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Pretty much what the thread says,lo

If you want a better unpainted look to your transmapped hair try the shader its downloadable from my website, link supplied.

Please read the instructions, and feel free to ask questions. also feel free to show your renders and tests in this thread too as im interested to see what you all do with this.

Lastly remember.... ONLY use hair that has the hair strands on the transparency map going from top to bottom (except the skullcap, that can be all over the show)Egypt hair for that reason does NOT work so dont bother trying.

This has been tested from poser 7 right up through all versions to poser 2012. seriously ive had this since poser7 so i know it works...lol... sorry for the delay..lol

anyway enjoy, play and show off....

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This picture is just standard transmapped hair with the typical painted hair that comes with all hair products

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And this is the hair shader at work

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oh wanna try something....

place one light in the room an do a series of renders with the light in different positions, and notice that the hair doesnt change much with the normal hair.

Now try the same with the new shader... No dark highlights in lit areas..... nice

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Now this looks very interesting ... :-)

Hopefully I'll be able to try this out tomorrow!

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Thanx snarlygribbly... more interesting is the Version 6 of this shader which is making the one available look poo.... currently im testing V6 with scatter, could be a while to render,lol. oh and scatter isnt the thing that makes v6 look fantastic its another couple of nodes.... cant wait to see what Bagginsbill makes of this, as im no math man, what i see i make with a small wee bit of math and logic thrown in

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I can't wait to see examples of the scatter version! :-)

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Thanks. Can't wait to try it out.

only problem im getting with scatter is it turns the hair colour a shade of pink which is hard to get rid of... im still plugging away, but soon im resting

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Downloaded it and checking it out now.

Thanks.

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Thank you for this, will follow closely.

These shaders could use Parmatic to change the HSV settings to the desired hair color values. Now, if we can get it into BB's VSS....

Thanks for posting this.

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Thank you, shedofjoy. And for the Mud shader as well.

that is ok primorge, i will have to do an update/reworking of the mud shader as it doesnt render as well in p2012.

had some success with the new v6 hair shader but still needs tweaking,will post images when im back at the conputer.

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Looking forward to giving this a go. Thanks a lot!

Okay SoJ, managed to create a VSSHair Prop equipped with Parmatic nodes for HSV. Now all I have to do after applying the nodes is dial up the Hue, Saturation, and Value parameters for the HSV node in Parameters/Properties panel and reload the textures. Instant colors, sweet!!! I will need to check other hair styles and tweak VSS settings as needed.

im interested to see what you have done hborre.

So far there doesnt seam to be that much intere in the shader, i wonder if thats a good or bad sign?

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Quote - So far there doesnt seam to be that much intere in the shader, i wonder if thats a good or bad sign?

I wouldn't worry about it. Most of my projects have started out the same way: I release something and then wonder why no-one else seems as excited about it as me :-) Some projects such as the Snow Machine and Pose2Lux took weeks before anyone even mentioned them in a forum, and the now popular SceneFixer took months before I saw it referred to by someone else!

I guess most people happily download it, use it, like it (hopefully!) and keep on using it but never post their thoughts on it. That's quite normal and something you just have to get used to.

As a creator, it gets interesting when avid forumites get interested in your idea - then there'll be a flurry of posts and discussions, which is fun. The problem is that such people are often exploring a gadzillion new things that they've found in forums and it takes some time to for them to get around to yours. But they will, and suddenly interest will bloom and grow rapidly. Trust me :-)

The other thing is that you need a 1-click solution. That makes a big difference. If they had a pose file they could click on to apply the hair shaders to all the right zones while keeping the tranparency maps intact, well ... you'd find its use spreading much more rapidly. The little bit of extra work invlolved in doing it manually won't necessarily put people off, but it might put it further down their list of 'things to try'. They'll get there in the end though.

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thankyou snarly. i will wait and watch. i would have done the shader for all the zones but this shader is for any transmapped hair and the creators of hair name their materials what they want, the only way i can see to make the shader more user friendly is via a python script, and thats way out of my league,perhaps someone might do that?, and add the correct tranmaps in the shader at the same time

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Quote - thankyou snarly. i will wait and watch. i would have done the shader for all the zones but this shader is for any transmapped hair and the creators of hair name their materials what they want, the only way i can see to make the shader more user friendly is via a python script, and thats way out of my league,perhaps someone might do that?, and add the correct tranmaps in the shader at the same time

I'll do it for you if you want, once you have a definitive version of the hair shader. You say (earlier in the thread) that the new v6 makes the v5 one look like 'poo' so I'd prefer to put my efforts into the better one :-)

The Python script could also have:

An option to let the use specify whether the UV mapping is vertical or horizontal (and modify the shader accordingly)
A list of preset HSV values to select from
A list of material zones so that the user can select the skull cap material

Let me know if you're interested?

This shader could also be made into a cool plugin for EZSkin+, planned for release this Autumn :-D

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thats a definate yes snarly,and a massive thankyou,im just ironing out a couple of kinks in version 6,sofar looks amazing but has a minor issue with the light shining from behind,think i have it sorted though.

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Cool - thanks for this!

For the mud shader too... I'll try that out on the jeep I've been trying to re-texture methinks

Will definitely give this a go next time I'm rendering something with hair!

The python script idea sounds good too!

Until Snarly and SoJ hash out a script to make it easy to apply the hair shader to all material zone groups correctly, this is my current solution. This is entirely for those individuals familiar with VSS; tryiing to explain the entire procedure would be the subject of another thread.

I used Bagginsbills VSSHairProp found here:

https://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/file-cabinet

It is simpler to work with than VSSPR3 or PR4. After loading the Prop into the scene, I created 2 new material zones, 1 hair and 1 scalp. In each, I loaded Shedsofjoy's corresponding shaders.

The following illustrations show the changes I made to simplify the color change process and load the shaders across all zones with one button press.

Working within VSSProp, I inserted these 3 Parmatic nodes to control Hue, Saturation, and Value on the HSV node through the Parameters/Properties panel.

Note all HSV values are set to 1, as mentioned PM nodes now control color.

Next, the original Transparency_Map node is replaced with VSS's Transparency Map node, it is really a renaming of the node so VSS correctly loads the actual transparency images from the transhair figures.

Next, for the scalp, I change the original renamed image node for the one in the illustration, and also connect it to the PoserSurface. Again, this is to guarantee that VSS syncronization identifies all maps correctly.

Still in VSS, I open the add Shader Rules zone and create new shader rules to target specific hair groups. This may need to be tweaked to correspond with the particular hair style in use. But those familiar with VSS should be able to figure that out.

Once VSSProp is synchronized, the Parmatic dials will need to be loaded into the hair's Parameter/Properties panel. On the VSS Python Script Panel there is a Parmatic Button. Clicking that, the script will take you into a menu of 3 other buttons. Click the Parmatic Updater.

And, with the hair selected, the parmatic dials for HSV will appear. Change each parameter according to ShedofJoy's color listing, and reload the textures. The new colors will appear in the preview window. There are many steps I left out but, as I stated, those familiar with VSS should be able to set this up without any problems.

looks good hborre, what is vss as im still one of those who are not in the know? is it a pre scatter thing?

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Versatile Shader System (VSS) by Bagginsbill. It has been around for several years, and it was developed to easily apply shaders across several similar material zones with the push of a button. The PR series already contains the classic BB skin shader template so many individuals contain. Easily customizable, you can change the shaders of any figure or prop in an instance as opposed to individually changing each material zone manually. This is also the basis of Snarly's EZSkin for figures and hair only conveniently compacted into a script for easy deployment.

most intresting will have a go with it one of the things discussed at another site

was with snarlys ezskin etc we can get realistic skin but alot of the hair still looks

fake hope this will help with that :) keep up the great work

The anisotropic node won't quite get what we need, although it's better than using specular or even blinn.

As with the latest skin, what you really need is an anisotropic reflect node, and not one for children, but one that let's me say what angles I want to send out rays.

SoJ - your shader is nice work - the hair pattern is pretty good, although I think you did more work than needed. A single node blended with some white is all I see really needed.

The tricky part is the reflection/specularity.

There was a new hair node briefly introduced into P9/PP2012 but didn't work right and got pulled. I had hoped to see it restored in SR3, but alas it has not.

SoJ - there is a mistake in your shader. You have the two specular nodes, which produce a color, going into math nodes, making them pure gray-scale. You should be adding them with Color_Math.

Also, as can be seen in my VSS hair shader published a while ago (way ago) you need to do something about the anisotropic node that goes berzerk at certain shallow angles. I was using an edge blend to tone it down. I never had the patience to really work out what exactly is needed.

Also - this is again a shader where linear workflow will trump non-linear. If you try the same shader in PP2012 with render GC, it will come out COMPLETELY different. I suggest two different shaders or one with auto-GC built in.

Without linear workflow, this shader will never be able to look real in all lighting regimes. Certain situations will work, and in others you'll think it needs adjusting.

A shader that is built for realism produces the right response in all lighting regimes.

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Despite having too much work today, you got me to revisit my hair shader.

I switched to procedural color instead of texture color, and I added reflections, and tweaked a double anisotropic specular.

I'm pretty pleased with this, but for two things:

It's grainy
I still have berzerk specular at the top - observe the orange hot spots.

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This looks really promising! I'll give it a try.

i will check the math grey set up tomorow and thankyou BB, excuse the question but what is a linear workflow in the shader setup? as i would rather try and follow a route that allows more consistant results.

its funny you mention edge blend as this has already been implemented into my next version of the shader,looks like i might atleast be going in the right direction(roughly,lol).

im interested in your workings on hair BB, cant say ive seen any orange spots appear in any tests, but thats not to say im doing anything right, lol.

has given me more to think on so night all, i need sleep and a dash of work before i work on this again.

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Quote - Despite having too much work today, you got me to revisit my hair shader.

I switched to procedural color instead of texture color, and I added reflections, and tweaked a double anisotropic specular.

I'm pretty pleased with this, but for two things:

It's grainy

I still have berzerk specular at the top - observe the orange hot spots.

That's really excellent... I'd buy that in a minute...

I increased the reflection quality a couple hours ago and it's still not done, nor is it swapping.

I don't know if people will have the patience to deal with a shader like this.

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Probably not, rendering hair can be bad enough even without reflections. Your set up seems to get pretty fast results IMO too.

Looks nice though. Maybe some people who are used to renders taking overnight or longer might be interested in it. Of course if you get something wrong in the scene...

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have you also tried different hair? as i found transmapped hair does different things in the shader which are unexpected in the shader?

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Most hair in the marketplace AFAIK is of the transmapped variety.

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sorry worded that wrong, have you tried different transmapped hair?

I did a quick test this morning with the two math nodes replaced with colour math, (as per BB's comment)this throws up colour problems, with just one white light and nothing else im getting blue and green highlights, to this end im thinking of using the specular nodes to steer a colour or maybe a reflect, i will be doing tests of this later, have to find out the reflective index of hair first

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Show what you did there. If the color math parameters are all white or grays, you can't be getting blue.

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What do you mean by the reflective index of hair? It's not that simple, you know. Hair has surface structure that, like a Fresnel lens (microgrooves), means you can't deal with it as a simple glossy surface.

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Read this.

http://developer.amd.com/media/gpu_assets/Scheuermann_HairSketchSlides.pdf

In that, page 13, is an interesting visual comparison.

Look at the (shitty) Kajiya-Kay shader results. That is naive.

The Marschner et al shader is the best - it is what was being added to Poser but got aborted.

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http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~srm/publications/SG03-hair-abstract.html

leading to:

http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/hair/hair-sg03final.pdf

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but why are there blues? i know its not a glossy surface, just trying to think of ways around it, lol

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You can't ask me and not show. I can tell you why when I see what you did.

There are an infinite number of ways to make any color by accident. I can't list them all.

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sorry posted during your posts,lol, will read all the links later on have to go out. do you know why the shader was aborted?

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im loving this, feels like im learning, give me all the info you can

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Quote - sorry posted during your posts,lol, will read all the links later on have to go out. do you know why the shader was aborted?

Because it didn't render correctly. I don't know why. It was rendering surfaces without any smooth interpolation of normals, so it looked faceted.

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I found the demo render showing the problem with the new hair node.

Click for full size.

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Poser has trouble dealing with this kind of material. I always find reasons to not publish a realism shader. In many situations, a clever hack looks better.

Example - you'd think a little bump would help.

Look at this hair ball. Observe the artifacts near the top.

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Now with no bump at all.

This is why I avoid really fine bump and use direct manipulation of the color or reflectivity for this kind of thing.

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Now look at the intensity of the anisotropic specular highlight. Observe how it becomes super hot at the top.

That's not how hair works. That's just how the anisotropic node works. It's wrong. It's one of those "biased" things that people were OK with in 2001.

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And it has nothing to do with the UV map. It is just broken.

Here I rotated the hair ball - that highlight has not moved one pixel. It's wrong.

These are things you have to deal with if you're going to try to supply a generic shader.

I do not have solutions. I have tactics I use, but each tactic is specific to:

the prop I'm using
what color I want it

* what the lighting is

I can't find a way to generalize the hackery.

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to stop the bump issue near the top why not run it through an edge blend value 1 set to white and the bump plugged into value 2 also white and a numerical value of 1. ok this doesnt fix the bump issue but it removes it from the edges where they cause issues

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ok that doesnt adress the whole specular issue.i was wondering if there is a way to trick say the blinn node etc to maybe come up with a better shine? just throwing about ideas

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My dumb question of the day: can't you either set the reflection not to go over a certain number (ie max it so it doesn't get hot) or maybe use a bias/gain node (can never remember which one does what) to serve as sort of an ad hoc "map" and use that map to subtract out or limit the extra light?

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Quote - My dumb question of the day: can't you either set the reflection not to go over a certain number (ie max it so it doesn't get hot) or maybe use a bias/gain node (can never remember which one does what) to serve as sort of an ad hoc "map" and use that map to subtract out or limit the extra light?

I didn't show all the situations. That was one that was easy to see. There are "hotspots" that should not exist that also are not super bright, either.

As soon as you put enough limits to suppress most of the hot spots, you've pretty well lost the realism of the cases where it is supposed to be bright.

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Quote - ok that doesnt adress the whole specular issue.i was wondering if there is a way to trick say the blinn node etc to maybe come up with a better shine? just throwing about ideas

In general? No.

As soon as there are two or more light sources, you can't do any sort of tricks because you don't know anything in the nodes about where those are, where the camera is, etc. This is basic shader 101 stuff that has to be built into Poser nodes because Poser doesn't let me write any shader algorithms. It only lets me snap together the ones it offers.

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Quote - I didn't show all the situations. That was one that was easy to see. There are "hotspots" that should not exist that also are not super bright, either.

As soon as you put enough limits to suppress most of the hot spots, you've pretty well lost the realism of the cases where it is supposed to be bright.

I see. So with the anitoscopic node, you are kind of up the creek either way. It's a shame SM dropped the other model, it was an interesting read and it looked better than the model they compared it too.

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i know that when things are not ready for release with poser sometimes they leave it in but hidden away,could this also be the case with the hair shader they apparently tried? could it be somewhere under the poser hood?

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and is this reality 3 going to offer more realistic hair in lux?

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> Quote - i know that when things are not ready for release with poser sometimes they leave it in but hidden away,could this also be the case with the hair shader they apparently tried? could it be somewhere under the poser hood?

Oh it's still there. You can easily make one appear using Python - it is kNodeTypeCodePOLYGONHAIR.

But it isn't even close to useful.

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hmmm i see that in somecases somethings are better hidden away,but you can see where they are going.

it looks as if with this current version of poser we will have to do with a looks good(like the current transmap hair) but atleast gives a better reaction to light.

anyways im off out for dinner then the expendables 2.

will try more hair works tomorow, and thanx BB as always an inspiration

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Is this a problem with the scatter node???? i have only one light in this scene and idl is on.

if so is there a way to reduce/remove it?

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Ohhh lol to those not knowing what they are looking at in the above pic its the horrible blue colour on th back edges of the hair that are the trouble, i thought at first it was one or both of the specular nodes that i have used but its not them.... removed and still getting blue

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Try putting each hair material zone in a different scatter group ...

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im not sure by what you mean by that snarly?

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Use a different scatter group for each material zone ... see pic

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ahh i will give that a go thankyou snarly, probably would have found that if i was near my computer,lol

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For Poser10-I really hope they fix the Anistropic node!

and have a hair node

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Thankyou Snarly it looks like it is the scatter node up to no good, by changing the group numbers in the different materials has reduced the blue significantly as seen in the pic (click to enlarge as always). The group addition is similar in working it seams as the toon id.. im also at a loss to which material to set the scatter node to, as hair is not one of them, and none seam close,lol.. sofar im sticking with skin1...

As a matter of interest snarly, in the python script is it possible for it to apply the shader to different material zones and change the scatter_group number in each? if not i think i may have to drop scatter.. im hoping this is possible as scatter looks better than without..

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Set the scatter node to Marble, as this one is not tinted.

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cheers vince, just giving that a go now.

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Right this is the first in four pics, the last being a close up (Click image to enlarge).

This is version 6, i have done a little hammering of the anisotropic node to make it play ball,namely that super bright tail it has got. im still tinkering with the shader, hopefully someone might like the results sofar.... of and lastly before i forget, someone,i forget who commented on the shader in the freebie section here and said that it looks good as anime hair if you leave the transparency map out, i havent tried this myself yet... i will later

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as you can see the light in the first pic is by the side of the head and in this its infront

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this one the light is behind

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And a close up with the light on the side again.

I have got a GC node attached to this and currently have no idea how to make it into an auto GC as BB suggested, maybe oneday,lol

Click to see the detail.

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It does look like it is coming along, however closeups are not very forgiving towards strand resolution. For farther shots, it looks great.

Quote - As a matter of interest snarly, in the python script is it possible for it to apply the shader to different material zones and change the scatter_group number in each?

Yes, that would be straightfoward - I already do that for the hair shader in EZSkin

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Quote - And a close up with the light on the side again.

I have got a GC node attached to this and currently have no idea how to make it into an auto GC as BB suggested, maybe oneday,lol

Click to see the detail.

The GC node might not be much use. It is only available in Poser Pro so Poser 9 users won't get the benefit of it, and Poser Pro users will most likely be using render GC so won't want the node there.

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ahh i will replace that node with my other working arangement.

i thought the strand resolution looks good,i assume you clicked on the image? im interested to know how much strand resolution you need?.... oh and some of the edge hairs are a downside to certain modeling techniques, different hairs look better or worse depending on the hair structure or how it was made

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For myself the strands look very good and would do well in portrait renders. Someone else, though, may want finer detail for extreme closeups in full, studio lighting. Just my 2 cents.

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