NanetteTredoux opened this issue on Oct 19, 2012 · 119 posts
NanetteTredoux posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 12:35 AM
For those who are interested in non-Genesis figures - BVH has released Cynthia at www.bvh3d.com. The base figure is free, the full version costs just under ten dollars. The full version comes with three full body morphs and a number of face shaping and expression morphs.
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LaurieA posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 1:24 AM
Is it my imagination or does she look crosseyed?
Laurie
JohnDoe641 posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 1:47 AM
Quote - Is it my imagination or does she look crosseyed?
Laurie
That's the first thing I noticed as well.
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PhilC posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 3:02 AM
I'm not seeing the link to the free base version. When I click on the banner it just takes me to the 9.99 page.
Snarlygribbly posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 3:18 AM
Quote - I'm not seeing the link to the free base version. When I click on the banner it just takes me to the 9.99 page.
The free link is near the bottom of the page, within the text that sits just above the 'Cynthia P7 Hair' thumbnail.
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PhilC posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 3:20 AM
OK found it near the bottom of the page.
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 4:20 AM
Hmmmm! Not sure about certain morphs, plus.......
If you put out a new figure PLEASE put in a DEV rig so that people can make things.
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lesbentley posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 7:32 AM
Quote - Is it my imagination or does she look crosseyed?
Yes definitely crosseyed! The breasts are a bit big and cartoonie for my taste, though I'm sure that will appeal to many. That said, as far as I can judge from promo images alone, she looks like she may be a better quality than some other recent new figures. And the fact that she is a real woman, not neutered, has to be a big plus.
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 7:54 AM
I'll use the base, I don't need those certain "other" morphs as I have no use for them.
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ockham posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 9:10 AM
Looks like a man.
NanetteTredoux posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 10:01 AM
I like her, I can work with her. I have taken the head into Blender - the poly density is high enough that I can sculpt easily. I don't think she is cross-eyed, but the eyes need to be lowered about five degrees or so.
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bagginsbill posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 1:00 PM
SceneFixer - reveal dials - xtran the eyes - no more cross.
But there are bigger issues. The texture has burned-in specular on the lips that, when plugged into Scatter for SSS, is the worst disease you've ever seen.
It's DIFFUSE COLOR, PEOPLE - THE YEAR is 2012 - NO MORE SHIT NEED BE ADDED TO OUR SUPPLY.
Also, the UV mapping of the iris is disjoint from the sclera, and the resulting hard edge looks worse than anything I've ever seen.
Also, the cornea overlaps the sclera. If you're trying realistic eyes, with fresnel reflections, properly implemented on cornea and sclera, the overlap will cause a ring of double strength reflections.
Not worth downloading, IMO. There are so many other great options.
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PhilC posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 1:18 PM
Did you purchase the full version or are you basing your views on the free lower resolution base version?
NanetteTredoux posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 1:55 PM
I won't be using the supplied texture with the specular on the lips, I'll be making my own, and enjoying doing it. As for the problem with the eyes, I don't think I am sophisticated enough to see it.
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bagginsbill posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 1:58 PM
Quote - Did you purchase the full version or are you basing your views on the free lower resolution base version?
Free.
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PhilC posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 2:30 PM
The web page and readme state:-
"Cynthia loads into your scene and renders faster than most Poser figures.
If you're working on that huge project with a short deadline and need a Poser figure that wouldn't take hours to render, then Cynthia 1.0 is your choice!
Here are the items you get with your purchase of Cynthia 1.0:
- Cynthia 1.0 figure
- associated High-Res (4096 x 4096) textures files
- associated geometry mesh
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The free version comes with only 4 body textures each sized at 2048 x 2048 and one head parts texture sized at 1024 x 1024. No bump, no diffuse, no bells and whistles, just a basic set of low resolution maps. Enough so that you can preview the figure.
So the artist burned in some highlights into the low resolution preview, big whoop.
I feel that this figure has potential. I will certainly be looking into using it in more detail.
Tunesy posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 7:31 PM
It's a very nice figure. Honestly, some of the hyper-criticism in Poserland borders on oddball fetishism. Who gives a shit if the "cornea overlaps the sclera"?? A Poser render is recognizable from a mile away regardless.
LaurieA posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 8:59 PM
You would know what BB is talking about if you saw it closely enough. You can see a very distinct bright shiny ring around the iris that look immediately "wrong". And everyone has an opinion yanno, whether it agrees with yours or not ;). That's just human nature. Some folks have higher standards. Nothing wrong with that.
FWIW, you forgot to tick the language box. LOL
Laurie
randym77 posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 9:47 PM
Quote - Honestly, some of the hyper-criticism in Poserland borders on oddball fetishism. Who gives a shit if the "cornea overlaps the sclera"?? A Poser render is recognizable from a mile away regardless.
I think EZskin and SSS have done a great deal to make Poser renders...well, less creepy. We're all used to it so probably don't notice it as much, but ordinary people are often creeped out by Poser's "doll eyes." The new shaders do a lot to fix that.
So if a new figure is not set up well to use them...I would consider it a serious drawback, and do not think it's hypercritical to mention.
Doesn't mean I would not give this figure a chance, but I don't think it's wrong to discuss the problems.
smallspace posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 10:36 PM
Know for a fact that BVH isn't using the latest version of Poser, so he might not have access to the latest bells and whistles.
Doubt if there's anything wrong with the figure that can't be fixed by all the talent here and by BVH himself. Ask yourself: is the rigging good...how does the figure bend? Are there enough polys and are they distributed well? Is the mapping easy to work with?
BVH made his rep creating clothing, so I'd expect there will some good outfits for her. PhilC seems to like her, so I expect WW support and possibly OBJ2CR2 support will be forthcoming.
All in all, even though there is a glut of new female figures on the market, I'd like to see this one succeed.
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SamTherapy posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 10:47 PM
Quote - ...The flood of new character choices in the resent months is unbelieveable!!! **
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I don't believe you. :)
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randym77 posted Fri, 19 October 2012 at 11:05 PM
Quote - All in all, even though there is a glut of new female figures on the market, I'd like to see this one succeed.
I think that's going to be really difficult for a figure that doesn't advantage of Poser's latest bells and whistles, like SSS and weight-mapping.
NanetteTredoux posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 12:31 AM
I am also astounded by the negativity.
Well, let me say why I do like her:
I like the shape of the body a lot, all three body morphs in fact. I like much it better than any other Poser figure in its default state. The body is sexy and womanly, I can relate to it. I like that the breasts look as if they have some weight to them. I like that there is some fleshiness on the torso when she bends sideways. The modelling on the abdomen pleases me, she has a nice waist, and the waist is where I want it, not too high or too low. The thighs and hips have a feminine look, she has curves and muscles but she doesn't look as if she spends her life in the gym. The Amazon and Voluptuous morphs look more like the African women I see every day than any other figure around, except perhaps for Bella. So she suits my purpose very well.
The face is a good starting point for making my own custom faces, and I am already working on that. Even in its default unmorphed state it is a face shape I can use if I need a caucasian character.
She isn't the latest in Poser tech, she was made using Poser 6. But why should users of earlier versions of Poser not have a new figure to play with? I'll be using her with EZskin. I'll make my own textures. I'll even share them. So she is not weight-mapped. That is a challenge, not a problem. I make very little use of weightmapped figures anyway.
There is a free version. The paid version, with three full body morphs and a good collection of other morphs, is only $10, for goodness' sake.
On principle, I support individuals who put in the effort to produce something new. For the work of one person, I think this figure is exceptional. BVH produced her in a very short time, and I see no indication that he is going to stop working on her. The Baron is open to feedback.
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jonnybode posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 12:33 AM
I dont see any problem if a model is released without a SSS-based shader, Snarlygribbly´s EZSkin lets us correct an unsupported figure in a couple of minutes.
BVH also have a history of releasing a lot of free clothings to the characters he creates, so for $10 this is a bargain.
I bought it and i like it :-)
Paloth posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 12:50 AM
The figure's irises are not in the center of the eyes when framed by the eyelids: they are closer to the center than the outside. This is what gives her a cross-eyed look. Since this sort of thing is easily corrected, I have to wonder why it was released like this.
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Kalypso posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 1:59 AM Site Admin
She reminds me a lot of Posette especially in the arms, their proportions and bending and this is especially striking in the sitting pose. But then I never disliked Posette and she had great morphability - I continued using her well into the Vicki 2 phase. IIRC so did BVH. But those eyes definitely need a little fix :)
vilters posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 3:17 AM
Once again, or should I say once more, quality is NOT equal to Poly count.
Quality is a lot more then just "HIGH Poly". So glad I can delete all of them at once.
To me? It is a man with a coke botte shape, and balloons. Sorry.
There are better figures with 1/10 the Poly count.
If she would have been around 10K Poly's, I would have started to make corrections.
At 70K , it is not worth the time and energy.
And, PS? Poser version???
Has nothing to do with poly count, body shape or bending possibilities of a figure.
What EVERY poser or DS figure creator should do.
And this is a MANDATORY task if you want to learn something.
Open up the Poser 1 figures.
And make something out of those.
You WILL learn a LOT more then you would ever think possible. And NO this is NOT a joke.
DO it before you comment. But, I am pretty sure NO BODY will.
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bagoas posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 3:43 AM
Downloaded her but not tried her yet. The flow of new figures these days is too thick for me to handle. Previous BVH figures worked quite well.
Good to see that thereis also something new also for those who are still on older Poser versions.
NanetteTredoux posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 5:12 AM
I already have two low-poly figures from BVH and they work well - Angela and Joshua.
Angela has 13992.
Joshua 13642.
That is about as low as I will go.
Cynthia has 42002 polys. That is not a lot these days.
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randym77 posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 5:34 AM
Quote - I dont see any problem if a model is released without a SSS-based shader, Snarlygribbly´s EZSkin lets us correct an unsupported figure in a couple of minutes.
According to the posts earlier in this thread...this figure has problems that EZSkin won't fix. Not just the default texture, but the modeling/mapping of the eyes.
I suppose this could be fixed by the community. I remember in the early days, people made eye props to make eyes look more realistic. You substituted them for the figure's default eyes.
But that seems a lot to expect, given the high hurdle any non-DAZ figure is facing. Especially with Genesis in Poser now.
bagoas posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 6:34 AM
The figures BVH figures in their original low-res textures (no SSS) and flat-lined to see the mesh.
Left to right is Athena2 (no longer available), new Cynthia and low-poly Angela; the latter both in original mesh and after a 1-time subdivision using Snarly's subdivider.
Poses are uncorrected library poses (loaded as universal pose), origial V4 pose for Athena and V2 poses for Cynthia and Angela.
For Athena and Angela breast morphs applied to bring the boys anywhere near realistic proportions. October's salary slip has not arrived yet, so Cynthia has to carry her weights, but hopefuly I can do something before she gets a sore back.
I think the girls are worthy additions to the Runtime.
bagoas posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 6:40 AM
Here is first:
bagoas posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 6:41 AM
smallspace posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 12:54 PM
BVH is working on an update. It should be out soon...
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mylemonblue posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 3:46 PM
Nice to see BVH got another girl. I'm watching for the update too. Woooot!
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randym77 posted Sat, 20 October 2012 at 4:48 PM
Quote - BVH is working on an update. It should be out soon...
Great news. Let us know when it's available!
bobbesch posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 6:20 AM
Quote - > Quote - BVH is working on an update. It should be out soon...
Great news. Let us know when it's available!
Just received the update, will give it a try.
paganeagle2001 posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 6:36 AM
The update is only for the pay for version, the free base version is still going to be the v1.0 mesh.
All the best.
LROG
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NanetteTredoux posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 8:10 AM
Here is Cynthia (original version) with the face morph and texture I am working on. This is an early work in progress render - there is still a lot to do.
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bobbesch posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 12:49 PM
Coming along nicely. The update didn't fix the issue with the cornea, though. But bagginsbill, as always, came to the rescue. On his site there is a very nice eye-prop which I use for Cynthia. I removed the baked-in highlights of the lip texture with a little photoshopping. EZskin2 and hair for finish. Not to shabby.
NanetteTredoux posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 1:27 PM
She looks like Liz Hurley. Very nice.
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bagoas posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 2:32 PM
Here a stretch type half length pant.
Will submit the dynamic version in the freebie section.
bobbesch posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 2:57 PM
Thank you!
Just another try: Changed the bridge of the nose and the cheeks with posers morph-brush.
bobbesch posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 3:02 PM
Quote - Working on some clothing for her
Here a stretch type half length pant.
Will submit the dynamic version in the freebie section.
Nice pants! They will look good combined with shades and a fifties hat.
mylemonblue posted Sun, 21 October 2012 at 4:11 PM
Nice pants and great face morphs!
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NanetteTredoux posted Mon, 22 October 2012 at 2:03 AM
Heads up: Jules uploaded a great set of full body morphs for the free version of Cynthia to freestuff.
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edgeverse posted Mon, 22 October 2012 at 10:49 AM
Need some for her face. I have the base version and she has no morphs in her head. SHe is emotionless for now.
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jonnybode posted Mon, 22 October 2012 at 11:53 AM
"Need some for her face"
If you like the model why not support the artist (BVH) and buy the full version?
Its a bargain for $9.99...
Jules freebie is an excellent addition to the full figures morphs.
edgeverse posted Mon, 22 October 2012 at 12:42 PM
I may do so wednesday. I have purchased Angela and Eternia.
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NanetteTredoux posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 1:24 AM
Blender's sculpt mode is wonderful for making face morphs, and Blender is free.
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vampchild posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 9:40 AM
I bought Cynthia 1.2 a few days ago and very
happy with what I got. She's different from a
lot of other characters and that makes her great.
BVH did good with this character. The special morphs
work great. Looking forward to more characters from
BVH.
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bagoas posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 10:46 AM
Quote - Blender's sculpt mode is wonderful for making face morphs, and Blender is free.
Does it work better than the Poser morph brush? I have tried Blender a few times but I ever find the learning curve simply is too steep for me. I am just dazzled by the possibilities.
In any case $9.99 for morphs and full textures (let's not forget those are included also) is something nobody can really beat.
smallspace posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 12:37 PM
Like a said before, between the talent here and BVH's continuing work there's a great possibility for significant development on Cynthia. Any issues that come to light, I expect will be ironed out one by one and made available to the community. Clothing will be made, new morphs and textures will become available.
Of course, there is one question on everyone's mind:
"What about her feet?"
(heh)
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NanetteTredoux posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 1:12 PM
Bagoas: Yes, Blender's sculpt mode is much more controllable than Poser's morph brush - there are several different morph brushes and if your mesh is dense enough you can also use a texture as a brush. Combined with the proportional editing in Blender, making morphs is pure pleasure. The new Blender (since version 2.5) is much easier to learn than the earlier versions. Many good tutorials around too. Check out vscorpianc's channel on Youtube.
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paganeagle2001 posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 1:16 PM
Jusy got Cynthia, just to stop me getting confused, does the 1.2 version still have a png that says Cynthia 1.0 on it?
I thought it may have changed to 1.2.
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paganeagle2001 posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 4:52 PM
All the best.
LROG
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smallspace posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 4:58 PM
Yeah, still uses the same png.
Quote - Jusy got Cynthia, just to stop me getting confused, does the 1.2 version still have a png that says Cynthia 1.0 on it?
I thought it may have changed to 1.2.
All the best.
LROG
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paganeagle2001 posted Tue, 23 October 2012 at 5:03 PM
Thanks, I thought it might be that, but just needed a confirm!!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
NanetteTredoux posted Wed, 24 October 2012 at 12:41 AM
Paganeagle, that dress looks lovely. The way it drapes over her curves - very nice.
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RoseHawk posted Thu, 25 October 2012 at 7:31 AM
THe FREE basic bikini for Cynthia mentioned by the Baron in his email is now up on Cynthia's page.
Improvement means change. Change need not mean improvement.
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paganeagle2001 posted Thu, 25 October 2012 at 8:55 AM
Link to free bikini:-
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Thu, 25 October 2012 at 9:15 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Thu, 25 October 2012 at 9:16 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
bagoas posted Sun, 28 October 2012 at 11:22 AM
For those followign this figure: the Baron now also offers a merchant resource containing the UV maps, an (under conditions) re-distributable dev rig and a quicksuit:
paganeagle2001 posted Sun, 28 October 2012 at 3:51 PM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Sun, 28 October 2012 at 3:52 PM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Sun, 28 October 2012 at 3:53 PM
I would like to also say a thank you for adding a DEV rig, it makes content makers lives a little easier.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
joequick posted Sun, 28 October 2012 at 4:37 PM
With that physique, she seems like she'd make for the perfect superheroine, a great Wonderwoman or Powergirl right out of the box. I'm really hoping we'll see BVH return to costume creation and flesh out his new girls wardrobe. For those who weren't around during the zenith of daz's 3rd generation, BVH's costume catelogue back then was second to none.
Yuroven posted Mon, 29 October 2012 at 6:13 PM
Tried to download, but get a 503, and a 500 (self, and the horse rode in on) for the free version. Is there a workaround?
smallspace posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 1:11 AM
As I recall, I had those errors on BVH's site myself a bit ago. Emailed him about it and found out it had to do with some sort of hacker or abusive person that he had to take steps to ban. Unfortunately, the software BVH used filters out by IP address or provider or some such nonsence. In any case, I was told that from time to time, whole groups of people that have something in common with that one person get blocked.
All I can say is sometimes the site works for me, some times it doesn't. If I were you, I'd try the site again. If it doesn't work, email BVH.
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Zev0 posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 3:40 AM
I love the figure body shape, specially the stomach.
paganeagle2001 posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 11:28 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 11:40 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Tue, 30 October 2012 at 11:51 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Wed, 31 October 2012 at 9:37 AM
Have fun folks!!!!! Part of My FGPlus2 Halloween Freebies!!!!
Cynthia Multi Pants!!!!!
http://www.sharecg.com/v/65521/view/11/Poser/Cynthia-Multi-Pants
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
edgeverse posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 12:49 PM
I just got the full version of her and liking her. I cant wait for moree clothing for her to come out. I totally agree with joequick that she does in fact have that heroine type body.
Nanette and Pagaeagle, keep the cool stuff coming. I downloaded the clothing set from nanette and the pants from pagaeagle. they work great.
3D Digital Comics & Art/My homepage
http://www.edgeversemedia.com
paganeagle2001 posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 2:55 PM
That's the sign of a person that knows how to keep customers happy.
Here are the zones.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 2:56 PM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Kendra posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 4:55 PM
Don't forget the nudity flags on those thongs, guys. :)
...... Kendra
paganeagle2001 posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 5:07 PM
I don't know about others, but my images didn't require a nudity tag. All areas are covered as said in the TOS, no manipulation of body parts etc.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Kendra posted Thu, 01 November 2012 at 10:45 PM
The thong did. The others are ok. - "No exposed buttocks – more exposure than a standard bikini bottom would constitute nudity."
...... Kendra
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 3:53 AM
I used the ruling from this page:-
http://www.renderosity.com/tos.php
There is a notice about thumbnails:-
Thumbnails for all areas of the site may not display nude female breasts, male or female genitals or buttocks, or graphically violent images.
But.....
Under no circumstances can you say that my image is a thumbnail. Lol.
If so, it's a HUGE thumbnail.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 8:34 AM
The info about buttocks you refer to is for those selling content at Rendo.
I posted a link to BVH's site for the free bikini.
I didn't create the bikini, or have any intention to sell something.
I abided by the rules for posting an image in the forums.
Perhaps next time you may want to note where the link went to.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
LaurieA posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:04 AM
I would think the thumbnail rules apply if there IS no thumbnail on an image posted in an open forum. I do think maybe the staff needs to go over the TOS again and change some of the jargon so that what they want is more clear. It's changed a lot since I was a coord here, and what Kendra said was the rules when I was. However, I would think that since we have a nudity tag and this is an open forum (and one that some visit while they are at work...tho I won't comment on that....) that you could use it to be on the side of caution.
My thoughts, such as they are and mean nothing really. LOL ;).
Laurie
Janl posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:28 AM
I thought nudity was okay in the forum. I'm sure I've seen it before. Now I'm confused. :(
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:29 AM
Agree Laurie, there is no way that you could say an image of that size is a thumbnail. So, looking at the forum postings TOS there was no need for a nudity tag, otherwise I would have put it on.
The comment:-
No exposed buttocks – more exposure than a standard bikini bottom would constitute nudity.
Applies to content makers in the store and I assume to freebies in the free area, but this is neither ofthose areas.
I showed the bikini both front and back to show others what the bikini looked like, nothing else.
If and when the forum TOS changes to having to add a nudity tag for buttocks then I will add a tag, until then, as it stands I don't need to do so.
If they want to quickly add an update to the forum TOS then I have no problems at all.
I have mentioned buttocks, so I have added a nudity tag on this post!!! Lol.
All the best.
LROG*
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:55 AM
Added nudity tag.... Just in case.....
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Janl posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:55 AM
I've just noticed the terms for the free version of Cynthia. One says:
"You may NOT develop any 3rd party content (clothing, morphs, textures, characters) for the Base version of Cynthia 1.0. Please use the retail version."
**
**Will content created for the paid version work with the free version too?
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:58 AM
Yes it will, try my Mutli Pants!!!
http://www.sharecg.com/v/65521/gallery/11/Poser/Cynthia-Multi-Pants
The DEV rig works for both base 1.0 Cynthia and for Paid for Cynthia 1.2.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:59 AM
Again, nudity flag on!!!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Janl posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 10:00 AM
Quote - Yes it will, try my Mutli Pants!!!
http://www.sharecg.com/v/65521/gallery/11/Poser/Cynthia-Multi-Pants
The DEV rig works for both base 1.0 Cynthia and for Paid for Cynthia 1.2.
All the best.
LROG
Thanks. I'll try your pants. :)
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:32 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
edgeverse posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:40 AM
Looking good so far.
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http://www.edgeversemedia.com
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:42 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:42 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:53 AM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Kendra posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:55 AM
Here's the link: http://www.renderosity.com/news.php?viewStory=13472
It's from the thumbnail and nudity guidelines and has nothing to do with the marketplace. Nudity is ok in the forum, it just needs tagging is all. Anytime there is a character thread there's bound to be nude images posted. I was just posting a generic 'heads up' for future images after adding the nudity tag to the one with the thong.
...... Kendra
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 12:06 PM
Sorry to say this but that is for thumbnails and is from 2007, the one I linked to was Last updated: Friday, July 8, 2011
I really do think someone needs to get together and update the TOS to a new version.
The image (Not a thumbnail) is goverened by the forum TOS and my thong pic was not against the forum TOS.
You can check the current forum TOS at:-
http://www.renderosity.com/tos.php
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 12:27 PM
Straight from the thumbnail page:-
If you fail to upload a thumb, our system automatically generates a thumb for you, which is a miniature of your entire image. If your image contains nudity or violence, you must not use this feature. You must upload your own thumbnail which excludes the nudity/violence and is within the thumbnail size limits (minimum 100 x 100, maximum 200 x 200, max file size 15kb.
Now check my image:-
402 x 614
Image size 136kb
So, at least now it can be shown that my image is not a thumbnail and that the current TOS needs to be updated.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
vilters posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 2:22 PM
Everbody has his/her own workflow.
My personal workflow is : Remove all material zones, as deep as required.
My normal figures have 2:
My SSS figures have 3:
My detailed figures have 5 material zones: YES, 5 :-) WHAW !
Mutiple maps figures?
Sorry, not for me.
I can put more on a single 8196x8196 texture map then you can put on multiple 4000x4000 maps.
Oh, no V's or M's here in the house. (or any other mutiple map figure for that matter.)
No specular, no bump maps.
Only one single diffuse texture map and let Poser build all the rest internally in the math room.
Materail room control is sooooooooo easy.
It should be prohibited to be this easy. :-)
Happy Posering
Tony
Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7,
P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game
Dev
"Do not drive
faster then your angel can fly"!
edgeverse posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 2:34 PM
I love the material room. So simple.
3D Digital Comics & Art/My homepage
http://www.edgeversemedia.com
vilters posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 3:29 PM
Click to enlarge, but I had to compress to get below 200K here. :-(
Displacement is driven by diffuse texture and a Math_Function + turbulence.
Dark is less displacement, lighter is more displacement.
Blinn is driven by diffuse texture with ANOTHER Math_Function + turbulence
Lighter is more Blinn.
See that darker area's like brows get MORE displacement, and LESS Specular-Blinn.
As it should be. :-)
All driven by the same diffuse texture.
Poser 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7,
P8 and PPro2010, P9 and PP2012, P10 and PP2014 Game
Dev
"Do not drive
faster then your angel can fly"!
Kendra posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 7:58 PM
I'm not arguing the nudity flag in this thread any longer, the flag was needed, is valid, and it stays. Nude images, regardless if it is considered a thumb or not, need to be flagged and the thong is clearly spelled out in what is considered nude. If you would like to discuss this via site mail, feel free to contact me.
...... Kendra
smallspace posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 8:41 PM
There's a small difference in the geometry between the free and pay versions, so morphs won't transfer and mapping is slightly problematic. In any case, I know that BVH could really use the money right now, so please go buy the full version!
I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!
HeyDork posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 8:44 PM
Not trying to be a problem child but do you people seriously think this figure is good and worthy??? The boobs look worse than bolt-ons, the face is fugly, and...well, let's take steps forward not backwards, free or not.
bobbesch posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 3:19 AM
Quote - Not trying to be a problem child but do you people seriously think this figure is good and worthy??? The boobs look worse than bolt-ons, the face is fugly, and...well, let's take steps forward not backwards, free or not.
De gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum.
paganeagle2001 posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 1:05 PM
I just need to twaek a few things before I start on doing MATS.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
paganeagle2001 posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 1:06 PM
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
bagoas posted Sun, 04 November 2012 at 9:12 AM
Note only now I forgot to seam a part of the collar, LOL! Been struggling with that bit to get it right, Now I understand why.
Anyway, just to let you know it is in the making.
bobbesch posted Sun, 04 November 2012 at 10:11 AM
Looks good. Really nice details, i like the tuck.
paganeagle2001 posted Sun, 04 November 2012 at 10:55 AM
This is just a quick example in action with the Multi Pants I made.
The top fits over the pants and even has a none belly button option! Lol.!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
edgeverse posted Sun, 04 November 2012 at 3:11 PM
Quote - Due to the number of zones I put into the top, it will take me a while to get all the different styles set up! Lol.
This is just a quick example in action with the Multi Pants I made.
The top fits over the pants and even has a none belly button option! Lol.!
All the best.
LROG
This looks amazing.
3D Digital Comics & Art/My homepage
http://www.edgeversemedia.com
smallspace posted Thu, 08 November 2012 at 2:38 AM
BVH has just put out a small update for the owners of Cynthia 1.2. It's a free set of morphs to fix a couple of problems with her eyes and mouth. Go get it! http://bvh3d.com/free045.php
I'd rather stay in my lane than lay in my stain!
edgeverse posted Thu, 08 November 2012 at 8:19 AM
Thanks for the heads up, smallspace.
3D Digital Comics & Art/My homepage
http://www.edgeversemedia.com
AetherDream posted Thu, 08 November 2012 at 7:12 PM
I think she's looking lianother peer promising addition ti my origina,l figure collection.
"People who attempt define what art is or is not, are not artists"---Luminescence
edgeverse posted Mon, 12 November 2012 at 9:58 AM
Freebie Alert:
http://www.sharecg.com/v/65720/browse/11/Poser/Gloves-for-Cynthia-1.2
Enjoy.
3D Digital Comics & Art/My homepage
http://www.edgeversemedia.com
cedarwolf posted Sat, 08 December 2012 at 12:43 PM
Still getting a 404 error on the bhv3d.com website. Is there an alternative download for Cynthia?
shvrdavid posted Sat, 08 December 2012 at 9:13 PM
Quote - Sorry, not for me.
I can put more on a single 8196x8196 texture map then you can put on multiple 4000x4000 maps.
No, you can't. There is no way you can get anywhere near the resolution of a multi mapped character that is UVed for print resolution. And we wont even get into what happens to it if there is any texture filtering going on at all, when you click render with one huge map rendered at a low resolution. By print resolution I am talking about 24"x36"x300dpi and up. One 8k map on a 4 to 10k figure is going to look like crap at those resolutions and higher. The math room can't make decent bump, spec, or any other type of map out of the diffuse one at those resolutions either.
Quote - There are better figures with 1/10 the Poly count.
Please, by all means clutter up the thread with far superior 4k characters you plan on giving away to the community.
Quote - If she would have been around 10K Poly's, I would have started to make corrections.
At 70K , it is not worth the time and energy.
What would you do with it after you fixed it, continue to bash it and show everyone your version? Would you give what you did to the community? Somehow I doubt that. Doing so would put you on the other side of the conversation. For as much bashing as you do on everything people give away, I don't see you giving much to the community.
If you don't like what someone took the time to create and give to the community, that's fine. But at least have some manners and realize that the Poser world does not revolve around your installation of Poser. Or the few main characters that you use in Poser.
Quote - And, PS? Poser version???
Has nothing to do with poly count, body shape or bending possibilities of a figure.
Lol, yes it does. But since all you apparently do is low poly, you must not have discovered that yet. A weight mapped high poly character (100-300k) will bend far better that anything you can do to a low poly one. If you think otherwise, you are kidding yourself. Changing the body shape to far with standard joint zones is also a problem that can be handled far better with weight mapped joints. Your not doing that in P8 and down.
I will stop before I get hit by the ban hammer...
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