I would like to start off by asking if the issue of pivot points not saving from one save to the next has been repaired?

Was rigging on the Wall Clock I just released and had to revert to Poser 9 to get it finished as the service pack 3.1 was not allowing me to set a pivot point for the hour and minute hand and have them be in the right location the next time I loaded the figure.

Has that been fixed in the latest service pack?

Tom

Please add any other issue you are having here in this thread and maybe they will be a help to Smith Micro. As you can tell I hate bug report pages as they are a huge pain in the but. Not just at Smith Micro but at Auto Desk as well, the makers of 3D Studio Max.

So it is e-mail or a post group for me.  :-)

So far so good in Poser 2012 with out using any of the service packs, as I am afraid to try any of them now.

Pivots on the wheels of my crane are staying put.

Even saved over the top of the previous version, which is a easy way to tell if the proof is in the pudding, albeit a dangerous one. Just a simple rigg so no real danger, just trying to work through this issue one step at a time before I work production on City Block Twelve.

Tom

there was some thread here in re: how to ensure that object origins could be changed and saved with a file, but I can't find the link.

It should be automatic when you save a file, like it is with out using the service pack.

Just trying to find out if the issue is resolved in the new service pack before I even think about using it.

Still working okay in Poser 2012 Pro with zero service packs. The other fixed issue are still there like the Libtrary window going whitw when I type in a numerical field. Not a huge deal breaker but it was fixed if I remember correctly.

Tom

I have a problem with Parenting a prop with SP3.

Seems to work ok if the prop is a Figure (with body), but not a simple prop like a cup or bottle parented to left or right hand.

The prop flys off axis even though the rotations still read 0.
Same thing happens if you drag the prop to parent in the Hiarchy menu.

I have to do all parenting in a non SP3 version and then back to SP3.

Poser 2012 Win 64 with no other SP installed other than SP3.

I can't confirm that the altered pivot point is lost in the new release (OS X).  in the above, the altered pivot point (new origin) of the hi-res ball was still the same after saving the pz3 file, shutting down poser,  and reloading pz3.  in addition, the altered pivot point (new origin) of the hi-res ball was still the same after saving to a props library, shutting down poser, and reloading altered prop from library.  I didn't try a prop losing its parenting, but this prop reloaded in the same place in both cases.  there may be some issue with that, in case an image can be provided.  the tendency of a prop's location to seem to change as the animatable origin is moved may be a feature, not a bug.

Hi Miss nancy,

Thanks a lot for the post!

That is very encouraging to me, as I really like poser 2012 much better than poser 9.

So many more features for a developer. As an example the Force Limits check box on any of the transform dialog boxes. Saves having to open the .pp2 or .cr2 in a text editer and manually find and set a 0 to a 1.

So the pivot I see in this image is in a new location form the place it was when you loaded the .obj file? Just want to be sure before I take the leap.

Thanks again for the post. :-)

Tom

 

when  poser hi-res ball is loaded,  default origin = (0,0,0).  when origin is made visible and animatable in properties, it can be moved to a new pivot point, which is saved with file or prop in the most recent poser version(s).  if some versions don't do this, it may be another bug related to prop naming on loading or export, to which les referred.

I double-checked.  when poser saves a prop in a pz3 file or to a prop library, the reloaded file or prop retains the altered prop origin.  however, when exporting the prop as wavefront obj, then importing it, origin is reset to default, in the case of the poser hi-res ball.  the wavefront obj export format produces a text file describing the surface (e.g. vertex 3d co-ordinates, UVmap co-ordinates, order) but contains no info on origin, as it's not a solid.  hence the easy way to save these is as pz3 or pp2 file.  I can't say it's a bug, as they're limited by the wavefront format.  maybe one of the other non-poser formats saves origin on export.

Ineed to make a clarification I guess.

import an obj to poser2012 pro

save as a figure

load the figure from the poser root

save the figure im my runtime folder

set the new pivots

save as the same figure in my runtime or as a new name in my runtime

open a new scene

load the figure from my runtime

pivot points are back to where they started.

That is the issue I have with the service packs.

Also noticing that the pivots are in a non centered on the bounding box when I import in the first place.

Such as the drive wheels on my crane. In the side view the drive wheels which are round the pivot point on import is at the top of the bounding box, which is different than any version of Poser up till now.

Tom

then it's a question in re: cr2 file.  does it look like this when repositioning the pivot points? if so, this should allow joint adjustments to be saved.

Not sure what you are talking about in your question.

Tom

I've got no further questions.  just submit your bug report thru the proper channels, and they may wish to see some screen shots.

PP2012 can become unresponsive if you have Multi-threaded Bending turned on. As I have a quad core machine, I only noticed it when loading a Genesis figure via DSON, but, as a general rule of thumb it's best to turn it off.

It's also worth uninstalling it and reinstalling it when a service release comes out. Last night, I uninstalled and reinstalled PP2012 and then only installed SR3.1 and it all runs a lot more smoothly. Stuff getting overwritten time after time probably messes things up so a clean install is likely to be better.

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Something else you can check in Windows 7 is if you truly have the program running as administrator. Although if you click the 'Advanced' tab under properties on the shortcut you can select 'Run as administrator', I don't think this truly runs the program itself as an administrator.

If you go into the Program Files directory for PP2012 and click the PoserPro.exe file, bring up properties and look at the Compatibility tab. Where it says Privelege Level, check 'Run as administrator' there and the program itself and not just the shortcut is running as administrator.

I tried it on PP2012 and it launches far quicker than it used to. I also tried it on other programs that were slow and they were better too.

Try it for yourselves

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I have been seeing and still am seeing a possible bug when Poser writes a .cr2 or a .pp2

In the materials sometimes there are a lot of these strings which seem to be going around in circle.

:Runtime:Geometries:Dreamland_Models:2005Mustang:..:..:..:textures:dreamland_models:2005mustang:

Should read like this.

 :Runtime:textures:dreamland_models:2005mustang:

Every time I re-save a version of a figure or a prop, Poser writes it the wrong way again and I have to do a (search and replace all)  for the .cr2 or the .pp2 in a text editor. ( TextPad, a programmers note pad program)

Sure  sounds like a bug to me. has been happenning for at least

for Poser 2012 Pro

Poser 9 and don't remember if it was happening in Poser8 or 7.

Darn old brain of mine. :-)

It is repeatable, as it happens every time I save a prop, or a figure.

Tom

That really does sound like something Smith Micro should be aware of, they can't fix bugs if they don't know about them.

File a report with them and then, if they fix it, and perhaps release a fix, everybody can benefit from it.

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I still it think it's weird that closing the group editor causes Poser to move to the background when I have other apps open.  The first time it happened I thought it was a PTD (poof to desktop crash), but no, the program just decided to promote another app's window for no apparent reason.

The Symmetry for IK enabled limbs doesn't work, either left to right or right to left, for both arms and legs, when IK is on PP 2012 won't do it correctly, it will apply the symmetry to the shoulder and forearm but not the hand, same with the legs, it will copy the thigh and shin symmetry from one leg to the other but not the feet, this however can be solved turning IK off but this is a waste of time at least for me since I like to work on posing with IK turned on at all times, and this started happening since the first SR.

Also the Undo option from the Edit menu will not catch all the changes or it "forgets" all the changes made from time to time.

What gives?

Hello,

I also have a problem with PoserPro2012. Whenever I delete something (figure or prop), my preview window is broken. Only a small fraction of the screen at the right side is updated. Changing camera position or zooming makes this obvious.

I first thought it's a problem of my video driver, but after 2 updates I still have the same problem. Then I thought it's my graphics hardware, but now I have changed that (from GTX 470 to GTX 680), still the same problem. I had it for PoserPro2012 initial version through all service packs. Does anyone have the same problem, or any hint what further possible reason it could have? The problem is reproducable, and it persists until I switch to the Render tab and back to Preview. Then I'm fine until I delete the next figure / prop...

Best regards,

   Michael

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not something I've come across I'm afraid. Smith Micro need to hear about these issues, if they persist after service packs are installed then they are something that need to be included in further ones.

If they don't know about it, they can't fix it.

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Actually I've seen the screen issue too, but I notice that only happens, at least in my case, if you have another screen on top or behind PP 2012 then if you change parameter dials or move from Poser's window to another window the preview creen will stop updating, or it will only update where those windows don't overlap with the preview window or sometimes is the other way around where ovelaping is the only section that updates (like the one 2 posts above this), what I do is to keep evrything minimized or closed and leave Poser as the only active window to avoid that screen issue.

I have a Geforce GTX 560 and Windows 7.

Well, if you've both got Nvidia cards then there must be something awry there somewhere. I would definitely contact Smith Micro about it. They are very helpful and have been my first port of call when things go wrong.

I asked them if browsers can conflict with Poser due to the way they handle Flash and they said that Safari was a good one. I've used it ever since and can run PP2012 side by side with it without issues. Google Chrome and Firefox aren't good, but, you need IE around to dowload and install Flash updates.

Good luck guys

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I can confirm the issue as well. I think it is a Windows issue or NVidia, as both of my cards are NVidia. it happens with Fire Fox as well which leads me to think it is not Posers fault.

Tom

 

I'd lean towards an NVidia issue if it's affecting other programs. Perhaps you should contact them, perhaps you need new drivers.

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 Hi,

thanks a lot. So with at least 2 others having an issue around this, it's definitely not something completely broken on my computer. I tested the suggestion with the other windows (I usually have lots of windows open, so that could be a reason), but nope, even if Poser is the only application running, I have this issue.

I played around a bit more, and found that it occurs in fullscreen as well as window mode. However, the horizontal preview window size seems to have an effect: at smaller widths, the problem does not occur. I will find out, what the critical width is, and then file a bug report.

Best regards,

   Michael

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do you render to specific dimensions or whatever size the preview window happens to be once you've moved the UI around?

I always render to specific dimensions, so, perhaps if you guys do you'll get results.

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Hi,

I submitted a ticket now at SmithMicro.

Yes, I use specific render dimensions (landscape or portrait, depending on the scene).  But the problem does not appear in the render, it's only in the preview screen.

 

Best regards,

    Michael  

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yeah, something that I forgot about,

Does anyone else keep getting double entries showing up in their library?

It loads as normal, then, it flickers and suddenly you get 2 of everything. It goes away if you refesh the library. That's been happening since day 1 and doesn't change with the service releases.

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Hi,

yes, I have that when I unpack items into the runtime while Poser is running, and then refresh the library. With the original release, this was accompanied with subsequent crashes, that no longer happens. Poser is very stable, it just shows the library entries twice.

Re my previous bug, I'm in active discussion with John from customer support. I went through 4 different graphics drivers, and different scenes. The bug occurs with the factory "Andy" scene as well, but only if other scenes were loaded before. Seems to relate to some memory issue, Poser not cleaning up all items with "New". A good indicator for the problem is that "collect scene inventory" produces some PMD files which definitely do not belong to the current scene.

Best regards,

   Michael  

 

 

 

 

 

Yay, not just me then!

One thing occurred to me about this, PP2012 is 64 bit, but, Flash is 32 bit, not sure if that has anything to do with it though. Adobe did do a beta of a 64 bit version of Flash, but, the latest version is still 32 bit.

On the whole, I think there was nothing wrong with the old pre flash library that P8 had or was it 7? That was really stable and I never had any issues at all with it.

I've filed a bug report at SM as, if it's something they've never fixed with service releases, maybe they never knew it needed fixing.

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PS (Has anyone ever found a use for Andy!?)

Not a bug per say but an omission. Older versions of Poser if memory serves correctly had the option to expand the material dialog boxes so I could see all of the check boxes at a glance instead of having to scroll through to save a .mc6 file. When I am doing hundreds of files for one car it gets a little annoying to have to do so.

Please change the dialog boxes back to expandable and have them stay the same size through a whole Poser session or even better yet have them saved with Poser as a default for the next session.

Same applies to all dialog boxes in Poser, such as saving a .pp2 file. Would be nice to be able to expand and save the size there as well.

Tom

Just occured to me that it would be nice to add a use last selection check box to the dialog box so I can save 45 different color schemes for a car ( as an example) with out having to choose the material zones every time I change the color for the next .mc6.

Guess that is more of a wishlist item but hey at least you are reading this. :-)

Tom

 

The rest of us are, but, I don't think Smith Micro are.

You're best off making those suggestions to them.

 

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Trust me Smith Micro is reading this thread. They are listening but if you think of it from their point of view what ever they say in public is taken as written in stone, so they have to be very carful what they say. So nothing in here is the safe way to go.

Also think that if they improve the software and you see it for yourself then that goes a lot farther than empty promises, right?

Also you have to know that Smith Micro has share holders that have to be reported to so the process can be a very long one. what gets asked today might be 6 months or a year before you see the results.

Also the changes have to be justified as a valid request that will suit most users not just a few.

Like my above request for a tick box to save the last selection might be a long shot to see it happen unless, (1) it is an easy change with little time involved = $, (2) It makes sense to add it.

So as you can see they do listen it is just not very often you will see a responce to the comments made here.

They are being heard. :-)

So keep those reports coming.

I am not discouraging the bug reports in the proper channels.

I just like the feedback from users such as yourself to see how my ideas are received.

Tom

 

I hear you,

I'm in the process of my bug report right now. There seems to be some confusion about the Flash Player. They say you need to have a 64 bit one installed for the library to work in PP2012. Adobe haven't made a 64 Bit Flash Player fully available and the latest version you can download, even if you open Internet Explorer 64 Bit is a 32 bit one.

The library in PP2012 works, so, it has to be utilising the 32 bit Flash Player. If you switch to an external library, this utilises Adobe Air, but, it doesn't cure the double entry issue.

To me, there's an issue in the way that PP2012 utilises the Adobe programs and not the Adobe programs themselves.

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Tom - thank you for this note and thread - yes we do read these and yes, commenting is challenging. My apologies for not being able to dig in more frequently.

Cooper

 

Quote - Trust me Smith Micro is reading this thread. They are listening but if you think of it from their point of view what ever they say in public is taken as written in stone, so they have to be very carful what they say. So nothing in here is the safe way to go.

Also think that if they improve the software and you see it for yourself then that goes a lot farther than empty promises, right?

Also you have to know that Smith Micro has share holders that have to be reported to so the process can be a very long one. what gets asked today might be 6 months or a year before you see the results.

Also the changes have to be justified as a valid request that will suit most users not just a few.

Like my above request for a tick box to save the last selection might be a long shot to see it happen unless, (1) it is an easy change with little time involved = $, (2) It makes sense to add it.

So as you can see they do listen it is just not very often you will see a responce to the comments made here.

They are being heard. :-)

So keep those reports coming.

I am not discouraging the bug reports in the proper channels.

I just like the feedback from users such as yourself to see how my ideas are received.

Tom

Told you guys they are listening, so ner!

:-)

They are just very busy.

Tom

 

I didn't dispute the fact after you mentioned it.

Anyway, the library issue is an ongoing one and I wouldn't mind some outside input from knowledgable users as to what the cause might be.

When I open PP2012 and begin using it as normal, the librarys are still loading. I can load a figure and be ready to pose it and the Pose library hasn't finished loading. When I scroll down to a pose set I want to use and hit the refesh button I can then open and load the pose I want. Moments after I've done that the library flickers and displays double entries for that folder. (See screenshot.)

I think it's a Flash issue, what does anyone else think!?

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Hi Rogerbee1,

Was just trying to let everyone know, with out a doubt, Smith Micro is listening.

Was just being a dufus with the ner. I just think that ner sounds funny. :-)

I have had issues with the library having double copies until I select the top level and use the refresh arrow circle thing then everything goes back to normal.

Have no idea why Poser is having a brain fart like that. Glad you reported it.

I think you are most likely right about it being a flash issue. I think flash has to try and cover way too many bases so to speak and Poser is getting lost between the cracks.

One size fits all on the internet can be a daunting task.

I have only noticed this behavior in Poser. No other programs.

Tom

 

Great minds think alike,

I was told that they used Flash for the library as it was the only way they could incorporate the features for the library that people had suggested. You do wonder if said people are wishing they'd shut up instead.

I looked at Daz Studio, in particular a video on their library. It looks way more comprehensive than Poser's and has a lot more features. I looked through forum  threads to see if anyone had been complaining about the library and couldn't see any. I've delved into their bug reports too and issues there concerning the library don't seem major.

It'd be interesting to know what Daz use to implement their library......

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Quote -  

Great minds think alike,

I was told that they used Flash for the library as it was the only way they could incorporate the features for the library that people had suggested. You do wonder if said people are wishing they'd shut up instead.

I looked at Daz Studio, in particular a video on their library. It looks way more comprehensive than Poser's and has a lot more features. I looked through forum  threads to see if anyone had been complaining about the library and couldn't see any. I've delved into their bug reports too and issues there concerning the library don't seem major.

It'd be interesting to know what Daz use to implement their library......

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I don't have the issues you mentioned so for me the p8/p9 library is a lot more easy and faster as the old one. 

Regarding the DS library system - I dislike that one because it has a single view and is limited in its customization. There is one product which took the DS library interface into Poser for selection of materials. I found that one pretty hard to use (horizontal scrolling)

I guess everyone has their own preferences on how the library should work. It would be a big mistake to make them all the same.

 

 

The P8 library is indeed faster, SM had me install it on my machine to see if the issue happened there when I linked my PP2012 runtime to it. It didn't as, even with all the content in the PP2012 runtime,  the Pose library loaded really quickly meaning that I didn't need to refresh the folder I wanted to open.

I have 2 laptops on which PP2012 is installed, and, when you launched it for the first time, the Pose library loaded really slowly on both of them and the same issue with the double entries occurred when I refreshed the folder I wanted to open. This surely has to mean that there is something in PP2012 that is causing the library to load slowly. The P8 library was really fast no matter when you loaded the program.

P8 is 32bit as is P9, I still wonder if there's something about PP2012 being 64 bit that is causing problems.

To anyone else with PP2012, how long does the Pose library take to load when you open it having lauched the program for the first time!? Do you just wait for it or try and refresh a particular folder that you want to open?

I just want to get to the bottom of this. There may not be anything they can do for PP2012, but, there could be something to address in PP2013.

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I have the "reopen folders" option disabled.

So when poser starts (3 seconds), the library opens with nothing open. Each folder which I open fills iimmediately. If I have a very large folder (800 sub folders) and scroll to the bottom and open a subfolder there, it takes 2-3 seconds to fill the new folder.

If you have reopen folders enabled, the library will go through all open folders and that may take a long time if you have a large number of them open the previous time you used Poser.

I use the air version because I like ability to minimize it to the task bar

 

 

I found Reopen Folders on mine and it isn't checked, I wonder, should I check it and see what happens...

Back in a bit...

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With Reopen folders unchecked, and the path tooltip turned off, with 413 folders in the Pose library, it took over 2 1/2 minutes to load down to the folder I wanted to open. My processor is an Intel i5 quad core and I've got 6gb of RAM, surely that should mean the library loads quicker than that!?

So, the question remains, what is slowing it down!? Turning off the Item List panel makes no difference either.

That was running it after booting. I just loaded it again after typing that paragraph and it loaded in seconds. It's all in that first time load up. I'm getting somewhere here.....

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In general preferences I have search set to narrow (should not make any difference, bu that is what I have it set at)

In library options I have

----General------

Always on Top - off

ReOpen - off

Show Tool tip - On

Tooltip delay - half

Show Folder counts - On

==Display-----

Tree - On

Item list panel - On

Extended Details - On

Breadcrumbs - On

Ticker - off

---Tree--------

Thumb size minimal

Selected size - half

Show Item details - On

Tree Indient - little

Show Folder thimbnaisl - Off

------List------

Thiimbnail size - Max

Label Height - Min

Gap - Half

-----Details-------

Show Image - On

Max Image size - half

 

It doesn't seem to matter what I turn on or turn off. If I run Poser once, the library is slow, if I close Poser and then open it again it's fine.

What is it with that first load that is making it slow!? I can restart the laptop as many times as I like, when I run Poser for the first time the library is slow.

I just don't get it. If closing and reopening it is what have to do for it to run issue free then so be it, unless you or Smith Micro have other ideas.....

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I wonder if there is some sort of caching taking place. If you start up from a fresh reboot it has to read in all the folders again. If you restart all of these folders are still in memory or in temp files, or maybe in virual memory on disk.

Disks on laptops are not the fastest ones (slow rpm to conserve battery poser), add to that the possible fragmention of folders and it will go slower.

If I start poser from another machine with the library attached as external runtime over a network, it is definitely slower - but nowhere near as bad as you experience. In the case I described above, time to get that last folder filled would take 10-20 seconds. This is on a gigabit network which slows down for small file access to about 100-200mbps. Reading folders is a lot of small reads.

But if the above is the case, I don't see a way to improve that

 

 

Yeah, I do kind of get what you're saying, but, it's like this on 2 different laptops. Different processor, different hard drive, different amounts of RAM. Same caches though I suppose as they both run 64 bit Windows 7 and everything is installed in the same place. Even with a full, and I mean FULL, defrag the library has been slow on first load. The other thing is that anything else I load post boot is always fast, email, browsers, Word, Photoshop. If the drive was badly fragmented they'd all be slow, wouldn't they!?

Thing is though, as I mentioned earlier, I installed P8 alongside it and linked it to the PP2012 runtime. No matter when I loaded that the library was super fast. Something added to the PP2012 library is doing this somehow.

Hmmmm, I've added what I said in my previous post to my bug report, so, I'll see if they have any suggestions.

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Hmm, there's no cache for the library, only the XML's. The only caches are for undo, renders and textures.

Something has got to come to mind that will solve this....

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The library issue is solved!!

The folders where Poser has caches weren't indexed. Open the relevant AppData folder and run a search, if you have a message coming up that the folder isn't indexed, follow the instructions and add it to the index.

It's great how the issues that are staring you in the face and are the simplest to fix are the last ones you think of!

Hallelujah!!

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Yep, it's all in the indexing, basically, go to every AppData folder (you have to have 'access hidden files and folders' checked) you can find and run a search (top right box) if it asks if you want to index it, do it. It sped everything up, not just Poser. I used to wonder why Windows Live Mail was always slow at checking emails, it was the caches, they weren't indexed.

Now every folder I know of that has caches is indexed, it's like having a new computer again!

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No sure if I reported this one but here goes any way.

In any program I have used, Maya, Max, Cinema 4D, the objects center point is ALWAYS at the center of the objects bounding box, unless the program has options to move the pivot point.

Now all of a sudden Poser has decided to put the point at the center but also at the very top of the bounding box. Much to my surprise a wheel for one of my cars has the pivot point at the top of the wheel.

Why?

But here is the really strange part.

Some objects the pivot point is at the center but at the very bottom of the part.

Why?

Has anyone else noticed this issue?

Keep in ming this is on a figure.

Just now noticed that parts that ar below the overall center of the car the point is at the top, parts that are above the center of the car are at the bottom of the part.

Go figure.

Tom

Is there any one here who uses keyboard shortcuts?

Once again in most programs I have found you can modify the keyboard shortcuts.

When I use ctrl L I see my scene spining in a circle instead of what I would expect the left view.

It is so burned into me to use it that every time I have to use the ctrl : to get the left view.

Not whinning, just saying it would be nice to be able to change the keyboard shortcuts to suit ones work flow.

Tom

Once again sorry if I have reported this issue.

As long as I can remember when you select the Window drop down and choose Joint Editor the ZYX offset dials do not show up until I choose another view or zoom in or out a little. I set a lot of pivot points and it would be nice if this issue were fixed.

They should also be visable if in the properties tab I have ticked the Display origin check box.

Tom

Quote - Not whinning, just saying it would be nice to be able to change the keyboard shortcuts to suit ones work flow.

Tom

I haven't done it , Tom, but here's how...

http://www.keindesign.de/stefan/poser/tricks.html

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The file looks like something I will not fool around with.

Thanks any way.

Tom

 

I agree, that's like doing open heart surgery with a pair of household tweezers. You could probably do it, but one wouldn't recommend it!

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Still seeing an issue in the heirarchy dialog box.

If I select a figure in the dialog,  the figure is not selected in the viewport.

I have to go to the drop down menu in the preview window and choose the figure in that menu.

Is this intentional behavour?

Seems like the program should be unified in all of the menus.

Also. Thanks for not making this thread into, a hate filled, flame war.

The whole intention of the is thread, is for helping to improve the program. :-)

So thank all of you who are posting.

Tom

I can't say I've ever used that dialog box myself. I select figure parts using the dropdowns just near the preview window.

Is anyone using PP2012 in Windows 8 right now!? I'm seriously mulling over taking advantage of the seemingly amazing 'Upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8 Pro for £14.99' offer and have yet to find any reasons why I shouldn't go for it.

If PP2012 runs well in it then I really could bite the bullet and go for it. Anyone!?

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Bite and save  install for later.

While you can get a good price.

Unless you have no plans to upgrade.

Smith micro will have to adapt to the new OS.

Tom

 

I guess,

I have already found one guy saying that PP2012 crashes when he imports a Genesis figure and tries to pose it when using Windows 8.

There's a reply in the RDNA forums about something as well, but I can't locate the thread!

The offer runs till the end of February so there's time for things to be sorted out.

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Hello, I just can say that posting a ticket at SM is a waste of time. I have outlined two potential problems with Poser (preview window display incorrect for NVIDIA, and "New" not deleting all data from old scenes), and after walking through at least 5 different graphics driver installs (and 2 different video cards, all showing the same bug), support insisted that it is a permission problem (none of my runtimes lives on C:).

After pointing out that the bug occurs with even Poser included content, I was informed that the scene used (The Pad) is not suitable for testing.

I'm fed up, I will just continue to live with the bug. 

Best regards,

   Michael

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S.:  I suspect a connection to the famous "NO_MAP" bug, in my case it was related to an object "none".

 

I haven't come across what you describe, so I can't really comment. Smith Micro have been quite (I can't quite say very) helpful when it comes to the issues I've had.

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This is more of a feature request than a bug report.

I would love to see this added to the save materials dialog in the case of saving set after set of the same selection of material names in an .mc6 file.

Can be done with this dialog mock up or.....

Or in this dialgog which is preferable, because it is one less dialog box to open and many less clicks.

Would be great on things like my cars and trucks where I am saving sometimes over a hundred .mc6 files. Very tedious work when I have to select each material every time I save another version of a cars finish.

Also would elimiate human error.

Also would still like to see the expandable dialog boxes come back, as then I can see the whole list of materials at a glance.

Would be nice as well to have the dialog box size save from session to session.

Tom

 

Interesting,

Not really done much with materials save for loading everyone else's.

I got Windows 8 in the end, and, after much tinkering, I really like it. PP2012 runs and has only crashed once, but I think that was due to corrupt xmls so I've deleted them and started afresh.

When I spoke to SM about the issue the other guy had, they said that PP2012 was fully compatible with Win 8 and it was a DSON problem. Daz said that not many of them had Win 8 so they hadn't tested DSON in it.

Thank god nothing happened to me or they'd still be debating it in February!

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An FYI

My resources were not appearing in Poser Pro 2012 -- all of a sudden. It said to dowload the latest version with a link that didn't work very well..  on the troubles went.

If anybody is having trouble updating Flash player there are some real problems updating in both IE and Firebox.  I searched and searched, Googling and Bing'ing...

This install worked FINALLY, after all kind of "time out" failures.

This install does not depend on Active X.

http://ezref.info/Download+Timeout+at+12%25+when+downloading+Adobe+Flash+Player.html

 

Flash is one thing I don't have problems with in Windows 8, it's embedded into IE and once it's in, that's it, it's in. It appear that it's 64 bit too which it never was in Windows 7. People with Windows 7 would bang on about having 64 bit Flash, they didn't! There was a dialog box on the Adobe site which told them which version of Windows they had, not Flash! In Control Panel when you looked at Hardware and Sound, right at the bottom was a listing for Abobe Flash Player and plain for all to see, in brackets it said 32 Bit! Had there been 64 bit Flash installed, that would have said 64 bit, end of!

There is also 64 bit Flash in Waterfox, but, it's a specially coded plug-in version for that browser alone and is downloaded and installed from the Waterfox site and not Adobe's.

So far, touch wood, aside from stupid things I've done myself, I haven't had any issues with Windows 8 and I'd highly recommend upgrading. You will have a fun time locating drivers but, once you do, it's a great piece of kit.

I'd recommend a clean install of PP2012 with the Runtime in your Documents library.

Have a creative 2013

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I have noticed this issue on several occasions. Working away in Poser Pro 2012 for a while and starting and stopping test renders or site image renders and Poser will go through the pre pass just fine then go through part of the final render and stop with the same popup you see when a render is complete but I only see something like the image you see here.

Having to resort to close Poser and start it again to do a render and hope like crazy it finishes. This has happened on many occasions but I just never go around to reporting it until now.

Steve I know you are reading this. Please have the guys look into this one soon as it is a time waster fopr me. I hate to waste time. Grrrrrrr.

By the way that is my friendly Grrrrrr. :-)

Just don't call me while I am taking a nap!!!

Then you will get my angry Grrrrrr. :-)

Tom

By the way Rendo, Thank you for making this thread sticky. I think it has been a nice friendly thread. :-)

Tom

Just was remeinded of another issue I have been running accross. Not all the time but sometimes when I save a file and then close Poser 2012 it crashes. Why, oh, why, does this happen?

:-)

Tom

 

You really have to file a bug report or two with Smith Micro themselves. There are too many dependent factors that it would take mere users months to work it out. They will at least have tested everything and will have more of a handle on what is likely to be going on. You can't just soldier on with an unsolved issue.

I haven't personally experienced anything like what you describe

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Well, since I've installed Windows 8 pro 64 bit, the library functions poorly if at all. I know many hate it but I've used it all the time in the past with Vista and Win 7 with no problems. Both Windows 8 and PoserPro 2012 are a clean install too, so I don't understand the problem but it's definately there. I've had to use Library Manager 2.5 to be able to do anything. Luckily the library did work once, so I was able to add all my runtimes and if not for that  moment, I wouldn't be able to use Poser at all. It was a poor decision to code poser so the library is necessary to add runtimes, should've been under preferences in the main program. And yes Adobe air is the latest build as well as PoserPro 2012 with patch 3.1.

 

If you describe the problem, perhaps we can help. If you go back a page or two there are library issues discussed and some solutions. PP2012 works fine for me now.

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In the meantime, runtimes can be added by adding the path of the external runtime to LibraryPrefs.xml...

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Thanks, I'll check on the above info and thanks to WandW too. I will definately keep that in mind. I tried running Poser and the Library in Win 7 compatiblity mode but the situation hasn't changed.

Just was remeinded of another issue in Poser pro 2012. When I go to set the pivots points on my city block sets for the block itself I want the pivot to be at the exact world 0 0 0.

When I highlight either the OriginZ OriginY or OriginX sometimes the bounding box has the field showing somewhere around zero but more like 0.000008

So next I highlight the field and type in 0

Then check it again and the 0.000008 is there again.

So next I type in 50.0 and then highlight once more and type in 0

Then I check it and the field now after all this finally says 0.000

Why?

Have been seeing this issue for several versions of Poser.

I know it does not sound like a big deal but take a city block and rotate it around a 0.000008 center point and the far cornor can be off by a  1/2 inch or so.

So the line up perfectly thing is not any longer a valid statement.

Please have someone check it out Steve, okay?

Oh and for those who insist that I file a bug report I have already discussed my mental issues with Steve and he understands that will continue to post my issues here, so please stop embarassing me and telling me I have to report my issues to Smith Micro, I do not, okay?

My A.D.D. makes it next to impossible to get through all the fields without forgetting the issue I want to explain. I have to do it right now like I am doing right now, or it will be gone forever or at least until the next time it happens.

Also I am a very busy person and do not have time to write it all down and then go through all the hoops in the ____ forums.

Now I hope I got my point across about the bug I was talking about as I got sidetracked by explaining this mental condition of mine. :-) Sorry

Tom

Not a big deal but I notice sometimes you will load something that has missing textures and it ask if you want to keep looking for them, you say no. But the program keeps popping up windows in and endless loop till you end task Poser.  Actually I have seen many past versions of Poser also do this. It must be a big pain to Poser.

 

The only other thing I notice is that search engine seems a lil glitchy to me. It seems to have a mind of its on sometimes and things I have documented in a text file that yielded results before will not find anything and I must try other searches.

That has happened in the past, though not often.

What I do is make a note of what it's trying to to find and make sure it's installed, if it isn't I install it. Sometimes though, the artist has decided not to use that texture and has renamed it without changing the mat pose. In that case just use that texture and point the mat pose to it when it asks where the other one is.

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I'd like Poser to remember more that one load/save location.  When loading a texture it would be nice if the requestor automatically redirected to where the current texture in use is located, as often times the new texture will be in the same folder (figure skin, clothing, etc.).  I'd prefer it to keep separate my recent folders for scenes, imported objects, and textures (from the mat room).

Also, saving a scene from the menu should update the thumb in the library.

I could not agree more on that!

Save a render then go to load a texture Poser directs to where I saved the render. That is just plain wrong.

Tom

Quote - I could not agree more on that!

Save a render then go to load a texture Poser directs to where I saved the render. That is just plain wrong.

Tom

I knew I'd forgotten one of the more annoying instances of that behaviour!

Let's see...  It's stuff that's not in the library.  I think Poser should remember last locations for:

*Scenes

*Imported/Exported Objects

*Exported Images

*Exported Videos

*Imported Textures

 

I don't work with motion files, so I don't know if they have that problem as well.  I'm assuming that Poser only remembers one directory at a time.

It would be nice to actually specify the default paths for each of these item types.

 

 

 

 

Here's one...  I was adjusting a hair prop and it having trouble with the hairline.  I didn't want to render a whole image, so I used the area render.  I selected the area render too while looking at my render, and found I could re-render a part of an image.  Cool.

But there was a blue border around the area re-rendered.  Not so cool.

 

 

I simply can't get my runtime library to load unless I'm online and that works when poser wants it and 90% of the time it simply won't. Is there a way to have poser pro 2012 load a library offline at all like the older posers did? Because I'm very limited with my net connection and that's a real problem for me. Other than that I had no problems with it so far, thought I never got the chance to really test it much without a library loading. Good thing I still use poser7 because I'm not really happy with this poser versions asking me to always be online or else it won't work! It strange too, because when I first installed it, it wasn't bothering me to get online at all other then the registry part, only after a few days did that start to become a problem!

Well, you can refresh a newly added folder which will get rid of duplicate entries.

Quote - I simply can't get my runtime library to load unless I'm online and that works when poser wants it and 90% of the time it simply won't. Is there a way to have poser pro 2012 load a library offline at all like the older posers did?

Yes, there is. Just click OK on the error message. If that does not work it's probably your firewall settings that prevent it. Search in this forum for 'library' and for user 'bagginsbill' - there should be some explaination.

My issue with PP 2014 is the preview window gets stuck in one display mode while I switch among the various Toon and Comic Book modes.

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Quote - > Quote - I simply can't get my runtime library to load unless I'm online and that works when poser wants it and 90% of the time it simply won't. Is there a way to have poser pro 2012 load a library offline at all like the older posers did?

Yes, there is. Just click OK on the error message. If that does not work it's probably your firewall settings that prevent it. Search in this forum for 'library' and for user 'bagginsbill' - there should be some explaination.

Hi and thanks for a response! Sadly, I did set all my firewalls to let anything pass from poserpro 2012, but still nothing. I searched what you suggested here in the forums, but that too didn't work, nothing came up with those searches. But I appreciate the help. :)

Maybe I should get one of the shaderworks library plug-ins, in hopes it doesn't load from the poser library first!

Since we are now working with Poser 10/2014 is there any point in this thread being left up?

Maybe change the name to 2014?

Up to you. :-)

Tom

You can't change the titles of threads. Wish we could! I'm thinking about "unstickying" it. That leaves the thread available in searches, but directs questions on the new software to the correctly titled thread.

Good idea.