darquevision opened this issue on Oct 13, 2012 · 7 posts
darquevision posted Sat, 13 October 2012 at 3:31 AM
i did have another thread about mimic (which was answered quickly and accuratly) but i felt the topic was slightly different and started a new one.
i am still learning this mimic thing and i am wondering is there a way to bridge it to poser- as in not having to create the pose set for the talking in mimic then take the new file and put it in poser's pose file, reopen poser so it loads the new poses, which is how i have been doing it thus far.
thank you in advance
Gareee posted Sat, 13 October 2012 at 6:41 AM
Poser has talk designer built in. have you looked at that option?
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darquevision posted Sun, 14 October 2012 at 3:11 AM
i think i peaked at it- but honestly i think i forgot that feature. if it is what i think it is then you can load the auto track and it does the same thing as mimic more or less, but it didnt seem to like m3,v3 all that much. seemed geared towards the "standard" characters that came with. i do know mimic really syncs up the mouth with the voice file. walk designer has some issue with some figures and walking eventhough you can import the character base. i have found it gets a little buggy when NOT using james or simon, ect.
however thanks for that reminder i will check the talk designer out.
and thanx for the response
mysticeagle posted Sun, 14 October 2012 at 4:18 AM
ive recently tried talk designer, and i am confused as to the xml config files, are they the equivalent of the mimic dmc files? in all honesty i find that mimic works better, for some reason talk designer seems a little impassive with mouth movements.
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darquevision posted Sun, 14 October 2012 at 5:31 AM
well i just tried talk designer- and for some reason it tells me the voice file is not supported and the file is in .wav format. plus in the drop-down there is only the option for .wav files so i would assume that is the supported format. and the xml files do not seem to support m3 for example( yes i am still working with gen3 characters).
i vaguely remember trying it before and i used simon, but i cant recall what format i used for the voice- i would guess it was .wav.
dnstuefloten posted Mon, 15 October 2012 at 3:31 PM
I think Poser's talk designer only works with stock Poser figures--unless you can find the configuration files for M3 or V4, for instance. I found the V4 config somewhere--dont remember where--and now that figure works, more or less. The V4 config also sort of works for the M4 figure. But I generally prefer Mimic for the DAZ characters. And I like having the PZ2 which I can drop onto the figure anywhere in the Poser timeline. For me the Poser talk designer seems inconsistent, but maybe that's just my lack of experience.
The wav files can be a problem in Mimic too, I discovered. There are several different wav paradigms, and both Poser and Mimic seem to accept only some of them.
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CaptainMARC posted Tue, 16 October 2012 at 6:12 AM
Just my humble opinion, but both Mimic and Talk Designer are rubbish. They'll just about do for a background figure, but that's it.
I use rotoscoping: I film myself speaking the dialog, then match the mouth shape every 5th frame by dialing morphs. Some critical frames (lips meet or part) have to be matched between every 5th frame.
It took ages to begin with, but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty quick.