Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL

Subject: Making a prop in Poser

arrow1 opened this issue on Dec 20, 2012 · 11 posts

arrow1 posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 5:14 PM

Would it be possible to make through the periscope prop in poser like this picture.I am not very good with modelling programs! Cheers

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bagginsbill posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 5:46 PM

This is not a modeling problem - a one-sided square will do.

Make that texture and use it for a transmap on a square. Position it in front of the camera.

The material should be pure black - no diffuse, no specular.

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Tarkhis posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 5:53 PM

If you mean can you make it look as though you are seeing the seen thru a periscope?

That's probably easiest done in Photoshop.  Just take the image above, cut out the "clear" part leaving the round periscope, ranging markings, etc.  then apply it as a layer over any image you've rendered.

For added effect, add some haze around the edge of the periscope to shade the image as in your picture above.

If you really want to go all out, try a distortion to give it a slight fish eye lens effect using something like Filter Forge, Flaming Pear, etc.

Or you could just use the one I made below.  Happy Holidays

lesbentley posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 8:42 PM

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Quote - If you mean can you make it look as though you are seeing the seen thru a periscope?

No. You need to use a transparency map to pake part of the prop transparent.

lesbentley posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 8:48 PM

Use a transpareny map. A black and white or grey scale image pluged into the Transparency input of the Poser_Surface. Somthing like the image above.

The black parts will be transparent, and the white parts will bo opaque, shades of grey will be somewhere inbetween.

lesbentley posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 9:09 PM

Plug the transparency map into the Transparency input of the Poser_Surface. Set the Transparency value to one. Set the Transparency_Falloff value to zero. For what is wanted here, set the Diffuse, Specular, and Ambient Color to absolute black. See image of the Advanced tab of the Material Room above.

arrow1 posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 9:15 PM

Many thanks for your replies.How do you get the lines and markings on the template? Cheers 

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,2 Terrabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 3060 12 Gig, Intel i9, Dual Dell Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terrabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terrabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,64 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GeForce 1660 Ti 6 Gig,1 Terrabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 10 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus Lenovo Laptop 64 Bit,12 gigs Ram.Intel i7 chip.Windows 10 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.22, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

arrow1 posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 9:18 PM

I should also mention that I am making an animation of a convoy of ships looking through the periscope. Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,2 Terrabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 3060 12 Gig, Intel i9, Dual Dell Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terrabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terrabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,64 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GeForce 1660 Ti 6 Gig,1 Terrabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 10 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus Lenovo Laptop 64 Bit,12 gigs Ram.Intel i7 chip.Windows 10 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.22, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.

Tarkhis posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 9:24 PM

If its an animation then you'll need to use Les' method since it will be rendered as part of the animation.

To answer your question, I copied your image into Photoshop and then used color select to create a mask layer.  If you don't know how to do that, you can just use the one Les created and posted, it will work fine for what you need.

lesbentley posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 9:30 PM

Quote - How do you get the lines and markings on the template? Cheers

Do it in a paint program. Most such apps have a Line Tool for drawing lines. I Used Paint Shop Pro v5.

In Poser, in the Image_Map node, you need to set 'Filtering' to 'Crisp', otherwise the fine lines may be too blured to see.

arrow1 posted Thu, 20 December 2012 at 9:38 PM

Many thanks all.I now have some work to do! Cheers

Custom built computer 128 gigs RAM,2 Terrabyte hard drive, NVIDIA RTX 3060 12 Gig, Intel i9, Dual Dell Screens, 0/S Windows 11, networked to a Special 12th Generation intel I9, RTX 3060 12 Gig, Windows 11,64 gigs RAM, Dual Phillips Screens, 2 Terrabyte SSD Hard Drive plus 1 Terrabyte Hard Drive,3rd Computer intel i7,64 gigs ram, Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GeForce 1660 Ti 6 Gig,1 Terrabyte Hard Drive, OS Windows 10 64 Bit Dual Samsung Syncmaster 226bw Screens.Plus Lenovo Laptop 64 Bit,12 gigs Ram.Intel i7 chip.Windows 10 Pro and Ultimate. 4 x 2 Terrabyte Hard Drives and 2 x 2 Terrabyte external USB Hard drives. All Posers from 4 to Poser 2010 and 2012, 2014. Poser 11 and 12, 13, Hexagon 2.5 64 Bit, Carrara 8.5 Pro 64 bit, Adobe Photoshop CS4 Creative Production Suite. Adobe Photoshop CC 2024, Vue 10 and 10.5 Infinite Vue 11 14.5 Infinite plus Vue 15 and 16 Infinite, Vue 2023 and 2024, Plant Catologue, DAZ Studio 4.22, iClone 7 with 3DXchange and Character Creator 3, Nikon D3 Camera with several lenses.  Nikon Z 6 ii and Z5. 180-600mm lens, 24-70 mm lens with adapter.Just added 2x 2 Terrabyte portable hard drives.