well..i can render stuff without hair, like V4 ..portrait work..in maybe 10-15 minutes using IDL ...

put the hair on...just the IDL setup has been an hour and its about 3/4 complete...then the actual render has to take place...it hurts...and now i want to see the end result, but i really need to go to bed....

all the hair i use just slams my system to the ground.... its not super duper like some of you guys..but its AMD quad of some sort at 3.2ghz,  with 8gig ram

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