ok I just slipped universes right or this is a huge joke...?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20146942

$4.05 Billion is no joke...  :blink:

What I read years ago, before the making of the phantom menace, in an interview with George Lukas that he was planning to make nine films, three trilogies in total. IIRC, the last trilogie would be a serie around the adventures of Han Solo. But I wonder that will still be the planning, I would really be surprised if Harrison Ford would play him again. Perhaps a nice role for Johny Depp : Pirates of the Galaxy.

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Well, there goes the franchise....

LOL monkeycloud ;).

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He he...

I'm actually not without hope that there could be some good from it.

If whoever Disney decide to take on to handle the project, creatively, is someone who can make something more than just a visual extravaganza... and get back to the characters and human chemistry that the original trilogy had...

...well, the Han Solo storyline is interesting. Harrison Ford is a big part of making Han Solo work as a character, I feel. But... I've no doubt there are plenty of very talented young actors, relatively undiscovered, like Ford was when he landed the Solo role, who could make the character of young Solo their own.

Depp is too big for the part, in my opinion... and too old now. Although I'm sure he could probably pull it off if he did take the role... I guess.

River Phoenix was looking like making a good younger Indiana Jones I thought... but again, he'd be too old for the part now, if he hadn't sadly died so young himself.

It definitely needs some new blood. But not some Mickey Mouse Club graduate... let's get that straight right off the bat

Oh hang on... Ryan Gosling... er. There are exceptions to every rule perhaps?

 

I know, it's a long shot... but never tell me the odds :sneaky:

"But not some Mickey Mouse Club graduate …"

Oh, come on, Justin and Brit Brit would be perfect. Maybe Snooki as the Ewok queen - all kinds of possibilities here. 

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just about corporations buying up all the IP they can, to control everything

next up, another major politician suddenly wishes to make copyright eternal, and soon you will own, nothing. :/

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However, I'm worried they'll make the movies too family/kids oriented a la episode 1.

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This is good news. It means there will be another Star Wars movie. Lucas wasn't willing to take on the effort and the risk at this point.

If it's a bomb, so what? The last trilogy wasn't exactly a jewel.

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Disney could have saved a lot of money by hiring some creative people and creating their own franchise, if there are any creative people at disney.... aside from the financial engineers.

Another telling pic... really, no one saw this coming? LOL

Could be worse, can you imagine if poser people where allowed to remake Star Wars :) Pink ponies instead of Tauntauns, Alan Alada in Leia's even skimpier bikini...and...

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Disney also owns Pixar now. Maybe they will let them make the next Star Wars films! ^ ^

actually, Pixar control Disneys movies now.. that was the deal. the Head of Pixar is the head of Disney's movie dept.. so yup... Pixar will control Star Wars now.... and Indiana Jones..

Pixar is mostly all CGI cartons.
ILM is mostly all realistic CGI.

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Lucas is 68.  He waited too long between the trilogies for questionable results to be able to finish it himself. 

 

Quote - Disney could have saved a lot of money by hiring some creative people and creating their own franchise, if there are any creative people at disney.... aside from the financial engineers.

Let's see, they get the profits of all future installments.  All the merchandizing.  The video game division.  They get the profits from ILM. 

And of course you've got Starwarsland which probably will happen. You know at least ten million people will pony up the 100-120 it takes to get in there and a lot will keep going back.

 

Here's the thing about new IPs, they are expensive and there's no guarantee it'll be a hit with fans.  Why else do you see John Carter and Battleship being made?  It's because people with that kind of money hate to risk it on new ideas.

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I've watched a lot of interviews with Lucas.  Originally, Lucas said he was going to make a total of nine Star Wars movies--the "first" triology about Annakin Skywalker and his descent into evil and end of the Republic, the second which was actually the first triology made, and a third about the post Empire new Republic.  I think, given the age of the original actors, they'd do best to do a Star Wars, the Next Generation--perhaps about Leia's and Han's Solo's children and possibly Luke as a Jedi Master Guru.

Truth be told I loathe the "first" trilogy--Anakin was never a very sympathetic character even before he became corrupted.  I think if someone besides Lucas could write the next trilogy it could be good, but it seems to me that he was struggling to come up with material during the prequel.  Almost everything in it was begged, borrowed or stolen from Edgar Rice Burroughs Mars series to Ben Hurr.  I have a pretty good suspension of disbelief when it comes to such things, but even I couldn't buy Luke and Leia's mother dieing of a broken heart after childbirth. . .

Quote - Pixar is mostly all CGI cartons.
ILM is mostly all realistic CGI.

Yes, but perhaps they will mix the two to get the main characters back from episodes 4, 5, and 6 for the new Star War 7 film. The original actors who played Luke, Han and Leia are too old to play those parts?!

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Too old for the parts if you want them to look like they did when they finished the last movie they did.  Have you seen Harrison Ford lately--no miracle of plastic surgery could take that many years off him.  He was no spring chicken when he made the original film.  They certainly are not too old to play older versions of the characters--that is if they agreed to do so--I think that Carrie Fisher has a love/hate relationship to the Princess Leia role and I think she would rather leave all that behind her and concentrate on her shock treatments and writing.

Welly, you could always cast new actors for the roles or you could pick up 100 years later.

The problem is how the expanded universe will play into this.

 

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Anakin Solo dies in an extra-galatic alien invasion and Jacen turns to the dark side, killing Luke's wife in the process.  Do you go that route or say screw it and invalidate everything that happens?

 

SPOLIERS 

 

 

 

 

 

Frankly I'd prefer the reboot, but you might see a lot of angry fans because of it.

 

 

I'd also like to see other "universes" and not just focusing on the events in the one we've already seen.

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I think I read somewhere that the storyline of Star Wars 7 involves Han inventing a time machine and going back in time to kill Jar-Jar-Binks! :p

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Quote - I think I read somewhere that the storyline of Star Wars 7 involves Han inventing a time machine and going back in time to kill Jar-Jar-Binks! :p

 

One can only but hope.

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I heard that recently Disney has been firing a lot of their artists. Now this news comes out. I wonder if the two are related somehow?

 

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star wars episode 1 1999

star wars episode 2 2002

star wars episode 3 2005

star wars episode 4 1977

star wars episode 5 1980

star wars episode 6 1983

star wars episode 7 2015

I doubt star wars episode 7 2015 will be what we exspect.

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Star Wars Episode 7: "Pigs in Space".

I hope:

 

We get to go back to Tatooine again

There's another Death Star

There's a good, marketable plush toy creature for children featured prominently

More offensive stereotypical accents/creatures

More Belching and farting scenes, and people stepping on crap

20 minute scenes talking about Midi-Chorlians

Wooden actors delivering more embarassing dialogue

No wars whatsoever, only skirmishes

Villians with silly names.

Ah, those Midi-Chorlians...

I presume that's folk who live between the centre and the suburbs of the Lancashire town of Chorley??

You've got to watch you're back in Chorley, apparently... especially if carrying anything resembling a light sabre... or anything that could perhaps be mistaken for a samurai sword...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/oct/17/police-taser-blind-man-stick

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A person with a weapon who cannot discern the difference between a samurai sword and a walking stick is a very dangerous person.

 

There is a game from 2003 called "Knights of the Old Republic"- great story-and characters. I remember thinking that it was better than  Star Wars Episode I, II, and III.

It had what Episode IV, V, and VI had-a good story-and characters. There has long been fan interest in remaking-continuing the story.

There was a sequel game-with different characters (not as good). Instead Lucas gave us an MMO, and the story of Darth Vader's secret apprentice (Sam Witwer) which I thought was promising-even though the sequel was not very satisfying.). But again- good characters-and story.

It is my hope that Disney continues the original story of Knights of the Old Republic-and the tale of DV's secret apprentice

I've had the feeling for years-that Lucas was tired of Star Wars- hence the lack of Episode VII. So I am HOPING people who love the SW universe take over and bring us more games-and movies.

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ERM..... wrong thread?

Eric, I blame EA for the travesty that SW:TOR was.  I'm guessing they are the big reason bioware's founders exited the industry.

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Quote - > Quote - A person with a weapon who cannot discern the difference between a samurai sword and a walking stick is a very dangerous person.

 

ERM..... wrong thread?

Responding to previous post. Sorry for drifting further off topic.

ok but lets drop that subject before this thread gets locked. you just know it'll drift into areas that will cause huge fights.

I heard one of the reasons it took so long 83 to 99 to make star wars episode 1 1999.
George's divorce cost a lot of money.
So for a long time he didn't have the $$$ to make star wars episode 1 1999.

Tangled coast 260 million to make.I'll never get why it cost so much to make.
I would think Disney has the $$$ to do just about anything they want.

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Quote - ERM..... wrong thread?

Er, yeah... apologies. Ahem. That was ridiculously OT even by my usual standards I guess. 

Back on topic, I note that Lucas is being retained by Disney as a creative consultant.

That could mean anything of course. But it could well mean he still ends up having substantial input into the new episodes, 7 and on, being touted?

Let's not forgot from the original trilogy George Lucas was the writer and director on only the very first Star Wars film. Other people both helped write the screenplay and directed the other two films, Empire and Jedi. Which I was surprised to find out.

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> Quote - Let's not forgot from the original trilogy George Lucas was the writer and director on only the very first Star Wars film. Other people both helped write the screenplay and directed the other two films, Empire and Jedi. Which I was surprised to find out.

 

That's true.  One of the strongest influences on the Star Wars trilogy was Gary Kurtz, one of the co-producers on the first two films.  He was upset about Lucas's claims that audiences no longer cared about character and story.  He parted ways with Lucas right before Jedi.  It's probably one of the reasons why Ewoks showed up in the third film.

Kurtz wanted to end the Jedi with a much darker tone.  He also pushed for the more mystical/spiritual elements in Star Wars, unlike Lucas who increasingly leaned toward the dark side of merchandising.

 

Quote - I heard one of the reasons it took so long 83 to 99 to make star wars episode 1 1999.
George's divorce cost a lot of money.
So for a long time he didn't have the $$$ to make star wars episode 1 1999.

I dunno about that, if he just mentioned star wars and prequel, he'd probably get the investors he needed.

His public excuse is that he wanted film technology to advance more so he could tell the story he wanted.  I kind of believe that, he as did become obsessed with the technoligical aspect.  One of the reasons why he didn't direct empire was so he could stay behind and focus on the effects stuff.

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Quote - I heard one of the reasons it took so long 83 to 99 to make star wars episode 1 1999.
George's divorce cost a lot of money.
So for a long time he didn't have the $$$ to make star wars episode 1 1999.

Tangled coast 260 million to make.I'll never get why it cost so much to make.
I would think Disney has the $$$ to do just about anything they want.

Where did you see mentioned the divorce costing so much money not being able to make the prequels. As far as I know lucas could get any amount he wanted to make it

And what has Tangled to do with Lucas?

George Lucas is the second largest shareholder in Disney, so I will be surprised if he doesn't have anything to say about how the next Star Wars moves are made - especially if he is Creative Consultant.

Disney owns many movie production companies amongs others Marvel which released Avengers. I haven't seen any negative influence from Disney on that movie. So it might not be a bad move at all

 

ya I herd that they did not have the means to make 1,2,3 back in the day.
1998 Max & Lightwave was at version 2,3 something like that.
1 was made in 1999.so the CGI thing makes since.

I just said i herd ,it's all hear say.like the saying goes believe nothing you hear 1/2 way you see.
Think George got divorced in 83 you could google it.

But if Marcia Lucas got the gold mine & George got the shaft... in 1983.
How could he afford to make a movie.
just thinking out loud.

I guess my point was.
If they have 260 million to throw at tangled
then they have plenty of $$$ to throw at Starwars 7.

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EP7 doesn't need 250 million, it needs a plot and better characters.

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Plot is always good vs evil.people ,gov.

George made a movie before starwars 1971 "THX 1138" during the vietnam war.
something like V for Vendetta & 1984.
 

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Disney will get big Hollywood stars.
They fall in love while fighting the bad guys but can't be together for what ever reasons.

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"I hope:
We get to go back to Tatooine again
There's another Death Star"

NO..NO & ......NO!!!!!!!

Sick of Anakin/Vader!!
Sick of  Obiwan,yoda.!!
sick of R2D2 C3PO.!!!

Dont we know ENOUGH of how their stories end??

I would like to see some real "prequels"as in the character rich universe of "knights of the old Republic" Era.

The origins of the the Sith/Jedi War.
the founders jedi /sith order.
instead of simply regurgitating the same stale old characters and "introduce them to a new generation" how about something new and fresh for All of us.

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If it's a bomb, so what? The last trilogy wasn't exactly a jewel.

My thought exactly.  The last two movies had their moments... well "emo" moments anyways.  It can only go up from here, right?

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it's a good fit.  after episode 4 the show was tailored way way down to the little kiddies anyway.  sure the "luke i'm your father" thing was cool but the rebel army was cute teddy bears.  appearance for kids, some very lite content for very slightly older kids.  if you ask me there's not much difference between star wars and a typical disney show except that there's a lot more scope in star wars.

i read that lucas said that he's passing the story on to a new generation, and that's a fantastic thing for the franchise too.  after all, when a band is 20 years old, they just play retirement gigs for the next several decades.  they fall out of current style, and will certainly not forge into new territory.  star wars will become further immortalized with the passing of the torch, and more of a "folk tale" than a lucas arts tale.

 

thx 1138 was fantastic.  i actually am lucky enough to own a copy i found used at a blockbuster of all places.  really fantastic themes.

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Watch for Mikey and Goofy in the new cantina scenes....

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Alas, I never really understood the psycho-cultural gravitational pull of 'Wars any more than the zen of Macintosh, but I'm happy for its fans to have this new opportunity. Now if someone would just remake Flesh Gordon.

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Meh, they will prolly never make a better Star Wars film than the first one and Jedi (imo). I just wish someone would invent a real Lightsaber already.

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The Force is strong with you Wolf359, very strong! I am hoping the same-although having read the books-there are some good stories involving the descendants of Luke, etc.

I recently started playing Knights of the Old Republic again (emulated on my Xbox360). Crude graphics-but the play and story is still good. There are some issues with speech breaking up when the other background sounds/music get complex.

I imagine Disney would find the familiar "safer" and am afraid they will just go with it.

KIDDING now- how about the tale of Jar Jar's Fall to the Darkside? It starts when Jar Jar surrenders and offers his assistance- Vader has long been intrigued by JarJar's Force abilities-somehow stumbling through battles-and destroying the enemy by seeming coincididence. Vader takes him on as an Apprentice to study the Stupid Side of the Force.. I started a cartoon series on the subect-here is panel one-but stopped due to threats! :-)

 

Quote - "I hope:
We get to go back to Tatooine again
There's another Death Star"

NO..NO & ......NO!!!!!!!

Sick of Anakin/Vader!!
Sick of  Obiwan,yoda.!!
sick of R2D2 C3PO.!!!

Dont we know ENOUGH of how their stories end??

I would like to see some real "prequels"as in the character rich universe of "knights of the old Republic" Era.

The origins of the the Sith/Jedi War.
the founders jedi /sith order.
instead of simply regurgitating the same stale old characters and "introduce them to a new generation" how about something new and fresh for All of us.

Cheers

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Quote - Watch for Mikey and Goofy in the new cantina scenes....

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Quote - Watch for Mikey and Goofy in the new cantina scenes....

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As long as Han shoots them first, I can live with that.

 

 

 

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Dunno about anyone else. but the more I think about this, the more fun you can have :)

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Some more news on this front...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21349152

Along with the core new trilogy of films, we could be seeing a few other side / back stories being spun off then?

Maybe we will get some all new characters and stories, per Wolf359's wish... which I would wholeheartedly concur with.

Who knows. We might just get The All New Adventures of Jar Jar Binks ;)

But I have my fingers crossed though...

Quote - Maybe we will get some all new characters and stories, per Wolf359's wish... which I would wholeheartedly concur with.

Who knows. We might just get The All New Adventures of Jar Jar Binks ;)

But I have my fingers crossed though...

"The first of these, Star Wars: Episode VII, will be scripted by Michael Arndt, the Oscar-winning writer of Toy Story 3 and Little Miss Sunshine"

I can just imagine how that is going to go....

 

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Are they going to remake the original with Johnny Depp filling Han Solo's role?

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I'm not looking forward to "Jedis on Ice" or should it be "Jedii on Ice"? which is on next Xmas in every town near you.

The Reality Television series of "I'm a jedi, get me out of here" has  been franchised already, along with the new game show that offers you the chance to win jedi powers by answering a series of questions.

I hear Ryan Seacrest will be hosting "Who wants to be a Jedi".....

I hear they're also planning So you think you can....... be a Jedi? in 2015. Also, let's not forget Jedi's got Talent starting 2017 :biggrin:

 

New star wars films, I don't mind, but between 2015 and 2021 a lot can still happen.

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Makes me wonder when they will make Star Wars is a Complete Load of Bollocks.

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Still, with Pixar calling the shots there's a fighting chance they may yet make a decent SW movie.  I won't hold me breath, though.  

 

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I just don't think they'll ever recapture the "chemistry" of those first movies ;)

There are going to be stand alone spin offs.  The confirmed one is about Yoda.  Han Solo and Boba Fett movies are rumored.

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I wondered about Boba Fett.

I'd be all for that one, certainly :)

Just so long as Binks isn't in it... and it isn't a kind of version of the Goonies with Boba Fett as a kid, hanging out with Han Solo as a kid...

...like Star Wars does the Muppet Babies. He he...

J.J. Abrams will be the director and producer of Star Wars VII. The camera will shake a lot, but the movie might be good. 

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Definitely would be awesome if Boba-Fett had a feature. Surely a childhood favorite (well all the bounty hunters actually... IG88, Boskk). Yup, I played with Star Wars Figures... now I play with Poser figures ;). As far as Disney running the show, who knows? "I find your lack of faith disturbing".

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*Hmmm, who was that nobody bounty hunter with the bandaged head? Did he even get a figure?

IG88 and Boskk, oh yeah ;)

...and Dengar too... why not...

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tracert 216.81.59.173

LOL :)

DNS can be fun! He he...

Looks scary to me. But I am not a network geek. What does it do?

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I love all this angsting. I heard the exact same things when Disney bought Marvel in 2009. Everything was just going to go to hell with Marvel, I heard. all the beloved characters were doooooooooommmmmmmmed!

Well, you know, except for Iron Man 2. And Thor. And Captain America. And The Avengers. And Iron Man 3. And Captain America: Winter Soldier. And Thor: The Dark World. And Avengers 2. And Guardians of the Galaxy...

One of the biggest problems with Star Wars movies was George Lucas and his writing/directing. There's a reason everyone makes fun of the "love story" in Attack of the Clones. Having Disney take over the franchise means other people have a chance to get in there.

 You make good points. I am looking forward to some good Star Wars movies in the next few years.

Quote - I love all this angsting. I heard the exact same things when Disney bought Marvel in 2009. Everything was just going to go to hell with Marvel, I heard. all the beloved characters were doooooooooommmmmmmmed!

Well, you know, except for Iron Man 2. And Thor. And Captain America. And The Avengers. And Iron Man 3. And Captain America: Winter Soldier. And Thor: The Dark World. And Avengers 2. And Guardians of the Galaxy...

One of the biggest problems with Star Wars movies was George Lucas and his writing/directing. There's a reason everyone makes fun of the "love story" in Attack of the Clones. Having Disney take over the franchise means other people have a chance to get in there.

Quote - I love all this angsting. I heard the exact same things when Disney bought Marvel in 2009. Everything was just going to go to hell with Marvel, I heard. all the beloved characters were doooooooooommmmmmmmed!

Well, you know, except for Iron Man 2. And Thor. And Captain America. And The Avengers. And Iron Man 3. And Captain America: Winter Soldier. And Thor: The Dark World. And Avengers 2. And Guardians of the Galaxy...

One of the biggest problems with Star Wars movies was George Lucas and his writing/directing. There's a reason everyone makes fun of the "love story" in Attack of the Clones. Having Disney take over the franchise means other people have a chance to get in there.

 

Exactly what I was thinking. Most think that Lucas screwed up SW long ago, so do you really think Disney could do worse? I always felt that Lucas took the story too seriously. It was an adventure story, and he began to see it as modern-day Shakespeare. That's why the dialogue was so bad and the acting so wooden at times. Turning lighthearted adventure into moody drama.

@ Keith... Iron Man 2 was awful IMO. They're going to make a Gaurdians of the Galaxy Film?! Maybe the Minions of Menace will make an appearance.

Hmmmm, the Defenders? Anyway.

THX 1138 just says it all don't it.

Star wars just a more detailed version of THX 1138.

George Lucas wanted to free the world,free ya mind.

Just like most SCIFI movies.

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I know this is an older thread, but what the hell. I haven't been around (kind'a moved cross country and all that) so was just browsing through to see whats up and came across this one. 

Mainly just thought I'd make a couple points -

Pixar started out as part of Lucasfilm, way back in the 70s, and Disney has been connected to the star wars video games since at least the mid 90s, so it shouldn't really be a big surprise that they've taken control of the films now too. I'm sure Lucas still has creative control over anything that goes on the big screen. He's just getting Disney to foot the bill for it.

That, and, Lucas had originally stated that his intentions were to make 3 trilogies, spanning 3 generations of the Skywalker family. So whatever is coming in terms of films will most likely deal with Han and Leia's kids, since they are the 3rd generation. Ford, Fisher, and Hamil could still play their same characters, they're the right age if their kids are grown, so it would all work out. And, they were all signed on to do a 4th film after Jedi, it just never happened. They've all stated in recent years that they would enjoy reprising their roles. 

Knights of the Old Republic is a pretty awesome storyline, and reveals a lot of the old lore, but it takes place 3,000 years before the films. Plus, Lucas didn't write it, and it doesn't deal with any of the Skywalkers, so I don't see that happening unless the MMO turns around (don't see that happening either) OR this new film is a HUGE hit with the younger generation of star wars fans. There's over 25,000 years of history in the SW universe, really not possible to cover all of it in any number of films, so I'm thinkin the safest route is to stick with the Skywalker family for films, since that's what everyone knows.

Just hope it doesn't suck. :)

Okay I've revealed enough of my SW geekdom here...

~Shane

The rumor mills are flying. The big rumor right now is that Harrison Ford has signed on to reprise his role as Han Solo. No word on the others.

But....

In an interview with Lucas some time ago, he made mention that if he was to make an episode 7, the Sith would be gone. Darth Vador and Darth Sidious were the last of their kind. He mentioned Dark Jedi, which wore a helmet much like vador in homage, and were the exact opposite of the Jedi.

I wanted to see what that would look like, so I turned Simon into a Dark Jedi.

Sort of.

The costume isn't finished.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Here is a version with different lighting and some post work on the lightsaber...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Harrison Ford is committed to make SW VII.  But he did mention sometime ago that if he ever reprise the role, the character should see a glorious death scene.

Quote - Harrison Ford is committed to make SW VII.  But he did mention sometime ago that if he ever reprise the role, the character should see a glorious death scene.

Yeah, I'd heard that too. But just because he said it should, doesn't mean it will.

I'd heard a story that he wanted to kill the character way back when, which is why Han was put in the carbonite chamber. I bet he didn't think he would be in ROTJ...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Too back they can't go back and film the back story between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Shadows of the Empire. 

Quote - Too back they can't go back and film the back story between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Shadows of the Empire. 

Wasn't that one of the novels that Lucas allowed to be written? I'd heard that he has distanced himself from them, and won't use any of the stories from the very large collection as part of his universe.

I also heard that he wants to move away from the Jedi stories. The Star Wars universe in pretty vast, and he wanted to explore a lot more of it.

At least until he sold it...

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

I have got to fix that robe. From this render, it looks like it's part of the shirt. The colors are too similar and I forgot to constrain the collar so it slid down his arms during the sim.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

Quote - > Quote - Too back they can't go back and film the back story between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Shadows of the Empire. 

Wasn't that one of the novels that Lucas allowed to be written? I'd heard that he has distanced himself from them, and won't use any of the stories from the very large collection as part of his universe.

I also heard that he wants to move away from the Jedi stories. The Star Wars universe in pretty vast, and he wanted to explore a lot more of it.

At least until he sold it...

 

Not sure how accurate that is. Lucasarts controls all story lines to novels, games etc. George Lucas even named Han and Leia's kids when those books were written (back in the 90s). As I understand it now, it's pretty near impossible to get a star wars plot approved from outside sources. The novels that exist today are mostly just outlines created my Lucasarts and fleshed out by various authors. 

Puts on the SW geek hat - Technically the Sith haven't existed for centuries - they were a race of brutes that the Dark Jedi enslaved long ago. Darth = Dark Lord of the Sith. For a while, any dark jedi that did not cary Sith blood was not considered a true Sith lord (by their peers), so technically Palpatine and Anakin were never true Sith, they only followed the Sith religions (Well Palpatine may have been), since the last traces of Sith blood vanished long before Anakin ever came along. But as long as Jedi exist, the potential for the Sith also exists. (Good can't exist without evil, and vise-versa). 

If he wanted a new enemy for a 3rd trilogy there are the Yuuzhon Vong, which is what the Solo kids have been fighting pretty much their entire lives, and IMO that would make both the film and the EU fans happy, in order to tie all of it in together.

 

~Shane

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Quote - I also heard that he wants to move away from the Jedi stories. The Star Wars universe in pretty vast, and he wanted to explore a lot more of it.

*then it wouldn't be star wars. Unless he wanted to make an action film about, say, rogue squadron or one of the other squadrons, but that would only appeal to a very limited audience, film-wise and they'd lose their asses. Dash Rendar would make for a cool storyline - the hero from Shadows - but again, without lightsabers and force users, people won't see it as part of star wars and the film will most likely bomb. I'd say leave stories like that to the novels and video games. 

If they wanted to do a stand-alone film that didn't require trying to make Ford or Fisher look 30 years younger than they are (which with today's tech it really wouldn't be that difficult), then Shadows of the Empire would probably be the best one to go with, but even there you've still got dark jedi to contend with. Cause it aint star wars without sabers and the force.

 

~Shane

THX 1138 is one of the 'shout out's that was put in lots of Lucas films; license plate in 'American Graffitti', a mention by two clones in SW IV, etc. Really, must make a note to get self a life...;)

JJ Abrams does Star Trek films...with all the animosity between SW and ST, the Internet may well collapse...;)

 

 

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Quote - I also heard that he wants to move away from the Jedi stories. The Star Wars universe in pretty vast, and he wanted to explore a lot more of it.

*then it wouldn't be star wars. Unless he wanted to make an action film about, say, rogue squadron or one of the other squadrons, but that would only appeal to a very limited audience, film-wise and they'd lose their asses. Dash Rendar would make for a cool storyline - the hero from Shadows - but again, without lightsabers and force users, people won't see it as part of star wars and the film will most likely bomb. I'd say leave stories like that to the novels and video games. 

If they wanted to do a stand-alone film that didn't require trying to make Ford or Fisher look 30 years younger than they are (which with today's tech it really wouldn't be that difficult), then Shadows of the Empire would probably be the best one to go with, but even there you've still got dark jedi to contend with. Cause it aint star wars without sabers and the force.

 

~Shane

Most of the talk that I am referring to was years ago. I know that all the novels that are put out are approved by Lucas. And you are right, it would be impossible to try to cash in on that. Those books have been around long enough that most avid followers almost know more about Star Wars then Lucas himself (kidding)...

And I am with you. Star Wars to me is the Jedi. I even wrote a story awhile back that had a very young Yoda, but I never finished it because I don't know enough about Star Wars to do it justice.

If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.

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Oh oh... I sense a bigger conspiratorial force may be at work here. Could be those Daleks again...

The one thing that confuses me.about a lot of different stories.
Is a lot of stories will have some unbelievable ,no way does that make any since story line in them.

Jedi are suppose to be the good guys ,they free Anakin but tell Anakin
to heck with your Mom ,well leave her enslaved ?

Adikin loves Padmé Amidala ,so Adikin kills Padmé ?

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