Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Natural Gravity Morphs for Victoria 4

Bendinggrass opened this issue on Sep 07, 2012 · 15 posts


Bendinggrass posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 11:37 AM

I am looking at these add on items at DAZ, the ones made by Posermatic. I see they can be used in Poser as well.

I am surprised that a different add on is required for each character, such as Girl 4.

I have also seen NGM here at Renderosity, though I cannot find them here now.

What are the differences/advantages between those at DAZ and those available here?

Thanks.


hborre posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 11:42 AM

Same vendor.  I don't believe there is a product difference between the 2 sites.  The Renderosity version are no longer available for purchase.


Bendinggrass posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 11:43 AM

Thanks, hborre.


3doutlaw posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 11:47 AM

These would require then something like Morphing Clothes for any conforming clothes, right? (or morph tool, or some other way to make them fit)


Winterclaw posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 11:49 AM

Quote - I am surprised that a different add on is required for each character, such as Girl 4.

 

Different body types.  G4 is sufficiently different than the base v4 that a morph set designed for v4 might not look right on her.

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Winterclaw posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 11:53 AM

Quote - These would require then something like Morphing Clothes for any conforming clothes, right? (or morph tool, or some other way to make them fit)

 

Yes and perhaps a modeller.  The A one has an area of skin fold between the breasts that morphing clothes will pick up directly.  It would have to be accounted for on clothing.  Also MC tends to make breast morphs on clothes take on a spandex nature based on how it works.  If you want realism, you'd have to tweak the morphs yourself.  Your only other option would be to use magnets.  I think there's a set over at daz just for the base NGMs but I don't have those. 

 

Now dynamic clothing won't require MC or magents, but that's the only exception I can think of.

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hborre posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 11:55 AM

@ 3doutlaw: yes, Morphing Clothes or Wardrobe Wizard would be needed to introduce those morphs into clothing.


cspear posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 12:08 PM

Morphing Clothes transfers NGM morphs to clothing with no issues, in my experience. Just make sure you spin the NGM dials in the Body rather than the chest for best results.


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3doutlaw posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 12:22 PM

Yea, thats what I thought.  I figured I would just confirm, and make a note of it, cause although they are on sale, unless your doing nudes, there is an additional "unseen" cost of making clothes (non-dynamic) work with them.

...and MC or WW rarely go on sale, I believe...


hborre posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 12:52 PM

WW is already built into Poser.  All you need are the necessary modules for each figure model you own.


Winterclaw posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 12:53 PM

MC is good to have anyways, especially early on, a lot of morphs weren't included in clothing.  Even today unpopular ones are ignored.

Daz kinda got around that hidden cost with DS4 and gene, but opened up a new can of worms in the process.

WARK!

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(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)


3doutlaw posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 1:00 PM

Quote - WW is already built into Poser.  All you need are the necessary modules for each figure model you own.

Acknowledged, correction:  "...and MC or WW Modules rarely go on sale, I believe..."


hborre posted Fri, 07 September 2012 at 1:07 PM

True.


Lyrra posted Sat, 08 September 2012 at 12:42 AM

or you could use magnets made to shape the clothing over the NGM morphs . There are several sets, also for sale at DAZ  (by me actually cough)

The NGM set was moved to DAZ from here, and as I recall some slight adjustments made. I worked with the set sold at DAZ

And yes, the various differrent version of the NGM morphs are made specifically for certain body shapes. You can indeed use them on any v4 derivitive, but since for example Girl4 is very busty the morphs will look very differrent than they would on the smaller chested Sylph

The disadvantage of the auto morph transfer programs is that they often end up vacufitted to the cleavage, which may or may nto be a desired effect.

 

Lyrra



Winterclaw posted Sat, 08 September 2012 at 9:27 AM

In case anyone's interested, they are on sale over at daz today.

WARK!

Thus Spoketh Winterclaw: a blog about a Winterclaw who speaks from time to time.

 

(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)