I just got an email from ShareCG that they are thinking about charging to host our freebie files. They would like members to put their opinions on the blog.

Laurie

It appears that they want to charge all users $10 to avoid the banner ads; not a big fee...

 

PS I didn't get the email, but then I don't have anything hosted there.  Not in my SPAM folder either, although there is one from 'Becky' with the subject "My husband is out of town"... :lol:

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I don't mind the fee either, but I'm sure a lot will ;) It's hard to get ppl to pay for something they used to get for free...heh.

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Everybody has access to my freebies and it doesn't cost me or you a cent.

Just sayin.

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BB makes a very good point.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

I have my own website I can park all my stuff on. Or put it here. Don't matter. Just passing on the news ;)

Laurie

I just posted a coffin figure to ShareCG. I'm happy to share a lot of the stuff I make, but I don't think I will be paying for the privilege of giving stuff away.

they won't charge IMVHO.  they know it's a lose-lose situation.  YMMV

I look at it two ways, the first, ten bucks a year, not that much.  I can't get a good website for that.  Pay to put up freebies, okay, but then look at how much I use sharecg when I'm looking for something.  Ten bucks isn't much for what you can get.  I've got some forty items there, a lot of them which would have been pulled if I had to pay for the space.  (YEah, I know, they wouldn't be worth paying for, which I'm always the first one to say so.)  If need be, I'll pay and not complain.

 

D.

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Quote - I just posted a coffin figure to ShareCG. I'm happy to share a lot of the stuff I make, but I don't think I will be paying for the privilege of giving stuff away.

I agree. I like to give away stuff for free but i will not Pay that people can download my freestuff. 

I will move the freestuff I have there to my own website.

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If they charge all my freestuff goes away.   I cant afford to pay even a small fee for stuff I am giving away.

Maybe some of those on the fence will just start selling their stuff..hehe.

Laurie

$10 in the Poserverse is nearly unthinkable, and that's to buy stuff. lol

I won't be paying to provide content to a site the used to pay for the content.

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Brownbaging freebies and passing them under the counter ;-) rofl dont seem right you have to pay to give stuff away! even more so when you think they used to pay us to put them there

best go tidy my google site !!!

I also can remember when sharecg used to pay folks part of the ad revenue. Problem was some people misused the scheme, like uploading loads of background photos, so they had to stop doing it. As for asking us to pay, I'm not surprised they've had to consider this. Poser sales are slimmer than a supermodel in a matchstick factory. and theres a massive increase on the demand for freebies. On my site it averages around 500 people downloading 1/2 a GB in freebies per day. However sales don't even come to close to that and like sharecg it's increasingly hard to carry on. So what some might say, who cares. Stuff 'em. But every time a poser site shuts down, thats less choice, less niche items for artists and in turn that can reduce the options for creativity.

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.

YOu guys might want to postr these ideas on the sharecg site. Right now most of the comments are for it. It doubtful they'll listen to those who object, but if we complain here rather than there they won't even hear us.

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I placed my objection, and have deleted my stuff from sharecg. The notice to me sounds like they have made the deciion already.

Yep, I suspct the decision has already been made, and work is already being done to put it in motion.

I need to look up how to creat my own free google site.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

I also object to it and I've posted there, saying as much.  I'll delete my stuff from there if - or more likely, when - the subscription scheme begins.

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It will be a shame if this happens. This business of raising prices during a recession is riduculous, and has to stop. It will only hurt everyone in the end, including the ones raising their prices.

I have purchased a great deal and gotten a number  of freebies. I always try to thank the provider for their generosity and skill. And I thank you all again, now. Hope things work out for the best.

Won't they just delete our stuff on their own if they make this change and we don't pay up?

I can't figure out how to remove my figures. It's a little embarassing that they rate lower than Poser vase props.

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Quote - I can't figure out how to remove my figures....

Click the "My Account" link. Click the "My Uploads" tab. Select anything you wanna delete and chose "Edit". There will be a button down at the bottom of all the info to delete it.

Laurie

Oh, good.  Thanks.

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Ah, I see what's going on. My figures were uploaded under another user name that I've lost the password to. That's why there is no "my uploads" button.

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I'm moving my stuff here also...

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since the "one stop shop" for freebies seems to be falling apart, how about a sticky thread for peoples freebie sites

Mine is always in my sig ;)

Laurie

just posted on sharecg, lets see if the mods allow it lol................

Personaly I find the open letter insulting. Insulting our intelligence that a few hundred members have complained about a few banner ads so now we all have to pay for the privilege of giving stuff away that actually generates the traffic here anyway. Be honest, tell us your long term plan of setting up another 3d stuff market place with 40% commission rates. Why do people come here?
Because it’s FREE. I have removed all my free stuff already, I would hate to have it left here for people to download if I had no access to it. I mean don’t tell me that if people don’t pay the 10 bucks you will delete their stuff for them. That does raise a question, if people refuse to pay the fee can you legally offer their property for download? People do yourselves a favour, email sharecg and tell them that if you don’t wish to pay sharecg must remove your content as they have no right to offer it for download on the site, and keep a copy.

 

Heddheld  great idea .............since the "one stop shop" for freebies seems to be falling apart, how about a sticky thread for peoples freebie sites

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A sticky thread for individual freebie sites sounds like a great idea

 

Ditto on the sticky.  I've got a website that pretty much atrophied when ShareCG came along.  Might be worth my trouble to move stuff back there and keep it organized, but only if a central database is available for freebie sites. 

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Quote - A sticky thread for individual freebie sites sounds like a great idea

I would agree, BUT with the inability to Edit the main post (or any post after a small amount of time), you would be wading through pages and pages of links, some good, some old and dead, with no chance of cleaning it up.

The ability to edit posts is why threads like Kerya's Free Hair list is sooooo awesome.  (not to mention Kerya keeping the main post updated, which is great!)

Maybe something to consider for the Forum management?

I'm seeing a lot of knee jerk, and little real thought.  No matter where something is stored, there are two things that either exist or they don't.  One is bandwidth, the other is space on a storage device of some kind.  Neither are free for anyone, somewhere along the line, someone is paying for both. 

BB mentions Google sites are free, okay, free as long as someone is able to pay for them one way or another, and nobody can say for how long.  Wade through a list of websites trying to find something?  Be my guest. 

Ten bucks being too much in the poserverse?  About what I paid for daz pc membership until I cut that off.  Per month, not per year.  Go to any of the poser inclusive sites and you can damage your credit card a lot more in a hurry. 

I doubt that many are much different from me, make something interesting to yourself and decide to see if anyone else is interested by the same thing.  But expect completely free space to puit it on?  Thankful that it's been there, yes.  Expect it, no.  Somewhere along the line it has to be paid for or it won't exist. 

And on the daz forums, I've seen people whining about putting things up, then taking down everything they had, the general excuse I read is not enough ego strokes.  Now complaining that they might have to pay to get the ego strokes.  TANSTAAFL.

 

D.

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I've used 4shared for years for my freebies, and never paid one cent.

There are plenty of places to offer freebeis, and many places that have free "locker" space for files you can use for file redistribution.

 

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Content generates traffic. Ideally traffic should generate revenue. I'm sorry it's not working for shareCG.

There's no free lunch. If you want people to hit your site, there has to be content. You can either pay for the content, or convince those creating it that the server space and bandwidth is payment enough. Maybe you can even convince them to pay for that too. Probably not, though, since there are still plenty of "free" options including Renderosity, which could well become the one stop shop for Poser freebies.

This has nothing to do with an expectation of free space. It has to do with the reality of free space and the fact that freebies are valued by some sites and not by others.

As for ego strokes or lack thereof earned by distributing your freebies, mileage may vary. I just don't like a rating system that people can game or troll with.

 

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Quote - I'm seeing a lot of knee jerk, and little real thought.  No matter where something is stored, there are two things that either exist or they don't.  One is bandwidth, the other is space on a storage device of some kind.  Neither are free for anyone, somewhere along the line, someone is paying for both. 

BB mentions Google sites are free, okay, free as long as someone is able to pay for them one way or another, and nobody can say for how long.  Wade through a list of websites trying to find something?  Be my guest. 

Ten bucks being too much in the poserverse?  About what I paid for daz pc membership until I cut that off.  Per month, not per year.  Go to any of the poser inclusive sites and you can damage your credit card a lot more in a hurry. 

I doubt that many are much different from me, make something interesting to yourself and decide to see if anyone else is interested by the same thing.  But expect completely free space to puit it on?  Thankful that it's been there, yes.  Expect it, no.  Somewhere along the line it has to be paid for or it won't exist. 

And on the daz forums, I've seen people whining about putting things up, then taking down everything they had, the general excuse I read is not enough ego strokes.  Now complaining that they might have to pay to get the ego strokes.  TANSTAAFL.

 

D.

This post and the condescending attitude really gets up my nose.  Don't presume to know - or even understand - my motivations for posting freebies and don't make assumptions about how much a person can afford.  My finances are so tight that it's touch and go whether I have internet access from month to month, let alone paying someone to host my stuff.  If it comes to a straight choice between feeding my kids and paying for hosting - and yes, money really is that tight - the kids win, hands down. 

I don't care about "ego strokes".  I do care about spending $10 on something I can do without, when I have a very limited income.  Renderosity offers free space for freestuff, so why do I need to pay ShareCG for the privelege? 

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a sticky ?  you mean there isn';t one ?  headdesk   :lol:

Quote - I'm seeing a lot of knee jerk, and little real thought.  No matter where something is stored, there are two things that either exist or they don't.  One is bandwidth, the other is space on a storage device of some kind.  Neither are free for anyone, somewhere along the line, someone is paying for both. 

BB mentions Google sites are free, okay, free as long as someone is able to pay for them one way or another, and nobody can say for how long.  Wade through a list of websites trying to find something?  Be my guest. 

Ten bucks being too much in the poserverse?  About what I paid for daz pc membership until I cut that off.  Per month, not per year.  Go to any of the poser inclusive sites and you can damage your credit card a lot more in a hurry. 

I doubt that many are much different from me, make something interesting to yourself and decide to see if anyone else is interested by the same thing.  But expect completely free space to puit it on?  Thankful that it's been there, yes.  Expect it, no.  Somewhere along the line it has to be paid for or it won't exist. 

And on the daz forums, I've seen people whining about putting things up, then taking down everything they had, the general excuse I read is not enough ego strokes.  Now complaining that they might have to pay to get the ego strokes.  TANSTAAFL.

 

D.

 

ego strokes? i'm not sure what you mean? do you perchance imply that freestuff contributors do it for the glory and laurel leaves that abound their inflated ego brows?

i wonder how much freestuff this particular contributor has in their runtime without questioning who hosted it, or how was it paid for. Sir, you insult freestuff contributors and I for one cast a pox upon your house  

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i wonder how much freestuff this particular contributor has in their runtime without questioning who hosted it, or how was it paid for. Sir, you insult freestuff contributors and I for one cast a pox upon your house  

To answer your first, don't wonder, I have quite a bit of free stuff in my runtime.  Now if you ask how much of it I use, that would get a different answer.  Most of it clothing, and most of that "Why in hell did I download this?".  However, since I became a "lifer" at PoserWorld, that doesn't happen often anymore, I just load the disk in and go get what I need. As far as I'm concerned, that became free stuff a long time ago, and I still don't download everything they  put up, not interested, I don't bother.

To Samtherapy, I have one daughter.  However, she's any parent's nightmare.  Multiple, debilitating, life threatening birth defects.  I know all about the costs of raising children on a given income, which wasn't always that good.  When she was 35, I was forced to put her in a nursing home, she's now 42.  If, by any chance I have to again try to care for her here at home, I'm bankrupt within six months.

And I think I have about the best attitude about putting up  a freebie.  "I got what I need, if it doesn't fit what you need, don't bother telling me because I don't care.  If it does and you leave a comment, I may acknowledge it, or I may not." 

And, as I haven't bothered to back up my own stuff, if I lose my HD, I'm gonna be awful thankful for shareCG.  If ShareCG has to go to subscription to keep the site alive, so be it.  TANSTAAFL.

D.

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is poser wiki still going ?  I could probabaly write something to check and clean up a site list , perhaps just move from active to inactive ?

 

as for ego stroking freestuff makers- cut rant - it just does not happen.

 

as for $10 is a tiny amount, for some it is , for me its one months supply of a heart medication that keeps me alive. My drug bill and doctors visits cost me about $500 a month.  Since my income is $0 that leaves a big hole.

 

If you think $10 is trivial I will be happy to take it off your hands ;-)

 

 

 

 

And, as I haven't bothered to back up my own stuff, if I lose my HD, I'm gonna be awful thankful for shareCG.  If ShareCG has to go to subscription to keep the site alive, so be it.  TANSTAAFL.

• You should think again. If ShareCG goes to a subscription, the free lunch is off the menu since most uploaders aren’t going to pay to keep their content on that site. I feel no compulsion to pay for the pleasure of having thousands of digital packrats store my stuff on their drive and never use it.

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Quote - I think that devianART also offers the option to upload free stuff on user's gallery

Deviant art does indeed allow this.  

I think they could offer people the 'option' of having their page bannerless with paying a small fee, but not make it mandantory, that might be a better solution.

 

Quote - And, as I haven't bothered to back up my own stuff, if I lose my HD, I'm gonna be awful thankful for shareCG.  If ShareCG has to go to subscription to keep the site alive, so be it.  TANSTAAFL.

• You should think again. If ShareCG goes to a subscription, the free lunch is off the menu since most uploaders aren’t going to pay to keep their content on that site. I feel no compulsion to pay for the pleasure of having thousands of digital packrats store my stuff on their drive and never use it.

Hmm. Methinks I just said, or perhaps I wasn't clear, if they have to go subscription, so be it.  Meaning, to keep the site alive, I can give ten bucks a year and consider it a bargain. 

As things continue to get tight, with both purchases and advertising budgets going down, how long before the other "free" site providers go into the red?  When they do, oh, well. 

If everyone refuses, pulls their stuff and puts it on other sites, the monkey chase of trying to find an item you saw sometime before begins again.  The chances are best that, as you choose to use "most", Most of those items will just disappear rather than showing up on another site.  A lot of other sites will require a log in or sign on, and those sites top my "ignore" list.  I ain't alone there either.

I'll pay if need be, no problem.  For those that would argue I shouldn't, what makes you think my mind is less set in hard, heavy concrete, than your own?

D.

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I have to agree that this letter has created a "knee-jerk" reaction. Some responses sound like the person has been personally attacked by the suggestion a site may have to charge money or disappear.  It might be worth it before spilling poison in the waters to ask ShareCG to clarify some of the points of contention that have arisen, such as Will creators have to pay to upload freebies?

Before reacting, it might be helpful to get all the information one needs to make an informed decision about whether or not they will chose to pay or whether or not to continue hosting products at the site.

Some things to consider:

Having a centralized freebie site is extremely useful. (Having to dig around all over the place for freebies at sites my computer may not like is essentially time wasting. Time which could be better used in creation).

Do you as a freebie provider have the time (and the know-how) to keep a site up to date and running? What happens when your provider (and it will happen) decides to charge you for your usage?

Is it really a good idea to let good sites wither away due to lack of support so that we are eventually left with only a minimum of choices which will eventually limit creativity? Do you really want only 4 or 5 comprehensive sites available when trying to find what you want at a reasonable or free price? Remember, when competion is limited, the big guys are free to charge what the traffic will bear.

New content users have enough problems without putting more obstacles in the way of their creative process. I don't consider $10 a year an obstacle for a site that provides so much. (And, yes, I also have been in the position of having to chose between food and shelter for my children, but I also made sure to provide the things that would help their "soul"--for lack of a better word atm--grow.)

BTW, even altruism stimulates the reward centers of the brain, so while it may not be "ego-stroking," there is an incentive for people giving away their creations that is not 100% selfless.

I was going to say that was my nickel's worth, but I seem to have given a dime. = )

 

What they SHOULD do, is go to a marketplace model and leave the freebies alone. I think they're big enough to make a go of it. That's more palatable than having to pay a subscription to either host your freebies, or, worse yet, pay to download freebies where none of the proceeds go to the freebie creators who brought them there.

Laurie

Quote - What they SHOULD do, is go to a marketplace model and leave the freebies alone. I think they're big enough to make a go of it. That's more palatable than having to pay a subscription to either host your freebies, or, worse yet, pay to download freebies where none of the proceeds go to the freebie creators who brought them there.

Laurie

I agree that they should open up a marketplace. I am hoping that since the ShareCG people hinted that was a possibilty that they will post some more information on their market plans soon.

I would also like to see the freebie area stay free of subscription, but if it doesn't, I am willing to pay $10/year for the good I get out of it. While they haven't said so as of yet (or that I have seen), it seems unlikely that they would shoot themselves in the foot by charging people to upload products. I would also like to see the return of the donation option for providers.

 

By the same token I just really see something unfair about a subscription site that's driven by freebies where the providers get nothing and the site gets everything. I think that may be shooting themselves in the foot ;). An MP would at least help to support the freebies and would very well net them a lot more money than a subscription model would. I just don't see people continuing to upload freebies when they know that the downloaders will be charged to do so and they don't see a penny ;). I'm not being greedy, just logical...lol. I can definitely see resentment rising over that and I don't think it's a good model.

Laurie

What the freebie provider is getting is a place with a lot of traffic to post their products while they build a reputation for good work which will (if that is what they are looking for) lead to being able to market their products. So what they are getting essentially is free advertising.

For those who are looking "to give back to the community," they have the optimum site to do so at ShareCG as it is so well known and provides so much in one place. People do not have to spend hours/days looking all over the Internet trying to find something from a site they might not trust.

For me, being asked to download something from an unknown site is like asking to have someone just come in and blow up my computer.

What I hear you saying is that the freebie provider should get paid for uploading freebies while the MP pays the cost for them to showcase their work and provides the traffic. This seems to be antithetical to the idea of being a freebie provider.

Quote - What I hear you saying is that the freebie provider should get paid for uploading freebies while the MP pays the cost for them to showcase their work and provides the traffic. This seems to be antithetical to the idea of being a freebie provider.

So apparently you didn't really read what I said. Maybe you should reread it. Yanno, I give out LOTS of freebies and I never asked for one red cent and don't intend to. But I see something disgusting about charging someone on the back of a freebie creator and they keep all the money when THAT is their only business model. You better believe I have a problem with that. If they have a subscription model, then offer premium stuff where you give a cut to the vendor making it. Keep the freebies as freebies with no strings.

BTW, I sorta resent that you insinuated that I would be somehow greedy or stingy for not liking the above situation. I don't think I'm alone. I've been giving freebies for 10 years, long before you showed up.

Laurie

Quote - > Quote - What I hear you saying is that the freebie provider should get paid for uploading freebies while the MP pays the cost for them to showcase their work and provides the traffic. This seems to be antithetical to the idea of being a freebie provider.

So apparently you didn't really read what I said. Maybe you should reread it.

Laurie

I read it. I understood it. I stand by what I said.

 

I too don't like the idea of people being charged to get my freebies. I made them free because I want them free. I'd rather be charged to be able to up load them than have people be charged to download them. If they open a MP I might be able to sell a few items to make enough to pay for my subscription. But I want people to get my free stuff for free.

 

On a lighter note, anyone doing a frenzy of downloading to get as mush as you can before they start charging?

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Quote - I too don't like the idea of people being charged to get my freebies. I made them free because I want them free. I'd rather be charged to be able to up load them than have people be charged to download them. If they open a MP I might be able to sell a few items to make enough to pay for my subscription. But I want people to get my free stuff for free.

Exactly ;)

I already back up everything I make but I did download the images. I'll just put my freebies here. So they can STAY free.

Laurie

Laurie, you're either missing the statement, or choosing to ignore it, that sharecg freebies are operating in the red.  I read from what you write, you'd rather see the resource disappear than be asked to help pay for the storage and bandwidth that David has to pay for somehow.  They tried one business model, actually, over the years several of them and they haven't worked.  I would doubt there are many here that haven't used some resource downloaded from Sharecg, and a lot of people use a lot of downloads from there. 

Would it not have been simpler to move your stuff to wherever, removed ShareCG from your tag line, made a quiet announcement in the free stuff forum that you did and let it go at that?  They're not trying to rip anyone, they're trying to stay alive, going about it in what I see as a very reasonable manner.  Asking users of a service to help pay the cost of that service is something I don't see as unreasonable in any way.

D.

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Seems like devolving toward ‘Makers’ vs. ’Takers,’ but I’ve probably been watching too much political news ÷) Some people can easily afford the fee some can’t. I think everyone realizes that, but people can be sensitive if anyone suggests (real or perceived) that it’s trivial or anyone should be able to afford it etc. I’m sure that isn’t the intent. I don’t think anyone is saying that they’d rather see Rome burn than pee on the embers either. Apparently ShareCG’s economic plan isn’t working. That’s too bad. Whether the subscription thing will work, I don’t know. Given that the 3D thing isn’t a necessity for me, and that I have too much stuff I haven’t ever used, I won’t be joining in. I’ve found some very nice things there, like RedViper’s clothing) that I would regret having missed, but such is life.

Setting up a store system would cost initially and I don’t know how long it would take for it to generate enough revenue to offset their deficit. My personal wish would be a limited free account – limited storage and downloads with banner ads. I go there seldom enough that something like that would work for me, for others not so much I’m sure. People could try to cheat with multiple accounts of course. Maybe they could grandfather in existing members only. I don’t know. There ain’t no perfect solution. I hope they do well with whatever they come up with. Someone like Trimble (née Google) 3D Warehouse, can afford the freight for maintaining free downloads. It would be nice if the big players in Poserland would join forces and … oh never mind ÷)

As for organizing freebie links … well we have the freestuff forum here, but the format isn’t ideal (no edits as mentioned) etc. A good central listing with link checking, the ability to add comments and images etc. would be wonderful, whatever happens to ShareCG. Again, this is something that certain entities might be able to do if so inclined.

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." - H. L. Mencken

Quote - Kez is on sharecg.  i hope she comes here.

Kez is now hosted on English Bob's Morphography website. So, she's as safe as any of us for the moment. Did you know she has a new Country and Western outfit? Just put up within the last couple of days.

Quote - they won't charge IMVHO.  they know it's a lose-lose situation.  YMMV

 

Miss N I caught wind of this over at FB. So I sent ShareCG a mail asking them if they were or if it was just a rumor using their "contact us" system. 

 

I got a reply back from someone named David over there, who said yes they are going to start charging around .80 cents USD per day. Or roughtly ten dollars for a year of ad free membership there.

 

Now I"m with Lesbently on that one. It's just too crazy to ask me to pay, for the honor of giving away my work for free. 

 

So that said, I was going to set something up to replace what we will be losing at sharecg, if someone is interested in partnering with me too set something up. 

 

By partnering I mean I need someone with the tech know how to help me in putting up and then admin a site, I'll foot all the costs of a domain name etc....I just need some help with the tech know how, since the last time I had my own website geocities was still around and it was built using geocities in fact. ;)

 

P.S. If you'd be willing to help with the tech know how pm me here. Thanks D

"The Blood is the life!"

 

I see someone speaking that either has tons of money to give to us, or hasn't looked into web hosting costs yet.  The free sites aren't as free, in what you can put in it, in byte count (storage) and bandwidth.  Up to a point, yes, then it's free as long as you can tolerate the advertising.  Beyond that point, it gets expensive fast.

I have no idea what the byte count in either storage or bandwidth of ShareCG is, only that it has to be huge on both counts.  It would not surprise me to learn that ShareCG is in the terrabytes, although I don't really know. 

If you believe you can pull it off, kudos and more power to you.  My own thoughts would be that in maybe a year, the same plea, "We're in the red!  Help!" will be heard.  The web ain't free, it isn't even cheap.

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

From the OTHER site, a note from David at ShareCG:

We'll be announcing our road-map on the blog and
directly to users who have items uploaded on the site, next Monday.
Basically we will be giving all users the option to pay and not see any
advertisements or not pay and see advertisements. There's more to this
scenario, but this is the basic concept. Essentially if you don't want
to pay you will experience the site as you have been experiencing it
with no change.

There's more detail that you'll see on Monday, but by giving all users
these options they can decide for themselves how they want to experience
the site.

 

Now aren't you all glad you didn't panic.

sharecg has done this before and it makes people very nervous about the long term viability of a site. If thats what they do it easy enough to reupload my stuff.   I am a bit miffed that I didnt get any emails from sharecg about this whole thing.  

Quote - sharecg has done this before and it makes people very nervous about the long term viability of a site. If thats what they do it easy enough to reupload my stuff.   I am a bit miffed that I didnt get any emails from sharecg about this whole thing.  

Really? I have been a long time user of ShareCG and have had freebies there for a couple of years now, and this is the first time I have ever seen something like this.

 

Woot! The Make a Donation to the freebie contibutor is back up! Yay!

 

I didn't panic. My stuff is still there, like it has been ;)

Laurie

Fwiw the email I recieved was not just sent out en mass I only got it because I had made a specific inquiry. 

 

There are two things that turns me off about this deal.

 

Number one, the cavalier attitude I was given (you'd understand if I posted the email here which I won't do) 

 

And then there's this. Way way way back when the place first started, we were all supposed to share in revenues generated by ads there. I like many others never saw one red dime of the money we'd earned under that "concept" or system if you will.

This latest as far as I see it, is just adding another further insult to what remained as some bad feelings of being "used" so to speak from that original deal.

And again I'm sorry but it's crazy to ask me to pay person A, so I can then give away my intellectual property to person B for free.

 

That is not usually how anyone of these brokerages work ya know lol.

 

So I'll just see if I can't get us all an alternative together somehow someplace.

 

Wish me luck. As over the next few days I look at what I have been suggested and what I can find.

 

Oh and um mods/admins I'm not sure if this OT subject is alright to discuss. IF I am breaking the tos by asking for the assistance I asked for, to start up a new freebie place. Please remove these posts immediately and let me know so I won't do it again in the future. 

 

D 

 

 

"The Blood is the life!"

 

Quote -  And then there's this. Way way way back when the place first started, we were all supposed to share in revenues generated by ads there. I like many others never saw one red dime of the money we'd earned under that "concept" or system if you will.

 

 

Revenues from the ads did not cover the cost of running the site. How can payment be expected from no profit--10% of nothing is nothing, after all.

Why not post your "freebies" in a market if you are expecting to get paid for them?

 

 

Quote - From the OTHER site, a note from David at ShareCG:

We'll be announcing our road-map on the blog and
directly to users who have items uploaded on the site, next Monday.
Basically we will be giving all users the option to pay and not see any
advertisements or not pay and see advertisements. There's more to this
scenario, but this is the basic concept. Essentially if you don't want
to pay you will experience the site as you have been experiencing it
with no change.

There's more detail that you'll see on Monday, but by giving all users
these options they can decide for themselves how they want to experience
the site.

 

Now aren't you all glad you didn't panic.

 

Where abouts did you see this? Just curious.

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Check out my store here or my free stuff here
I use Poser 13 and win 10

I sent the link to you.

 

Quote - Laurie, you're either missing the statement, or choosing to ignore it, that sharecg freebies are operating in the red.

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Not to sound harsh, but that's their problem not mine. Somehow I don't think they'd pay me if I was unable to pay for a website and had to close it. It's one of those "that's the way the cookie crumbles" moments. While I appreciated it's existence, I am not responsible for it's continued existence. It's rough for everyone right now in this economic climate - obviously for them as well. I expect we'll see more sites disappear before it's all said and done. Whatever they end up doing, I wish them luck. I'm not giving them the finger because they want to make me pay. I'll just migrate to a site that won't charge me - I made my freebies to be free, but they also have to be free for me to give. I just can't afford otherwise.

I will post my freebies here. It's not a huge deal.

Laurie

So there are differences in viewpoint, Laurie.  "Not your problem", true, from your viewpoint.  My viewpoint, it's a resource we're in danger of losing, yet again. 

That the models are free doesn't necessarily mean the service to provide them has to be.  And, if I understand correctly, the only difference is that the advertising will go away for subscribers.  Ten bucks go make the slow loading advertising go away, I'm in.

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

Doesn't anybody use an ad blocker? 

 

All they had to do was make it ad free and free for anybody who

contribues models, but charge the $10 annual fee for people

who only download other's stuff. 

 

(face:palm)!

 

I think ad blockers were probably the reason they didn't make money from them in the first place ;).

Laurie

If anybody is interested, I have uploaded most of my free textures here ;

http://www.pfddelights.com/index.php?board=18.0

Odd ...

I try to upload a new freebie and get the usual screen minus the space where you link to your zip file. Result : actually I can't upload anything. A bug or something else going on ?

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Quote - Everybody has access to my freebies and it doesn't cost me or you a cent.

Just sayin.

(Psst - Google web sites are free.)

(Psst - Even Google App Engine is free until you have enough traffic that you could actually make money. That means you can run apps in the cloud for nothin.)

 

Yep, There are also free web hosting services.  000webhost, awardspace.com, zymic.com to name a few.  My website is being hosted for free.

www.acrionx.com | My Freebies | My Store | My Youtube Channel

The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to say just let em burn.

They really offer no service or benefit other than a place for people to store freebies, and blantantly making money off the generosity of others just kinda rubs me raw.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to say just let em burn.

And at the same time, prove either you choose not to read, or can't comprehend what you did read, if you did.  NOW HEAR THIS!  If one goes to DAZ commons and finds the thread on the same subject, there is an email posted from David, who is the CEO of the company owning and operating ShareCG.  If you read it very, very carefully, it states:

If you choose not to pay, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.  If you DON'T  LIKE THE ADS that are already there, pay the ten bucks.

And I'm certain, Garree, you'll be positively thrilled to know, I have nothing of yours in my runtime.  Re read the "Let'em burn".

I think the thread is "ShareCG in trouble" or something like that, top of page 7.

 

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

To make it even more ridiculous, that same email is reposted in the sixth post down on THIS page.  Let's put the wild speculation and paranoia  away until OFFICIAL word comes from ShareCG.

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

The letter:

http://www10.sharecg.com/blogs/david-heller/2012/09/23/an-open-letter-from-the-founder-of-sharecg

should be worded more carefully, PXXX because that's not what it says.

Quote - We are considering changing the ShareCG business model from banner ads to a subscription model.

It does not say adding to the business model to allow people to opt out of banner ads. It seems totally reasonable to interpret that it says everybody pays, including submitters. If he wants people to understand something other than what it says, it should not say what it says.

Then it goes on to talk about a bunch of "facebook"-like stuff that, frankly, I can't get interested in. I think the Rendo freebie search engine is good enough, and if I could be the slightest bit bothered to actually put my stuff in a search engine, it would be here.

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Quote - They really offer no service or benefit other than a place for people to store freebies,

Apparantly, you have never been a newbie on a budget and/or do not appreciate the many wonderful items that contributors post and/or enjoy spending hours of creaative time searching the Internet for a free item that would be "just perfect" for a project/render.

How nice for you!

 

Oh - and if you go to Google and search, for example "free Poser shaders" - my Google site is the third result. Hmmm - that works pretty well.

Of course, maybe Google is scamming me by showing me my own site so high up. Perhaps that isn't what you guys see.

Sharecg doesn't show up in Google results until page 4. Weak. No wonder they can't get people to see the ads.

 

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Quote - > Quote - They really offer no service or benefit other than a place for people to store freebies,

Apparantly, you have never been a newbie on a budget and/or do not appreciate the many wonderful items that contributors post and/or enjoy spending hours of creaative time searching the Internet for a free item that would be "just perfect" for a project/render.

How nice for you!

Yes I have been. And I maintain that there are more gigs and gigs of freebies out there that are VERY easy to locate without sharecg.

Should they go down, the only thing you loose is what is actually stored there. But there are thousands of freebies hosted on hindereds of websites. its really not that big a deal if they closed doors tomorrow.

Use google and search, its REALLY easy, and the vast majority of freebies are NOT at sharecg, but are at other sites anyway.

I've created and released many freebies as well, and I've done it to help others out, or provide something not available elsewhere. Why should I allow someone else to make money off something I've created and given to others for free?

 

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - Yes I have been. And I maintain that there are more gigs and gigs of freebies out there that are VERY easy to locate without sharecg.

Should they go down, the only thing you loose is what is actually stored there. But there are thousands of freebies hosted on hindereds of websites. its really not that big a deal if they closed doors tomorrow.

Use google and search, its REALLY easy, and the vast majority of freebies are NOT at sharecg, but are at other sites anyway.

I've created and released many freebies as well, and I've done it to help others out, or provide something not available elsewhere. Why should I allow someone else to make money off something I've created and given to others for free?

 

How is it making money off other people's work when the entire cost of the site (from what I understand over $1000/month) is paid by the owner? Where is the profit in that? As has been noted, the $10/year will only be for those who want an ad-free view. ALL others will still be free. I am guessing that there will be other perks for subscribers. We won't know until Monday what those are.

Yes, there are hundreds of sites avaialbe, but why should I spend my creative time searching all of them while possibly endangering my computer  to still not come up with want I am looking for?

I think it would be more in the vein of "to help others out" to not require them to visit in some cases poorly designed sites, sites that may contain viscious code, that contain many broken links, etc. in order to find what most times can be found very easily at ShareCG.

 

Quote - > Quote - The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to say just let em burn.

And at the same time, prove either you choose not to read, or can't comprehend what you did read, if you did.  NOW HEAR THIS!  If one goes to DAZ commons and finds the thread on the same subject, there is an email posted from David, who is the CEO of the company owning and operating ShareCG.  If you read it very, very carefully, it states:

If you choose not to pay, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.  If you DON'T  LIKE THE ADS that are already there, pay the ten bucks.

And I'm certain, Garree, you'll be positively thrilled to know, I have nothing of yours in my runtime.  Re read the "Let'em burn".

I think the thread is "ShareCG in trouble" or something like that, top of page 7.

 D.

I was speaking about the original open letter detailing their intent. Obviously you aren't even considering the history of the site either.

Originally, the "carrot" to host your freebies there was that you'd be paid on ad revenue. So they get a bunch of content FREE to use to get money from ad banners.

Ad banners supposedly never paid off, so no one ever was paid a dime. BUT they still got money from advertisers.

Now they want to charge members to get content which they've obtained for FREE. And the point? To make the site commercially profitable. On Other people's work. Which they have available and cost them nothing at all to obtain.

I don't care whatever updates or clarification they've made. the bottom line it originally, they were going to compensate people to build a catalog there, and the reality is they never did.

I didn't create my freebies so someone else can make money on them. I created them to give back to the community, and I can host my free items at more places than I can even count. Places that do not intend to make money redistributing my content creations.

And as far as the snipe about not owning any of my products, fine. Your are obviously a jerk, and I'm glad you haven't bought any of them, because you don't deserve to own the very reasonably priced items I've created over the years.

I hope you also don't have any of the content I've worked on and sold to DAZ since you hate me so much for not wanting someone else to profit from MY work without compensating me for it. Or any of the freebies I've released as well, since you don't support who do provide free items for people to enjoy.

How can you justify someone else taking something you've created, not giving you anything at all for taking it, and then turning around to make money on it?

Please tell me what they actually offer that you cannot obtain on the web, other than other people's work they store there, and why if they vaporized tomorrow the world would end.

I see no reason at all to support them any longer, since I can store free digital content at a million places.

 

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - Use google and search, its REALLY easy, and the vast majority of freebies are NOT at sharecg, but are at other sites anyway.

I've created and released many freebies as well, and I've done it to help others out, or provide something not available elsewhere. Why should I allow someone else to make money off something I've created and given to others for free?

 

Um, yaass.  Use Google and go to a hundred different sites with "Now where did I see that?" probably never finding what you were looking for.  Spend a day or two on line, when I could spend four or five hours with Wings and make the damned thing myself.

(Part two) How about, because a lot of us choose not to have a site of our own and the headaches of maintaining it when it's just as easy to put it on ShareCG.  Then explain why anyone feels they're giving something away, and someone else should pay the cost of hosting it.  Why should David pay the cost of hosting everyone else?  Are you ready to step in and offer that if he goes down?  I think to even suggest you did that would be insulting to you.

Let's leave the paranoia somewhere else, this is getting blatantly ridiculous.

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

I didn't create my freebies so someone else can make money on them.

How can you justify someone else taking something you've created, not giving you anything at all for taking it, and then turning around to make money on it?

 

I take it then that all of your freebies are for non-commercial use only.

 

Quote - How about, because a lot of us choose not to have a site of our own and the headaches of maintaining it when it's just as easy to put it on ShareCG. 

I'm fine with the discussion, but I'd like to point out this is posturing and not the least bit true.

I post my freebies on my own site, because it is absolutely trivial. It is way easier than uploading to any of the freebie engines or sites. If I want to replace a zip file with an update, I don't have to fill out any forms. If I want to edit the text and include pictures where and how I want, I have a WYSIWYG editor in Google sites.

As for maintaining, that's a myth or something. I don't maintain anything. If I died today, you would have zero evidence of it from going to my site. It requires no involvement to maintain.

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Quote - How is it making money off other people's work when the entire cost of the site (from what I understand over $1000/month) is paid by the owner? Where is the profit in that? As has been noted, the $10/year will only be for those who want an ad-free view. ALL others will still be free. I am guessing that there will be other perks for subscribers. We won't know until Monday what those are. Yes, there are hundreds of sites avaialbe, but why should I spend my creative time searching all of them while possibly endangering my computer  to still not come up with want I am looking for?

I think it would be more in the vein of "to help others out" to not require them to visit in some cases poorly designed sites, sites that may contain viscious code, that contain many broken links, etc. in order to find what most times can be found very easily at ShareCG.

Just because its been a bad business model does not mean it isn't a business. And what IS a business? A company that provides goods or services for money.

Look at thier future plans:

We are considering changing the ShareCG business model from banner ads to a subscription model. I am proposing that members subscribe at just $9.99 a year for a banner free ShareCG that will have the resources to add services that will make the site a better place to visit and that will bring the community closer together. We have a number of projects planned and ready to go that will:

• Add ‘Friends’ to bring true social media and collaboration to the site

*So this doesn't sound like facebook or deviant art at all? Commercial websites. Worth millions of dollars.  *

• Add the ability for you to sell your creations like 3D Models and Poser and DAZ assets directly from ShareCG.

And this doesn't sound like they are wanting to turn a profit either? I'm sure they will allow people to sell products there for free, and not take a percantage like other content brokers like Rendo or Daz.

People are acting like Sharecg is a huge charity, and the the only one of its kind on the web, when in fact it IS a buisness (even if run poorly) and does hope to profit off the generosity of other people's hard work without compensating them for it.

And is only one of hundereds of places to provide online storage for digital items.

They aren't feeding or sheltering the homeless. They are just a business trying to make money off content they've obtained for free from the generosity of others.

Look for GareeeMoo over there.. you'll notice I have some of my freebies there. I also have many at 4shared, and other places as well.

 

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote -

I didn't create my freebies so someone else can make money on them.

How can you justify someone else taking something you've created, not giving you anything at all for taking it, and then turning around to make money on it?

 

I take it then that all of your freebies are for non-commercial use only.

 

My freebies have no restrictions on use what so ever, other then trying to sell it to others, and they neve rhave had any restrictions at all.

Some are just my way of saying "thank you" to people who HAVE bought my products, giving them some more value for their hard earned money. I didn't need to make them, but wanted to thank everyone who does support my work.

 

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - I don't care whatever updates or clarification they've made. the bottom line it originally, they were going to compensate people to build a catalog there, and the reality is they never did.

 

And as far as the snipe about not owning any of my products, fine. Your are obviously a jerk, and I'm glad you haven't bought any of them, because you don't deserve to own the very reasonably priced items I've created over the years.

(Part one) "Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up."

(Part two) Because your interests and products are far different from mine.  But rather than considering there might be a legitimate reason I don't have any of your work, you'd rather jump to the hate conclusion.  But the shoe on the other foot doesn't seem to fit too well. 

Yes,your prices are reasonable, until you consider that none of your product fits in with my ideas, at which time they become far too expensive.  Others may have a different opinion.

I'm not looking at what they did in the past, only what they're proposing now.  I'm willing to pay the ten bucks a year to get rid of the advertising, that's cheap.  The other things mentioned, the social media thing, not interested in any social media.  Marketplace, maybe, if anyone can put up things I might be interested in.  But until tomorrow, this is all "I saw a price and I'm against it no matter what it said."  At least someone was interested enough to request a clarification, it would be nice if more peope would be interested enough to read the damned thing.

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

Yeah, this doesn't look like a slight directed towards me at ALL:

"And I'm certain, Garree, you'll be positively thrilled to know, I have nothing of yours in my runtime. Re read the "Let'em burn"."

And who is blinding themselves to facts?

"I'm not looking at what they did in the past, only what they're proposing now. "

So, I guess if they killed puppies, that would be ok because you like what they are doing now?

And just because they realized they had a huge backlash on their hands, and reversed direction as damage control doesn't mean I need to swallow the propoganda.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Quote - So, I guess if they killed puppies, that would be ok because you like what they are doing now?

And just because they realized they had a huge backlash on their hands, and reversed direction as damage control doesn't mean I need to swallow the propoganda.

 

Now there is some loaded rhetoric! As Americans (don't know about the rest of the world) have no problem it seems with companies who kill animals for the testing of products (e.g. make-up) and are planning to use humans to test genetically modified foods, this arguement falls a bit flat.

Meanwhile, in reading several other forums and blogs, this is the only one that has a majority of negative comments. Others have shown themselves to be much more open to this idea, so I don't think it is "backlash." I think the original letter was just poorly worded.

Quote - Yeah, this doesn't look like a slight directed towards me at ALL:

"And I'm certain, Garree, you'll be positively thrilled to know, I have nothing of yours in my runtime. Re read the "Let'em burn"."

Isn't it amazing how bad the shoe you created feels when it's on your own foot? 

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

[quote

Meanwhile, in reading several other forums and blogs, this is the only one that has a majority of negative comments. Others have shown themselves to be much more open to this idea, so I don't think it is "backlash." I think the original letter was just poorly worded.

Well said.

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

Keep this on topic please. I'm not really seeing what personal attacks have anything to do with ShareCG. If you don't have something constructive to add to the post, don't post.

Thanks guys.

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.::That which does not kill us makes us stronger::.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche

ShareCG is a business. It is an unsucessful business, (at least not sucessful enough for the owner's liking), yet it has existed for many years. I don't believe it could have lasted as long as it did if it was taking a loss the whole time.

Some people are misplacing a sense of gratitude that should be directed at the free stuff creators. ShareCG doesn't give you free stuff. The creators do. ShareCG has made its living on free stuff. 

Download my free stuff here: http://www.renderosity.com/homepage.php?page=2&userid=323368

I just love how they deleted my comment after it was approved which wasn't really that bad in the first place, but more of a trying to help out tone, considering it was heartfelt and I have posted there frequently my creations no matter how good or horrid they were.

What I don't get is they expect you to pay for a site which yeilds poor search results, amongst other standing issues since it's inception. 

So basically they are gonna charge under the disguise of ad free banners to upload or download freebies... Now 10 bucks a year isn't much in most cases, and in which if the site was better run, I probably wouldn't have a problem with it, to help support it. But this is a joke, no, this is slapstick comedy. Specifically if you can download alot of the freebies that are posted there on much more established sites, without having to pay a yearly fee. Did they not think of that, or is exclusivity in the "buisness model" which hasn't been disclosed yet.

Pretty much I was gonna wait and see where this went, especially with the storefront idea looming. But one small action speaks louder than a thousand empty words.

oh well, so be it, good luck on that...

Sigh Once more . . .

Hi .... We'll be announcing our road-map on the blog and
directly to users who have items uploaded on the site, next Monday.
Basically we will be giving all users the option to pay and not see any
advertisements or not pay and see advertisements. There's more to this
scenario, but this is the basic concept. Essentially if you don't want
to pay you will experience the site as you have been experiencing it
with no change.

There's more detail that you'll see on Monday, but by giving all users
these options they can decide for themselves how they want to experience
the site.

Cheers,

David
ShareCG Admin

 

Ok so that is sorted out. About the "experiance" of SCG. Good to know others have that option.

Quote - Oh - and if you go to Google and search, for example "free Poser shaders" - my Google site is the third result. Hmmm - that works pretty well.

Of course, maybe Google is scamming me by showing me my own site so high up. Perhaps that isn't what you guys see.

Sharecg doesn't show up in Google results until page 4. Weak. No wonder they can't get people to see the ads.

BB, your Bagginsbill freebie site comes up second on the list for me on Google, searching on "Free Poser Shaders", and that's me signed out of my Google account... so there shouldn't be any user profiling based bias... I don't think. Unless their cookies persisted in some form... I couldn't be bothered checking that.

Hmmm.... I'm wondering how much the fact it is a Google Sites hosted site might help your ranking? He he. Anyway...

Typing "Free Poser Models" into Google... I'm not seeing sharecg anywhere in the list until page 11. Are other people getting similar?

Based on that, I'd have thought that they really need to work on their SEO, apart from anything else... if they're after advertiser revenue???

I suppose I managed to find it somehow. But not sure exactly how. I think it was possibly linked to from an item indexed in Rendo's freestuff catalogue.

Maybe it does better on more precise search terms. But the Google robots will largely only have the published meta tags etc from the sharecg internal indexing system, to go on there?

I use sharecg quite a bit as a downloader and I wouldn't otherwise knock it, myself. Indeed I very much appreciate it being there.

But, I wouldn't pay to use it, whilst there are other free to use freestuff sites... and I probably always come to look at the Rendo freestuff section first too, anyway...

Well, that's my tuppence worth shoehorned in... don't know how typical an end-user I am... but I kind of suspect I'm fairly typical, in a lot of ways...

And in amusing related news, 4shared just announced they are "going social" as well.

http://blog.4shared.com/4shared-social/

So, when does Rendo add social facebook and twitter sharing? ;)

 

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Rendo is already Facebook integrated for Marketplace products... and hooked up to various sharing services for the Galleries, it seems...

So I guess adding social integration to the Free Stuff listings will just be down to a matter of priority (and demand)?

I wouldn't mind it...all my real contacts are on fb.

Way too many people take way too many things way too seriously.

Interesting!!! I've also got a upload page with no upload section any more???

All the best.

LROG

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Thank you David for the update.  And what Kimberly said.  Lets keep this informational and not personal.  

...... Kendra

David has his update posted now.  It should put all the paranoia to rest.

 

D.

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I echo the sentiments of others. I'm not so keen on putting a lot of elbow grease into freebies so that someone else can make money off them. I do have a fair chunk of items there. It irks me that those supplying the content for their site have to pay to add value to the ShareCG site. Um, doesn't something seem a bit amiss here? :glare:

When I have time, I'll likely move my freebies here or to my own website. Yet based on the latest post by them, it sounds like we can go on in status-quo mode for a while.

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No, I do not see anything amiss with this plan. Those who chose to pay are getting value-added. That is no ads (this is huge for me), social networks for those who want them (not me) and the ability to sell products through the site (always looking for new markets). In addition, there appears to be more planned for the future.

Those who chose not to pay will continue business as usual.

I did not hear this much complaining (not directed at anyone in particular) when Rendo decided to create a subscription program for Prime products. In that case, established vendors take a hit on what they are paid, and Rendo makes a great deal off of subscriptions as well as sales.

The owners of ShareCg provide traffic and a venue for new freebie contributors to showcase their work while learning their craft.

For those contributors who are looking to give back to the community from which they have received freebies, advice and technical support having someone else host their products gives them more time to pursue their creative endeavors.

Exactly why should the ShareCG owners shoulder the entire cost of this buisness? Do you know of ANY business that runs for the shear joy of giving their money away? (Please do not count philanthropists...they get a huge tax deduction among other things.)

 

Quote - Do you know of ANY business that runs for the shear joy of giving their money away? (Please do not count philanthropists...they get a huge tax deduction among other things.)

This could be an argument against content creators distributing free content at all or simply hosting their freebies at a site where they sold products (e.g. RMP Free Stuff).  

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I highly doubt that many content creators are incorporated or have the high overhead of running an Internet business. I also said "money" not content. You cannot give your Internet provider a texture for a V4 dress to pay the cost of hosting your business.

There are a lot of content creators who do not sell their products at Rendo. While there are a lot of vendor sites that host freebies, most do not have the name recognition (or traffic--I heard in here somewhere that ShareCG gets around 50,000 hits a day) of ShareCG.

I would be interested down the road to hear from those who chose to move their freebies to other sites, how their download numbers stack up against when they were at ShareCG.

 

Quote - Exactly why should the ShareCG owners shoulder the entire cost of this buisness?

  I think there's an underestimation of how much money ShareCG is making off ad revenue. I would imagine it's not as much as they would like but I don't believe that it's a losing proposition. When they were doing ad sharing with content vendors, I made some dough off that (fair-and-square, I might add). I feel sure that was a tiny morsel of the total revenue received by them. 

Here's how this feels "amiss" to me. Imagine if a large newspaper, magazine or other content aggregator said to their writers, "Hey, you can write articles for us if you pay us. That's right: load up our site with content, but you have to pay to be our writers. Oh, and those who read your stuff have to pay, too." The only writers you'd get would be ones who were writing ads to sell their own/affiliate products ... and few people would read it.

Quote - I would be interested down the road to hear from those who chose to move their freebies to other sites, how their download numbers stack up against when they were at ShareCG.

I wonder how many care about download numbers. Personally, I do like people to at least know about the free stuff I post. That's why I generally let people know about it at the DAZ freepository or other places.  

Can you only upload freebies to RMP if you sell here? If so, I wasn't aware of that. 

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A lot of people may not know this, but nearly anyone can become a vendor at Content Paradise and upload freebies. No size limits. Nice reporting. Heavy download hits. The only reason I stopped hosting my freebies there is because they were mixed in with my store products and it hurt my sales to have them mixed up like that. But, if someone doesn't plan to sell content, it's a nice place to host freebies. You don't have to sell content at CP to host your free stuff there. Or, you can make things free for a limited time and then sell it. Very flexible. It doesn't cost anything to the content creator or downloader (unless the downloader chooses the extended download service).

YUR digital and most of the other stores also allow freebie hosting for their vendors.

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One: The people who read (that is download) do NOT have to pay.  Those who upload products do NOT have to pay. These have been well extablished facts now and have been for several days.

Two: There are quite a number of sites that publish writers works that are "donated."

Three: Writers who work for free are usually doing so to establish themselves, similar to new content creators.

Four: Are you sure that your payment came from ad revenues and not downloaders donations through the Paypal option? Because if there was no revenue, it could not have been shared with content providers, and it has been clearly stated that there was no revenue. If you sincerely believe that the payments came from ShareCG rather than from donations, then the implication is that David (the owner) paid you out of his own pocket.

 

Quote - A lot of people may not know this, but nearly anyone can become a vendor at Content Paradise and upload freebies. No size limits. Nice reporting. Heavy download hits. The only reason I stopped hosting my freebies there is because they were mixed in with my store products and it hurt my sales to have them mixed up like that. But, if someone doesn't plan to sell content, it's a nice place to host freebies. You don't have to sell content at CP to host your free stuff there. Or, you can make things free for a limited time and then sell it. Very flexible. It doesn't cost anything to the content creator or downloader (unless the downloader chooses the extended download service).

YUR digital and most of the other stores also allow freebie hosting for their vendors.

 

CP used to run 30+ pages of freebies. They do not do this any more. You may have noticed that the number of pages is now limited. Just a guess...they may want to keep that limited space only available to current vendors at their site. If they get inundated with freebie content, you can be sure that they will make changes.

Bandwidth is expensive as is storage. Many small sites may soon find themselves going under if they start hosting everyone else's freebies or else (the gods forfend!), they may ask people to help them pay the costs.

 

 

One: Yes, I know that. I question how long that will last.

Two/Three: As their whole content model? Most at least pay for AP/UPI/Reuters licensing and "supplement" with staff (paid) writers and blog (publicity) writers.

Four: I'm absolutely sure it came from ShareCG. I find it impossible to believe that there has been no revenue. I just don't believe they would have implemented ad-sharing (which was well into the existence of ShareCG) if they were making no money at all.

Yes, I have received donations, too. Those came specifically from the names of the people who donated them.  ShareCG stopped ad-sharing a while back because they said that a couple of people were abusing the system. I don't know if that meant that people were uploading lousy products just to get hits or that some people were fraudulently clicking the ads. Either way, a couple of bad apples spoiled it for the whole bunch.

Don't get me wrong. I've enjoyed ShareCG and have encouraged people to use it for quite some time now. I will likely stay there a while as I said to see how it all pans out.

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Quote - > Quote - A lot of people may not know this, but nearly anyone can become a vendor at Content Paradise and upload freebies. No size limits. Nice reporting. Heavy download hits. The only reason I stopped hosting my freebies there is because they were mixed in with my store products and it hurt my sales to have them mixed up like that. But, if someone doesn't plan to sell content, it's a nice place to host freebies. You don't have to sell content at CP to host your free stuff there. Or, you can make things free for a limited time and then sell it. Very flexible. It doesn't cost anything to the content creator or downloader (unless the downloader chooses the extended download service).

YUR digital and most of the other stores also allow freebie hosting for their vendors.

 

CP used to run 30+ pages of freebies. They do not do this any more. You may have noticed that the number of pages is now limited. Just a guess...they may want to keep that limited space only available to current vendors at their site. If they get inundated with freebie content, you can be sure that they will make changes.

Bandwidth is expensive as is storage. Many small sites may soon find themselves going under if they start hosting everyone else's freebies or else (the gods forfend!), they may ask people to help them pay the costs.

I truly love CP, but they could benefit from more quality freebies & community spirit! LOL I would hope that they would see this as an opportunity to get more of it and lure over some big vendors.  Plus, they might make a few bucks off people who like extended download service. Given that they have a store-based model, the extra traffic would likely be something that would translate into sales for them.

The freebies went away because of the store change several years ago which cleared out all the old products. Content creators had the option to re-upload them. Many decided that it wasn't worth the hassle. Some of those freebies passed into oblivion. 

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One: Not worth a response.

Two/Three: That example sure isn't working any more, is it? There are many sites that run purely donated writing. I didn't think we were talking conglomerations.

Four: I have had items up there for three years now and was never notified of any revenue sharing from ads. All my "income" came from donations; however, I was nolt noltified who made the donations.

 

Quote -  Plus, they might make a few bucks off people who like extended download service. Given that they have a store-based model, the extra traffic would likely be something that would translate into sales for them.

LOL, you don't seem to have a problem with CP making money off of freebies.

 

Quote - The freebies went away because of the store change several years ago which cleared out all the old products. Content creators had the option to re-upload them. Many decided that it wasn't worth the hassle. Some of those freebies passed into oblivion. 

 

Actually, many of the free products still do appear on a rotating basis now, so it would seem that there is some kind of limitation on how much CP is willing to host.

 

Quote -
LOL, you don't seem to have a problem with CP making money off of freebies.

CP does not charge for downloading. CP does not charge for hosting free content. My issue, as I said before, is being charged to host free content, which for now is a moot point at ShareCG.

Quote - Actually, many of the free products still do appear on a rotating basis now, so it would seem that there is some kind of limitation on how much CP is willing to host.

As a vendor, I haven't been notified about that one. I would be surprised unless the vendor marked them as limited-time or limited-number or simply deactivated them, which I have done.

...

I am kind of curious to know if you share freebies on ShareCG or somewhere else.

Well, it's late. I'm hitting the sack. Have a great night! :)

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Quote - > Quote - LOL, you don't seem to have a problem with CP making money off of freebies.

CP does not charge for downloading. CP does not charge for hosting free content. My issue, as I said before, is being charged to host free content, which for now is a moot point at ShareCG.

 

ShareCG will not be charging for downloading or hosting either (customer choice), so it was a moot point when the conversation started.

Quote - ... I am kind of curious to know if you share freebies on ShareCG or somewhere else.

Well, it's late. I'm hitting the sack. Have a great night! :)

 

Yes, I have freebies at a number of sites, including ShareCG and CP. I have not had time to do a lot in the last year due to health and computer issues. but the computer is getting fixed this week. Yay!!

 

I still have no option to upload files on my upload page?

Has anyone found a solution to this yet?

All the ebst.

LROG

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Can somebody please explain to me why this conversation does not reference the Rendo freestuff at all? I don't understand what the appeal if sharecg is anymore. I did when there was revenue sharing. I no longer do.

Is there something I'm missing? I know that Rendo used to only let you reference freebies, but did not host them. Now it hosts them, too, right?

Way confused.

I always have and always do search Rendo free stuff first. I only go to sharecg if I don't find what I want, and I would really prefer that sharecg didn't exist so that I only had to search one place.

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The difference with Sharcg is is up straight away and you don't have to wait for hours to have something allowed.

All the best.

LROG

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Quote - Can somebody please explain to me why this conversation does not reference the Rendo freestuff at all? I don't understand what the appeal if sharecg is anymore. I did when there was revenue sharing. I no longer do.

Is there something I'm missing? I know that Rendo used to only let you reference freebies, but did not host them. Now it hosts them, too, right?

Way confused.

I always have and always do search Rendo free stuff first. I only go to sharecg if I don't find what I want, and I would really prefer that sharecg didn't exist so that I only had to search one place.

I had suggested the Rendo Free Area but I thought that LmWolfSpirit was indicating that was for RMP vendors only. Before I became a vendor, I was able to upload but that's been a while ago & I don't know if things have changed or not.

Yes, RMP hosts freebies. As I last checked, you could not link to your freebies off-site. I haven't tried to upload anything here in quite some time so I don't know how it works behind-the-scenes right now.

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Some of the free stuff on sharecg is nowhere else and would probably disappear if sharecg were gone or be hidden on a possibly non-english website with names you would not recognize. That would be a considerable loss.

I don't think the offer is unreasonable at all. You can carry on as usual or upgrade to more functionality for a fee.

Quote - I always have and always do search Rendo free stuff first. I only go to sharecg if I don't find what I want, and I would really prefer that sharecg didn't exist so that I only had to search one place.

In contrast, since I rejoined rendo, I have looked at free stuff here exactly once.  I never use google to find any 3d, but ShareCG is my first choice after searching through the PoserWorld disks. 

I do have a page at google, exactly one blank, empty page.  If it goes away and didn't exist, I wouldn't care at all.  I would really prefer google pages didn't exist so I only had to search one place.

(When you start making uncomfortable shoes, expect someone else to throw them back at you.)

I really don't understand the sniveling, sniping and whining about SCG offering something that I had wished could exist, and now will.  If you don't want to pay anything, don't, but don't make it sound like they're ripping you for something, they're not.  There is no place you can upload to where there won't be costs incurred somewhere.  Don't expect someone else to pay the costs for you.  Advertising, subscription, donation, it doesn't matter, somehow the costs have to be paid or hosting will go away.

 

D.

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@ BB - I did mention Rendo, several pages back. :)

@ PrecisionXXX - Dunno about now, since SCG's later posts but at the start it very much sounded like there was going to be no choice in the matter.  Re your assertion that someone somewhere has to pay, you'll get no argument from me on that matter, but...

If you're a member here it's entirely possible to join, upload freebies, download freebies, post in the forums and galleries, all without paying a single penny.  For all I know, the same could be the same for SCG in future, I dunno.  As for banners, ads and so forth, they're pretty much transparent to the user (at least they are to me) since people can either block 'em or ignore 'em.

I can't speak for anyone else but I don't give a monkey's chuff who pays for the hosting, as long as it ain't me or anyone who wants to get my freebies.  Just to be clear, I'm talking about the end users here, which is why I allow redistribution so long as the means of delivery is free to the end user. 

Finally, I have never snivelled, sniped or whined in my life.

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Finally, I have never snivelled, sniped or whined in my life.

There might be colorful ways of describing the ShareCG partisans in this thread as well, but we don't do that sort of stuff at Renderosity, (most of the time.) It might be fun if we could. Just saying... lol

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Quote - > Quote - I always have and always do search Rendo free stuff first. I only go to sharecg if I don't find what I want, and I would really prefer that sharecg didn't exist so that I only had to search one place.

In contrast, since I rejoined rendo, I have looked at free stuff here exactly once.  I never use google to find any 3d, but ShareCG is my first choice after searching through the PoserWorld disks. 

I do have a page at google, exactly one blank, empty page.  If it goes away and didn't exist, I wouldn't care at all.  I would really prefer google pages didn't exist so I only had to search one place.

(When you start making uncomfortable shoes, expect someone else to throw them back at you.)

I really don't understand the sniveling, sniping and whining about SCG offering something that I had wished could exist, and now will.  If you don't want to pay anything, don't, but don't make it sound like they're ripping you for something, they're not.  There is no place you can upload to where there won't be costs incurred somewhere.  Don't expect someone else to pay the costs for you.  Advertising, subscription, donation, it doesn't matter, somehow the costs have to be paid or hosting will go away.

 

D.

As this post was all in one post, I have to assume all of it was related to the quote of what I said. Maybe that isn't the case, but I'm going to answer anyway.

My post was a question genuinely asked, not for rhetorical purposes, but because I don't understand the concerns of this thread. There are and were several search engines for freebies before sharecg. It's purported reason for existence is undifferentiated, now that there is no revenue sharing. Worse - now there is an opportunity to pay for what is otherwise free. Why is sharecg important then? I always did find what I wanted, to the extent that it exists somewhere, before sharecg. Some things can only be found at sharecg, and so I have to go there to find them [tautology] but in the absence of that peculiar restriction, why is sharecg more important than any other?

If you meant for me to come to understand that I am sniveling, sniping, or whining, you failed. I still believe, despite having read your statement, that none of those apply to me. I am not commenting on or asking about sharecg, per se, but rather I'm reacting to the reactions. And I'm doing so with puzzlement, not with malice.

As for this: "Advertising, subscription, donation, it doesn't matter, somehow the costs have to be paid or hosting will go away."

I am still, respectfully, forced to point out that this isn't true. My Google site has no advertisements, and I do not pay, in goods, services, or money, for it in any way. Why do you keep saying things like that?

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I used sharecg because it was FREE, and because it was a single site that many people used for Poser, Lightwave and 3dsmax models as well as some scripts and textures.

I dropped rendo as a freebie site because I thought , maybe wrongly, that you had to pay for the file space to host your stuff (file locker?) and I simply can't afford that.

I do have many of my python scripts here but as attachments in the forum.

 

 

"I always have and always do search Rendo free stuff first."

 

you wrote a working search for RO or can get the search round here working properly?

I gave up and try Google first than try the search here....

Quote - I am still, respectfully, forced to point out that this isn't true. My Google site has no advertisements, and I do not pay, in goods, services, or money, for it in any way. Why do you keep saying things like that?

You pay in traffic brought to google, and it ultimately benefits them.  I don't know all that google does, and suspect if I did, they would be blocked from my computer completely.  For the number of sites they host, that's a lot of traffic, each one potentially using google in one capacity or another.  Google has been in the news in several unflattering ways, making me wonder if they deserve my using them at all.

Storage and bandwidth are somewhere paid for, even Google doesn't get their bandwidth free, someone is paying for it, and someone is making money from that.  Where anyone gets the idea that the net is completely free and there are no costs to be paid, I have no idea. Somewhere there is hardware involved, and unless someone donated all of it and is also paying for the maintenance, that says there are costs that have to be paid.  Because you can't see where that's coming from, and for most sites you can't, doesn't mean they're not present and someone has a way to pay for it.

Granted, the original letter was very unclear, that cannot be excused, but, now that some has been clarified, and a very reasonable proposal outlined, it's time the negativity and sniping at ShareCG went away.  They have as much right to exist as rendo, daz or google.  I get the picture that there are the few here that are not going to pay, and bitch like hell because others will.  There is little that irritates me more than going to scroll down only to find because the site is still loading an ad, nothing else will work until it's done.  Hell, yes.  I'll pay to get rid of that.

 

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

Quote - "I always have and always do search Rendo free stuff first."

 

you wrote a working search for RO or can get the search round here working properly?

I gave up and try Google first than try the search here....

I don't think searching Rendo is easy or very successful. I rarely find anything I want no matter where I look.

 

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I'm going to remind everyone to stay on topic.  No accusations of whining, etc. and if using language please remember to flag your post.  

...... Kendra

All I want from SharCG is a browser like I used to havce so that I can upload files!!!! LOL.

For some reason it has gone from my upload page.

Tried with both FF and IE and still no section to browse to my files on my system.

All the best.

LROG

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I think, therefore maybe wrong, but after you've done this page, the next one will ask for the upload file.  Haven't tried it, but it looks like the page for large files.

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

Nope!!! Something wrong at their end.

Did all the bit, hit upload and  got.....

Warning: ociexecute() [function.ociexecute]: ORA-00936: missing expression in /www/scg/htdocs/includes/upload.inc.php on line 208
System Error: Failed to insert the image ...
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /www/scg/htdocs/includes/upload.inc.php:208) in /www/scg/htdocs/share_action.php on line 767

So, no uploads to Sharcg for me. And yes, I am logged in.

All the best.

LROG

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paganeagle you could let them know. There is a report a but link way at the bottom of the page.

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Quote - > Quote - "I always have and always do search Rendo free stuff first."

 

you wrote a working search for RO or can get the search round here working properly?

I gave up and try Google first than try the search here....

I don't think searching Rendo is easy or very successful. I rarely find anything I want no matter where I look.

 

 

I have to agree with having search problems at Rendo (both for vendored and freebie stuff). However, when I do find something I want to DL, I am most often taken to another site for the DL (e.g. ShareCg).

Another reason I prefer going to ShareCG vs Rendo freebies is the size of the promo images, the ability to have more than one image and the ability to post more than a few words regarding the product including links to the orginal product if it is an add-on.

 

PS I never said that Rendo limited their freebie uploads to vendors only. I do not know if this is the case. I did say that CP may limit their uploads to current vendors as someone suggested that as an alternative to ShareCG.

 

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/upload.php?new

You do not have to be a vendor to upload a freebie here at Renderosity.  

...... Kendra

Quote - Nope!!! Something wrong at their end.

Did all the bit, hit upload and  got.....

Warning: ociexecute() [function.ociexecute]: ORA-00936: missing expression in /www/scg/htdocs/includes/upload.inc.php on line 208
System Error: Failed to insert the image ...
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /www/scg/htdocs/includes/upload.inc.php:208) in /www/scg/htdocs/share_action.php on line 767

So, no uploads to Sharcg for me. And yes, I am logged in.

All the best.

LROG

Okay, I didn't upload anything, just jumped through the hoops to get as far as I did, then exited.  Could be something down, an email or mention on a blog to David should correct it.

Also, as a subscriber, I won't see any of the ads, and neither will anyone looking at my uploads. 

D.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

 

And today, it's working!!!!!

All the best.

LROG

Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!