randym77 opened this issue on Jan 07, 2013 · 74 posts
randym77 posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 1:23 PM
Several sites are reporting that Adobe is offering CS2 for free today. It includes Illustrator and Photoshop (older versions, of course).
Their server is getting hammered, not surprisingly, so if you get a 404, try again later. You need to set up an account at Adobe.com first, if you don't already have one.
RedPhantom posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 1:48 PM Site Admin
Forgive me for being skeptical, but could you post some links? Don't see anything at Adobe.
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randym77 posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 2:06 PM
I posted one, which includes a link to the relevant Adobe page (at the bottom of the post). Here are others:
http://gizmodo.com/5973730/grab-photoshop-and-cs2-for-absolutely-free-right-here
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/adobe-creative-suite-2-is-a-free-download/
Some people are getting around the server jam by using the Adobe servers meant for overseas users. (.de, .fr etc. - but you might end up with the software in a foreign language).
Khai-J-Bach posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 2:08 PM
well if it's not legit.. then Adobe are sure slow in taking their own pages offline ... they must be seeing the huge spike on their own servers ;)
LaurieA posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 2:44 PM
This was listed on both GHacks and Gizmodo...both legit sites.
Laurie
randym77 posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 2:47 PM
Supposedly, the reason they are doing this is because they don't want to keep the activation servers running for this older product. So they're just making it free. So maybe there's no need to rush?
There might be some issues with installing it on newer operating systems, but there are solutions on the web if you Google a bit.
LaurieA posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 2:50 PM
It's from Adobe folks..their servers are just getting overwhelmed.
Laurie
RedPhantom posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 2:53 PM Site Admin
I'm sorry, I missed the link in your first post where rendo's font styles for links are so close to the regular text. I do thank you for the info though.
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GKDantas posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 3:12 PM
I got it, its real from Adobe, but you need some trial to get the link working. Its not only PS but the whole Creative Suit CS2 with Premiere 2 pro, Indesign, Illustrator and other stuff. Its about 10GB of things to download for Win users and I got it running fine in Win 8 Pro. The funny thing is that mi Photoshop Elements 8 crash in Win 8!
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RedPhantom posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 3:21 PM Site Admin
Please, what do you mean you need a trial? Trial for what? I'd love to get even an old copy of ps and this is about the only way for me to get it.
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3doutlaw posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 3:42 PM
Its a mistake: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4974775#4974775
Whoops!
Khai-J-Bach posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 3:47 PM
what a mess... I wonder how adobe are going to handle this? there are now a few hundred thousand copies out there...
LaurieA posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 3:52 PM
Yeah, that's a big whoops ;).
Laurie
RedPhantom posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 3:53 PM Site Admin
Oh sure get my hopes up. 
oh well some year...
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hborre posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 4:06 PM
Jan 7, 2013 1:50 PM
Confusion abounds..
Not according to Adobe.
The web is full of rumours about free CS2 - may or may not be false at this stage.
Dov Isaacs (Adobe employee):
"On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated ...
You have heard wrong! Adobe is absolutely not providing free copies of CS2!
What is true is that Adobe is terminating the activation servers for CS2 and that for existing licensed users of CS2 who need to reinstall their software, copies of CS2 that don't require activation but do require valid serial numbers are available.
This is a direct quote for their site.
Khai-J-Bach posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 4:12 PM
well the genies out of the bottle now. by this time, I'd say a few hundred thousand copies are now out there.
*what are adobe going to do? they were the ones that put it in a place that was freely acessable with serials and no security. they also left it for several hours after this went viral, even when their servers were undergoing such a hammering it was effectively a DDOS attack and they would have damn well known what was going on.
right now, if they are smart, they turn this into a PR event and save face and gain trust...
but it's adobe...
3doutlaw posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 4:18 PM
Latest forum post on Adobe, is that an "official statement" is pending from Adobe Exec's...
Crossing fingers now...switched into lurk mode.
JohnDoe641 posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 5:54 PM
Ha! Now this is going to be interesting. :D
Kendra posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 6:45 PM
The link is dead and it looks to be a mistake. Quite a few people got extremely lucky over a screwup. Nothing to see.
...... Kendra
Khai-J-Bach posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 6:48 PM
well apart from studying how a major firm handles a screwup like this..... so far.. I'm not sure what they are doing...the "statement" thats been issued.. frankly makes no sense at all. as in english sense.
3doutlaw posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 7:39 PM
Quote - The link is dead and it looks to be a mistake. Quite a few people got extremely lucky over a screwup. Nothing to see.
Actually, all the download links still work. The serial codes are common and are all in the public domain...and Adobe's official response is not really condemning anything. Its just stating the original intent. They are just now using this relatively benign statement as the formal response at this time.
Other 2 forum links:
Problem they have is in those threads. They acknowledged that it was out there for public consumption, not even the software said anything about purchasing, but just obtaining. This led a whole lot of sites and folks to believe they were doing something that was OK...now they say, oops, that was not really the plan.
The official statement does not say you "cannot" use it, which may be there way of trying to thread the needle here between condoning and condemning.
Its really an interesting story to see unfold
LaurieA posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 7:54 PM
Well, I dunno about the rest of you, but I'd want them to say yes you can use it. LOL. Saying nothing on the subject isn't really saying yes ;).
Laurie
WandW posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 8:04 PM
I had no problem downloading it, although I had just done so for curiosity's sake, as I have PSP...
EDIT: The page is back up at Adobe...
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3doutlaw posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 8:13 PM
I don't think they will say Yes or No. I think they will leave it at that.
For those who downloaded or installed it under stated info, they aren't going to get bad publicity to say remove it. At the time, they did not break any rules.
For those who have not downloaded or installed it, if they care about the intent, they won't take advantage of the situation.
For those who have not downloaded or installed it, if they don't care about the intent, it's probably better for Adobe for them to run a licensed copy of old CS2, versus pirating CS6.
They won't get good or bad press, in this way.
LaurieA posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 8:21 PM
Quote - EDIT: The page is back up at Adobe...
So it is. How strange....
Laurie
3doutlaw posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 8:28 PM
Quote - EDIT: The page is back up at Adobe...
That's interesting. An Adobe login is also no longer required...
shvrdavid posted Mon, 07 January 2013 at 8:28 PM
They really don't have a lot to loose buy giving it away at this point.
Cats out of the bag, and they may even get some sales of newer versions out of it as well.
Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->
lmckenzie posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 1:21 AM
Seems unlikely that running the lic. server was draining their resources - unless they were having trouble getting 486DX replacement parts. I agree that free CS2 might conceivably be an alternative to some instead of pirated newer versions. Throw in a $200 credit on an upgrade while they're at it and make lemonaid.
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RedPhantom posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 7:22 AM Site Admin
They may be stuck between a rock and a hard place. Reading some of the posts on their forums the license says it is legel as long as the software and serial number were obtained from adobe. People are getting the stuff from them and the download page does not it is only for those who already own it. While they might not out right give permission, it's likely they realize they may not have a whole lot of legel standing. "Uh judge we accidently gave software and keys to everyone but we meant only to give it to a few people. Can you still arrest them all even though the license says it's legel if they got it from us?"
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3doutlaw posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 7:42 AM
Yea, I had it all downloaded, but not installed. I probably won't install unless they say its OK to do so. Darn conscience... ;-)
It was a big waste of my time (and bandwidth). It does make me less of an Adobe fan, how it all played out. Rather they officially say, "Sorry our mistake, please remove the software if you are not licensed for it"...versus the guilt trip.
To be honest with Gimp and Paint.net, there's not much I can't do except for the occasional filter or plugin that was made for Photoshop, but same effeect not available in others.
WandW posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 7:48 AM
Since it can be downloaded legally, I would think any issues about its use would be a matter of civil law, not a criminal act, but I'm just a crazy chemist...
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LaurieA posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 7:53 AM
Yeah, I don't see how they can possibly go after anyone (tho I ain't a lawyer either)...lol. I mean, the EULA says if you OBTAINED the software from Adobe you can use it (which, these programs were obtained from Adobe...lol). Maybe their lawyers advised them to keep the wording in their announcement vague on purpose, although I don't understand why. They really screwed the pooch on this one and maybe they realize it but still don't wanna out and out say "To those who downloaded in good faith, it's fine to use it" It IS Adobe after all ;).
Having said all that, I do find it strange that they put the CS2 download site back up with the links AND serials with still not so much as a word to say that it's for current CS2 owners only. You would think they'd make that clear after this huge cluster****.
Laurie
heddheld posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 10:06 AM
grabbed them too but not installed yet not sure I ever will now ;-) misguided fool or robber only Adobe can decide boohoo (funny thing is I put strangeways hotel on(mike harding )
primorge posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 11:17 AM
please... they have the page up with no login required with ID when I checked. Essentially they are saying "take this, don't take this". It makes no sense, and neither does ambiguous hints (with winks) of some kind of higher morality in the face of something so black and white.... what does make sense is that I now have Illustrator and Acrobat (ironic that the Mac downloads only work on PPC, which I have).
Thanks Adobe! I'll sleep fine tonight.
FrankT posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 1:38 PM
Strikes me as cunning marketing :biggrin:
What's the betting at some point in the near future there's a special offer on upgrading from CS2 to CS6 . . .
coldrake posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 4:53 PM
Quote - Strikes me as cunning marketing :biggrin:
What's the betting at some point in the near future there's a special offer on upgrading from CS2 to CS6 . . .
Not likely. As of last year you can only upgrade to the newest version fom the previous version. The only way to upgrade to CS6 is to own CS5. If they had a special offer on upgrading from CS2 to CS6, there would be a LOT of pissed off people who only have CS3 and CS4.
Coldrake
TheOwl posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 7:56 PM
This is ALOT of download!
If I download **Creative Suite 2, **will it contain everything on the list?
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primorge posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 8:54 PM
"This is ALOT of download!"
You're kidding, right?
Never cease to be amazed... I just downloaded the apps I've been dying to have for years, I already owned PS CS (Vr.8) and have it set up with plug-ins and such the way I like it so CS2 wasn't much of a temptation... There's really no substitute for Acrobat pro and up to now Inkscape was my Illustrator stand-in.The door is still open, BTW. Bizarre.
lmckenzie posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 9:19 PM
*"You're kidding, right?**Never cease to be amazed..."*Well, bekieve it or not, not everyone has a high speed connection :-)
*"If I download Creative Suite 2, will it contain everything on the list?" *
AFAIK, yes. * *
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primorge posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 9:26 PM
maybe it's all some kind of strange boobytrap?!...
you ever see one of those trap-door spiders?
Byrdie posted Tue, 08 January 2013 at 10:07 PM
*"If I download Creative Suite 2, will it contain everything on the list?" *
No, just Photoshop CS2, InDesign, Adobe Bridge, Illustrator and something called Version Cue. If you want the rest you have to download each installer and serial separately. Right now I am getting Premier Pro 2, so far everything is still there on the downloads page, no mention of any "Do Not Download Or Use This Software Unless You Meet X Requirements" anywhere on that and it was all working when I installed. I figure it's legit.
LaurieA posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 4:41 AM
The CS disks (three disks), do not not work as far as I'm aware. The individuals all work.
FWIW, I installed AND registered everything the first day (well, the stuff I was interested in....didn't download everything). I've gotten not so much as a phone call or an email and they now have my address, name and phone number...lol. At least they can't say I was trying to put one over on them. LOL I still don't feel good about using it tho, so I'll wait for some sort of "no ya can't or yes ya can". If I don't get one, I'm not quite sure what I'll do since, technically, everything I have is fully registered.
Laurie
3doutlaw posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 6:53 AM
There are instructions on how to get the disks to work correctly on the SlickDeals post, wiki portion, about this.
lmckenzie posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 6:58 AM
Perhaps they can file a DMCA complaint against themselves for facilitating piracy.
Apparently, whoever has the authority/intelligence to fix a nasty PR problen is still recovering from a holiday debauch in some Panamanian brothel. By now, even the janitor would have told them to kill the links or at least put up a bold clarificstion on the download page. At this point, just the bandwidth must be costing as much as some junior VP's monthly expense allowance. I doubt it's some clever ploy, but the alternative makes them seem decidedly incompetent. Maybe it's one of those psychology experiments to see how many kids will take the cookie after they've been told not to. Hopefully, they'll at least share the results with us.
It will be interesting to see what sort of face saving climb down they try do do on this. If they don't want to give CS2 away then need to stop making it available and tell the people who downloaded it to use it in good health - with no support - and try to upsell them. Of course, that would be the smart thing to do and at present, the evidence of their ability to do that isn't much in evidence.
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LaurieA posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 7:20 AM
Well, for my part, I downloaded and installed (and registered) before the news hit that it was an Adobe boo-boo. I'm sort of in a holding pattern - I'd like to feel free to use those programs I installed, but I'm sorta dubious too - and I'm fairly certain Adobe has said all they are going to say on the subject, which is vague at best. I guess I'll eventually do as my conscience allows and since Adobe has left the door wide open (even left the links and keys up as a free-for-all), I tend to lean on the side of "I got it in good faith at the time, even registered it, haven't heard anything to the contrary, so I may use it" LOL. We'll see.
Laurie
Byrdie posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 10:23 AM
Well, I am logged into my Adobe account and the whole thing is still on the downloads page, no changes from yesterday. Still working too, so I guess they know about it. Far as I can tell, there is not much support other than in the forums and a few updates/patches and there is no upgrade path. But it does work on Windows 7 and, I've heard, even on Windows 8 with a little bit of tinkering. Which makes it still useful; if Adobe's smart they'll use this as a bit of positive publicity/creative marketing to promote the latest CS version.
randym77 posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 11:00 AM
Not only did they leave the page up, you no longer have to log in to access it. If they truly don't want people downloading this stuff, they have an odd way of showing it.
Byrdie posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 12:02 PM
True, I have never seen a snafu like this before. Some years ago -- I think it was back when Jasc owned PSP -- there was a similar "accidental" giveaway of version 9, which turned up when I checked for updates and did not even require a serial number, let alone creating user accounts & registering. When they found out it was quickly pulled but they let everyone who had already downloaded know it was OK to keep -- which was a big plus for them in my books when it came time to buy the newest version a couple years later.
aeilkema posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 4:12 PM
You haven't heard the latest news now have you? Adobe is almost bankrupt and this is their way of getting money. Just wait for the letter to arrive in which they are sueing everyone who downloaded. Before you know you're bankrupt and Adobe is out of trouble again.
Anyway, it's odd, they still have it up and running. Now I've got a paid and legit CS5 license here at home. I'm just having one problem with Photoshop CS5, it's slow when editing large images (for posters and such). I've got other image editors (less powerful) which have no trouble handling large sizes, but CS5 is chocking on it. So, I've download CS2, tried Photoshop and it has no trouble at all with the huge image sizes. I may stick to it for editing these images.
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LaurieA posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 4:59 PM
I haven't heard anything about Adobe being close to bankrupt. Where ya getting ur info?
Laurie
Navi posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 5:29 PM
Quote - Not only did they leave the page up, you no longer have to log in to access it. If they truly don't want people downloading this stuff, they have an odd way of showing it.
Indeed Oo
Thanks to the poster of this thread, I hadn't heard about this before !
WandW posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 5:44 PM
Quote - I haven't heard anything about Adobe being close to bankrupt. Where ya getting ur info?
Adobe is doing quite well, with net income up nearly 30% over 2011...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-13/adobe-revenue-profit-top-estimates-on-software-demand.html
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LaurieA posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 5:50 PM
Quote - > Quote - I haven't heard anything about Adobe being close to bankrupt. Where ya getting ur info?
Adobe is doing quite well, with net income up nearly 30% over 2011...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-13/adobe-revenue-profit-top-estimates-on-software-demand.html
So I read. An 8% chance of bankruptcy and the fact that the price of their shares were at the highest ever just this month....they ain't going anywhere anytime soon. LOL I just love misinformation ;).
estherau posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 7:23 PM
You would think so many downloads would imply that if their prices were more reasonable many more people would buy their software and possibly upgrade when the new versions come along. they have great software but I think they charge too much, particularly not enough discounts to loyal customers who have paid big bucks for previous versions.
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hborre posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 8:07 PM
Like in the movies, a drug lord floods the city streets with free samples to hook the victums in and have them coming back for more.
lmckenzie posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 10:07 PM
This if from a non-Adobe site which says that it is a quote from Adobe's forum. I can't get the latter to load so don't take it as gospel. There is a Terri Stone listed as the online community mgr. for CS.
"Quote :
Terri Stone:
I don't think you have to worry about Adobe coming after you for this, union_bug.
As soon as our execs have approved an official statement on this issue, I or another Adobe staffer will post it here."
Of course, at best, this is her guess - and she apparently wasn't in Panama :-) No idea what union_bug is, unless its a synonym for cluster f__k. Or database union error which might explain why they published the software links when all they should have posted was the serials for current owners.
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Byrdie posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 10:27 PM
Er, union_bug isn't a synonym for anything. It's the username of someone who posted in the Adobe forums asking for clarification as to whether folks who'd already downloaded & installed this thing in good faith would get in trouble if the maybe-free CS2 is officially announced as Definitely Not Free by those with the authority to do so.
primorge posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 10:41 PM
You're correct Byrdie, I read that also... still no official word though.
markschum posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 11:22 PM
oh excrement,
I downloaded part of the cs2 set today from an open download page with serial numbers that I got to by searching adobe site for free cs2.
Now I read this forum and wonder wut ?
I have Photoshop elements 3 which does what I need (and can cope with) so I have just lost several hours of time using my libraries wifi link.
headdesk
lmckenzie posted Wed, 09 January 2013 at 11:56 PM
"Er, union_bug isn't a synonym for anything. It's the username of someone who posted in the Adobe forums"
Ah, perhaps that should have been obvious but, not being able to see the context of the Adobe, forum post, and missed the comma. As someone said, commas are important as in 'Let's eat grandpa' or the infamous line about helping your Uncle Jack dismount from an equine.
I still like my synonym better :-)
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primorge posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 12:27 AM
...OK. Adobe still hasn't shut this down. CS2 is free no questions asked.
The End.
Netherworks posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 1:07 AM
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
Okay, it was a mistake on their part...
... but the download links are still up to products that do not require activation.
... with serial numbers.
... and they are accessable without even signing in with your adobe ID.
.<
And their own EULA works against them here because: The downloads are from adobe (check). The serials are from adobe (check).
So they are unable to obscure the serials? Or only give them to those that own the original products? Really confusing what is going on here.
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markschum posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 1:54 AM
Adobe is going to either:
a. issue a statement saying "yes its free "
b. issue a statement saying "its a mistake, its not free , delete it unless you own cs2"
c. ignore the whole thing and never mention it again.
popcorn
heddheld posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 2:24 AM
for me A is great B or C means delete
might just delete anyhow if they dont make there minds up soon
gimp has done me well for a long time (and they NEVER had one eye on me wallet lol)
primorge posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 3:12 AM
I'm leaning toward options a. and c.
if they were going to say "its a mistake, its not free , delete it unless you own cs2" they would have taken some kind of action to contain the damage... Instead they completely disabled any kind of regulation of the downloads.
I'm really perplexed why there seems to be all of this "noble" hemming and hawing.
It serves no purpose in the face of the obvious (and that's my socially polite way of putting it).
Ps. I've used Gimp when I didn't have PS for a little bit. Gimp simply is NOT in the same league as Photoshop.
fonpaolo posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 4:12 AM
Quote - ...
Ps. I've used Gimp when I didn't have PS for a little bit. Gimp simply is NOT in the same league as Photoshop.
I do agree with you that it's not the same, but it really does a good job, and it's free!
(Just waiting to download this or not... *goes back in lurk mode)
LaurieA posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 4:46 AM
Quote - Adobe is going to either:
a. issue a statement saying "yes its free "
b. issue a statement saying "its a mistake, its not free , delete it unless you own cs2"
c. ignore the whole thing and never mention it again.
popcorn
I think Adobe has said all they are going to say. Vague, yes. But all they're gonna say. The fact that they put the page of downloads and serials back up AFTER issueing their vague statement is telling.
Laurie
Dale B posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 7:26 AM
....Or they have format changes in the works that will block off use of CS2 or earlier products from more than basic function.....
Plus how many out there are really going to stay satisfied with decade old tech?
And yes, I have the parts of the suite I hadn't bought before.... 8D And if they prove useful, will be considering getting the current version. But in the meantime...PARTY...!!!
LaurieA posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 7:31 AM
I've had Photoshop 7 all these years. Worked just fine for what I needed it for ;). Now I have two versions newer. I'm satisfied with old tech. LOL.
As for blocking off CS2 from functions, how can they? These versions don't call home. That was the whole point of them.
If I had the funds, I'd definitely be getting the newest version. And when I do, I will. But until then, this version will do nicely ;).
Laurie
RorrKonn posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 9:35 AM
Disclaimer
I do not use hacker versions.
I do not have Max.
I do not have Adobe.
Adobe ,Max knows there newest versions are on hackers web sites.
Don't know why they would even worry about CS2.
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Rosemaryr posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 11:17 AM
I still use Photoshop 6!
Like LaurieA said, it's worked fine for my needs for a long time. Admittedly, I had been looking into making an investment in the latest version of Photoshop, but I would still have had to wait for funds for that step.
lmckenzie posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 9:59 PM
I still use Corel PhotoPaint 8 for most things and it’s closer to two decade old technology. Many of these programs have been churning out new versions for years. IMO, a lot of that has been more creative marketing than adding to or improving the core features that most people use. That’s not to say that they don’t add neat stuff, but I often see maybe one ‘kinda neat’ feature in a long list of yawns. I think one reason they only give you a good discount on upgrading from the last version is that a lot of people would go years before the cumulative changes justified an upgrade. Basically, the only other way they can goose people is by changing the format of things like filters and actions - that, or Apple/Microsoft do it for them. In this case, Windows users are apparently better off.
IANAL so I’ll wait for a few real hammerheads and great whites to opine in the tech press on the legal stuff. As for the ethics (as opposed to the law), for the moment, Adobe has said that you’re not supposed to have this – their incredibly obtuse actions not withstanding. I don’t see the value in mocking anyone with ethical doubts - without regard to what my personal take might be. In fact, I will think less of Adobe, from a broad ethical standpoint, if they say nothing. It would be kind of a chickens__t way to do things in my view.
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RorrKonn posted Thu, 10 January 2013 at 11:47 PM
What OS Do you run Corel Photopaint 8 on ?
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lmckenzie posted Fri, 11 January 2013 at 2:04 AM
"What OS Do you run Corel Photopaint 8 on ?"
XP. A quick search shows problems with Win 7 and a possible fix - may work for 8 too YMMV.
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"After the crash, I found a mention of MFC42 by looking at the System Event Log. (Windows-7 is reluctant to tell you the error messages directly.)
I dug up a pre-Windows-7/Vista version of MFC42.DLL from another app on my computer, copied it into the same folder as the Corel executable, and voila, Photo-Paint now works. Yay"
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PP is fast. stable and does most everything I need and I'm too hooked on the interface to have patience with anything else. The only drawback is that it doesn't support many PhotoShop filters and no actions. I can use some filters in my graphics viewer (XNview). PS-CS2 might be nice for the occasional technique I see without having to try to translate to PP. Still, I'd probably get Premier first :-)
I see that poor Terri is working overtime trying to keep the Adobe forums from turning into RendoWars. I wonder if this flap will do aything to Corel's stock price, since they probably own a big chunk of of the poor man's PhotoShop market with PP and PSP. Even an old version of PP might cut into their sales, IF Adobe stops trying to say that they did it but they didn't inhale.
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