Well, Tyler has had his threads!!! Lol.

All the best.

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They should have never touched Miki 1's feet except maybe to scale them down a bit. Those don't look near as nice. He has flat feet ;) Dunno what it is with all the flat feet lately.

Laurie "The Foot Lady"

His feet do look kinda flat. Is that the default body? ISTR Miki 3 looking a little soft.

It's not the tool used, it's the tool using it

Sorry, I DID mean she ;).

Laurie

There's a foot Arch morph.

Teyon, thank you. You did a very nice job. Internet forums are dominated by complainers. Pointless to argue. I think it is why many people just lurk. I think people don't look at the dials enough. You can make fairly decent characters out of many of the Poser people if you try. Again Teyon, I like her very much.

I never saw Miki1's foot. I wonder if we have it? I should check. I've only gone back as far as Miki 2.

Quote - Teyon, thank you. You did a very nice job. Internet forums are dominated by complainers. Pointless to argue. I think it is why many people just lurk. I think people don't look at the dials enough. You can make fairly decent characters out of many of the Poser people if you try. Again Teyon, I like her very much.

Thanks. I'm glad folks are liking the new body for the most part - haven't heard much about the Miki 4 morph but still, it's nice to know the body is better than Miki 3's. As for the rest, people like what they like. I try to hear everyone out and then just do what I can to meet folks half way while pleasing my bosses. Sometimes I even manage to get that right. :)

ISTR the feet is one of the few things they changed about the geometry from Miki 1 to Miki 2......

I do like Miki 3 (don't have 4)

It's not the tool used, it's the tool using it

Ah. That explains that. Well, P10 figures will be (hopefully) even more realistic so I'll be sure to default to arched foot and have a flat foot morph instead of the reverse.

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My first Miki4 render with my first own Bodymorph.

Very nice!

My first Miki 4 portrait. Thanks for an excellent work!

Cool!

Quote - My first Miki 4 portrait. Thanks for an excellent work!

Pretty! :)

I think she's rather pretty.

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Quote - My first Miki 4 portrait. Thanks for an excellent work!

VERY cute :)

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How's about this one?

I love all those renders

Timberwolf's render makes me feel I need a sweater! A++++

It's not the tool used, it's the tool using it

Quote - How's about this one?

Very beautiful!

Quote - > Quote - How's about this one?

Very beautiful!

Used your textures 8-) I love that Asian Beauty set!

Here's a really old test render I did ... this one also uses the Asian Beauty texture set, and also uses the "Miki 4" head morph (since Teyon brought it up ...)

Interesting to compare to Miki 2 (which I think is the Miki used in my avatar). I like this newer face much better.

Here's a quick render of Miki4 with some tweaks to her face / head morphs and using a Miki3 pose I had kicking about...

Click image for larger gallery version...

Nudity advisory, just in case... I'm just never sure where the line is :sneaky:

EDIT: ...and yes, winter is drawing in...

Quote - Here's a quick render of Miki4 with some tweaks to her face / head morphs and using a Miki3 pose I had kicking about...

Click image for larger gallery version...

Nudity advisory, just in case... I'm just never sure where the line is :sneaky:

EDIT: ...and yes, winter is drawing in...

Has a nice painterly quality to it! Nice job.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - How's about this one?

Very beautiful!

Used your textures 8-) I love that Asian Beauty set!

Thank you! Glad you like it! Love both of your renders and that dress is fantastic. I purchase it and I am playing with it right now!

This is another render wearing the new dress!

Quote - This is another render wearing the new dress!

Ooooh I like that one!!!

I only had a few brief moments to play with Miki4, but I was quite happy with her bending. I didnt really get to tear into her too deeply but I think she bends better than alyson and ryan.

These are great! Keep 'em coming!

Virtual_World, that looks very nice. I would like to see her teeth in a smile to see how she looks.

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Great renders here. Weight mapping is so much better but it is not the holy gral. It still needs a lot of JCMs and postwork. I agree with RGUS, hands are to big. Lets see if Miki 4 has propagating scale options.

Just to shift the critical focus, temporarily, away from Laurie's foot obsessions... LOL... I think her armpits are fantastic Teyon :biggrin:

I think armpits might even matter to me as much as feet matter to Laurie... maybe. Maybe that's my new thing... armpits :lol:

Personally, I like her feet too... maybe more so with a touch of arch morph added... sure.

Finally got to play a bit with this one. Miki 4 w/ the 3 face and the new body is fantastic. That body is delicious. The new face morphs and controls are top notch too. Love those eyelashes. Teyon you did so much better on this one than Miki 3, it's like it's a whole new figure. Love it!

Just "out of the zip file" test render, low quality render settings.

Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!

Quote - Just to shift the critical focus, temporarily, away from Laurie's foot obsessions... LOL... I think her armpits are fantastic Teyon :biggrin:

...

Yeah, no one will ever let me live it down so I may as well play along....lol.

Laurie

Quote - Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!

Agreed! FWIW, the core team who delivered Miki4?

The folks that worked on Miki3 plus these dedicated team members who actually delivered Miki4:

Darrel Glidden for rigging, ghost bones, ABCs, JCMs, material conversions and dependencies
Teyon Alexander for modeling, full and partial body/actor morphs
Denise Tyler for documentation and testing
Steve Rathmann for coordinating the beta program, managing SVN and building our installers
Uli Klumpp and Larry Weinberg for providing engineering support and some critical poser fixes that enable better bending and scaling
-Snarlygribbly for EZSkin and for lending his eyes to the project before we closed the door
my superiors at Smith for recognizing that injecting joy into the Poser space with a freebie this big has value
Tori Porter, Steve Yatson and Lin Petrucci for helping build out the back end and the marketing components
and of course - to all the fantastic beta testers!

We've been on this project for a year, and it is very satisfying to finally be able to share her.

Miki 3 left the keys to the Mastadon lying around... :lol: (EDIT: near nudity in link)

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Quote - Miki 3 left the keys to the Mastadon lying around... :lol:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2370743

I hope she doesn't get her boobs caught in anything...LOL! ;).

Laurie

Quote - > Quote - Miki 3 left the keys to the Mastadon lying around... :lol:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2370743

I hope she doesn't get her boobs caught in anything...LOL! ;).

Laurie

I bet it's very warm there too (LOL) ... that's gotta hurt!

Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

What really helps the toe bends? Involve not just the actor we calll the "toe" but also use the actual individual toe joints. I know there is a pose pack of Miki4 foot poses in the works and the preliminary screen caps I've seen from that are pretty hot.

Finally putting up a render after studying her for a while... still the reigning queen of expression...;) Really nice original morphs in there as well. Facial morphs hidden all over the place.

Head/neck and torso twist,bend side to side seem superior to dialing them. So easy to render compared to V4 and 71K a good weight.

Thanks gang. :)

I just rendered her. She looks cross-eyed to me, and those big hands. Ugh!

Quote - > Quote - Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!

Agreed! FWIW, the core team who delivered Miki4?

The folks that worked on Miki3 plus these dedicated team members who actually delivered Miki4:

Darrel Glidden for rigging, ghost bones, ABCs, JCMs, material conversions and dependencies

Teyon Alexander for modeling, full and partial body/actor morphs

Denise Tyler for documentation and testing

Steve Rathmann for coordinating the beta program, managing SVN and building our installers

Uli Klumpp and Larry Weinberg for providing engineering support and some critical poser fixes that enable better bending and scaling
-Snarlygribbly for EZSkin and for lending his eyes to the project before we closed the door

my superiors at Smith for recognizing that injecting joy into the Poser space with a freebie this big has value

Tori Porter, Steve Yatson and Lin Petrucci for helping build out the back end and the marketing components

and of course - to all the fantastic beta testers!

We've been on this project for a year, and it is very satisfying to finally be able to share her.

Many thanks to everyone involved... I've been anticipating her arrival my whole Poser lifetime.

Can't wait for PhilC to publish her WW definition... coming a little later today (U.S.) I believe.

Playing with WW and Tyler currently...

> Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

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Just installed her and messed around, I really like the figure as a whole, but what is with those hands..!

They look a bit long to me.....

But, that aside I will be using her a lot..

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And the best thing, my basic naughty bit morphs for Miki 3 work on her too.

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Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

Nice work :biggrin:

Quote - What really helps the toe bends? Involve not just the actor we calll the "toe" but also use the actual individual toe joints. I know there is a pose pack of Miki4 foot poses in the works and the preliminary screen caps I've seen from that are pretty hot.

I'll look forward to seeing that one

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

Very good. LOL I don't question whether or not I can do it myself (I can) but whether the average user can and how she can look a little better out of the box.

Laurie

I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users. Don't have either, so in the words of SM, Stuffit. :)

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are there any premade head morphs apart for miki4 to change the character?

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Yes, she gets my thumbs up so far.

I used amber hair in this render. I had to unhide the dials for translate in the head part of the hair, and then the hair came in nicely.

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Eyelashes as a separate obj.. great.. You can render down on them finally, leave them behind when in Zbrush and not worry about trashing them. Old Miki3 texture with baked in lip gloss. not good. cropped it off after a long render.

Quote - I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users...

What, she's not also free to us DAZ Studio 4 Genesis users too? T.T

(jk, although I downloaded DS4, I have yet to install it).

Miki 4 looks awesome by the way. I should upgrade my software...

Quote - I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users. Don't have either, so in the words of SM, Stuffit. :)

Come on, you know you wanna upgrade, you know I want you to upgrade, you know that Miki and Tyler want you to upgrade. ;-)

BTW - I read your post to our team today - it was really clever and made us giggle. Thank you for that.

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Quote - Just installed her and messed around, I really like the figure as a whole, but what is with those hands..!

They look a bit long to me.....

But, that aside I will be using her a lot..

I originally had them too small, they got scaled up somewhere along the way. I may have over did it.

Quote - Just to shift the critical focus, temporarily, away from Laurie's foot obsessions... LOL... I think her armpits are fantastic Teyon :biggrin:

I think armpits might even matter to me as much as feet matter to Laurie... maybe. Maybe that's my new thing... armpits :lol:

Personally, I like her feet too... maybe more so with a touch of arch morph added... sure.

I find that armpits are often overlooked in most 3D models. So I tried to pay attention to that area. I'm glad it paid off. Next time, it'll be feet hands and....armpits! :D

Esther, I love that hair on her (and I'm not a big fan of bangs). Which is that?

I agree, it really does suit her doesn't it. It's called amber hair and it is at rdna. I'm a huge fan of bangs.

It was really easy to get it to fit. I just unhid the translate dial in the neck part of the hair and dialed y until it sat nicely.

Here's a screen cap of the dial.

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Quote - Esther, I love that hair on her (and I'm not a big fan of bangs). Which is that?

I was thinking the same thing!!

One from me.

All the best.

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Here's a crappy render of a younger Miki 4 I did with body morph, faceroom and EZskin. Miki 4

Sorry about the vertical distortion. It's not there in the original.

These are all great. I'm glad you all are finding things to like about her. That's pretty sweet. I'm going to have to hunt down that hair at RDNA, thanks. :D

nobodyinparticular, that is too distorted for me to be able to tell how it looks.

what scaling changes did you make?

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She be showing some serious potential here folks. This is exciting! 8-)

That hair went right in my shopping cart (mwahahahahaha!)

The problem is how the image shows up on the forum. I really didn't do any scaling, since she is the shortest of my poser women, slightly shorter that Alyson. This was just a quick and dirty project. I think I'll just delete the post. The distortion is not in the original.

but now I am curious. I often just do screen caps of my render in poser and it seems to import fine into here.

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Yeah, mine import fine too, tho I do it thru the file import at the bottom of the reply box and not with the picture tool up in the right corner.

Laurie

I never noticed the picture tool. I do it your way.

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Try again. Thanks Laurie. Interface too cluttered. Too little sleep. Like I said, a crappy render anyway.

not bad.

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Thanks. I try not to repeat characters. The face room is my friend.

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

Definitely looks better, but I think I'll be sticking to GND4 and GNDA2 for feet!

Have to say I'm a little underwhelmed. She has the strangest looking butt I've ever seen. Also, whoever rigged the eyes has probably never used the "point at" feature in Poser or they would know how badly they screwed up.

Why make the eyelashes a seperate figure? That's just going to make developement harder.

Back to her eyes...she does indeed look crosseyed. I wish as well that she had morphs to move her eyes and eye sockets up or down and in or out as well as increasing their size (without using the anime morph)...all very important to me in creating unique characters.

The "ear up/down" morph isn't very good because it leaves the "attachment point" in the same spot and just "stretches the ear.

One last thing. I HATE the exe installer!!! I am not an idiot who needs to have everything installed for me! In fact, I don't want ANYTHING in the places you decided to put them! I want geometries in the geometry folder. I want pmd files all in an injection folder. PLEASE...don't do me any favors! Just give me the zip, I'll put everything where I want and run it through Poser File Organizer to correct the references.

Rant over.

I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!

that's anice looking character already. But have you not tried the faceroom to adjust the features more?

You will need to turn off those extra eyelashes and switch back to transmapped. both are included. for me the more options the better.

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why would you not want to manually move the eyes separately from each other for a less crosseyed look? when people look at something close up their eyes converge, and when they look at something in the distance their eyes diverge. does the point at trick adjust for that movement?

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Here is a test of aniBlock-to-Poser app with the new Miki 4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GWHt2UgKVQ

Here you go:

This is Miki 4 rendered in DazStudio.

Miki 4

To resize and move the eyes, use the face room. There are dials there specifcally for that and moving the ears.

Quote -

Back to her eyes...she does indeed look crosseyed. I wish as well that she had morphs to move her eyes and eye sockets up or down and in or out as well as increasing their size (without using the anime morph)...all very important to me in creating unique characters.

The "ear up/down" morph isn't very good because it leaves the "attachment point" in the same spot and just "stretches the ear.

So if you don't like the one in her head actor, you can use the ones in the face room.

Smallspace, I believe the words you're looking for are "Thanks you for gernerously giving away 2 free characters"

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I'm impressed! Great work! Great body shape and morphs Teyon- love the expressive face!

Eric

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Quote - Yuppers, for sure, Teyon and Darrell did a great job. They worked hard, and it shows!

Agreed! FWIW, the core team who delivered Miki4?

The folks that worked on Miki3 plus these dedicated team members who actually delivered Miki4:

Darrel Glidden for rigging, ghost bones, ABCs, JCMs, material conversions and dependencies
Teyon Alexander for modeling, full and partial body/actor morphs
Denise Tyler for documentation and testing
Steve Rathmann for coordinating the beta program, managing SVN and building our installers
Uli Klumpp and Larry Weinberg for providing engineering support and some critical poser fixes that enable better bending and scaling
-Snarlygribbly for EZSkin and for lending his eyes to the project before we closed the door
my superiors at Smith for recognizing that injecting joy into the Poser space with a freebie this big has value
Tori Porter, Steve Yatson and Lin Petrucci for helping build out the back end and the marketing components
and of course - to all the fantastic beta testers!

We've been on this project for a year, and it is very satisfying to finally be able to share her.

Quote - Have to say I'm a little underwhelmed. She has the strangest looking butt I've ever seen. Also, whoever rigged the eyes has probably never used the "point at" feature in Poser or they would know how badly they screwed up.

Why make the eyelashes a seperate figure? That's just going to make developement harder.

Back to her eyes...she does indeed look crosseyed. I wish as well that she had morphs to move her eyes and eye sockets up or down and in or out as well as increasing their size (without using the anime morph)...all very important to me in creating unique characters.

The "ear up/down" morph isn't very good because it leaves the "attachment point" in the same spot and just "stretches the ear.

One last thing. I HATE the exe installer!!! I am not an idiot who needs to have everything installed for me! In fact, I don't want ANYTHING in the places you decided to put them! I want geometries in the geometry folder. I want pmd files all in an injection folder. PLEASE...don't do me any favors! Just give me the zip, I'll put everything where I want and run it through Poser File Organizer to correct the references.

Rant over.

Some people would bitch if they were hung with new rope.

There are these things called "morphs" with with figure, you can change the shape of the butt if it isn't to your fancy.

The eyelashes as a separate figure were in response to customer input on Miki 2 or 3, I remember a number of requests for it.

If you don't like how the eyes and ears work, redo the rigging in the modeler of your choice.

The exe installer is there for a reason.

According to the Poser Product Manager, the exe was necessary because some files had to be added to the Poser program to support Tyler and Miki4. It won't be necessary for the next version of Poser.

I like Miki 4 very much and here is my first image with her. I used Asian Beauties by Virtual_World on her. :)

Well, ok.

"Thank(s) you for generously (or is that really "gernerously"?) giving away 2 free characters.

Now then...

What I really meant to say is that just like V4...who's base figure was also "free"...I'd be delighted to pay for a set of morphs equivalent to V4's Morphs++, which include all the features I mentioned.

Are we happy yet?

Quote - Smallspace, I believe the words you're looking for are "Thanks you for gernerously giving away 2 free characters"

So she isn't perfect. Look out your window. You won't see a perfect person out there.

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"Some people would bitch if they were hung with new rope."

**Hmm...I don't know. I think I would bitch no what type of rope was used to hang me.
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"There are these things called "morphs" with with figure, you can change the shape of the butt if it isn't to your fancy."

That's a bit of a stutter you've got there.

**I've already done some work on her butt with the morph tool...but, 1: I stand by my claim that she has an ugly butt and 2: there are no morphs included in the package that will fix it.
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"The eyelashes as a separate figure were in response to customer input on Miki 2 or 3, I remember a number of requests for it."

Since I don't frequent either Smith Micro's or Content Paradise's forums, I was unaware that anyone had ever complained of it being an issue. I may have missed it, but I don't remember anyone bringing it up here either. Since, as I have now been informed, she does, indeed, have eyelashes built in, it become as much a non-issue as V4's eyebrow zone that hardly anyone uses.*

"If you don't like how the eyes and ears work, redo the rigging in the modeler of your choice."

Ahh. I guess that's your answer to any complaint..."I you don't like it, fix it yourself!" You assume I haven't already done so. Your mistake.*

*The exe installer is there for a reason. *

Unless it made a change to the actual poser exe file, it's not...certainly it adds nothing to the runtime that could not be handled with a regular zip file.

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I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!

Oh my! I made a booboo! Is my face red!

Should read:

"Hmm...I don't know. I think I would bitch no MATTER what type of rope was used to hang me."

(just ignore that whole, "sutter" comment, if you please...but the rest of it stands)

I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!

Quote - > Quote - I see it's free for P9 and 2012 users. Don't have either, so in the words of SM, Stuffit. :)

Come on, you know you wanna upgrade, you know I want you to upgrade, you know that Miki and Tyler want you to upgrade. ;-)

BTW - I read your post to our team today - it was really clever and made us giggle. Thank you for that.

Cooper

I was lucky that Poser 9 / Pro 2012 was the first version I've owned.

With all the money I now keep getting tempted to spend on content, there's no way I could afford to upgrade again right now. He he :laugh: Have you seen Dreamland Tom's latest model? It looks amazing

I'm just very thankful that SamTherapy's FANtastic Dalek figures are freebies. If he was able to charge for the totally awesome work he does on those, I'd be even lighter of pocket! I'd be a sucker for a good looking, splendidly rigged Dalek product any day

Nice pointy pixie ears on her there Paganeagle, by the way... and that amber hair looks great Esther

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

That's gorgeous, Ted, but I was more concerned about getting those dogs into shoes...

One thing I learmned from working on V4WM is that each person notices different things about a Figure. I myself was concerned about the bending of the collars and shoulders, but somehow no one paid much mind to the elbows; it wasn't until after she was released that someone pointed out they could bend better; I even have test renders showing her bent elbows! (Miki 4's elbows are quite nice).

Quote - Here you go:

This is Miki 4 rendered in DazStudio.

That's a beautiful render! Does she bend?

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I haven't tried in Daz yet. She does work well with aniBlock-to-Poser. I'll give it a try.

It would be interesting to see, what a GND version of Miki4 would look like ;-) . Well , I know Michelle is first. ;-)

Quote - It would be interesting to see, what a GND version of Miki4 would look like ;-) . Well , I know Michelle is first. ;-)

Totally

I so hope that one is on the cards...

Miki 4 does not pose nor bend properly in DS 4.5, at least in my quick tests

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Good job, Teyon!

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AMAZING work!!!!!

All the ebst.

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Thanks! Sorry to hear she doesn't quite work in DS but you can't win 'em all I guess.

Quote - Miki 4 does not pose nor bend properly in DS 4.5, at least in my quick tests

It says in Miki's documentation that it won't work in Daz Studio. I assume due to the extra bones in her rigging.

Weight mapping - Miki 4 uses P9/PP2012 weight mapping.

This is why it won't work in anything but P9/PP2012. Not P8, not DS.

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Palmslap to face. Of course!

Quote - > Quote - I like her very much, but her feet are pretty clunky, particulary the ankle and toe bends...

So this inspired me to learn the morph brush. I only did one foot and I'd start over again just because I learned so much.

Left is before, right is after.

I also found that bending and scaling each toe into a more realistic position was very helpful.

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@ JV Renderer....just an amazing job.

Quote - Good job, Teyon!

Excellent! :)

Laurie

Giggle, giggle

I see the spine morph in use :-))

Nice

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I see the spine morph in use :-))

Nice

LOL this reaction made me think of Quagmire ... "Giggity giggity ... gig-a-dee"

Mina by LadyRaine for Miki4 over at RDNA.

All the best.

LROG

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Great job Teyon- and a fine pose and render!

Quote - Good job, Teyon!

Psssssttt...if you're gonna repeat the pic you need to check the nudity checkbox ;) Besides, that's JVRenderer's image, not Teyon's LOL.

Laurie

Quote - Good job, Teyon!

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I think the spine morph was a brilliant idea!

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Quote - Psssssttt...if you're gonna repeat the pic you need to check the nudity checkbox ;) Besides, that's JVRenderer's image, not Teyon's LOL.

Laurie

Is it nude? She's wearing shoes...

:sneaky:

Quote - Great renders here. Weight mapping is so much better but it is not the holy gral. It still needs a lot of JCMs and postwork. I agree with RGUS, hands are to big. Lets see if Miki 4 has propagating scale options.

I don't know about that. I have managed to rig a toon figure with out a single JCM thus far and he bends marveslously. I think JCM's are needed when the mesh fights against what the rig wants to do. I'd be interested to see a "realistic" Poser human modeled for articulation as opposed to being modeled with every muscle cut out and learn how well it bends without JCM's. I think it'd be doable but would it be welcome by the community? Probably not. So it's a compromise and that compromise forces JCM's on us (in my opinion).

It would also help things along if we lock the rotation limits so that the figure always bends realistically, providing a pose or something to unlock the figure's limits for those who may need to push a pose beyond realism. With a locked figure, you're less likely to run into situations where the bending doesn't look so great.

Quote - > Quote - Psssssttt...if you're gonna repeat the pic you need to check the nudity checkbox ;) Besides, that's JVRenderer's image, not Teyon's LOL.

Laurie

Is it nude? She's wearing shoes...

:sneaky:

I don't think shoes count if that's the only clothing ;)

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Psssssttt...if you're gonna repeat the pic you need to check the nudity checkbox ;) Besides, that's JVRenderer's image, not Teyon's LOL.

Laurie

Is it nude? She's wearing shoes...

:sneaky:

I don't think shoes count if that's the only clothing ;)

She also has a bracelet on. :)

Quote - I don't think shoes count if that's the only clothing ;)

Quote - She also has a bracelet on. :)

Just test render with custum morph.

She makes quite an impression!

Quote - Just test render with custum morph.

OMG how cute!

I agree on that one!

Often time I have been tempted to complain about a bend not looking 'right' only to try it myself in the mirror to see how it should look and find out that the pose itself is beyond what the normal human body can attain. Also sometimes the bend we think we are trying to do with one joint should really be accomplished with 2 or three joints to look natural. (for instance looking way up is going to invovle the neck head and chest bends and maybe even the abdomen to a small degree)

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It would also help things along if we lock the rotation limits so that the figure always bends realistically, providing a pose or something to unlock the figure's limits for those who may need to push a pose beyond realism. With a locked figure, you're less likely to run into situations where the bending doesn't look so great.

Antonia WM bends very well and has no few if any JCMs, but she also does not have a mesh that heavily follows muscle shapes and contours. To support your point, that is one of the main digs about her - lack of suitability for sculpting. She'll never look like anastasia, but she takes alyson 2 to the cleaners in a pose-off!

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I don't know about that. I have managed to rig a toon figure with out a single JCM thus far and he bends marveslously. I think JCM's are needed when the mesh fights against what the rig wants to do. I'd be interested to see a "realistic" Poser human modeled for articulation as opposed to being modeled with every muscle cut out and learn how well it bends without JCM's. I think it'd be doable but would it be welcome by the community? Probably not. So it's a compromise and that compromise forces JCM's on us (in my opinion).

@JVRenderer What light set up did you use to get such an extraordinary render? Did you do your own setup? If so, please give a scrap to your admirers.

Another Miki 4 render:

Teyon,
You are right.

With a WM, you do not "NEED" JCM's.

Before WM, I made tons of morphs to get bends and movements right.

Now with WM, I deleted most of those, and I have not created a single one since I got PP2012.

In retrospect?
It would have been a lot smarter to just deleted ALL JCM's, before going to WM.

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Yeah well, we didn't have time for that (or so we thought).

@ Teyon and Lau

There are earrings, and the anklet (if you can spot it)

@ Toulouse. I'd love to share, but I didn't keep a journal. I am not really into the technical aspects of the programs I use. I am more a T&E guy. All I can tell you is I had some help.

I used 1 infinite light @ 65% strength and raytrace shadows on. I also used BB's envsphere and enivoback drop (I tweaked the colors of the materials to achieve the background color).

The render setting " cast shadow on, SS on, raytrace bounces at 4, irradiance caching at 50, indirect light quality at 10, pixel samples at 4, min shading rate at .21, max bucket size at 32, min disp bounds at 0, gamma cor at 2.00

The rest is photoshop magic.

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And a little bit of JV magic. LOL

Laurie

@JVRenderer thanks for the information. I agree that post work is important, also.

Take her into ZBrush and you can turn her into just about anything....

Actually, the morph brush ain't too shabby ;).

Laurie

Did you know you could do this to Miki4?

Change her spine morph to 8.

All the best.

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She's an alien! That explains so much.

A skirt I am working on for her. First cloth sim test and render. Long way until it's a usable product. Anyone want it? I'll put it in the freebies section when I finish it. There will be a top that goes with it too.

I can make it "sensual" too, if desired...

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I was thinking 'Species'...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I need to get that shirt/top done. I like this skirt, but maybe it's a bit long?

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Without shoes, it's a little long. With shoes...I think it could be ok but I'm no lady, so take my opinion with a side of salt.

Quote - Without shoes, it's a little long. With shoes...I think it could be ok but I'm no lady, so take my opinion with a side of salt.

Yeah, I think you are right. My wife wears skirts like this, but also wears 4 inch platform heels when she does!

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Better, and now I have a top made. Still working on these. I am not good with sleeves yet, but we will see.

I still need to know: does anybody want these dynamic props? They are pretty simplistic, but I think they work.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I'm a thread killer.... :sad:

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

some wire mesh .jpgs and a poly count of Miki 4 would be helpful.

Thanks

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I finally got her installed today. I think she's cute and a welcome addition to the poser family. She does have man-hands though, which I think is why Teyon's male sculpt looks so good, :D.

@fivecat. Great shot. Would you be kind enough to give your light/render setup? I can get good results in D/S, C4D, and Maxwell. But I've never had much luck with Poser except for Sydd Raven setups.

> Quote - @fivecat. Great shot. Would you be kind enough to give your light/render setup? I can get good results in D/S, C4D, and Maxwell. But I've never had much luck with Poser except for Sydd Raven setups.

Thanks. I started with Pure Render Vol2 by Yanelis at RDNA and made some adjustments. An IBL and two infinites. Attached is a screen-capture of my render settings -- Since I wanted a quick, small render I didn't max out the settings.

Thank you, fivecat.

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