Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL

Subject: boot issues, V4

mystmaiden opened this issue on Feb 03, 2013 · 14 posts

mystmaiden posted Sun, 03 February 2013 at 11:34 AM

Hi everyone. You guys are smart, maybe you can help me. Its a given that conforming clothes are the bane of my existance but this one has plain beaten me. I fiddled with these boots for two hours last night and was not one iota better off when I ended than when I began. Not only can I not get everything duly tucked into the boot but also the heels or toes are consistantly stabbing into the floor no matter how many times I hit the 'drop to the floor'. (the floor issue seems consistent in Poser 7). Is there some trick, hint or secret to getting Dark Rose boots to fit? I love this outfit and wanted it forever but its not really the same without the cute boots and stockings.

Thanks,

mystmaiden

foxylady1 posted Sun, 03 February 2013 at 11:52 AM

Sometimes, not often, I have an item that gives me fits also.  When I have tried everything I can think of and figured that I have spent too much time fiddling and not rendering, I go to the character and hide parts.  What happens when you go to V4's foot and click off the visibility option? If the toes are a problem, hide those.

Was there a "foot pose" file in the pz2 files? 

Morana posted Sun, 03 February 2013 at 12:26 PM

Hiding the feet and toes is sometimes just the only thing that can be done, and helps keep a person a little more sane.

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foxylady1 posted Sun, 03 February 2013 at 12:55 PM

Quote - Hiding the feet and toes is sometimes just the only thing that can be done, and helps keep a person a little more sane.

And it only takes a nano-second, not hours.   LOL

WandW posted Sun, 03 February 2013 at 4:24 PM

Quote - Hiding the feet and toes is sometimes just the only thing that can be done, and helps keep a person a little more sane.

 

I just looked at the boots, and the boots are not fully rigged; there are no foot and toe actors at all, so hiding the feet is all you can do. 

Makes me glad I only paid $1.99 for it...  :rolleyes:

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Kendra posted Sun, 03 February 2013 at 9:14 PM

I pretty much assume and just hide the feet with all shoes.

...... Kendra

grichter posted Sun, 03 February 2013 at 10:24 PM

As far as the drop to floor issue, that happens on most thick soled shoes. The drop to floor is controlled off the actors bare feet I beleive and can't account for the sole or heel.

Long time ago I put in an enhancement request to the Poser developers to allow the shoe makers to code in an offset that is taken into account for drop to floor. Sort of like how you can adjust the orgin in a prop. Maybe they will get around to it in Poser Pro Version 2092 or so.:blink:

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mystmaiden posted Mon, 04 February 2013 at 12:22 AM

Thanks for the replies everyone. I have hidden the V4 foot, but I didn't see a way to hide that part the stocking. Maybe I missed it, if there is a way to do that then problem solved. I didn't see a foot pose included in the package though.

hornet3d posted Mon, 04 February 2013 at 9:15 AM

I try to ensure that any figures in my renders do not hover off the floor but it can be difficult to get the placement right for the reason given. The way I work when I have problems is to place a camera beneath the ground and drop the figure to the floor, if there is a problem with the footware the soles, heels or both will appear. I then lift the figure until the offending parts disappear.

 

 

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.

WandW posted Mon, 04 February 2013 at 9:28 AM

Quote - Thanks for the replies everyone. I have hidden the V4 foot, but I didn't see a way to hide that part the stocking. Maybe I missed it, if there is a way to do that then problem solved. I didn't see a foot pose included in the package though.

These would have been much better as prop boots rather than a conforming figure.

There is a foot pose under Dark Rose, but it doesn't hide the feet.

You can hide the feet and toes of the foot and stocking by selecting each and unchecking Visible on the Poperties pane for each actor.  They really should have included a pose for this which could be applied to both V4 and the stockings...

 

EDIT: here's a hide foot pose for V3 that should work...

 

http://www.hogsoft.com/content/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=351&view=previous

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mystmaiden posted Mon, 04 February 2013 at 1:24 PM

Thanks! I'll play with it today now that I'm not so frustrated. One thing that may be making it worse is that the pose I am using is kind of awkward as far as the feet. Maybe I can fiddle with that a bit, too. I am woefully bad at posing characters, I can not seem to wrap my mind around the fact that they do not bend and move as we do. In the end, I pretty much assume that the difficulties I have are operator error rather than vendor oversight, lol.

Morana posted Mon, 04 February 2013 at 2:27 PM

Another way of making that portion of the stockings disappear would be to create a rough transparency for it and hack them off at the ankles.  I've done that for pant legs that I wanted under high boots.  It's not very elegant, but it works.

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mystmaiden posted Mon, 04 February 2013 at 5:12 PM

Thank you, thats a good idea, too.

I did discover what I had done that messed up the works so badly to begin with. The good news is - the dark rose foot pose does seem to work well But - here's where I screwed up. I reposed the character after using it and forgot that, logically, one would have to repose the feet with the dark rose foot pose afterward. To help with the stabbing through the floor issue I loaded a floor prop which helped to give me a bit more perspective, then as hornet3d suggested, used a camera below the floor to adjust where the model was.

Thanks to everyone for all the great replies, I think this is the first time I've ever used a whole outfit without major poke through issues to try to solve with post work which is extremely good because my postworking skills are pretty much non-existant!

thanks again :)

mystmaiden posted Sat, 09 February 2013 at 5:33 PM

I finally finished the image but simply had to give up on the stockings. There was also little glitch in the original skirt texture that most people probably could have fixed in post work but I couldn't figure it out so I spent another 2 bucks at daz and bought another texture.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2411528

Certainly not perfect, but better than I originally hoped for before all the help I got here

 

thanks!!