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Subject: SR 3.1 and weight map handling?


Cage ( ) posted Fri, 14 December 2012 at 5:06 PM · edited Mon, 05 August 2024 at 4:23 AM

Can anyone tell me which, if any, weight-mapping bugs from SR 1 and earlier have been fixed now?  I'd like to start tinkering with some maps, but I don't know what's fully working.  Have they fixed the symmetry bugs?  Do scale maps handle properly now, and will they no longer be dropped (seemingly at random) from the figure?  The readme for SR 3 seems rather vague about what's been dealt with.

Anyone?

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shvrdavid ( ) posted Sun, 16 December 2012 at 4:09 PM

Most of them have been fixed. You will still run into symmetry issues, more so if the wireframe is not symmetrical.

I have not checked the core symmetry issue lately.



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Cage ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2012 at 3:13 PM

Thank you!  :woot:  I ended up just going ahead and testing it, and I see no problems so far.  The Morph Brush symmetry feature seems to think Antonia's mesh is asymmetrical, but apparently the weight tools are now better able to handle that.  My experiment with scale weight maps has so far worked out better than under SR 1.  I used to have trouble with Poser periodically dropping the weight data from the file, but so far that seems to be gone.  It looks pretty solid, for most applications.  Excellent!  :woot:

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shvrdavid ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2012 at 6:11 PM · edited Mon, 17 December 2012 at 6:12 PM

I suspect that morph brush error will crop up on anything that the first vertex is not close enough to the centerline.

The first listing in Antonia Standard is.

v  0.00760611  0.65315270  0.02353784

Antonia WM is

v 0.00760611 0.653153 0.0235378

Which isn't very close to the centerline.



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Cage ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2012 at 7:59 PM · edited Mon, 17 December 2012 at 7:59 PM

That's interesting, and it sounds like it might be a bug...?  😕  Are the programming team aware of that one?

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Believable3D ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2012 at 8:20 PM

IIRC, Antonia actually isn't symmetrical anyway, on purpose. Or did that get changed in later development?

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Cage ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2012 at 8:26 PM · edited Mon, 17 December 2012 at 8:26 PM

I don't remember that being so, but it may be true.  Umm.  That's one long thread to try to read the whole thing after coming in late.  :lol:  I do know that I routinely use a morph symmetry script on the figure which has never given me any trouble.  The old MTMirror program also works with at least the head, although it does complain of vertices in identical locations (possibly there is some overlap in the inner mouth somewhere...?).  So if the base mesh is still asymmetrical, it's close enough for most purposes.

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shvrdavid ( ) posted Mon, 17 December 2012 at 8:55 PM

I am not sure if it is a bug or not.

Technically all the vertexes in the center line of a character should be at 0 on the x axis, but very few actually are.

There must be some play allowable because some characters will work with certain routines and not so well with others.

Characters that don't have any vertices on the center line can wreck havoc in many 3D programs when running scripts/utilities, including Poser.



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