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WIth those I could take over the world!

 

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Sam, are they actually up yet? I don't see them.

I will take the 7 million - you keep the Daleks.

What?

Oh.  I spent most of it already. >.>

Cool that you do this for the community. :)

I knew it. Sam is infact Davros.

Basicwiz - they are up now. 

Khai, I assure you I have the use of both arms and legs.  And eyes.  The Mother in law, however...

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Erm... 

I made a miscalculation.  There are actually 24,494,400 variations.  Over 24 million!

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Quote - There are actually 24,494,400 variations.  Over 24 million!

But can it make and serve a hot cup of tea? :biggrin:

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Bill

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With 24 million Daleks I could subjugate the whole of Fachwen. Ba ha ha ha!

But.. no variation for the plunger arm? 8(

 

(I kid!)

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Hey Garee - there's a claw version and a plunger version.  :)

If you've kept up to date with Doctor Who, you'll know the "plunger" is actually a tractomorphic sensory cluster which can operate as a suction device, multiple digits, a brain scanner and a powerful vice, capable of crushing a human skull.

And yes, it can also hold a tray of tea and biscuits.  Or cookies, depending on where you live.  :D 

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Yep, but typing plunger was quickerer. ;)

You are PoserDaveros though, the head of the poser daleks!

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - And yes, it can also hold a tray of tea and biscuits.  Or cookies, depending on where you live.  :D 

If biscuits are actually cookies, then what do you call actual biscuits?

 

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I believe the Brits call then "scones," at least that is what a British friend of mine refers to them as.  I will easily stand corrected on this, however.

I had biscuits in Georgia and they were scones :o), very nice though, the ones left over after breakfast were lush with butter and jam, didn't like grits though .........Steve

nope. scones are sweet, while biscuits are savory... I don't know of a direct UK version of US biscuits....

(I got to make a comparison a few years ago while visiting friends in georgia and the carolina's....call me strange.. I miss waffle house!)

Quote - I had biscuits in Georgia and they were scones :o), very nice though, the ones left over after breakfast were lush with butter and jam, didn't like grits though .........Steve

 

ok... so there's 2 sorts of biscuits LOL the ones I had were not scones at all....

I thought scones were more like muffins. 

 

~Shane

A plain scone can go either way, just add cheese or some fruit before you put them on the griddle, you can of course just sweeten them if you prefer. Mind you this may be a north-south English thing but up here a plain scone can go either way and is identical to the one i had in Georgia, which if it helps came out of a tin...Shane heres a pic of a scone....Steve

Quote - (I got to make a comparison a few years ago while visiting friends in georgia and the carolina's....call me strange.. I miss waffle house!)

Waffle House is awesome sauce. I go there just for their loaded hashbrowns - chili, jalepeno, tomato onion cheese and mushrooms. Here we have them across the street from each other in a lot of spots. It's a crap shoot whether you'll come away with food poisoning or not tho. lol. Hence the name "Awful Waffle". It's advised to pick one that doesn't make you sick and stick to it.

 

~Shane 

And some Biscuits :o)

Good on yer for the Daleks Sam-

Steveshanks! Where ya been?

I thought I remembered you had some freebies way back in the olden tymes (I.E. back in the late 90's) . I don't seen them-were they Pre-Renderosity?

> Quote - A plain scone can go either way, just add cheese or some fruit before you put them on the griddle, you can of course just sweeten them if you prefer. Mind you this may be a north-south English thing but up here a plain scone can go either way and is identical to the one i had in Georgia, which if it helps came out of a tin...Shane heres a pic of a scone....Steve

 

Ah, ok. 

See, this is more like what I always thought scones were:

See the muffin-y resemblance? 

Sorry to completely derail the thread and make everyone hungry. lol

 

~Shane

Nah, muffins are muffins.  A former girlfriend used to say "You can't beat a good muffin in the morning" but that's another story. :)

Actually, there are two types of muffin, just to confuse matters.  The ones most people know of now are the American ones but there's also the English muffin, which is somewhat like a crumpet, or pikelet, if you're a Lancastrian.

From my time in OK, your biscuits are a plain version of our scones.  Oddly enough, scones are sometimes called Drop scones and I've heard biscuits called Drop biscuits, too.

The ones in your pic, Existential, look very rough and ready, compared to most scones.  I bet if you tasted them, though, you'd find them similar to your biscuits, apart from the fruit. 

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And, oh yeah, you're all welcome to the Daleks.  :)  Hope you can find a good use for them, even if they don't taste like scones.  Or biscuits.

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I love english muffins. they're good with sliced turkey and melted cheddar. But then, everything is good with sliced turkey and melted cheddar.

Unless that's not really an english muffin. 

Sort of like french fries aren't really french. Or so I've heard.

 

~Shane

This conversation reminds me when "The Sound of Drums" aired and the Master, just before he unleashes the Toclafanes, asks the US President, "Just what ARE grits?!"

That spurred a rather fascinating thread at OutPost Gallifrey where Brits and yanks discussed regional foods and the confusion resulting from using the same words to describe very different edible items.  Rather like this thread.  Funny enough, a few of the UK based posters wanted to try grits (based upon the descriptions I and a few other Southerners provided) and wondered where they could purchase them in the United Kingdom.

Oh, and for the record, even though I've lived no further north than Atlanta and for the last 35 years I've lived just 15 miles north of the Georgia/Florida border (about as far South as one can be not considered a Floridian), I've never been crazy about grits.  Oh, I can eat them without puking or even grimacing; but I don't go out of my way to gobble them up.

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Bill

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Grits sounds kind of similar to Scots porridge?

Anyway... the food naming confusion exists even just within the UK...

Oatcakes in Scotland are a very different thing to what they are in Staffordshire.

Course, once Sam's 24 million Daleks get underway, none of this will matter...

Mechmaster asked when we get to see all the variations.  :)  Maybe not, huh?

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No, grits are made from grinding hominey - which is a bean kind'a thing, related to corn i think. Looks a lot like a chick pea - which is what hummus is made from - but doesn't taste the same. They're rather bland until you mix it with butter salt, pepper and usually ham or bacon and/or cheese. That's how they're usually served. 

I just recently learned that poridge is pretty much the same as oat meal. And I guess curds and whey would be the equivalent of cottage cheese.

And I don't even really know what the hell a dalek is. Looks a lot like things I've seen in various adult "novelty" shops tho. LOL. (somehow I'm guessing its not)

 

~Shane

A Dalek is - strictly speaking - the mutated creature inside an armoured shell, with the shell acting as an environment suit and a one man (creature) assault vehicle, which is also capable of space travel, conventional atmospheric flight, ground effect hovering and levitation.

The origins of the mutations were a race of humanoid people known as Kaleds, who, due to generations of war, which led to radiation poisoning.  Further intervention by the Kaled's chief scientist, Davros, stabilized the mutations and endowed them with tremendous intellect and xenophobic ferocity.  The metal shells (actually a substance known as Dalekenium, a form of molecular bonded polycarbide) are known as Travel Machines but in general, the machine and the creature inside are known as Daleks with most people making no distinction between the two.

Daleks are not, however, robots. 

Just think of it as a xenophobic, homicidal mutant squid in a tin can and you get the idea. 

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Awesome.

How do they breed? Or do they just live forever?

 

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Quote - Awesome.

How do they breed? Or do they just live forever?

~Shane

They do reproduce... and the method can vary. But its always, as far as I know, done artificially... although there are some Doctor Who episodes, as far as I recall, e.g. the missing episodes of "Power of the Daleks"(from what I've read of that) where the exact means of reproduction is apparently left open to the imagination. So maybe the Kaled mutants are indeed getting jiggy with it outside of their Dalekenium shells, on occassion.

Alternately, in "Revelation of the Daleks", Davros is camped out in hiding, in the Tranquil Repose funeral home, on planet Necros, and, it is revealed, is mutating human brains into Kaled-like organisms, to control a batch of Dalek vehicles.

Of course he is subsequently arrested by the "real" Daleks and taken off to stand trial for crimes against Dalek purity, etc.

Generally, the mutants are artificially grown clones taken from "Pure" Kaled DNA.  Sometimes they're spliced with genetic material from other races or, as monkeycloud mentioned, grown from tampered human DNA.  The Emperor who survived the Time War recreated a Dalek army by using human DNA which he "enhanced" to become (his words) "Pure and Blessed Dalek".  But then he was insane.  Even by Dalek standards, he was insane.

There were other Time War survivors; four Daleks known as the Cult of Skaro.  They were a sort of elite team, responsible for initiating original ideas (usually strongly discouraged) and radical ways to improve the race.  The four of them were most likely "pure" but Sec, their nominal leader, attempted to create a Human-Dalek hybrid with his own DNA.  The resulting humanoid creature (still with Sec's consciousness) was killed by the other members of the cult for being impure.  The remaining three Daleks battled with the Doctor and died, with the exception of Caan, who time jumped (Emergency Temporal Shift) away.

Caan reappeared later as an insane prophet with the ability to see all of time.  He engineered the destruction of the Daleks and their creator, Davros, because he realized they were an evil blight on the universe.  Things are never what they seem, however, and the Daleks reappeared later in a new form.  There's also a chance Caan and Davros survived, too. 

I know far too much about this subject, don't I?  :) 

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I've stated this elsewhere and I'll do so here as well...

Dalek Caan would make for a very interesting TARDIS companion.  I can imagine the the lil' nutter trundled into a corner somewhere, gibbering and giggling, waxing poetic upon topics he might overhear, generally serving as a minor distraction when things are "qiet".  Occasionally, however, he'll have flashes of lucidity, and having experienced the whole of space and time, he might warn the Doctor and/or his companions about some threat.  But to their frustration, his warnings are so laced in metaphor and riddles, they could mean anything.  More often, he'd be a source of comedic releaf.

I can see him getting the "bright" idea he can leave the TARDIS, joining the Doctor and companions by covering his travel machine in sticky sheets of psychic paper, thinking he can fool the "locals" into believing he's a normal person.  Of course the Doctor forbids Caan and he exits the capsule.  Later, to the Doctor's horror, he sees Caan has left the TARDIS and is trundling the streets, the psychic paper seemingly working.  That is, until the sheets are blown or washed from his casing and panic ensures!  Nick Briggs could have a field day with such a scene!

Alas, there are likely all sorts of legal and property rights issues (mainly royalties) that would negate such an arrangement.  But it's fun to imagine!

Sincerely,

Bill

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It's a good idea, Bill but I see it somewhat differently... 

Caan would be a great companion but I see him more of an occasional figure who crops up from time to time, intending to help the Doctor but usually making things worse.  Or simply following his own agenda, which may or may not always coincide with the Doctor's.

I also wish the BBC would bite the bullet and do a Dalek only series.  I'm sure Mechmaster would be happy to oblige with the story line.  :) 

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the problem with that Sam is the Nation Estate. the BBC don't own the Daleks... they use 'em on Licence... getting them into the new series met with problems from the Estate...

You never know though... the Nation Estate may just be quite into the idea of a Dalek only series.

In any case, clearly things were ironed out for the 2005 onwards NSDW... so I'd be hopeful, on that front, I reckon.

I think the issue would be down, more, to the BBC controllers and of course the likely ratings that a Dalek spin off might attract...

Khai, you're correct on that score but keep in mind Nation had tried several times to get the Beeb to make a Dalek show.

I think the problems with the comeback series was down to money, as much as anything else.  I guess Nation's estate got fair recompense in the end. 

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I will download it soon and cleanse the planet! "EXTERMINATE!"

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giggedy, dalek reproduction!

anyway i'd trade 7 million daleks for a few dozen fembots : ). 

and, oddly enough, i have no violent missions in store for them

go that way really fast.
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Erm, it's been brought to my attention there's an error in one of the Daleks which prevents it working properly in DAZ Studio.  The error is simple to fix - and in fact, I already have fixed it - and the new version will be uploaded ASAP.

Sorry bout that. 

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Corrected version now uploaded.

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Many thanks Paul... was this a Daz Studio only fix, or is it worth installing the update to my Poser runtime too, for any reason?

Love these new Daleks... I'm now figuring out how to accommodate as many as possible into my renders.

An image with the Special Weapons Dalek in it, that's taken me about two weeks worth of Poser time to make, will hopefully be done rendering later tonight...

Cheers

The corrected version is for DAZ Studio but it wouldn't hurt tio install it in Poser, since it's an error in the Cr2.

It doesn't seem to affect Poser as far as I can tell but you never know. 

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Cool - many thanks... I will update then I reckon, before I start adding them en masse to a scene

I can't wait to see it. :)

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Just posted part 1... which features three Special Weapons Daleks...

...part 2 is going to be where it really kicks off though.

Click image below to view bigger in gallery, and then much bigger from link there... I penned a wee story as an added bonus

Hell's effing bells!  That's nowt short of superb.

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Thanks a lot Paul

I really enjoyed making this one... and I've a feeling I'm going to enjoy doing the follow up even more... with the vast array of Daleks I've now got to choose from :biggrin:

I meant to put in the comments...

The dog's expression, facing off with K-9, is first class. 

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He he... thanks... I had a live model for that. My dog, whenever anything moves outside the house

Another leaflet poster almost lost a finger or two earlier this evening. But the postman now just gets a wagging tail... due to the biscuits in his pocket.

new... trailer.... DALEKS.... mind... blowing..... DINOSAURS..... help..... ANGELS......... DALEKS!!!!

Whoah! Awesome :biggrin:

Ain't seen it yet. :(

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Sam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7YGoVyRSik&feature=player_embedded#t=0s

Youtube (BBC America) upload is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7YGoVyRSik

 EDIT: He he... crosspost...

Thanks, Chaps!  I caught it at DWO.  

Turns out Claire may have recorded it along with the Olympics, too.  :) 

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would that be a Metric or Imperial shitload of Daleks?

I think it's a good old fashioned Imperial one.

Or even two. 

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Quote - Daleks are not, however, robots.

Something Terry Nation apparently kept forgetting, as time went by....  :unsure:

Loving the Daleks, ST.  :woot:  I still want to award you some special title for your accomplishments in the area of Dalek creation.

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Well, Cage, you could argue it was Douglas Adams who made the mistake of calling 'em robots in Destiny.  I believe Mr Nation was none too pleased with Adams' script anyhow, since he thought it treated the story with too much levity.  

As for me, plain old Sam will do.  :) 

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That would make sense, if Adams made the error.  From what I've read, Nation had a tendency to deliver... minimal scripts which had to be extensively developed by the current script editor.  Those looking for an in-continuity explanation seem to twist themselves around a bit over the issue.  I think the favored explanation is that Daleks in that era had become reliant on computers for their planning and strategies, making them "like robots" in their inability to think illogically.  (Which seems odd, as their plans are rarely very logical....)

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The "fallacy" of pursuing an insane idea to its logical conclusion is fairly central to the core theme the Daleks represent, I think.

One of the things I don't like - and have never liked - about Doctor Who is the tendency to write illogical plot devices which then set up a last minute escape.  

I guess the Deus Ex Machina is more or less part of the show, what with the TARDIS but I would rather the writers not use lazy plots to wrap things up.  Same as I don't like exposition (cop shows and Star Trek are notorious for that) or the inevitable bad guy's monologue, which is always just long enough for the hero to escape.

And, oh yeah, technobabble.  God only knows how much I dislike that.

As for the Daleks, I'm an old school purist.  It took me a long, long time to accept Davros as part of the continuity; I'm a Yarveling and Zolfian guy.  It took even longer to accept the slats and mesh on the shoulders.  To this day I still prefer the look of the Mk 1 over the later versions.  Except the 2005/NSD/Time War/RTD/Whatever we're calling it this week, which is, IMO, the best looking Dalek ever. 

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I miss the delightful design variations with the RTD-era Daleks, but I agree that they're a step above most others.  :laugh:  But I still haven't accepted Davros.  :lol:  Of course, I came to it late, not seeing any of the material until DVDs.  Watching them all together as complete stories, the repeated use of Davros really seems both unnecessary and harmful to the Daleks themselves.

But danged if I remember Yarveling and Zolfian...? 

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They came from the TV21 comics of the 1960s.  MechMaster pays tribute to them in his Cimema4D modeled and rendered online comic "Second Empire".  In the 60s comics, the Daleks were a shortbnlue skinned humanoid race before the neutron bomb exploded that destroyed them.

Here's sometime I recently posted upon a DW sub-forum at the TrekBBS...

It was many years after I saw various other Dalek serials (my first being "Genesis..." since my PBS station started with Tom Baker), but after finally seeing the very first Dalek serial ("The Dead Planet"), I must admit I found that interpretation the most interesting. Remember, this was before they were reworked as "Robo-Nazis from Outer Space" (as presented in their second story, "The Dalek Invasion of Earth") or the purposely gene spliced mutant soldiers of "Genesis..." As introduced, the Daleks were pitiful, "tragic" figures.

For a moment, let's ignore the later narratives that basically rewrote Dalek history. Let's just focus upon the information revealed in episodes 5 through 11 of the original series. The Thals admitted their ancestors instigated hostilities against the (at that time) still humanoid Dals. We don't know all the details, but we do know that in desperation, the Dals, then a society of scientists and philosophers, detonated a neutron bomb. This suggests the ware was likely very short compared the the generations long conflict described in "Genesis..." The surviving Dals "bunkered" within their (most likely destroyed) city. Then began the progression of genetic mutation, each successive generation suffering worse symptoms. And with each new generation, they grew ever more fearful that some Thals may have survived and might one day return to attack them again. This understandable concern grew into paranoia and eventully full fledged xenophobia.

Remember the escape from the cell using mud to blind the Dalek and the nonconductive cape to short its power from the floor? That Dalek didn't exist on hate alone. It was scared, terrified. It equated the TARDIS group with the Thals its race had grown to fear. One could hear the panic in its voice. It saw the humans as "monsters" ready to finish the goal the ancient Thals had started.

At the story's conclusion, when the power grid that charged the Daleks' casing was disrupted, one last surviving Dalek contemplated this was extinctive of its race and (unlike the Daleks that would come later) begged the Doctor to save them. When the Doctor admitted he did not have the skills to do so and also hinted he wouldn't bother even if he had the ability, the Dalek cried out in anguish, practically wept as the power in its casing finally drained.

As I stated above, the Daleks here were "tragic" characters, worthy of pity. Why? well, unlike Davros' creations that were effectively "programmed" to hate and conquer, these Daleks had a choice. They could have elected not to trigger that neutron bomb, but they would not have had a reason if the Thals had not attacked. But gievn the device was exploded, the Dals could have could have elected to keep their fears in check. Though difficult, they could have chosen not to "drown" themselves in a destructive "pool" of blind, unreasonable xenophobia. They could have said, "No, we will NOT repeat the mistakes of our ancestors. Though our bodies are twisted, we will not let our spirits match those deformities. We will not become the very people who started this, or worse." But they didn't, and that collective choice sealed their fate.

Sincerely,

Bill

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