl posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 8:47 PM
Quote - Now, after years of resisting the beauty of GND4, you just made her too beautiful to resist. :( :P
She has just entered my runtime too. She is gorgeous!
Glen posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 9:33 PM
I wish I could afford her! She'll be an awesome upgrade for Victoria! Oh well... Some day maybe! :'(
Nice work and thankyou very much!
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Lyne posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:29 PM
Well I needed it anyway for other characters, so I bought Cross Dresser, and tho it does not have a GND, I read the posts here, so I will be fixing her up with clothes that have many morphs built into them... I am ok with "hand dialing" clothes to fit bodies...
Tho she is very tempting to do a nude... grin! blush
.... and also doing the "treasure hunt" in the market place for clothing for fits for her... the RMP search engine has problems...known that for years... hopefully they will fix it... people talk about it all the time in the Community or MarketPlace support forum.
Best,
Lyne
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 10:31 PM
I will make you a deal:
I will trade you GND4 for a hand-drawn MS Paint picture of a pug fighting a unicorn on a mountaintop. the pug should be of the golden variety, as pictured above.
if you choose to decline, the offer passes on to the first person who produces such a drawing, posts it in their gallery and links it in this thread.
Lyne posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:07 PM
Hey you all who want clothes for her! I went to freestuff and just put in GND4...and I found a wonderful site FREE TO REGISTER with MANY fits for clothes! Now I will buy clothes that has her fits! How cool is that!? I am not going to put her direct link here, because I am sure it needs to be in FREESTUFF forum...but go look! :))
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Lyne posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:14 PM
um I just found this product:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=79419
so am wondering if I need it for my brand new GND 4.2 ? OR - if my PERFECT V4 fixes I already bought for my reg V4 would work on GND?
what is your opinion Blackhearted?
thanks!
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Blackhearted posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:22 PM
^you could use the morphing tool to fix any joint issues on the fly, in seconds, on any character, for free :)
Lyrra posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:29 PM
Or you can add the gnd4 morph to clothing with the use of my GND4 Magnet set, which gives you more control over the end result
Sorry to be crass and post a commercial offsite link .... but er .. this magnet set is sold at my own site directly.
http://www.cyclopsstudio.net/
As soon as I get the new files I will be adding any new GND4 morphs to the magnet set
BH
I'm glad you decided to revists GND4, she looks great. I know so many people love this morph, its nice to see her with spiffy new materials.
Lyrra
LaurieA posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:32 PM
Just a reminder that Mint was gracious enough to make her Highlander available for free ;). It's in freestuff here and there's a GND4 fit for it on that page that Lyne linked to :). Laurie
LilWolff posted Fri, 13 July 2012 at 11:44 PM
Quote - > Quote - I wish I could afford her! She'll be an awesome upgrade for Victoria! Oh well... Some day maybe!:'( Nice work and thankyou very much!
I will make you a deal:
I will trade you GND4 for a hand-drawn MS Paint picture of a pug fighting a unicorn on a mountaintop. the pug should be of the golden variety, as pictured above.
if you choose to decline, the offer passes on to the first person who produces such a drawing, posts it in their gallery and links it in this thread.
That has got to be one of the coolest trades I have seen! :-)
@Lyne
Hi sweetie thanks for the info about freestuff. I bet I also already have a lot of clothes with morphs for GND4 already in my runtime.
moriador posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 4:23 AM
Quote - um I just found this product:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=79419
so am wondering if I need it for my brand new GND 4.2 ? OR - if my PERFECT V4 fixes I already bought for my reg V4 would work on GND?
what is your opinion Blackhearted?
thanks!
GND4, being more anatomically correct IMO, has some built-in fixes. My experience is that, at the default values, the Perfect series does not go perfectly well with her in some poses, particularly around the knees (because GND knees are very nicely sculpted -- and the Perfect series is designed for V4's prematurely swollen and arthritic joints). You probably need to dial down the values. If you're so inclined, you can then pull out the morph brush and touch up the few areas that remain.
ETA: I didn't realize Corvas had made a shoulder fix specifically for GND. I've been using his V4 one all this time. I actually haven't tested the Perfect shoulder fix on GND.
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toastie posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 5:04 AM
Hey! I never said anything about there being no clothes for GND4!
I said I don't have any clothes for GND4. The reason for this being that I don't own GND4!
:cursing:
Xameva posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 5:26 AM
Amazing update! Thank you very much for making it free - quite generous of you. Plus the first timers get it 50% off, awesome work all around.
Lully posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 5:58 AM
Phoenix1966 has a tonne of fits in sharecg,
http://www.sharecg.com/pf/full_uploads.php?pf_user_name=Phoenix1966
Think this is his/her private site with lots on although its a reg site
http://www.alizea3d.com/3d-content/freestuff/gnd4-clothing-fits/
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Glen posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 10:05 AM
Quote - I will make you a deal: I will trade you GND4 for a hand-drawn MS Paint picture of a pug fighting a unicorn on a mountaintop. the pug should be of the golden variety, as pictured above.
if you choose to decline, the offer passes on to the first person who produces such a drawing, posts it in their gallery and links it in this thread.
I'm afraid I don't have MS Paint because I removed it to make room for more Poser things. :-/
I do have Photoshop though, so I hope this will suffice. Here is a hand drawn Photoshop picture of a pug fighting a unicorn on a mountaintop. Thankyou for the inspiration, lol!
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/full.php?image_id=2348563
I'm running Win 10 Pro 32GB RAM Intel Core i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
My DA Gallery: glen85.deviantart.com/gallery
Peace, love and polygons!
Blackhearted posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 10:13 AM
^wow that is awesome, i wasnt expecting something so polished and artistic :P
pm incoming :)
3doutlaw posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 10:14 AM
Love it!
LaurieA posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 10:35 AM
That's great charly! LOL Laurie
Glen posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 1:03 PM
Lol, haa thankyou, I'm shocked that you think it's so good to be honest! Blushes I'm really quite rubbish with a blank canvas; photo manipulation and post work on renders is all well and good, but I don't normally do stuff like this. Hah, aww, thankyou so much! :'D
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LaurieA posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 1:40 PM
Congrats...hehe. Laurie
3doutlaw posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 1:42 PM
Trying out morphing clothes, and when I inject the !BODY_INJ.pz2 for GND4.2, I get a "Some script calls were not resolved. Continue?" ,dialog.
The GND morph does not show up in the list...as a result, even if I continue.
Any ideas what this may be from, or if there are Morphing Clothes "logs" that I can gather and send to Ralph?
(I sent a site-mail to D3D) Anyone else try this yet? Am I the first?
colorcurvature posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 2:03 PM
Maybe apply the INJ, then save her back to the library, and use Morphing Clothes with the .cr2? (I never used it, I do not know how it works ;)
3doutlaw posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 2:22 PM
OK, thats an idea, Ill give it a shot.
UPDATE: Seems to work, thanks! Trying it out on an outfit now.
SaintFox posted Sat, 14 July 2012 at 4:40 PM
Laurie mentioned Morphing Clothes: It's well worth the money!! I use it all the time to fit clothes to custom body morphs (and there are sooo many custom tweaks and enhancements available in these days!) - and it is not limited to Victoria!
About your question: Right - you save GND to your character library, load her to mrohing clothes and click all her morphs in a list. Then save this to the presets so that you can choose the GND-morphs with one click next time. That's all.
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3doutlaw posted Sun, 15 July 2012 at 10:22 PM
She makes a nice Lara! (click for bigger)
jjroland posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 9:49 AM
I feel a little dense because I've actually never gotten an update for anything I've purchased from this store. So I did go to the marketplace - find GND4 and went to add her to my cart because I assumed the update DL would come that way. Then it tells me "tough cookies, you already own this" - yeah I know so give me the update. Well it wouldn't.
So I went and searched through all my past orders (gosh I wish there was an easier way to do that) and found it.
I just re-downloaded the zips from there. Is that the correct way to get the updated zips?
I am: aka Velocity3d
LaurieA posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 10:05 AM
Yeah, the updates show up in your account history. At least they have a search in there or I'd never find anything....lol. Laurie
jjroland posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 10:07 AM
err I sure do wish I would have noticed a "search" function. All I could do was say "Ok, it has to be an order over $20." :p
*edit - found the search, at the bottom. Thanks for the tip about that, now at least I'll never have to do it the hard way again.
I am: aka Velocity3d
paganeagle2001 posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 10:16 AM
To check for updates:-
Select the Members tab, My Account option.
Now select Item list.
Click the downwards pointing triangle at the end of Sort by Vendor.
Move down the list until you see:-
Blackhearted
Select the Go button.
You will now see the items by Blackhearted that you have bought.
Look for the GND4 Athletic files.
At the end of the line, you should see a date on which they have been updated.
If you have downloaded before that date, then the new updated files are of use to you, so download and install.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
SaintFox posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 11:33 AM
It is even easier: Go to your Account, click the Item list and click on "Updated?" - and everything is sorted from the most recent to the oldest Update. By comparing the purchase date against the date of the update you can see if you have the most recent version (as long as you did not download the update before).
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Lully posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 11:41 AM
easiest way I find is go to the item list and select the vendor from the drop down, it then only shows a few from that particular vendor
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jjroland posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 12:30 PM
Helpful tips! Thanks!
I am: aka Velocity3d
3doutlaw posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 1:17 PM
In case anyone is not sure how the magnets work versus an auto-clothes morpher, they work very well! Takes a little more time (IMO) to get it right, but the results are worth it. Both tools get the job done, and its a decision of the right tool for the right job. For example, in that Lara render of mine, a few posts back, that was with Morphing Clothes, and in that render (angle), the leg bands look fine.
On the flip side, I just got the GND4 magnets, cause I was not happy with the results of the leg bands conversion overall (for future renders)...here is a pic of the bands fitted via Lyrra's Magnets on left (brown), versus MC on right (black). Both are fitted well, but there is some distortion with the automated approach. It's a trade-off I guess.
Thought it would be worth it to show it.
(and if you do get them, Ockhams Delete Magnets script is helpful :) )
jjroland posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 1:25 PM
I love love love this update!!! It has made this character far more useful to me now. I really love the updated shader! Also the additional morphs make it possible to get a less extreme looking figure without having to load all of the V4 morphs. Looks fantastic! Thank you!
I am: aka Velocity3d
SaintFox posted Mon, 16 July 2012 at 1:35 PM
Yes, it highly depends on the clothes you use what works better. I use different tools as well.
I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!
And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!
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operaguy posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 9:07 AM
[click for full]
Thanks for the fine -- and free -- update!
One unanswered question: could you please advise the GPS coordinates for the town in which such femme are found "next door?"
Appreciated.
NOTE: this is Blackhearted's face/head morph and body morph, but I switched out the skin maps for another as his were not working with my lighting scheme. No additional morphs, "Perfects" or other mods applied to V, except for the pose.
All kidding aside, this is a fun morph, but all renders and poses tongue-in-cheek as she is anatomically improbable IRL.
::::: Opera :::::
[edited to add: I did spin up one or two of Blackhearted's included 'extra' morphs to, er, right-size her upper superstructure to my liking!]
bagginsbill posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 9:25 AM
Excellent render, Opera. Skin, lighting, pose, hair - wow.
Only one nitpick - eyes are diverging. Cover half the face and look at each.
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operaguy posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 9:36 AM
i have the eyes "looking at" a prop, it must be too far away. Great catch.
Also, for some reason, the primitive did not produce reflection as expected. To busy to fix in post.
Thanks for the thumbs up.
::::: Opera :::::
P.S. you don't have those GPS coordinates by any chance?
Blackhearted posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 12:07 PM
Quote - One unanswered question: could you please advise the GPS coordinates for the town in which such femme are found "next door?" All kidding aside, this is a fun morph, but all renders and poses tongue-in-cheek as she is anatomically improbable IRL.
[edited to add: I did spin up one or two of Blackhearted's included 'extra' morphs to, er, right-size her upper superstructure to my liking!]
not improbable at all, you just gotta get out more. its summer, hit the beaches :)
here ya go:
44°31′14″N 80°01′00″W
maybe it does have to do with the region though? both the per capita and proximity to beaches of McDonalds and Taco Bell is much lower around here :)
SamTherapy posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 2:04 PM
With the smaller breasts morph the body is just about the double of my Sister in Law.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
SaintFox posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 3:06 PM
One unanswered question: could you please advise the GPS coordinates for the town in which such femme are found "next door?"
Get a ticket to London, the first olympic athletes just arrived there. Look out for marathon runners, high jumpers and so on. When you watch the olympics on tv listen closely where the next door of a training center is and you will find them in large swarms! 
*
About the strange look: I found that I get best result to let one eye point at a target and then adjust the other one by hand (by using the face camera with the same values as the one you want to use for the render). By adjusting the iris of the non-pointed eye to have the same space between the corner of the eye and the eyelids you get a pretty convincing look. As soon as the eye has a different shape as the standard V4 (especially asian shapes with the ethnic crease) the figure even can look cross eyed if nothing is wrong. The same happens in real life (Just google Lucy Liu to see what I mean - although I am not sure if she does not suffer from a real strabismus).
An exeption: If a person or figure looks on something that is very close (as more the more you lift the target above the head) anyone shows a slight strabismus.
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Blackhearted posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 3:28 PM
a quick and dirty method is to set the eyes to point at: main camera
then go to the individual eyes and set the point at value to ~0.7. this slightly 'unfocuses' the eyes from the camera and takes away the crosseyedness, which allows you to render a bunch of images at roughly the same distance quickly without having to fuss with turning eye dials for every shot. i assume it would also work for animation as long as the distance from the camera were kept roughly consistent.
SaintFox posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 3:35 PM
Okay, this goes to my tips-textfile. For stills I was happy with the method above, for animations yours seems perfect!
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operaguy posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 5:43 PM
without experimenting, a would say this is excellent if the character is looking into the camera during animation. Sometimes they look away. "Pointing at" a primitive, and moving it right behind the camera when looking it, but then animating the primitive, might prove productive.
:: og ::
Blackhearted posted Tue, 17 July 2012 at 6:24 PM
^yeah you can do that as well although the primitive needs to either have a left and right eye focus object at about the same distance apart as the figure's eyes, OR, you need to move it really, really far away.
although TBH the 'slightly crosseyed focused on the camera' thing is actually accurate. take a photo of yourself with your camera at <8 feet or so, and youll be crosseyed if you look into the lens.
monkeycloud posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 7:25 AM
I often now am tending to pose figure's eyes with a very slight squint and / or make one ear stick out a little more than the other, etc... just a notch.
Slight asymmetry on any smile / frown, expression morphs applied, etc... also good I think.
All forms of muscularly derived asymmetry I guess?
This is a great tip about pointing the eyes at stuff though, using "point at" setting. I had completely overlooked / wasn't really aware of this feature and have been doing it all in a laboriously manual way... I'll have to try it out.
Cheers
LaurieA posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 7:35 AM
Mankahoo's Angela and Ang2 figures have a dial called "focus" which is also really handy when the eyes are pointing at something and you don't want them to look crosseyed. I wish the Daz figures had it.
Gabe is right too...the farther away the object is you're pointing at, the better. If it's close you'll get the crosseyed look because people go crosseyed when looking at close objects...lol.
Laurie
monkeycloud posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 7:38 AM
Quote - With the smaller breasts morph the body is just about the double of my Sister in Law.
So does she live next door to Blackhearted?
Blackhearted posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 8:16 AM
^noone lives next door to me,
but 'The Girl from the Next Concession' didnt have such a ring to it.
no worries though -- if she looks like that, i'll gladly put her up :P
bagginsbill posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 12:21 PM
If you do not know what the fovea centralis is, please look it up first.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fovea_centralis
Now:
The fovea is off center by 4 to 8 degrees (varies from one individual to another, just like noses) towards the temple, away from the central optic axis. (The optic axis is a straight line through the middle of the lens.)
This means when we look at something, the eye is not pointed at that thing, but is in fact pointing away from it by 4 to 8 degrees, towards the outside. Looking at something at infinity, the eyes should diverge 4 to 8 degrees from where the head is pointing.
Assuming a 5 degree deviation (which I use with the BBEye), and assuming a typical separation between eyes of 3 inches, we can calculate the distance at which the eyes should be parallel if looking at some object.
1.5 / tan(5 degrees) = 17.14 inches
So - real people looking at something 17 inches from there eyes have their eyes exactly parallel. Only within 17 inches are the eyes "crossed".
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monkeycloud posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 1:56 PM
Yup... that's kind of what I was intuitively responding to with my squinty eyes technique. Honest :biggrin:
LOL :lol:
Plus, I guess I know a probably above average number of squinty eyed people... on whom I base my notion of what looks real...
bagginsbill posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 3:26 PM
V4 eyes (hidden) "Point at" Dolly Camera.
BB Eyes mounted on V4 eyes with 0 degrees of deviation.
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bagginsbill posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 3:27 PM
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bagginsbill posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 3:45 PM
0 degrees
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bagginsbill posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 3:45 PM
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bagginsbill posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 4:04 PM
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monkeycloud posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 4:44 PM
Ha ha! Excellent!
LOL :lol:
LaurieA posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 4:56 PM
Quote - Sorry - forgot what thread I'm in.
LOL
Laurie
Zaarin posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 5:53 PM
You really need to release the commercial BBEye soon. I can live with eyes now that EZSkin is out...but I'd still rather have yours. ;)
operaguy posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 6:03 PM
You know, Penny got Sheldon to help her commericalize her Penny Blossoms. I ask you, who is there to help Sheldon turn his genius into an enterprise?
[note: thanks Tom (dreamland models) for getting the ball rolling]
::::: Opera :::::
operaguy posted Wed, 18 July 2012 at 11:57 PM
What's that thing? hint: it is not a prop for focusing eyes!
haunted by Blackhearted's suggestion that GND might be found IRL, especially at sporting events, I went over to London.
I FOUND HER! She is training with Hope Solo, American goalie.
We had a little discussion on her outfit. Seems the American team is in trouble over their uniforms. They are made in China! SCANDAL! GND was working out in her suggestion for replacement outfits. I expressed my enthusiasm for the idea.
I am dubious this will get any traction. However, I enjoyed the fact that Hope kept making GND practice her goal kick over and over and over.....
http://jrdonohue.com/gnd-on-the-pitch.mp4
should open in Quicktime and WMP. 345K.
::::: Opera :::::
Blackhearted posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 4:11 PM
SamTherapy posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 4:44 PM
This is one of the most interesting and downright nicest looking threads we've had here in a long while.
Having had only a few short moments to try the updated version in Poser 6, I can say without fear of contradiction, it's bloody spectacular. Many thanks, BH.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
operaguy posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 4:52 PM
yes chemise please
monkeycloud posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 5:40 PM
Quote - ^i can put this dynamic chemise in freestuff tonight if people are interested.
Yer... course. Looks like a very nice chemise
Blackhearted posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 6:25 PM
packaging it up and writing a readme now.
i also decided to add her morphs to it as well since i can do it in half an hour and itll save people a lot of hassle to be able to just dial the base shape to her morphs rather than having to shrink the dress onto her.
Janl posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 6:26 PM
Quote - ^i can put this dynamic chemise in freestuff tonight if people are interested.
Looks great! Thank you!
shante posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 6:29 PM
Yes to the Chemise....though I will have to get some simple 3rd grade intelligence level tutorials to learn how to use dynamic clothes.....I went from P4 to P7 in one leap of faith and never even really learned all of P4 so needless to sa a bit behind the learning curve! :(
I re-downloaded my version of her and wondered if Posermatics NGMs for the old version will work for this versionas well....though I have been using the basic V4 NGM's for all V4 based figures and characters including V4Girl and V4 Stephanie and even the Reworked K4 figures, without much of a hitch.....But just wondered if you knew.
Will this need the V4++ morphs included or will it work with the standard base V4? (I don't remember if the original GND4 worked without all those morphs installed first).
Also hoping you will eventually create the Henna tattoos for her as you did for V3. THat was a great set. I purchased them as soon as i saw them in the store and had to convert them for use with V2 at the time because I wasn't able to use V3. But though useable with a bit of post work, they weren't so good converted. So hoping that originals for GND and/or V4 will someday be made available by you. Should I hold my BREFF!? LOL
BTW Thanks muchly for this. When I saw it advertised I was going to contact you to see if there was a free or cheaper upgrade cost for owners of the previous version but kept forgetting. Glad I stumbled on this thread.
Will you be announcing the availablilty of the bikini and her lingerie set here as well when done?
Blackhearted posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 6:52 PM
the chemise should be done soon, but packaging and writing readmes is always a time-consuming PITA. i just had an idea that while im making morphs for it i may as well morph it to Anastasia, Shae and GND2 as well - why the hell not, its dynamic and this is what dynamic is made for. so itll be awhile but i will get it done tonight.
cheers,
-gabriel
shante posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 7:11 PM
LOL
Well thanks 6 times over for answering them all!
Well judging from older threads and discussion I have been involved in with you in the past, or just read about you, got the impression you don't seem to get much sleep....if true...answering my stupid questions will give you a good reason to stay awake.....LONGER! LOL
Yes, I have Posermatic's NGM for her as well as V4, Girl and V3 & V2 and they do add an incredible amount of credible realism for the lovers of larger breasted female renders....but wanted to make sure they will also work for this update. You say you just added additional breast morphs so if I just re-downloaded from my account, I guess I will have to DL it again?
Since not sure how Dynamic cloth works from never having tried using it, will the bikini work with these NGM's applied too or would that just be for Super dynamic clothes?
Just took a slow hike through your store and saw the very nice Shae character. Wish I had P9 to use her and anastasia....both beautiful figures. DNA had it (P9) for sale for a song but I have had a hard enough time getting my dead head wrapped around P7, the idea of upgrading AGAIN gave me the Poser Shivers.
Love the hair you kindly packed with her. Been picking up a Runtime Folder full of Afro hair and doing more renders with beautiful black and other brown ethnic women and seeing her hair I had to ask if you would sell that at some time by itself? It's very nice and realistic.
Blackhearted posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 7:24 PM
and no, good lord, i did not add more breast morphs since the 4.2 update: i mean i added several with the update :)
im not sure how well the Shae hair would work in the OLD hair room, since there have been many improvements to it - especially with regards to speed.
i would highly recommend poser 9, to anyone:
"I have had a hard enough time getting my dead head wrapped around P7, the idea of upgrading AGAIN gave me the Poser Shivers."
if anything, Poser 9 is faster and easier to use than earlier versions of poser. and the SSS shaders are worth the price of admission alone, theyre the greatest thing to happen to the poser renderer since raytracing. the interface is pretty much the same as Poser 7 so its not like youll be tacking anything new.
in other news, the GND2 morph is done for the chemise.
Blackhearted posted Thu, 19 July 2012 at 9:20 PM
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=68997
enjoy folks,
im heading to bed.
cheers,
-Gabriel
Blackhearted posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 11:16 AM
Updated the file, added more morphs for length, the BreastSize morph now works incrementally.
id appreciate if someone knowledgeable with the cloth room could help me iron out the best settings (if they dont have Anastasia i can send a copy). im having some strange behavior where when the chemise is morphed to Anastasia, it looks great DURING the simulation but after the simulation is finished, the item falls down about 2 feet in all frames - retroactively. its very strange. its not an issue due to collision since it is colliding properly during every frame of the calc, its just that at the end it just drops in all the frames.
when running a sim with GND4 it looks great - like the render pictured above. when running a sim with Anastasia it runs great and then drops at the end. any help is appreciated,
cheers,
-gabriel
Blackhearted posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 11:31 AM
keep in mind that it does NOT do this during the calculation. in fact if you look at the chemise you can see its not just crumpled into a pile but actually deformed properly, the problem seems to be that at the end of the simulation the entire thing squashes down.
im using the exact same settings i used with the GND version thayt resulted in the render above. theres no pokethrough in the base pose: again, its NOT falling through during sim calculation - it looks great through every frame. but when it finishes the calc, boom, it drops down.
im tearing my hair out trying to figure out what it is. **
**
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 12:16 PM
I'm willing to help with the Cloth Room stuff. Don't have Anastasia (yet), but if it's just cloth settings (and not trying to reproduce/solve the problem above), I can work with what I've got.
What kind of fabric are you trying to duplicate? Chiffon? Charmeuse?
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Blackhearted posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 12:22 PM
right now its just the fact that its dropping through the figure after the sim that im worried about. theres something strange going on that MAY have something to do with the fact that the BASE cloth object is made for GND4(V4), and the Anastasia fit is a morph on that base object (which moves the chemise down roughly the same amount the cloth room is dropping it after the sim). may be some wierd sortof bug.
im happy with the actual cloth properties, as you see in the GND4 image posted above it looks great like that.
sending you a PM, if you shoot me an email ill forward you Anastasia.
cheers,
-Gabriel
Zaarin posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 1:28 PM
Does it revert to normal if, after draping, you dial the GNDA morph in the cloth to 0?
Letterworks posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 1:32 PM
Quote - ^like this.
keep in mind that it does NOT do this during the calculation. in fact if you look at the chemise you can see its not just crumpled into a pile but actually deformed properly, the problem seems to be that at the end of the simulation the entire thing squashes down.
im using the exact same settings i used with the GND version thayt resulted in the render above. theres no pokethrough in the base pose: again, its NOT falling through during sim calculation - it looks great through every frame. but when it finishes the calc, boom, it drops down.
im tearing my hair out trying to figure out what it is. **
**
I found this happens when using the chamise on any of the figures but the base (GND4).
Everything works fine until after the final frame of the sim when the clothing object drops. However if you turn the FIT MORPH off in the CLOTHING, the clothing snaps back up to it;s proper place, while retaining the shape form the sim.
Blackhearted posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 1:36 PM
^that seems to do it. thank you both very much....
wth, this is totally counterintuitive BTW! id never have figured that out in a million years.
if anyone has any cloth room settings that yield better results than this (the settings in ClassicChemise_SETTINGS.png) im all ears -- i can update the READMEs with alternate or improved settings for people.
(same as posted above)
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/media/folder_10/file_484018.jpg
LaurieA posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 2:29 PM
I guess you could avoid having to turn it off at the end by turning it off at the part in the sim where you apply a poser. So, for instance, if I was running at 175 frame sim and I put the pose in at frame 75 I'd turn the morph off at either frame 75 or at the last frame. Haven't tried that to see if it works tho, although I don't know why it shouldn't.
Laurie
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 2:38 PM
I am too slow, heh.
The morph only needs to be active on frame 1 of the sim before it's started. You can dail it back to 0 sometime in the simulation, and it works just fine, or you can go in and dail it back after the simulation ends. Either works just fine.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
operaguy posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 2:42 PM
the lady has great bones in her face.
::::: Opera :::::
operaguy posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 2:53 PM
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This shows it off even better.
Notes: this is Blackhearted's head morph, but I manipulated the eyes a little. Skin maps are not his. Otherwise, this is all bh.
nightgown by carib98
::::: Opera :::::
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 3:50 PM
Tips for the Cloth Room:
You can make more than one Dynamic Group. By making a second one and adding the straps to it, you can give it completely different cloth parameters than the body. (If you wanted the main cloth area to be stretchy or floaty, but the straps to have different properties, you can do that!)
I like to bump up the Collision Offset to be larger than the Collision Depth. An additional 0.1 is good in this case.
I'm going to do some sims with different cloth paramaters and post them.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 9:24 PM
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 9:25 PM
This is an approximation of a stiff acetate organza.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 9:26 PM
Silk organza is slightly less stiff than acetate.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 9:27 PM
Heavier momme charmeuse or crepe-back satin.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 9:28 PM
Another charmeuse.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 9:29 PM
This is more chiffon or georgette.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 9:41 PM
For silk (which I suspect is what most people will want to approximate with this garment), you want to keep a fairly high shear resistance. Silk is a very long-staple fiber, and the threads spun from it tend to be strong and very lustrous. Dupioni, shantung, tussah, and especially noil are all shorter silks, but because of the shorter staple, the yarns (and thus fabrics) are usually thicker, negating the effect of the loss of strength in the fiber. The shear resistance doesn't have to be cranked quite so high as I have it, but you want to be careful going very low with it.
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
operaguy posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 10:11 PM
what does "shear resistance" actually mean? I thought it meant resistance to tearing.I usually set it to 500.
Zaarin posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 10:12 PM
Thanks for all that great info, Hana-Hanabi. You should create a thread with settings for non-silk fabrics--you seem to have a great knowledge of cloth, and getting the right drape settings can sometimes be trying. :)
Hana-Hanabi posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 11:31 PM
The picture above is all the base settings that come with the chemise, save for the Shear Resistance, which I have set to 1. It surprisingly doesn't look all that bad, but when you compare it to the base settings above, you can see that the folds are less defined...they start to buckle and crumple in places.
Zaarin, I might do that one of these days...I spin, knit, and sew IRL, so I kind of soak up fiber knowledge, ehehehe. I'll have to do lots of tests with parameter combinations, though. All scientific-like. ^_~
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
shante posted Fri, 20 July 2012 at 11:51 PM
So cool to have extensive experience in actual hands on work with fabrics and then learning the ins and outs of the 3D applications of fabrics and transfering real world skills and experience to the software. Enviable skills. I am so jealous. ;)
After years of using Poser I am still having problems trying to figure out magnets or adding a second Runtime Folder without garnering the ire of some frustrated otherwise helpful folks in the community, never mind learning the cloth room. Now having recently migrated from Poser4 to Poser 7 the idea of getting through this cloth dynamics makes me break out in a cold sweat. I am going to have to mark this thread as urgent and output it as a pdf file to print later for reference if and when I do try learning it You made it sound this aspect of it easy. :(
operaguy posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 12:39 AM
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i left the specular a little high, she's under intense lights for this photoshoot.
Fold Resistance 2.5
Shear Resistance 50
Stretch Resistance 50
Stretch Damping 0.1
Cloth Density 0.05
Cloth Self-friction 0.2
Static Friction 0.5
Dynamic Friction 0.1
Air Damping 0.04
on shader, transparancy .6
::::: Opera :::::
operaguy posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 2:46 AM
what a shape. what a face. thanks Gabe.
Good night all.
::::: Opera :::::
meatSim posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 12:14 PM
Thanks Opera Guy, I never realized what a great job BH did on her face. Really considering picking this up just for that.
Blackhearted posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 5:59 PM
very cool -- thank you so much Hana. i learned a lot about cloth :)
for the cloth room savvy, youll notice that the nipples are a constrained group. this is the best way ive found to hold the cloth in place on the breasts and eliminate the 'breats bags' underneath them without having to bump up the elasticity and thus 'iron out' the wrinkles. the downside is in some extreme sims you may get some wrinkling around the nipples: this is easily fixed by using the morphing tool set to smooth (use a high number like 3.0 or 4.0).
btw - those of you using gamma correction are going to have to tweak the transparency settings of the chemise.
cheers,
-Gabriel
operaguy posted Sat, 21 July 2012 at 8:37 PM
yes, i had to change the transparancy setting.
Inspired_Art posted Mon, 23 July 2012 at 10:28 PM
Attached Link: Anastasia
Eddy
Eric98 posted Tue, 31 July 2012 at 11:43 PM
OK, I'll just whack myself across the back of the head later if I missed something simple, but wanted to get the Anastasia update. Purchased the original already in the Marketplace, and tried what was said about re-downloading/re-installing, but the website wouldn't allow this (something I've never had a problem with over on smithmicro or daz), and email to the contact there resulted in a 'huh?'. So, can anyone point out where this went wrong?
Blackhearted posted Wed, 01 August 2012 at 5:25 AM
heya,
the update is for The Girl Next Door 4: Athletic (vicky4).
GND: Anastasia is a completely different character, for Alyson 2. shell be getting an update too though very soon :)
Hana-Hanabi posted Thu, 02 August 2012 at 1:21 AM
Attached Link: Late night at 127.0.0.1
花 | 美 | 花美 | 花火
...It's a pun.
Blackhearted posted Fri, 10 August 2012 at 8:26 PM
took a bit longer than id anticipated to both match all of the GND4.2 morphs as well as add some new feature morphs.
anyone thats already purchased it can just re-download it and get all the new content for free.
have a great weekend folks,
cheers,
-Gabriel
Lyrra posted Fri, 10 August 2012 at 9:10 PM
Blackhearted posted Fri, 10 August 2012 at 9:28 PM
its the base GND4 head: i just added a couple of the stock V4 dials, namely LipsPartCenter, LipsPucker and EyePupilDialate (Daz's spelling error, not mine :)).
DCArt posted Fri, 10 August 2012 at 10:04 PM
operaguy posted Fri, 10 August 2012 at 10:25 PM
thanks Deecey
shante posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 1:17 PM
I tried re-downloading the bikini and I keep getting an error message:
You Have Exceed The Maximum Number of Downloads allowed for this item.
Never seen that before. What does it mean?
Inspired_Art posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 1:32 PM
Contact RMP supprt team and request a download reset.
Store@Renderosity.com
Eddy
LaurieA posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 3:00 PM
Yeah, I think they allow 3 or 4 times and then they make it a PITA...lol.
Laurie
shante posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 3:04 PM
Hi Laurie!
????What's a PITA????
I have only downloaded it once when I first bought the original. Never until now having gotten the update notice in the mail yesterday tried to download it again. That is why I found it strange.
I did email sales to see what the deal is though. Thanks Inspired_Art.
LaurieA posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 3:09 PM
PITA=Pain in the ass....lol.
Laurie
shante posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 3:42 PM
Quote - PITA=Pain in the ass....lol.
Laurie
Oh!?!?
Duh!!! LOL
All sites are becomming that it seems.
They keep changing things only to make them worse.
toastie posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 5:27 PM
Quote - They keep changing things only to make them worse.
If it ain't broke - fix it 'til it is!
shante posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 5:36 PM
Yeah....that seems to be the current philosophy in everything in our society no different on-line.
If you must update something (Like what DAZ has done for instance), please make sure it actually works before you make it ready for the consumer. My experience there really sucks of late and I was always ok with what DAZ did.
Blackhearted posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 6:04 PM
"If you must update something (Like what DAZ has done for instance), please make sure it actually works before you make it ready for the consumer. "
it has always been like that - three downloads and then you need to request a download reset.
i havent bought anything from Daz in eons but im pretty sure its like that there too.
shante posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 7:06 PM
OK......but it still is a fact I have only downloaded once when the first version of GND and her Bikini were first purchased. THis is an UPDATED version which means it should have already been RESET. And I have not yet been able to DL it. Not three times but barely twice...if we can count the original DL of the original older version of the product.
Quote - "If you must update something (Like what DAZ has done for instance), please make sure it actually works before you make it ready for the consumer. "
it has always been like that - three downloads and then you need to request a download reset.
i havent bought anything from Daz in eons but im pretty sure its like that there too.
Lyrra posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 8:22 PM
If you use a download resumer or speeder it may have made several attempts without you knowing it - thus using up your alottment. That is one of the reasons most sites discourage download utilities like that
Lyrra
shante posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 9:01 PM
But I don't.
Got the emailed update notice and came right to my account to download the update....clean and simple.
Quote - If you use a download resumer or speeder it may have made several attempts without you knowing it - thus using up your alottment. That is one of the reasons most sites discourage download utilities like that
Lyrra
LaurieA posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 9:19 PM
You let the store know you can't download?
Laurie
shante posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 10:00 PM
Yes.
I emailed sales today but not expecting a response until tpmorrow or tuesday.
Quote - You let the store know you can't download?
Laurie
LaurieA posted Sun, 12 August 2012 at 10:05 PM
Yeah, probably not ;). They'll take care of it tomorrow for ya tho.
Laurie
