Following on from MysticEagle's thread about nudity... 

Surely someone else must have seen the recent preponderance (or is it protruberance?) of Poser product adverts featuring females with enormous norks.  A flippin' ninja, of all things, with chuffin' airbags.  I'm not saying anything about the quality of the model(s) or owt derogatory about anything really.  This is merely an observation regarding the increasing trend to increasing boobies.

Yes, we've always had a number of characters with large (or very large) funbags but lately there seems to be an overwhelming number of 'em, even in ads for products which seemingly have nowt do do with mammaries. 

Even a new figure at CP has chesticles of enormous magnitude, and you can bet your bottom dollar that the majority of female Poser stuff features a model with gigantic top bollocks.

Please don't misunderstand me; I like boobies.  All sizes, too, unless they're ludicrously big - as in the Porn "actress" Letha Weapons - but this playing to the lowest common denomitator is getting real old real fast.   

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Ach, Sam.

I have been complaining about this for years.
No body cares about shape. All they have to be is Big, Bigger and Biggest.

Its' like Poly count.
Nobody cares about the shape of a figure, as long as there a lots poly's.

From the first moments I have been Posering, I have been reducing BALLOONS into breasts.
In volume and shape.

I gave up on complaining.. No body is listening.

BOOBS sell.
Polycount sells.

$$$$ are all that matter.

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The boob-centric phenomena is also evident in the world of collector dolls:

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/konlin/e/9867705986090d8912c38b503cd04641

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Are Norks anything like Fantastic Wub-Wubs?

 

BTW, if you like a female with some Gainax Jigglelies, now would be a great time to  visit my lackluster gallery!

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Norks are mystical twin orb headed monsters that live in the far away land of Wunderbarra.

Legend has it that the God Mammary cut off all means of support to them after they performed the now infamous Puppies with Pink noses trick at the inagaural Cleavage Games in Brest in 6BC.

They were sent to Earth to taunt men for eternity.

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Sam, that was Nine terms for breasts and no passes. Thank you, next contestant please.

Hehe.  I thought it was only 7 but there you go.  Yes, it was deliberate.  :)

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Must be an elaborate system of pulleys and gears tucked away in all that skank wear?

As a lover of tiny tits, I am saddened that small breasts are not better catered for in the Poser world.

"The pros simply know their market."

Correct sir
Why complain about breast sizes being dialed /morphed in by others.
There are many options available for everyone's needs in terms of figure morphs  and even render engines.

Poser has a reputation as a" Nekkid fantasy boobie chick" application for a reason and it is  not merely "pro" application user "snobbery" over at CGsociety

It is the undeniable reality of what you see coming out of poser these days.

It is some sort of cultural mind set IMHO

Ironicly in another Mysticeagle thread,
he stated clearly that he is seeking some normal V4 walk cycles and specifically stated he was NOT interested
links to high heeled "sexy/swaying, Cat walk
fashion model strut animations.
Just normal, flat shoe walk animations for V4**.
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Two thread respondents promptly posted youtube links to ......guess what?

Nearly naked, thong wearing, bare butt cheek high heeled, fashion model ,sexy strut walks with animated bouncing boobs.

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I'll second that, lesbentley. Hmmm, has anyone noticed a distinct lack of Female commentary in this thread? Or at least Female avatars (not counting winterclaws Chocobo).

Oh yeah... Gazongas.

My chocobo is male!!!

 

 

And he likes bouncy bazungas just like I do.

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i'm not against bouncing jubblies or large bazongas, or even thong clad trollops with chivers glutes , but it is a shame that that is all i find when i search for links to walk cycles.

that sorta pose suits a cerain kind of animation or scene, but if thats all my future holds, i'd rather take up photography, specialise in glamour models and deal with the real thing ;)

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Eagle, your search skills are either an epic failure or epicly awesome.  ;)

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"Party jugs"... apparently.

Yup, browsing the marketplace here does rather feel like I've issued a casting call on behalf of Russ Meyer, and I'm viewing the respondents, at times...

Men dismayed by large breasts. Somewhere, pigs are flying and Lucifer is trying to find the number of a good heating contractor. Fear not. Any increase in Al Bundy syndrome probably only reflects existential anxiety create by war, economic uncertainty etc. Breasts represent nurture, comfort and security.

Abuse, er ah amuse  :-)

Breast Size by Country (USA USA! No idea if they controlled for implants)

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=5285

Penis Size by Country (Don't gloat Sam - looks like the fugitive Puritans were more than just small minded)

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

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Hehe.  I just bet the plastic melons are skewing the results because I'm certain we have the upper hand with natural Gropefruits.

As for the old family jewels, I have a double advantage.  Apart from being a Brit,  somewhere in my very mixed ancestry there's genes from an ethnic group popularly believed to be well endowed.  :)

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there's genes from an ethnic group popularly believed to be well endowed.  :)"

Ethnic group?  don't you mean species?

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ah yes , genes , which is an odd way of spelling jeans, especially tight tight jeans.

Perhaps something can be made of the download stats for this freebie Ultimate Breasts.

 

 

CGTalk does not have a abundance of girls cause few can model girls.

Does not matter if she has a 5 year olds face as long as she has a big cheast she 18+.

Regaurdless the face Small cheasted skinny females are considered under age.unless they have pointy ears.

Don't know if that asia doll would be legal in USA.

Some idiot got some asia ilegal comix and told USA ,where to stick it.
USA stuck him in prison for 20 years.

 

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porn indrustry walks all over anyones and everyones copy rights.

sex sell thay have all the $$$ even hollywood does not have the $$$ to stop them from walking all over there copy rights

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http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073

...

I'm from one of those green zones ;)

As for the thread subject, I really don't mind, thankfuly we can dial spin those up and down as we see fit.

I daresay the duchess of cambridge would approve of the trend in this thread, given her recent fotos.  but seriously, I hadn't noticed the giant boobs in the ads here.

 

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Thank you Kate for "no alterations!"

I've always thought this was wisdom (heard in an interview with a dress designer):

"If you ain't got it, flaunt it."

.... or, the confident attitude of wise and crafty, stylish, petite French women: "My breasts are not small, they are French!"

 ::::: Opera :::::

"CGTalk does not have a abundance of girls cause few can model girls."

Wrong..most at CG talk are interested in Game Dev&  Film VFX.
Most games have powerful male Characters
or creatures with armor etc
and VFX is ....well Fire Smoke and Fluid simulation etc.
they Dont render stills of naked boobie chicks just for the purpose of posting in website galleries.
And  even when they do it is to showcase their modeling texturing ,sculpting skills to try to get employed by CG studios.

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I'll echo that "sex sells", no matter how much some of us don't appreciate the idea. LOL.

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Quote - Ach, Sam.

I have been complaining about this for years.
No body cares about shape. All they have to be is Big, Bigger and Biggest.

Its' like Poly count.
Nobody cares about the shape of a figure, as long as there a lots poly's.

From the first moments I have been Posering, I have been reducing BALLOONS into breasts.
In volume and shape.

I gave up on complaining.. No body is listening.

BOOBS sell.
Polycount sells.

$$$$ are all that matter.

It's an American thing. American men like big tits, no matter if they're fake or not. I was just discussing this with someone yesterday! LOL. Frankly, I think big knockers are hideous, but that's just from a female standpoint. I wouldn't wanna carry those around! HA!

Laurie

Quote - It's an American thing. American men like big tits, no matter if they're fake or not. I was just discussing this with someone yesterday! LOL. Frankly, I think big knockers are hideous, but that's just from a female standpoint. I wouldn't wanna carry those around! HA!

Laurie

Yeah, I just worry about the back problems in later life... :blink:

Course, from what you're saying, it sounds like there'd be no shortage of men volunteering to help with carrying them around?

Maybe not what most women would want though, that kind of service... :rolleyes:

Quote - The boob-centric phenomena is also evident in the world of collector dolls:

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/konlin/e/9867705986090d8912c38b503cd04641

I used to work for Doll Reader magazine (with the advertisers) and other than Barbie or Robert Tonner dolls, NONE of the collector dolls here in the states has boobs like that. Of course, most collector dolls here are of children (again, other than Barbie or Robert Tonner). Check out some of Hildegard Gunzel's dolls (German dollmaker). She makes some of the most beautiful dolls I've seen, but I'm not, nor ever have been, a collector. LOL. I just admire her talent for sculpting and the clothes she designs for them :).

Laurie

Quote - > Quote - It's an American thing. American men like big tits, no matter if they're fake or not. I was just discussing this with someone yesterday! LOL. Frankly, I think big knockers are hideous, but that's just from a female standpoint. I wouldn't wanna carry those around! HA!

Laurie

Yeah, I just worry about the back problems in later life... :blink:

Course, from what you're saying, it sounds like there'd be no shortage of men volunteering to help with carrying them around?

Maybe not what most women would want though, that kind of service... :rolleyes:

Back problems for sure ;). And I don't think some man walking backwards in front of me all the time would be either handy or user-friendly..lol. I just saw lmckenzie's maps for breast and penis size. I think I'm gonna move to the UK and go one size up...lmao (for the male counterpart, that is ;)).

Quote - "CGTalk does not have a abundance of girls cause few can model girls."

Wrong..most at CG talk are interested in Game Dev&  Film VFX.
Most games have powerful male Characters
or creatures with armor etc
and VFX is ....well Fire Smoke and Fluid simulation etc.
they Dont render stills of naked boobie chicks just for the purpose of posting in website galleries.
And  even when they do it is to showcase their modeling texturing ,sculpting skills to try to get employed by CG studios.

Cheers

at CGTalk some fool posted i got a job teaching how to model charaters ,
so how do you model charaters.
my responce got  me put on probation ,I guess for life ,at CGTalk.

If you want to be impressive.

500,000 can create vehicles ,monsters,cartoons.ect ect.
500,000 can create a low poly Game mesh.
Who gives a damn what CGI App's you have.500,000 others have them also.

How many can create Vicky ?

 

 

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Ha ha! Just seen the maps too Laurie :laugh:

Well Laurie... Mexico or Canada are perhaps nearer geographically?

But if you overlaid the "technique" or "charm" maps, maybe you would be buying that transatlantic plane ticket...

Quote - Ha ha! Just seen the maps too Laurie :laugh:

Well Laurie... Mexico or Canada are perhaps nearer geographically?

But if you overlaid the "technique" or "charm" maps, maybe you would be buying that transatlantic plane ticket...

Nah, I'm not bilingual ;). I'd like someone that speaks relatively the same language...heh. I can worry about slang and minor differences later :P. Besides, Canada is the same as the US. I already have that :P.

And I've heard that about men in the UK actually. Perhaps I should start filling my piggy bank...lol.

Laurie

I have nothing to add to this thread except that I just googled Letha Weapons and really wish I hadn't. LOL. I can't believe anyone could be turned on by body parts that are so lumpy and mangled. The male brain continues to mystify me.

Mind you, I can't understand how anyone could cast Harvey Keitel as the male lead in a film about female sexual awakening. So I remain equally mystified by the female brain.

Peeps are turned on by the most remarkable things, I guess.

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Quote - And I've heard that about men in the UK actually. Perhaps I should start filling my piggy bank...lol.

Oooer... is that another euphemism? :blushing:

Quote - > Quote - And I've heard that about men in the UK actually. Perhaps I should start filling my piggy bank...lol.

Oooer... is that another euphemism? :blushing:

Nah, just that American men, in my experience, have no "charm" LOL. Of course, I don't get out much :P. My experience would fill the bottom of a thimble. Heh. Of course, the beer drinking, chest thumping, baseball hat wearing crowd never did much to impress me. And I live in the middle of it ;). Who wants to go and see orchestra when there's a Nascar race on? :P

Laurie

Harvey Keitel previously had experience in the role of male lead in a film about female sexual awakening. Sort of.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107822/

::::: Opera :::::

 

 

Quote - I have nothing to add to this thread except that I just googled Letha Weapons and really wish I hadn't. LOL. I can't believe anyone could be turned on by body parts that are so lumpy and mangled. The male brain continues to mystify me.

Mind you, I can't understand how anyone could cast Harvey Keitel as the male lead in a film about female sexual awakening. So I remain equally mystified by the female brain.

Peeps are turned on by the most remarkable things, I guess.

Yeah, I made the same mistake...

   :scared:

:blink::blink:

I'm not that turned on by Harvey Keitel either... no offense Harvey.

American men can be immensely charming when they want to be, and European men can be downright thugs.

Canadian men seem to have very little personality/personality quirks in comparison to those from south of the border or across the pond (perhaps they're just kinda shy), with the exception of the francophones, who have charm by the shedloads.

The most charming I've met, though, are West Texans, who also seem to have the best manners of the lot.

Unfortunately, I've only lived in four countries so my experience is limited.

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Yeah, Moriador's got me, on my spurious, geographically biased "charm" claims :laugh:

Funnily enough, talking of sarcasm, if someone notes that a person's a "real charmer" or "right charmer" here in Scotland, it often means quite the opposite...

Good thing we judge people buy who they are and not buy what they look like or have.

any one that alters there body because ... what ever reson.

There mind and soul is confused about what really matters.

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i am pretty amazed no one is posting renders. bring out your girls!

::: og :::

So is it down to a round of guess the cup size and nationality now?

"If you want to be impressive.

500,000 can create vehicles ,monsters,cartoons.ect ect.
500,000 can create a low poly Game mesh.
Who gives a damn what CGI App's you have.500,000 others have them also.
How many can create Vicky ?"

Sorry...not relevant how many can "create Vicky".
Most of them aspire to work for VFX companies ILM ,Weta Digital, Dreamworks or Pixar etc.

They want to work on huge, big budget team projects Like Lord of the rings or the Avengers or Avatar

where they use custom rigs that leverage the underlying support structures and custom scripting of their native programs HOUDINI,MAYA , SOFTIMAGE etc.

The ability to create yet another Naked poser chick
( Vicky Alison, aiko etc), is Quite meaningless in those project specific CG/VFX pipelines that those CGsociety aspirants are trying to enter.

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Quote - Breast Size by Country (USA USA! No idea if they controlled for implants)

http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=5285

 

Hurray for swedish chicks.

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"Nah, I'm not bilingual ;)."

I've always tried to be a cunning linguist.

Personally, I find certain tones or voice or accents to be very sexy. I'd rather listen to Lauren Bacall reading the phone book than most women whispering sweet nothings.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken

On the topic of technique versus, er, endowment, that map would seem to make it clear as to why it was India that came up with the Kama Sutra?

Quote - "Nah, I'm not bilingual ;)."

I've always striven to be a cunning linguist.

Were those euphemisms... I can't even tell anymore :lol:

Quote - Yeah, Moriador's got me, on my spurious, geographically biased "charm" claims :laugh:

Funnily enough, talking of sarcasm, if someone notes that a person's a "real charmer" or "right charmer" here in Scotland, it often means quite the opposite...

Ah, sarcasm. Wait....that's another thread.....

;)

Laurie

Quote - Ah, sarcasm. Wait....that's another thread.....

;)

Laurie

He he... I can't even tell which thread I'm on any more. Okay... that's apparently the effect that contemplating giant bosoms has on the male human brain then

Of course, the REALLY interesting issue here is not what individual members like, rather the issue of "lovemaps." As a psychologist, I really doubt that the preference for a particular physical trait is voluntary. So, bashing men who like big bosoms is about as productive as bashing girls who have small ones. Neither can do much about it on their own. 

I dedicated- this render to ghelmer; and his unabashed joy in the beautiy of the female nude.

I think it's very interesting how Vic 4 and Posette both contrast and complement weach other here in this scene.

Vic4.1v3 and PosetteV3 seem to have taken a wrong turn on their way to the Nudest Beach in Tiberas, Israel.

  STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS

Ghelmer got me started, so here again is something I saw on the way to the nudist beach in Tiberias, Israel.

  STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS

Surprise! No nudes on the Nudist Beach. Must have gone elesewhere when every Tamir, Uzi, and Hayim decided to come and ogle. Ah well, C'est la-Vie. DPH

  STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS

Based on cup size and their otherwise gigantic stature, I'm thinking these are visiting Russian or Scandinavian gals? (refering to lmckenzie's map link)

.The Redhead is Scot, and her hobby is Caber Tossing!!!

  STOP PALESTINIAN CHILD ABUSE!!!! ISLAMIC HATRED OF JEWS

i frowed up

Quote - Surprise! No nudes on the Nudist Beach. Must have gone elesewhere when every Tamir, Uzi, and Hayim decided to come and ogle. Ah well, C'est la-Vie.
DPH

At least they have built-in floatation devices and will never drown.

Quote - Of course, the REALLY interesting issue here is not what individual members like, rather the issue of "lovemaps." As a psychologist, I really doubt that the preference for a particular physical trait is voluntary. So, bashing men who like big bosoms is about as productive as bashing girls who have small ones. Neither can do much about it on their own. 

I actually feel sorry for men who are particularly attracted to enormous breasts. They are so likely to be spending much of their life unsatisfied.

Quote - Good thing we judge people buy who they are and not buy what they look like or have.

any one that alters there body because ... what ever reson.

There mind and soul is confused about what really matters.

There's no correlation between intelligence and happiness, nor between intelligence and wealth, or between kindness and happiness, nor between kindness and wealth. Nor are honesty and loyalty rewarded with either happiness or wealth.

However, there are distinct advantages in both happiness and wealth among those who are more beautiful.

So I'd say that those who alter their bodies to make them more beautiful know exactly what matters. People care about looks far more than personality. Some of us claim that we don't, but when we're tested, it turns out, unconsciously, we absolutely do.

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Quote - "If you want to be impressive.

500,000 can create vehicles ,monsters,cartoons.ect ect.
500,000 can create a low poly Game mesh.
Who gives a damn what CGI App's you have.500,000 others have them also.
How many can create Vicky ?"

Sorry...not relevant how many can "create Vicky".
Most of them aspire to work for VFX companies ILM ,Weta Digital, Dreamworks or Pixar etc.

They want to work on huge, big budget team projects Like Lord of the rings or the Avengers or Avatar

where they use custom rigs that leverage the underlying support structures and custom scripting of their native programs HOUDINI,MAYA , SOFTIMAGE etc.

The ability to create yet another Naked poser chick
( Vicky Alison, aiko etc), is Quite meaningless in those project specific CG/VFX pipelines that those CGsociety aspirants are trying to enter.

Cheers

 

 

The CGI Artist that got the job at ILM what did they do to stand out from the other 500,000 ?

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Quote - > Quote - Of course, the REALLY interesting issue here is not what individual members like, rather the issue of "lovemaps." As a psychologist, I really doubt that the preference for a particular physical trait is voluntary. So, bashing men who like big bosoms is about as productive as bashing girls who have small ones. Neither can do much about it on their own. 

I actually feel sorry for men who are particularly attracted to enormous breasts. They are so likely to be spending much of their life unsatisfied.

Quote - Good thing we judge people buy who they are and not buy what they look like or have.

any one that alters there body because ... what ever reson.

There mind and soul is confused about what really matters.

There's no correlation between intelligence and happiness, nor between intelligence and wealth, or between kindness and happiness, nor between kindness and wealth. Nor are honesty and loyalty rewarded with either happiness or wealth.

However, there are distinct advantages in both happiness and wealth among those who are more beautiful.

So I'd say that those who alter their bodies to make them more beautiful know exactly what matters. People care about looks far more than personality. Some of us claim that we don't, but when we're tested, it turns out, unconsciously, we absolutely do.

 

Movie stars are rich & beautiful. are they happy ?

I know some value.
beauty ,gold ,mansions ,expensive cars, expensive jewelry ,fame etc etc.

The wise ones know what to value.

 

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Quote - So I'd say that those who alter their bodies to make them more beautiful know exactly what matters. People care about looks far more than personality. Some of us claim that we don't, but when we're tested, it turns out, unconsciously, we absolutely do.

I was tested. And won. LOL. I found that the more you love someone, the more attractive they become to you. So it all works out in the end ;). It just so happens this guy (not too pretty but loaded with everything else) had two attributes I DO like: dark hair and blue or green eyes. LOL

Laurie

Quote -  

Movie stars are rich & beautiful. are they happy ?

I know some value.
beauty ,gold ,mansions ,expensive cars, expensive jewelry ,fame etc etc.

The wise ones know what to value.

That's odd. I value kindness, honesty, humor, intelligence and trust. Hmmm...maybe I'm doing it wrong. Material things are fleeting: they come and go like the common cold, but those things I mentioned are priceless and a rare thing these days.

Laurie

"The CGI Artist that got the job at ILM what did they do to stand out from the other 500,000 ?"

Well only  the recruiting Department at Industrial Light& Magic can answer that sir
they are the ones reviewing the Demo reels and portfolios.  

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My own thoughts would be it really doesn't matter how ILM decided who to hire, it ain't gonna be me and I ain't even gonna try.

Back to big screaming bazoombas, I don't know any woman that's as well endowed as VIcky, thank God.  I irritates me when I have to dial the breasts back, enough that when I get one dialed in to look like a woman and not a cariacature, that's how I save it so I don't have to go through it again.

Real breasts can be small, medium and large.  Only in CG do they come as deadly weapons.

 

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Quote - > Quote - So I'd say that those who alter their bodies to make them more beautiful know exactly what matters. People care about looks far more than personality. Some of us claim that we don't, but when we're tested, it turns out, unconsciously, we absolutely do.

I was tested. And won. LOL. I found that the more you love someone, the more attractive they become to you. So it all works out in the end ;). It just so happens this guy (not too pretty but loaded with everything else) had two attributes I DO like: dark hair and blue or green eyes. LOL

Laurie

When Isaid "test", I meant that when pretty people are put out on the street and they ask for help, they get it from strangers more often and with more enthusiasm than if they are plain or ugly. Various experiments of this sort have been replicated endlessly. There may be confounds: perhaps plain people just aren't quite as friendly in their manner of asking for help.

When that confound is removed by using photos and people are asked to do various things for them online and so on, the results are pretty much the same.

Also, when people are shown photos which have previously been rated as attractive, they also rate them as more honest, kinder, more intelligent, even when given no more information than is available by looking at them.

So sometimes people think they are valuing people for their personalities, but they've already decided they like their personality before they ever knew them -- and they had judged them solely on appearance right from the start.

It's an unconscious bias. Humans have many such biases, such as the one that favours youth. I'm not saying it can't be overcome or that everyone has it or has it to the same degree. But I think it's wise not to deny that it exists for the majority of people and that it can have a rather profound effect on people's lives.

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Movie stars are rich & beautiful. are they happy ?

Movie stars are so far beyond the main curve. They have numerous other problems such as drug addiction, narcissism, papparazzi problems. They are outliers.

I'm talking about ordinary, but better than average looking people. Other people treat them better and judge them less harshly, even when the only information they have about them is what they look like. Just how it is. In general, people are nicer to nice looking people. They are also nicer to better dressed people.

So while a few people will claim not to judge people by their looks, the vast majority of mankind still does judge people by their looks, and in that environment, it's wise to make yourself as pretty as you can (and to dress as nicely as you can).

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In regard to giant breast morphs on various poser figures (which I think is grotesque, but that's just my opinion), I've often noticed that those who utilize such morphs rarely compensate for the mesh UV distortion by scaling down the areola texture. The result is a blurry, hideous mess. Go figure?

Quote - When Isaid "test", I meant that when pretty people are put out on the street and they ask for help, they get it from strangers more often and with more enthusiasm than if they are plain or ugly. Various experiments of this sort have been replicated endlessly. There may be confounds: perhaps plain people just aren't quite as friendly in their manner of asking for help.

Yeah, that's probably true.

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Psychology Today's take on the mammary madness

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-dawn/201004/why-do-breasts-mesmerize

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Had a suit call me a long haired white trash tattooed hippie that belong in prison.
I knew he was trying to insult me ,but I took it as a complement comming from the likes of him.

suits are ploitishens ,bankers ,mob etc etc .when I see someone in a suit all I see is
a well dressed demon.

suits make the poles ,maps.

I've known some girls ,they called me a lot of things mostly crasy, but good looking was never one of them.But I've never had any probleams getting a girl friend.
You can be ugly as me but if your confident and determined ,get any girl you want.

One would think in a strip bar the prettiest girl would make the most.but no.
The coolest girls make the most.
The girls that think there something with there fake atitudes .Go home broke

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I wonder if people are more inclined to talk to you on the forums if your avatar is beautiful?

Hmm? what? oh, just thinking out loud again.

Quote - I wonder if people are more inclined to talk to you on the forums if your avatar is beautiful?

Hmm? what? oh, just thinking out loud again.

 

 If they have a girl avatar ,I tend to think I'm talking to a girl.

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*"I wonder if people are more inclined to talk to you on the forums if your avatar is beautiful?" *

 Ah, so that's why people ignore me.

"If they have a girl avatar, I tend to think I'm talking to a girl."

I've learned not to assume, but yeah that's my first instinctive impression as well.

On the subject of breasts, I see that Kate Middleton was greeted by topless native women on her tour. Kind of shows how insane the whole nudity thing is. 

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken

I thought WandW was a girl the whole time... then he mentioned his wife in a thread. Girl avatar, sort of feminine sounding user name (like wendy or wanda). Or maybe my assumptions are too conventional?

Quote - I wonder if people are more inclined to talk to you on the forums if your avatar is beautiful?

Hmm? what? oh, just thinking out loud again.

I don't think so. Though I do think we make assumptions about the gender of the person based on name and  gender. Until recently, and before I put up an avatar, people assumed I was male.

Quote - Had a suit call me a long haired white trash tattooed hippie that belong in prison.
I knew he was trying to insult me ,but I took it as a complement comming from the likes of him.

suits are ploitishens ,bankers ,mob etc etc .when I see someone in a suit all I see is
a well dressed demon.

suits make the poles ,maps.

I've known some girls ,they called me a lot of things mostly crasy, but good looking was never one of them.But I've never had any probleams getting a girl friend.
You can be ugly as me but if your confident and determined ,get any girl you want.

One would think in a strip bar the prettiest girl would make the most.but no.
The coolest girls make the most.
The girls that think there something with there fake atitudes .Go home broke

Well, they judge you for not wearing a suit; you judge them for wearing a suit. I don't see a big difference. Still judging people by what they wear.

My husband is one of the most liberal minded, compassionate, and non-judgmental people I know, and he was raised by hippie farmers on Saltspring Island. But he is required to wear a suit for his job and he wears a military haircut because he doesn't care enough about making a statement with his appearnce to bother growing his hair. No doubt you'd immediately assume he wasn't worth your time, which would be sad, because he wouldn't assume the same about you.

As for pretty girls in strip bars... I thought the ones that made the most were the ones most willing to grind their crotches in people's faces. In other words: the skankiest. The pretty girls probably aren't as willing to do it. Why? Because outside, in the rest of their lives, they don't have to. They're not used to it. The ugly ones have to be skanky all the time to get attention. They're experts. ;)

Quote - *"I wonder if people are more inclined to talk to you on the forums if your avatar is beautiful?" *

 Ah, so that's why people ignore me.

LOL. I don't. Does that count? :)

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I thought you were a guy moriador until someone else I know that knows you as well told me otherwise. LOL

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The gender of my avatar changes from time to time but I don't think I've ever been mistaken for female.  Besides which, I'd probably make the world's worst transvestite.

Suits are items of clothing with no agenda of their own.  It's the person inside makes the difference.  I have - and still do when necessary - worn suits on many occasions, including work.  Didn't make me a different person.  Besides which, a dickhead in a suit is a dickhead, same as a dickhead in a leather jacket is a dickhead.  Clothes, most emphatically, do not make the man.

Thread drift, anyone?  :D 

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Quote - Well, they judge you for not wearing a suit; you judge them for wearing a suit. I don't see a big difference. Still judging people by what they wear.

My husband is one of the most liberal minded, compassionate, and non-judgmental people I know, and he was raised by hippie farmers on Saltspring Island. But he is required to wear a suit for his job and he wears a military haircut because he doesn't care enough about making a statement with his appearnce to bother growing his hair. No doubt you'd immediately assume he wasn't worth your time, which would be sad, because he wouldn't assume the same about you.

My bad ,I should have said that better.It was a bad use of suit as slang.
I don't like people that think there better then others.
I don't like bad politicians ,bankers etc etc
The desent ones are ok.

Just casue there pretty or well dressed ,Don't make them a good person.
Just cause there ugly or badly dressed ,Don't make them a bad person or a skank.

I peronaly have suits for weddings & funerals.

I have the up most respect for soilders.

Quote - As for pretty girls in strip bars... I thought the ones that made the most were the ones most willing to grind their crotches in people's faces. In other words: the skankiest. The pretty girls probably aren't as willing to do it. Why? Because outside, in the rest of their lives, they don't have to. They're not used to it. The ugly ones have to be skanky all the time to get attention. They're experts. ;)

All girls grind but they half to get the costomer to like them first.
There poor uneducated doing best they can to make it threw this hell.
Don't judge to harshly.

 

 

 

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This sword image was totally inspired by this thread.  I hope you guys like it.

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RorrKonn....all your posts make my proofreaders buzzers go off. LOL

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Quote - RorrKonn....all your posts make my proofreaders buzzers go off. LOL

Laurie

 

Firefox has a spell checker in it. If I ever figer out how it works .
Anyone got directions ?

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right click the text box. click "check spelling". each word thats spelt wrong will be highlighted. right click each word, click the suggested spelling.

If you use the Pale Moon version of FF, it doesn't have it.

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Quote - This sword image was totally inspired by this thread.  I hope you guys like it.

I honor of this thread:

I'll see your sword image, and raise you a sorceress throwing a spell - though I claim no responsibility for her endowments....... really....... it was the combination of characters used (they had sort of an additive effect in that area), I had to dial down the breast size to around -0.5 as I recall. Yep, that's it, it was all the programs fault.

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Of course - quality over quantity always.

I haven't  visited an ecdysiast emporium in many years but I don't recall any particular correlation between looks and work ethic. In a job where your income is largely dependent on tips, I don't think the 'I'm too pretty for this' attitude would work out too well. I'm guessing that the average looking girl who comes across as friendly, approachable and easy to talk to is going to go home with more than one who depends on looks alone but I defer to the economists since there is apparently there is quite a body of economic research. Who knew Richard Feynman was a strip club afficianado?

http://financialuproar.com/2011/04/18/the-economics-of-strip-clubs/

http://arandomwalk.blogspot.com/2008/02/strip-club-economics.html 

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Ah, NITWAS (or BBVIATWAS). We should always take time to render unto Vickie that which is hers. Long may she reign.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken

How bout we use http://www.spelljax.com/

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He's never been to a strip bar and he don't like them but he's going to tell us all about them.
That's bloody hilarious ,may be next he could tell us what it's like being a marchean living on pluto.

Where's the most dancers don't last 3 months.

Where's the you alt to see a dancers feet after dancing in high heals
after dancing 12 hours a day 6 days a week ?

Where's the when a 200 pound dumb ass idiot gets drunk and slaps a 100 pound girl 1/2 way across the room ?

cause the cheep management won't hire day bouncers.

management wont let her work with a black eye ,but wont pay her ether .so go live on the street cause we don't care.

Where's the yes it's a real job and not the easiest or safest job around.huh.

Wheres the there mostly very young 18 to 22.
you seldom see any of them over 22.

Where is the so how's a 20 year old single mom going to support her self and kid on $7.25 a hour ?
Hell that wont pay for the fuel to get to the crappy MickyD's job.

I'll stop here but I could go on for days.

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what happened here?  sam was talking about gnorks and now it's about misogyny.  abusing women is not the answer, it's the problem.

Hmmm, I merely found it interesting that so much economic theory had been applied to the profession. Anyone can google and find a other economic analyses. No doubt the evils you cite are well documented and may be found using other search terms. The guy wasn't claiming to be Upton Sinclair.

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Wow.

Laurie

Sam, it is not your imagination. As the number of users of our beloved program grows so it seems does the number of enourmous boobie pictures. I am naturally 'heavy' chested. I've never been crazy about it. I was most comfortable when I was a B cup. I do pinup art and fetish art, but my girls are in the C range, maybe D range. A lot of pictures I'm seeing now go way, way beyond that into what I call the grotesque. And when I've looked at the galleries here or over at DA, I have to bite my lip and not make a comment about being turned off to someone's image because of the size of the bresticles. Everyone's got their likes and dislikes. My preference is in the medium range.

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Quote - My bad ,I should have said that better.It was a bad use of suit as slang.
I don't like people that think there better then others.
I don't like bad politicians ,bankers etc etc
The desent ones are ok.

Just casue there pretty or well dressed ,Don't make them a good person.
Just cause there ugly or badly dressed ,Don't make them a bad person or a skank.

I am absolutely not disagreeing with this. It's totally true.

All I'm saying is that, out there in the world, when you are dealing with strangers, you will be better treated if you are attractive. And first impressions make a huge difference for a lot of people, even long after you are no longer strangers. Hence we dress up for interviews. Or at least we do if we want the job.

I also think that rebelling against these biases is a completely legitimate way to live, and it definitely takes courage to do it. But I don't blame people who aren't willing to rebel. I believe conformity, just like rebellion, is a legitimate choice as long as it does not advocate or permit unjust or unnecessary violence.

Quote - All girls grind but they half to get the costomer to like them first.
There poor uneducated doing best they can to make it threw this hell.
Don't judge to harshly.

Well, you're right. I shouldn't have used the word "skanky" since it has a lot of negative connotations. Alas, English does not have a huge vocabulary for describing "sexual" behavior that doesn't carry negative meanings. I didn't want to use the word "sexy" because I can't imagine anything about a strip club being remotely sexy. To me, the word "depressing" would be more appropriate. But I get that men must see it differently.

But I doubt that the girls who are "friendliest" really do have a nice attitude or care much for their customers. Surely they are sales people more than anything.

 

 

 

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Quote - what happened here?  sam was talking about gnorks and now it's about misogyny.  abusing women is not the answer, it's the problem.

Actually I think a discussion about stereotypical depictions of women's bodies leading to decriptions of misogny is a competely predictable progression. Objectification of the person as a body (and obsession with it) is a major component of sexism.

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Movies are entertainment. You pay a little for the movies.

Drugs ,sexual stuff ,alcohol ,gambling etc etc for the most part are adult entertainment.
You pay a lot for adult entertainment. a lot more then money.
From what I've seen most adults are not mature enough for adult entertainment.

I've seen adult entertainment destroy a lot of people.
There where not bad people but the machine can chew you up and spit you out before you know it.

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Quote - norks, airbags, boobies, funbags, mammaries, chesticles, top bollocks.

I'm sorry, but I just had to LOL! I've just learned a few new alternative words for my favourite things in the world! Thankyou! I think I'll still call them 'boobs' for the majority of the time though.

I have to agree with what you're saying; there are an enormous amount of enormous-boobed Poser girls out there and it does baffle me. It especially puzzles me when they look absolutely horrible; like something worse than we saw in the first series of The Sims! Most of my girls have modest sized boobs; not to say I don't like big ones, I just prefer a more 'Girl Next Door (4)' look... Little plug for you there, Blackhearted... No, I'm not being paid... Much!

 

Maybe we should try and flood the community with little-tittied ladies, in an attempt to brainwash the masses into adopting the 'less is more' attitude to their renders... ;)

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"Alas, English does not have a huge vocabulary for describing "sexual" behavior that doesn't carry negative meanings."

Maybe 'provocative,' YMMV?

I probably shouldn't say this, but what the heck. Much as I try to sympathize with the feminist cause ... Much as I acknowledge the evils of men toward women, going back to when #1 Guy set up Eve with that apple thing, yada yada. I'm still foggy on why a mostly jocular foray veers into a string theory of everything based on misogny. It may be valid, but it's kinda like grandma falling face first into the mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving dinner - time to hail a cab. Maybe it's just me. Apologies to the guests. Sam, great party. Send me the bill for that lampshade.

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Quote - "Alas, English does not have a huge vocabulary for describing "sexual" behavior that doesn't carry negative meanings."

Maybe 'provocative,' YMMV?

I probably shouldn't say this, but what the heck. Much as I try to sympathize with the feminist cause ... Much as I acknowledge the evils of men toward women, going back to when #1 Guy set up Eve with that apple thing, yada yada. I'm still foggy on why a mostly jocular foray veers into a string theory of everything based on misogny. It may be valid, but it's kinda like grandma falling face first into the mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving dinner - time to hail a cab. Maybe it's just me. Apologies to the guests. Sam, great party. Send me the bill for that lampshade.

Perhaps we could talk about penis size instead? You know, all fun and jocular like.

Somehow I think such a thread would not get much attention. I wonder why? ;)

Of course, I could be wrong. Perhaps it's a subject we're all dying to talk about.

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Might not be popular because women don't care about size as much as technique...lol.

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All I'm saying is that, out there in the world, when you are dealing with strangers, you will be better treated if you are attractive. 

Yep. That's why us ugly f**kers have no friends, only pets. and why strip clubs exist.
People are shallow. Just how it is. 

 

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Quote - Perhaps we could talk about penis size instead? You know, all fun and jocular like.

Somehow I think such a thread would not get much attention. I wonder why? ;)

Of course, I could be wrong. Perhaps it's a subject we're all dying to talk about.

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I'll take myself with every single one of my numerous flaws and inadequacies. I just want a pill that makes me twenty years younger. Age is the biggest downer for women.

Downer. Hah. Sorry. Which brings us right back to the OP. ;) But I guess fake ones don't drop quite as much over time, an added bonus.

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Quote - Might not be popular because women don't care about size as much as technique...lol.

Laurie

?  Most women I know say size and technique are important but OTOH, a guy who is too well endowed tends to be lazy and have lousy technique, so a happy medium is preferable. 

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Quote - Might not be popular because women don't care about size as much as technique...lol.

Laurie

Very true.

Hmmm. But in still images, is a small member as aesthetically pleasing as a larger one?

Not having had unfettered locker room access, I can't attest to the typical range of sizes, but it seems to me that most "artistic" or pinup photos (and the few renders that appear here and there) that feature male genitals tend toward the mid to larger end of the scale. Am I wrong, I wonder?

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Quote - I'll take myself with every single one of my numerous flaws and inadequacies. I just want a pill that makes me twenty years younger. Age is the biggest downer for women.

Quoted for agreement...sigh

 

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