I was so surprised seeing the new look. looks awesome

Hate it-it look's ghastly

Old in the head-New to learning.

Light grey lettering on a white background is a really, really bad idea.

 

The new look sucks ass.

They are still working on it. It will take a minute to get it exactly the way it should.  Please be patient while we work through this

yup, hate it too... looks unfinished, or that there is a scripting error, Don't know about you guys but it looks squashed. 

Please see my post above

Setup work's and look's fine but the colour's ? Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh

Old in the head-New to learning.

Please see my post above

erm Stacey... dear...

erm... you know... those of us that use custom code... well... it's a right screwup for me right now and it's not a "wait till it's done " problem LOL ... more a "could you turn off the custom code please until we're done..." thing...

I kind of like it so far (but I'm easy to please heh)

but what's with the big gap above the text ?

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LOL ... I was already going nuts thinking my Firefox would acting up on me. Looks good so far.

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Smeagol-What did you do with that bloody ring ? I need it to hide from the nasty colour's...

Old in the head-New to learning.

oh.. and some warning would have been nice... looks on front page and sees nothing...

*and everyone else getting several inserted lines on each post as well?

On site notification ( new post's ) not working here but email message is...

Open contest's/contest's result's page's writing is covering images

Old in the head-New to learning.

i like the layout, though can't say i am terribly enamored with the white boxes all over the place.

perhaps an off white could be considered?

I hate the new look!

I want renderosity back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks to me like the re-design is to make the site more s-phone/tablet friendly.  Since I often buy off the mobile device while on the road, that's a plus to me.  That said, I have noticed that a few pages where the text is badly washed out due to things like blue text on a grey background... my inbox being one of them, unfortunately.

 

wince

I'll wait and see what it looks like when the issues are fixed.

yeah..I know they are working still..but please ..in site mail I can not read the text. My old eyes cant see the text. It is too close to being the same color as the background..

How do we find the clerance section now?

can't read my inbox mail text at all... why do you guys keep making it harder for us to use the site?? I could not even figure out the market place "thumbnails"... found them by accident... hate hate hate it...

oh well, needed to save money.   :(

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Quote - How do we find the clerance section now?

Good catch.  It's in the "filter by" drop down menu, but a direct link would be nice too.

Yuk!!!   Hate it already!!!!

 

bring back old theme please!!!

Quote - oh.. and some warning would have been nice... looks on front page and sees nothing...

*and everyone else getting several inserted lines on each post as well?

 

DOM inspector says each post begins  by inserting a image, which accounts for the extra spacing.   The CSS is being globally applied by bootstrap.css to the image tag which is setting a height of auto.

So techincally two errors.  Why the null image (image is named null) and why use global level CSS styling?

 

 

 

 

The text on the dark blue is fine. Unfortunately I have a 23" monitor which leaves a huge amount of that ugly blue that makes me seasick when I scroll.  Hopefully I can fix it with firefox.

 

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I stopped looking in on DAZ forums for this very reason, if it ain't broke don't fix it!!!!

 

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2415569&&np

'Nuff said....

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Hell, now Renderosity looks like DAZ3D.

 

Why on Earth would you want to emulate that death-spiral of a company?

 

Barf.

Change is always good. If nothing else, this makes everybody wake up and take notice.

It is now just as user friendly as FB - not what I would call a comfortable setting for digital artists, but it is certainly sterile and professional.  I'm sure we'll all adapt and it may bring in more newbies.  Nice try by IT and I hope it helps boosts user numbers.

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Quote - Change is always good. If nothing else, this makes everybody wake up and take notice.

Yikes, no it's not always good. Only when it's needed and is a change for the better.

Please tell me that when it's all done things will be smaller and closer together so we don't have to scroll down a few miles to read and/or see things.

And the light turquoise lettering on darker turquoise is practically unreadable - even worse when you scroll over it and it turns the same color as the background!  Also unreadable is the light turquoise on - is that blue or gray? - in the mail.  Hopefully this is not the way it will end up.  How many more minutes to wait till it's fixed please?

The only good thing I see so far is the ability I don't think existed before to select mutilple things in your wishlist to then do stuff like delete, make private or public, etc...

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So.. Is there something wrong with my pc or is this supposed to show up when the curser hovers over the word "Site."

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That would be something wrong with your PC.

Quote - DOM inspector says each post begins  by inserting a image, which accounts for the extra spacing.   The CSS is being globally applied by bootstrap.css to the image tag which is setting a height of auto.

So techincally two errors.  Why the null image (image is named null) and why use global level CSS styling?

 

this could be corrected if one of the columns in the table was set to autosize and table itself was not set to a fixed width.  it seperates the men from the boys in web site design...just like setting a static image for a background instead of having it scroll with the page...little details such as these two exaples are very telling about who is working on a web site.

I am still puzzled why the code for the forums is inserting the image in the first place?  

Whoa.. I did not expect this...

I bright white bar at the top of an otherwise toned down look. That's plain nasty and hard on the eyes. The colors for the links are quite bad in combination with the general background color. This needs to be changed.

And there appears to be a bug: An image is inserted at the start of every post, specifically with this code: <img width="150" height="10" src="../../art/null.gif">

On firefox this creates a pretty large space between the post header and the actual post text.

 edit: the image thing was already mentioned... didn't notice the second page :)

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Actually the spacing happens in both Firefox 19 and Chrome 24.

It does not happen in IE 9.

And this folks, is why we do cross browser testing in web development.

Quote - > Quote - How do we find the clerance section now?

Good catch.  It's in the "filter by" drop down menu, but a direct link would be nice too.

where is the "filter by" drop-down menu? or were you just joking?

3D view of the DOM for forums clearly showing the rendering issue with the image:

I'm getting all kinds of ghastly after-images blobs, just from glancing at it.  I have to keep my monitor turned (unfortunately) bright in order to make sure my images have decent color.  That makes white backgrounds VERY uncomfortable to look at. Not happy... but will be patient.  But also... dot...dot...dot... not shopping either.

So now, in line 9 of main.css you have the following rule.

 

.forum_message_cell img {height: 10px;}

 

Which, being a global declare for the image tag within a element of that class, makes every inserted image in a post 10px high.  

 

Really, fix the scoping or remove the image.  You just broke everyone's signature images.

Quote - Smeagol-What did you do with that bloody ring ? I need it to hide from the nasty colour's...

 

LOL! :laugh:

We hates it, precious.... We hates it...

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"null" Image no longer appearing in the DOM.

Above mentioned CSS removed, can see images as they were previously.

Fix looks good in IE 9, Chrome 24 and Firefox 19.

I personally thank the programmers for changing the fold down menus. must easier to access without having it disappear before one can select the particular item they need

The drop-down menus are fine - no issues there. I just hope they do something with:

1. That glaring, white band at the top of the pages... Visually 'shocking' and distracting IMHO..

2. Change the active/visited link text color to something us old geezers can actually see with out a magnifying glass...

I'd love to see the BG color toned down a bit, but I'll live with it, I guess....

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I just have a lot of white boxes and then the rendo' blue in the middle (there's stuff in the boxes but it just looks like the background colour didn't load)

 

I thought it was a script error at first as well

Quote - How do we find the clerance section now?

Hey Tigger

It took me awhile to find it.

Goto the "Marketplace" tab

scroll down to "Sale Items"

You'll see a bar marked "Dept".

On the middle of that bar you'll see "Filter By", click on that

On the middle of the dropdown menu, you'll see "Clearance"

Quote - Actually the spacing happens in both Firefox 19 and Chrome 24.

It does not happen in IE 9.

And this folks, is why we do cross browser testing in web development.

Well, then, that would explain why the bar graphics on the right is covering up a portion of the text in the middle for me.  Same thing seems to be happening at Daz as well.  Yes, I'm on Internet Explorer 9.  I'm starting to wonder if they're preparing for Windows 8 / Internet Explorer 10.

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I just loaded up Rendo on my tablet.  It actually looks pretty good. Still don't like the color scheme.  The other one was much prettier and easier on the eyes. At least the menus work on the tablet now and its sized perfectly.

 Oh, and Rendo? When i try to position my cursor in the reply box, the website has a nasty habit of jumping to the top of the page. Also when i closed the keyboard, it did it, too.  Samsung Galaxy Note 10.2 tablet. This NEEDS to be fixed! I have to scroll all the way back down to the bottom of the page to post my reply.

Loads faster, works smoothly, and seems more mobile device-friendly.  I understand more tweaks are being done and the final form of the website is yet to appear.  

 

I am not certain that I like the site looking much like the Daz3D one, which, at this time, it resembles.  Only because a distinct identity is more valuable. Not a big issue if I use the marketplace and forums. Just saying.

 

Eternal Hobbyist

 

They also need to learn about color contrast.  Dark-on-dark or light-on-light makes for poor readability (plus serious eye strain).

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Quote - They also need to learn about color contrast.  Dark-on-dark or light-on-light makes for poor readability (plus serious eye strain).

 

I am quite sure that their web people are youngsters.

Yuck.

I rarely post on the forums but felt I should, if adding my post to the others about the new format counts for anything.

Do not like the white boxes around the products's promo images. Looks cheap, not luscious.  A darker color like the charcoal in the forum would be more attractive as well as easier to look at.  I'd put it like this, how many people look attractive in a plain white shirt?

There's a bug in the galleries, at least the individual ones.  The blue space on the top of the text is bleeding over the row above it.

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(using Poser Pro 2014 SR3, on 64 bit Win 7, poser units are inches.)

There is an error in the Sidebar of the Gallery which is the result of the bootstrap.css file using the following rule:

blockquote small:before {<br></br>  content: '2014 �0A0';<br></br>}

This is causing the Date Posted in the Tip of the Week to sometimes break out of the sidebar and bleed over the edges.   You can see this in the Gallery for an image in IE 9, Chrome 24 and Firefox 19.

Quote - Well, then, that would explain why the bar graphics on the right is covering up a portion of the text in the middle for me.  Same thing seems to be happening at Daz as well.  Yes, I'm on Internet Explorer 9.  I'm starting to wonder if they're preparing for Windows 8 / Internet Explorer 10.

This sounds like you are viewing the page Zoomed in.  Try hitting CTRL-0  (That's Zero) to reset your Zoom Factor.  See if that fixes it.

Quote - > Quote - Well, then, that would explain why the bar graphics on the right is covering up a portion of the text in the middle for me.  Same thing seems to be happening at Daz as well.  Yes, I'm on Internet Explorer 9.  I'm starting to wonder if they're preparing for Windows 8 / Internet Explorer 10.

This sounds like you are viewing the page Zoomed in.  Try hitting CTRL-0  (That's Zero) to reset your Zoom Factor.  See if that fixes it.

Nope, I'm definitely in normal view.

EDIT:  Forgot to mention, though it may not make any difference:  I'm on a widescreen monitor (Samsung SyncMaster 206BW).

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I actually find the glaring contrast of all those white boxes against the blue to be so hard on the eyes that I can't look around long enough to make a fair assessment of any of the changes. I do, however, feel a pounding headache coming on.

I will wait to see if the colors and look improves but at least the site still works the same. I look forward to seeing what it looks like before making a final judgement.

I don't especially like the new layout, but I can deal with it. The colors are horrifying. Looking at this makes me wince because there is far too much harsh contrast going on. As I type this, I have a bright white header with black letters, then immediately below it is a blue section with grey letters. That's awful.

Change up the colors to be more muted and I won't mind nearly as much.

And I agree, all change is not good simply for the sake of being changed. The site could benefit from more tablet friendly interfacing, but it should not have to be painful to look at to achieve that.

I don't like the whole idea... to make every site "tablet friendly". On my 21 inches LCD screen this new layour looks bad.

 Please... give to the users an option to change the color scheme... this white is distracting and hurts eyes.

I took a look at the sourcecode of the page and it's a mess.

• The header has some meta tags wich are 'self-closing'. That's not correct for this document type (HTML 4.01).
• There are stylesheet links outside of the header (bootstrap). They're placed inside the body tag.
• The header tag is used. This is a HTML5 element. Doctype is HTML4.01
• Overall the tables are a mess. Tags in places they shouldn't be. Things not closed properly.
• Links need to be properly encoded

Looks like the designers didn't use any form of validating tools because my validators are going haywire on this page. This shouldn't have been released yet. This looks like a work in progress. You just don't mess with a live site like this. Make your changes, rigorously test it. Make sure your markup is valid, then you release it/go live. Sure there can be the odd little bug, but not like this. "They're working on it" is not a valid excuse.

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In 'My Forum Options' you can define custom CSS. There's an option to show the default CSS. That is basically unreadable because of the color forced by the !important on the body text color. Looks like they forgot to add a styling for the class assigned to the div that shows the default CSS.

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The background White is killing my eye's not the writing. :(

Huge white areas with strain-inducing gray text...did you forget that people who do visual art kind of, you know, need to keep their eyes healthy?  This is a rather thoughtless revamp.

 

blue bg for blue links, or gray rubriques in profil, beurk.

And letter "y" is eaten by location in the galleries with the new presentation.

 

Finally, I agree that the white band is not great for the eyes.

the header could possibly be less white or lets say inmid grey maybe.surfing is ok in firefox all is easy to find.except the mouse-over but these issues are beeing adressed as i write this,

yeah lets go ahead.

Thanks to everyone that helped me find the clearance section. :)

Quote - I actually find the glaring contrast of all those white boxes against the blue to be so hard on the eyes that I can't look around long enough to make a fair assessment of any of the changes. I do, however, feel a pounding headache coming on.

Yes, indeed. I really hope they change the white to something a bit more off-white.  I've been logged in less than ten minutes and my eyes are watering.  I won't be spending much time here at Rendo until all the white is toned down.   As a consequence, I'll probably be spending less money here (which is good for my wallet, if bad for Rendo).  My eye sight is bad enough without having a content store contributing to going blind faster. LOL

The drop-down menus work very fine (with Opera) . But the colors are bad, in particular the white. Is not good for eyes.

Quote - The drop-down menus work very fine (with Opera) . But the colors are bad, in particular the white. Is not good for eyes.

 

 i agree should be a bit darker i use firefox and it works fine and fast.

When I came to the site, I thought my  browser was messed up. The new site design is GHASTLY! It looks like the designer just gave up and left halfway through the project. Yecch.

"Facts are the enemy of truth."

The top is a bit better now could be a bit darter gray but all the white behind the product pic. is too much & to bright.   

Not a fan of the new look, colors are terrible, far too white for me. Some texts bleed into another box text, photostamps are smaller, while the detail text is far bigger than it needs to be.

Looks like an amateurish cut and paste job, that was not tested before going live.

BTW, the arrow keys below the feature sales box don't work. (Least for me) Whoever did this mess, fire them.

I come back with a screenshot showing some letters disappear half (I do not have all pointed)
And all who pass here: do not forget to check the color of your pasge artist.

And signs are odd in places on the site.

Framework for comment in the galleries is too long and not wide enough :(((((

Be careful buying things until they get things sorted. I tried to make a purchase this morning and entered my Credit Cart info like I always do. I got the usual email that the order had been placed, but it shows as being Unpaid and that $0.00 has been paid. The page is also showing that my payment method is Pay Pal...but I didnt use Pay Pal. I used my Credit Card...this is really messed up and reminds me of DAZ..

Thanks for the warning, guess that Rendo is off my shopping list until they fix things, that didn't need fixing in the first place.

for some reason i'm having some sort off really bad flash back....with another site i visited frequently in the past.

 

Please Renderosity keep you're own identity and site look and feel!

Quote - I don't like the whole idea... to make every site "tablet friendly".

Thank you.  I've gotten tired of the mentality of making things great for tablets and screw everything else.  I've almost never seen a site update in the past few years actually get better visual due to that mentality being so common.  What's sad is that there are a few useful improvements in here but you have to deal with the other problems.

The thing I dont understand is..how many people use their tablets to create 3d artwork on? Maybe I am ancient and behind the times perhaps..but I use a desk top computer with 2 large monitors. So that being said..I would think that the majority of people that use this site, do not do their shopping on this site using a tablet do they??

Quote - The thing I dont understand is..how many people use their tablets to create 3d artwork on? Maybe I am ancient and behind the times perhaps..but I use a desk top computer with 2 large monitors. So that being said..I would think that the majority of people that use this site, do not do their shopping on this site using a tablet do they??

I was thinking the exact same thing!

Quote - > Quote - The thing I dont understand is..how many people use their tablets to create 3d artwork on? Maybe I am ancient and behind the times perhaps..but I use a desk top computer with 2 large monitors. So that being said..I would think that the majority of people that use this site, do not do their shopping on this site using a tablet do they??

I was thinking the exact same thing!

Thank you! At least now I know I am not the only one with this thinking! I do have and use a tablet..but not for shopping here. When I shop here I am always on my big computer where I do my work. So this trying to cater to the tablet users makes no sense to me...

Yeah, I have an iPad myself, but I don't have a Poser or Daz Studio app for it, ha ha.  I have occasionally looked at this site on it, but have never BOUGHT anything while surfing on my iPad... doesn't make sense.  I buy all my items from the computer I actually use the 3D programs on, and that's not coincidentally where I do most of my shopping from, as well.

Quote - > Quote - How do we find the clerance section now?

Hey Tigger

It took me awhile to find it.

Goto the "Marketplace" tab

scroll down to "Sale Items"

You'll see a bar marked "Dept".

On the middle of that bar you'll see "Filter By", click on that

On the middle of the dropdown menu, you'll see "Clearance"

 

Or you can just go to the "Filter By" tab at the top of every Marketplace page.  Clearance is the fifth selection from the top.  What's nice is this means you can do a sort by category, then pull up the Prime, Sale, Clearance, etc., items within that search range without having to back track.  

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - The thing I dont understand is..how many people use their tablets to create 3d artwork on? Maybe I am ancient and behind the times perhaps..but I use a desk top computer with 2 large monitors. So that being said..I would think that the majority of people that use this site, do not do their shopping on this site using a tablet do they??

I was thinking the exact same thing!

Thank you! At least now I know I am not the only one with this thinking! I do have and use a tablet..but not for shopping here. When I shop here I am always on my big computer where I do my work. So this trying to cater to the tablet users makes no sense to me...

 

Add me too.  My 3d PC is where i purchase, do my artwork and do my song writting, its my business PC if you like. I only trust pieces of wire connected to sites where i purchase, perhaps old fashioned common sence..

 

Is Rendo trying to go down the same losing road as DAZ?  Shame if they are as DAZ hardly get anyof my business these days!!!

love to use my ipad, for reading forums and sites. However did use it 1 time for a purchase. But i can tell you, never again (my main internet connection was out, if it happens again i will wait until thats fixed ) .

It is easier to use a workstation and download/install the product after the purchase. I really prefer my workstation, and market sites that are aimed at/build for normal screens.

 

Not liking this website change at all.

Three things in particular:

1 I have a laptop, and don't run my browser (IE9) at full screen width for various reasons that aren't going to change. With other sites I visit, that's no problem. With Renderosity as it was, that's no problem. With this new version of the website, many pages have the formatting severely screwed at the browser width I use: tings in columns running on over adjacent things, columns of thumbnails right outside the background column they are supposed to be in etc. Seriously not cool and very poor web design.

2 Going to a product page, I have to scroll down seemingly forever to get to the product description. MUCH too much scrolling needed.

3 Previously clicking on the merchant's name on a product page produced a menu, on which clicking on 'contact' took one to the merchants main member page, from which i could click to their gallery and/or freestuff. And that's something i do quite a lot - wanting to go from a product page to the merchant's gallery or freestuff. Now, clicking on the name on the product page and then contact just takes me to my sitemail new message page with the merchant's name filled in (which was a click from the member page before) and there appears to be no link on a product page that i can follow to get to the merchant's gallery or freestuff. i appear to have to go to the galleries or freestuff and type in the merchant's name to search for their gallery or freestuff. Don't like this - I want a click path from the merchant's product page to their gallery and/or freestuff without me having to type in searches. Please add a new link to the merchant's member page from their product page if the 'contact' link is going to remain a link to a new IM page to them.

All in all, I'm not a happy Renderosity user. Aspects of the last site change I didn't like have already cut down the amount of shopping I do here. The issues above with this latest change, if they aren't addressed, will lose most of the rest of my potential business from the merchants, unfortunately.

I do not own an iPad.  I do not intend to purchase an iPad or any other tablet mechanism.  I'm not an Apple person, so it makes no sense for me to use an i-Anything and tablets are too expensive for me.  I have a desktop and a laptop and that is all that I will ever use.  I don't care if there are umpteen million tablets out there, I'm not one of them, I will never be one of them, and to assume that I am one of them is an insult to my intelligence.

 

RENDEROSITY, FIX THIS THING NOW!!!!

ahem<  I feel better now.  Thank you for your patience.

The Rapierman:  Intelligence with a sword and a smile.

I look at new Renderosity and see... BOOTSTRAP everywhere :) I don't like Bootstrap too much. It's been trendy and used recently on many websites which makes them all look the same. It easy and fast to use (especially for developers) but at the same time it destroys individuality. But it's only my point of view.

In my opinion all the white elements on darker background may distract users. I personally can't focus on the content!

I don't think I'm supposed to mention it but it's been 2 hours, and  the site's still ugly as sin.

I think they are done with it???

Quote - I think they are done with it???

 

That'd be a shame.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2863972  Please see the info at this link. We are going to be looking at the colors here in just a little bit, I had stated it would be today and it will be just bug issues took priority this morning so NO we are not done with it as I also stated I will be starting a new thread for feedback/issues once we get a little further along with everything. In the meantime, please please bear with us as we work through these changes.

 

 

Quote - http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2863972  Please see the info at this link. We are going to be looking at the colors here in just a little bit, I had stated it would be today and it will be just bug issues took priority this morning so NO we are not done with it as I also stated I will be starting a new thread for feedback/issues once we get a little further along with everything. In the meantime, please please bear with us as we work through these changes.

 

 

Okidoke, thanks.  For the record, the white on blue is really, REALLY jarring.  (The white banner mixed with the font is very DAZ-ish, too.)

I still hate it...

Want my old Rendo back , pretty please!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I don't use a tablet, and probably never will. But it's a waste of time trying to convince the powers-that-be at Renderosity to un-do the assinine "improvements" they have put in place.

Beyond Stacy writing about it taking a "minute" to work everything out, we have seen absolutely ZERO response from anyone at Rendo. They clearly don't give a damn about how we feel.

I'm done with it - I'll stick around because of the friends I've made here, but I'll likely be posting a lot less here and more at DA and other places.

Thanks so much for your concern, Rendo...

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage

Apparently Stacy posted the above as I was writing mine....

We'll see how it goes... Hopefully, they've actually listened...

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage

Well, the formatting is still totally messed up at the browser size I use. Designing a page so it will work at varying sizes is fairly fundamental, so this seems like a very basic bug (or complete design cock-up) that hasn't been squashed yet.

Now, i have horizontal escalator on galeries :((((

WHY?

I really hate it.  Not just the look.  I think sitting with it through the weekend is a bad idea too.  Came here to make a purchase and do downloads (typically and hour and a half or more of sitting here) not sure I want to now as this really hurts my eyes - and it keeps running scripts that are crashing Internet Explorer. 

 

Course... could be worse - could make the purchases and spend the next five months unable to download being told "it's not our end it's yours" I suppose.

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The toned down masthead certainly helps, looking forward to what tomorrow brings.
Is anything to be done regarding the lengthy scrolling?
I don't use a tablet on rendo either.

I thought it might be helpful for the team to see what I'm seeing on a 24"  

Well, the broken formatting at less than full screen width of the 'What's hot today' column on the right has now been fixed. The broken formatting on the My Account Item List has not.

Still far too much scrolling on an item's page to get to the details. And I still want a click path back from an item's page to the vendor's gallery e.g. via the vendor's member page as previously available.

I find it hard to believe that such a broken website change was rolled out for public view - and right before a weekend too. Doesn't anyone actually test websites before unleashing them anymore? Makes Renderosity look like some amateur hour, not a serious, professional business.

Well, at least most of the color contrast issue was fixed.

Next target:  The sample image links below the main top image.  Some of them do appear to be arranged horizontally, but there were others that appeared vertically, and when I hovered over those images, they disappeared.  Fortunately, the links themselves were still there, but don't ask me to remember what it was I saw when I clicked on the spot where the image once was.

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For me still too much white, stamps too small, too much wasted space in details. It'l like some one took their tumblr page and used it for the store. Even K-Mart looks better.

I agree with the too much scrolling on the Vendor's item pages.  I've been perusing the store and it seems to be alot of scrolling to get all the details.  I hope the blue goes away for something more neutral, a cool grey for instance?  Just tossing my 2 cents in here. 

I do think the top banner looks much better with the slightly toned down, not so bright white.

What is really bothering me, and those of us who write stories, is the terribly tiny text entry boxes. Why did Renderosity do this? It makes it so hard to type in any decent comments and makes story telling a nightmare. We have all that empty gray space to the right of the boxes. Why? Is this for iphones?

Some people say there is a little gray triangle on lower right corner but I have both Vista and Explorer 8 and Windows 7 and Explorer 9 and I have no such triangle to open up the boxes.

Please, please fix this.

Goldie hit it right on the nose and this was the subject of a letter I wrote to Admin. This web site is apparently being developed by people with just very basic web page design skills. They are clearly in over their heads and this is shocking from a company that serves the digital graphics arts community. You would expect them to hire the best and not thier half wit brother in law who has a first year course in web design.

What appals me is that this was unleashed on us as such. It clearly was at no more than a beta level test phase... at least by the standards of the people who employ me.

brew, it looks like the above, if drag corner enabled.  click on img for full size.

below is test of img width func.

At least some of us are getting a good laugh out of all this....

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2416201

:-D

Gotta agree with Roxy.... When I do an update to my website (and I need to...) I check it with IE, Firefox, and Chrome to make sure everything works right - BEFORE it goes live.. And I don't even have half a wit OR a first year course in web design! LOL!

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage

I'm not getting that 'drag corner' either - at least not with IE... I'll have a look with Firefox & Chrome...

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Nancy:

Yes, I know, thank you. I have that in forum comments and in site mail. But I do not have the corner box for expanded comments on images nor for uploading comments to my own image.

Why it shows up for some areas but not others.... that is the mystery to me.

 

Quote - When I do an update to my website (and I need to...) I check it with IE, Firefox, and Chrome to make sure everything works right - BEFORE it goes live.. And I don't even have half a wit OR a first year course in web design! LOL!

you do realize that there are codes to determine what browser the guest is using, right?  the code can direct the user to the correct CSS for their browser...i used TopStyle to create my CSS...been a long time since i designed a site, but would imagine there's tons of stuff out there to help with the browser specific differences and how to deal with them.

Thanks, Goldie - I'll look into TopStyle... My own site is pretty simple - mainly since I don't have as much time to play with it as I used to... :-D

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Quote - you do realize that there are codes to determine what browser the guest is using, right?  the code can direct the user to the correct CSS for their browser...i used TopStyle to create my CSS...been a long time since i designed a site, but would imagine there's tons of stuff out there to help with the browser specific differences and how to deal with them.

User agent strings lie and require consistant updating since Chrome and Firefox are on a six week release timeline.  It'd be a bad decision to do that.

Instead, use JavaScript to identify featuresn, and use the results of the true / false tests to determine what events to attach and / or how to display various things.  

Use of media queries correctly would allow you to design for various display breakpoints.  It seems that the current theme in use is almost entirely percentage based measurements, which is why the layout breaks when you are inbetween commonly used sizes.

There is a difference between a Responsive layout and a fully fluid one, and some designs (like this site) do not work well in a fully fluid state.

 

Quote - I'm not getting that 'drag corner' either - at least not with IE... I'll have a look with Firefox & Chrome...

 

There are several sections of the site which are simply blank in Firefox and Chrome (Social Media in the side bar for example).   It does not appear any cross client testing was done.

Quote - G oldie hit it right on the nose and this was the subject of a letter I wrote to Admin. This web site is apparently being developed by people with just very basic web page design skills. They are clearly in over their heads and this is shocking from a company that serves the digital graphics arts community. You would expect them to hire the best and not thier half wit brother in law who has a first year course in web design.

What appals me is that this was unleashed on us as such. It clearly was at no more than a beta level test phase... at least by the standards of the people who employ me

There is a difference in design and development.  I don't know if the same people are doing both.  

Simply from what I have observed of how the site works, at least someone would need to be fimilar at least in the following from a development standpoint (this is what I do for a living for a much larger company).

Front End

• HTML
• CSS
• JavaScript
• Cross Browser Differences
• Reponsive Design

Back End

• PHP
• Apache
• Linux / UNIX
• MySQL
• Database Design
• Server configuration.
• Sessions and / or cookies

If they really wanted to make the site work well, they'd also have to be at least slightly fimilar with:

• Server Level Caching
• Content Delivery Systems
• Client Side Caching
• Software Design
• How Clients work (in relation to how the client downloads content and what blocks what)
• Page Rendering in General
• Site Analysis

From a front end viewpoint, a designer should at least be knowledgable about:

• Color Theory
• Desktop Design
• Mobile Design
• Responsive Layouts
• HTML
• CSS
• Usability
• User Experience

It's a pretty large range of skills required to really make a site like this work.  Not everyone can do it, and I didn't even touch on coding and QA practices such as automated testing, unit testing, regression testing, beta testing, and so on.

 

Wow - I was shocked at the 'new look' for the site.  Really? Guys, I loved the site before.  The site looked great.  Now... it's really awful.  It's like Daz revisited.  Honestly... why did you mess up a great looking site?  I am really perplexed.  Hate the white.  Looks like something out of a do it yourself kit.  And now the site takes longer to load content.  What's up with that?

people are compaling about the small text boxes for comments .

in firefox i can drag the arrow below and expand the box.but this is not working in IE.check please

another old time glitch is when i want to go to a members wishlist i click his homepage,wishlist,  with the click i get brought back to homepage, i have to click store ,

tells me member has no store and then displays the wishlist too many clicks for one operation.

it should link directly to wishlist logically No??lol

Well this is the look that I get on my 23" screen

 

Wayyy too much white space against the now somewhat pointless background colour (running my own custom CSS obviously)

 

 

 

How this can be called an improvement I have no idea... Bring back Rendo's look from when we had the firebird-brush painting logo IMO

 

cheers

Sean

Quote - Well this is the look that I get on my 23" screen

 

Wayyy too much white space against the now somewhat pointless background colour (running my own custom CSS obviously)

 

 

 

How this can be called an improvement I have no idea... Bring back Rendo's look from when we had the firebird-brush painting logo IMO

 

cheers

Sean

 

looks good  though with your own css.i agree with the too much white space.

The feature store arrows are working...some-what, if I click on the arrows, nothing happens. But with I take my mouse down to the bar below it and to the right, it works.

 

I know I'm one of the many that has complained aout your new look. You have a right to change your look. But it was done poorly, by people that don't look like they have even finish their first year in web-design.

Your old look, looked like it was custom made to the site, this new look, seems to have come out of 'Web Design for Dummies' Go back to your old style until your designers get their act together and made a design that looks custom, not like a Tumblr page.

Quote - Apparently Stacy posted the above as I was writing mine....

We'll see how it goes... Hopefully, they've actually listened...

 

on the warpath bro??give it a few days. sound strange form the Doc, the man that dont even knows how "patience"is written lol

I have a couple questions for Stacy (or another administrator).

Is this layout is a temporary one... a transition state between the old and a new improved look?

Will the big white header be filled with some background / pattern?

In this case... I agree with my friend Renecyberdoc.

Lets give to the programmers and designers the time they need to fix all.

No hurry. Two days or a week doesn't make a big difference.

Or it will stay this way?

In this case...  the site looks too plain and anonymous... and in my honest opinion lacks style and originality.

This layout can be acceptable for an amateurish blog on Tumblr or a car seller... but its not the best choice for an artistic community. 

Thanks in advance.

Mike.

how many users accessing new site via android or iOS padds?   1% of our users may need 64-GB 8-core desktops to do renders in maya, max or poser, but what about other 99% who come here to download the pix?

For sites that I have data on (but am not allowed to share) we have seen more than a 20% rise in mobile traffic in the past year and talking with some outside vendors, we expect that to hit around 50% by year end.

Making the site mobile friendly is a good business decision, if you do it properly.

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You guys know me from around the forums. You know I'm not a corporate puppet and I don't toe the line.

Just wanted to ask all of us to give this change a couple of weeks before starting to scream TOO loud.

I'm sure a LOT of you remember how things were at that other site.They were supposed to be down for 2 days, that stretched out to almost a week. Then the forums didn't work and the site was almost completely unusable. I'm not even going to mention the security problems (the site kept telling me "Hello, John Baker", but my name is NOT John Baker). Even now, nearly 9 months later, we are STILL  having problems (today many people can't put things in the cart).

I'm sure you remember how when the forums at the other site came back, posts that were even slightly critical of the "upgrade" were ripped down without care. If you didn't know better, you would think that everyone loved the new site. Some people here have had posts removed, but it still is nowhere near as pervasive as entire threads being disappeared.

So, yeah, the site looks bad. It's too bright. Some things are too big. Most of the problems being mentioned are valid. STILL this site works better than that other site and this upgrade is not even a week old.

Let's keep reporting problems to thread set up for that and not threaten to leave until the techs have a fair chance to bring the site up to snuff.

They've been playing straight with us, so let's give them a few weeks. I think they'll rise to the occassion.

Thanks

While I agree they have been fairly forthcoming since release, I disagree on the time table, mostly because I disagree with the fact that it was released in such a state to begin with.

Given the abundance of cross browser issues, I can only surmise that cross client testing wasn't done.   Given some of the color issues (dark text on dark background) leads me to believe next to no QA was done prior to launch.

Since the site had clear functional issues, most businesses would have 'rolled back' to a previous version of the code base.  That however assumes that version control is in use, which based on the above several points I am starting to think is not the case.

As a professional web developer, I do not feel this was up to professional standards.  It would be similar, in fact to any one of the artists here releasing an product half complete, and telling buyers to 'wait while I finish it'.   This is a Production site for a business which only makes money over the web.  If the site is unusable it impacts sales, and since it's the artists respective stores which are selling product, that directly impacts every vendor here.

While staged delivery is a software methodology often used, each phase is typically considered complete prior to deployment.  This deployment was simply not done anywhere near a professional level, and unfortunately it's the vendors who are suffering the fallout.

As much as I would like to see things in the same way as tsarist, and that is a fair post, I have to agree with Fenier, this is a commercial site and changes of this kind should not end up with the visitors hating it. 

I hardly use the "other" site these days as I lost confidence in there abilty to offer me a good shopping experience, and like tsarist I experenced the same dual identity issue which does not promote a secure enviroment to spend your cash.

I was looking at the renderosity logo in the white bar and thought it was rather fugly rendered. Turns out it's a 2.5 megapixel image (3392*788) scaled down with CSS to 288px.

 

Also when previewing a reply the NULL image is still inserted.

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Quote - So, yeah, the site looks bad. It's too bright. Some things are too big. Most of the problems being mentioned are valid. STILL this site works better than that other site and this upgrade is not even a week old.

It also looks a whole lot like that "other site."

When "the other site" is mentioned my stomach goes into spasms. Why do I think of an Octopus and its long tentacles? Rendo has always had a unique look and a fairly stable site. Why this sudden similarity with this "other site"? Why would they copy such a disaster? Am I becoming paranoid and imagin a scenario that doesn't exist?

For the moment I have lost my home. Rendo was my home away from home and I think this has left me slightly disturbed. My eyes are tired and sore and my fingers hurt from all the scrolling. Still, I am willing to give it another month before I start panicking.

Question is: where would I go from here?

Runtime, the site looks great, like it was made for them. Rendo, looks like...a tumblr page.

Quote - Runtime, the site looks great, like it was made for them. Rendo, looks like...a tumblr page.

I do shop at RDNA and I love the site. They are the last of the big content providers who offer a relaxed browsing experience. They have products I can't find anywhere else - so I buy and enjoy them.

But, there is a lot at Rendo as well that I can't find anywhere else. They have some excellent artists I would really miss like, Danie and Marforno. Sorry, I can't name them all. Some sell at "the other site", but there I shop no more.I still have a few months to go with my Prime Membership and maybe, just maybe things will sort themselves out. Hopefully for the better.

I tried giving the new look some time and I sorry to say I just don't like it.

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this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

 

That is far better than the mess they have now.

Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

 

I totally agree, dump this rubbish now and stop wasting money on a non starter..

Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

 

Yeah, I loved that design.  Was elegant, easy on the eyes, and made me want to browse the store and galleries endlessly.

Quote - > Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

 

Yeah, I loved that design.  Was elegant, easy on the eyes, and made me want to browse the store and galleries endlessly.

 

And I for one don't know why they don't or refuse to go back to that design. It's the best one they have had.

Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

Yes! Renderosity in 2008-2009-2010 looked great!

That layout was very functional and the style was elegant; I loved it! Other sites (DeviantArt, for instance) can make little tweaks once in a while... but the interface and the color scheme never changed too dramatically...

DeviantArt through the years

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.deviantart.com/

Renderosity through the years

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.renderosity.com/ 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

 

Yes I remember that, the site had a unique flavour all of it's own which made it stand out from the crowd..

But what I can not fathom is this stubborness of the crew running this site, no matter the amount of criticism that they have gotten over these changes (and there has been a lot of it) they are still pushing forward with these changes.

And if it is still being worked on why not make sure all the changes have been completed instead of this what I can tell is a hap hazard approach to its implementation.

The "Other Site" as folks are what I gather calling Daz's site at least they from what can tell and or remember had their site pretty much complete and ready to go (apart from a few hiccups here and there).

In the end Rendo will just become like every thing else and have no uniqueness it will lose what made it stand out from the crowd but I think it is already too late.

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Quote - > Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

The "Other Site" as folks are what I gather calling Daz's site at least they from what can tell and or remember had their site pretty much complete and ready to go (apart from a few hiccups here and there).

In the end Rendo will just become like every thing else and have no uniqueness it will lose what made it stand out from the crowd but I think it is already too late.

To be fair to Daz, their website rollout was an unmitigated disaster.  They might have had the "look" they desired (and apparently, the one Renderosity desired, too) but their website ceased to function for nearly a month, and they are still experiencing "hiccups" to this day.

Quote: "this was the best design, IMHO....remember?"

 

I have not had the opportunity to know this design, but it was much better quality than that which is imposed on us for several days. I do not understand why it was abandoned.

Quote - The "Other Site" as folks are what I gather calling Daz's site at least they from what can tell and or remember had their site pretty much complete and ready to go (apart from a few hiccups here and there).

In the end Rendo will just become like every thing else and have no uniqueness it will lose what made it stand out from the crowd but I think it is already too late.

 

A few hiccups? It was a total disaster!!!  I only shop there if I am desperate for an item these days, and I mean desperate.

And if Rendo are not careful they to will share the same fate....

Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

 

that look was nice :) i MISS it!!!!! :( so i ask again, RENEROSITY! please take the old look back or smthing similar??? :( :( :( th grey is not good........ not saying anymore i might just delete my artist page until its all fixed......... i am no mad , i am just sad

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - this was the best design, IMHO....remember?

 

Yeah, I loved that design.  Was elegant, easy on the eyes, and made me want to browse the store and galleries endlessly.

 

And I for one don't know why they don't or refuse to go back to that design. It's the best one they have had.

 

Arrogance and Fear

To go back would mean that they would have to admit that they made a mistake.  They would rather (like DAZ) ride the plan down in flames rather than admit that they have made a mistake

That older design was a much better one that what they have had since then.

Quote - I'm sure a LOT of you remember how things were at that other site.They were supposed to be down for 2 days, that stretched out to almost a week. Then the forums didn't work and the site was almost completely unusable. I'm not even going to mention the security problems (the site kept telling me "Hello, John Baker", but my name is NOT John Baker). Even now, nearly 9 months later, we are STILL  having problems (today many people can't put things in the cart).

I'm sure you remember how when the forums at the other site came back, posts that were even slightly critical of the "upgrade" were ripped down without care. If you didn't know better, you would think that everyone loved the new site. Some people here have had posts removed, but it still is nowhere near as pervasive as entire threads being disappeared.

Yes - I remember that "Other" site all too well.  All of the above mentioned is what led to a confrontation between myself and that site's corporate pupeteers because I was tired of hearing "it's only you having troubles, just be patient and downloads will return" for five months and resulted in them locking my 10 year order history and accounts so I can no longer even access or download products or upgrades to products I paid for.  Such a wonderful, user friendly site that puts customers first :P

Wish I could say otherwise, but not at all surprised to hear they are still having the same issues 9 months later.  In the end, it's all the PA's I Supported and would still support there that lose out too.

With that said, I agree, while the issues here appear mainly cosmetic from my end (and I am using one of the browsers that other site had so many problems with and not seeing a lot of the other errors myself here), those bright headers and bright side pannels are really painful on the eyes.   Though I did make a recent purchase, had no problems adding to the cart, or checking out, or (and this is the big one) downloading my purchases, some of the images on the product pages are missing and I am getting a lot of those red 'X's in their place.  I do hope the Admins and staff will take the critique of the color scheme and layout a little more seriously this time than last time - as it is really painful to look at.  It does make it difficult to shop easily.

At least the wishlists still work, and the forums are up - that's always a plus.

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Quote - To be fair to Daz, their website rollout was an unmitigated disaster.  They might have had the "look" they desired (and apparently, the one Renderosity desired, too) but their website ceased to function for nearly a month, and they are still experiencing "hiccups" to this day.

I must have been lucky I never had too many problems with "That site".  

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All I can say, is that I woke up this morning, decided to take a quick look at Rendo to see if its better. And right away I was impressed. Pictures are larger, better to the eyes, looks more professional. Then I realized that I was on DAZ, if Redo want to keep doing what their doing, they just need to go to DAZ for tips I guess.

Ok, so now the background of the whole page is a medium gray, and the headers and side panels are still very bright and it looks even worse...

Honestly, making everything on the bage a shade brighter is not a fix.  Do they still teach color theory as part of commercial arts and design anymore?

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Nothing is brighter, its actually all been tone down this afternoon.. Be sure you do a hard refresh to see all the changes as even the side panel has been toned down to a greyish as well as the menu bar. Definitely didn't make anything brighter lol.. We've gotten a lot of positive feedback after these changes so hopefully we are on our way to a good compromise that will make the majority feel better.  We still have lots more to do so please note this entire process across all modules to the finished stage will take time.

Almost better, guys.  Now, another nit I need to pick:  Where it says "Daily Deals", that orange lettering is barely readable against that background (and a bit painful).  Let's try a different color instead.  Also, could you tell me why this is not backwards compatible with previous browser versions?  AOL's internal browser is based on an older version of IE.

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We aren't done yet so I will pass on your feedback Raplerman, Thanks!!

Quote - Nothing is brighter, its actually all been tone down this afternoon...

Yes, the background is brighter.  It went from a much darker neutral blue to this ugly and brighter medium gray color.

While the side panels look better, the banner at the top does not appear to have been toned down at all (if it has the color shift is so minor as to be nearly imperceptable on this monitor).

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Personally I'm much more annoyed by all the still-broken formatting, like the Related Products section at the bottom of the product pages, and the whole My Account Item List, neither of which adapt to the user's browser window width.

I still find it impossible to imagine what kind of process led to this site change happening as it did. Was there absolutely no testing, even to see the obviously broken things I saw on the first page of the new site I loaded within the first few seconds? Or was it tested, many of the broken items seen, but then just a shrug and 'oh we'll release it with all this obviously broken design and coding anyway'? I don't even know which of those is worse and gives a worse impression of the company. Either is incompetence and a callous disregard of cusromers and merchants.

Quote - Ok, so now the background of the whole page is a medium gray, and the headers and side panels are still very bright and it looks even worse...

Honestly, making everything on the bage a shade brighter is not a fix.  Do they still teach color theory as part of commercial arts and design anymore?

I just got a newsletter from the site today, and it looked MUCH better than the website itself does. 

The grey boxes (instead of garish white) are definitely a step in a better direction.  The banner up top needs to tone down to about that level, too!

Quote - Personally I'm much more annoyed by all the still-broken formatting, like the Related Products section at the bottom of the product pages, and the whole My Account Item List, neither of which adapt to the user's browser window width.

I dunno if it's even possible to adapt to a widescreen monitor.  :unsure:

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it's not bad now IMVHO.  one understands that text size must increase for mobile users.

There are still problems with some pages.
I am using firefox, and when I landed, or that I'm on "who's online" writing is gray to dark. Can not read what is written in these conditions: (

And names of artists are still "eaten" (letters y, j, g...) on galleries.

yes we are aware of these types of issues with the text caty but we have lots of seperate modules throughout the site and we will be working on each one of them to get them all readable.. It's gonna take a minute but we will get there:)

 

Thanks!

I really, really don't like this drab grey color. It's literally making me feel sick to my stomach. I don't mean to be a jerk about it; I haven't said anything until now, but when I checked the site today and saw all this grey and black and yellow, I couldn't hold back anymore... I just don't think that it's attractive at all, especially for an art site.

I just wanted to be sure that these writings were not forgotten Stacy. ;)

Otherwise, the gray suits me better already. But the 'banners' at the top and bottom make me feel (just feel) to be endless sides since they have no frames lol

I agree caty:)  we'll look into something with those top banners I think

Thank you for writings colors :)))

I am wondering am I coming to and logging into Rendo or Daz?  If not for the title and what not I thought I was at their site.  Where Rendo now has White top and bottom with grey middle, theirs is grey top and bottom with white in the middle..

All I can say is all that made Rendorosity special and stand out from the other online content stores is now dead and buried.

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Hate to sound like a broken record, but can you please fix the tiny text entry boxes? They are incredibly frustrating to use for those of us who try to give meaningful commentary to the artists who support this site and they are a total nightmare for those of us telling stories or uploading poems. I promise that I will shut up if you fix this issue!

I do sincerely appreciate the fixes you have made in response to user critiques but there has been no mention of any concern from management about the text entry problems.

Brew, as I've stated we haven't gotten to all areas of the site and it will take some time. We have noted this feedback given and will get to those areas as soon as possible.

 

Thanks

Hey Brew, I forgot to add that in the meantime you can click the right corner of the box and pull it out bigger. This I know is not ideal but until we get to that, just wanted you to know that in case it helps in the meantime

I've tried that but it only works for firefox. Not work for IE

Stacey, message got truncated on my ipad. no little box shows up in IE 9 for comments or upload of text. Only shows up in forum and sitemail. 

 

did somebody already post this?

I have to say this all turned out better than I thought it would.  I still like the soft blue color of 2 incarnations past, but this grey here is much better than the last version was by far.

I was downloading some items from my account page, and the white background there on the item list is a very blinding white.  Really hurts the eyes.  Could you put that on a list of things to tone down for the future?

I didn't think you could make the site harder to read but you've succeeded brilliantly. Why not go to white on white and make it completely impossible?  Reminds me why I don't spend much time here anymore. Good job.

Stacy,

I noticed at work, using a version of explorer that's a few years old, and a 16 or 17 inch monitor that the page extends off the right side and the floating featured programs list is pushed over on top of the main body portion of the page instead of being fixed to the right.

 

 

why grey? :O :( so depressing now... im mostly on chat..... not want to be here much now :( i stilll misss the older looks............ sad

I switched from IE8 to Chrome - as suggested. Everything lines up and text no longer extends into neighbouring boxes.

The sad thing with Chrome is Readme files. In Chrome it is not possible to open a text file. I can't live without the Eeadme files. I have to constantly switch back and forth between IE and Chrome. This is not a productive way to shop.

Any suggestions? Can FF open text files? I never used this Browser. Which version would work best for the state Renderosity is in? 

Chrome opens text files without a problem here. Any browser should be able to do it.

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This is very strange. In Chrome one can only Save a text file and not view it. Even Chrome admits that it is not possible andthat  they are working on it.I have researched the problem and at the moment there is no solution to it. You wil find post after post dealing with this problem. There is no plug-in available either.

 

Since I downloaded the latest version of Chrome I don't see how it is possible for you to see a text file without downloading it. There is only this one possibility available when you click on a Readme file. At the moment only pdf is supported (according to Chrome).

I don't know what to say...

I put op a readme.txt file on my own site. Chrome displays it just fine. My chrome is up-2-date according to the helpscreen (version 25.0.1364.152 m)

What is a friend? A single soul dwelling in two bodies. - Aristotle
-= Glass Eye Photography =- -= My Rendo Gallery =-

You should be able to download and open in one step, at least you can with Firefox - after all you have to download it to view it in IE, too.

This is the same version I have downloaded. I looked through the Settings to find  where I can create a file associaten. I couldn't find anything.

Have you tried to open a Renderosity Readme file?

Quote - You should be able to download and open in one step, at least you can with Firefox - after all you have to download it to view it in IE, too.

 

In IE I click on it and it opens. I don't have to download anything. It is instant.

I don't want to download a Readme file. What would be the purpose. I am interested in a product and would like to quickly look at the Readme. With IE it was quick and simple. 

Allright, I did some digging. I clicked on a readme file of one of the products. Chrome indeed downloads the file instead of directly opening it. So does Firefox So I dug a little deeper.

It seems renderosity doesn't serve it's mime-types correctly. Mime-types tell the browser what type of file it is. When serving the readme.txt file the header tells the browser its:

Content-Type:·application/octet-stream

By default a browser doesn't show the contents of that because it's not text (or html). At least according to that header. What it should be is:

Content-Type:·text/plain

That tells the browser it's just plain text which can be displayed accordingly. Rendo needs to modify the download script so it serves the right mime-type. I suspect the current script just serves every dowload with the same header.

IE is a bit odd in this as it does display the text, but it shouldn't do that. So it's more like a bug in IE that it does.

On a side note. It appears Rendo is running apache 2.0.52. That's very old (over 8 years). That need to be upgraded ASAP because it has plenty of vulnerabilities.

What is a friend? A single soul dwelling in two bodies. - Aristotle
-= Glass Eye Photography =- -= My Rendo Gallery =-

Quote - This is very strange. In Chrome one can only Save a text file and not view it. Even Chrome admits that it is not possible andthat  they are working on it.I have researched the problem and at the moment there is no solution to it. You wil find post after post dealing with this problem. There is no plug-in available either.

 

Since I downloaded the latest version of Chrome I don't see how it is possible for you to see a text file without downloading it. There is only this one possibility available when you click on a Readme file. At the moment only pdf is supported (according to Chrome).

Yes in FF, you can opt to just view it rather than download & save it. ;)

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Quote - > Quote - This is very strange. In Chrome one can only Save a text file and not view it. Even Chrome admits that it is not possible andthat  they are working on it.I have researched the problem and at the moment there is no solution to it. You wil find post after post dealing with this problem. There is no plug-in available either.

 

Since I downloaded the latest version of Chrome I don't see how it is possible for you to see a text file without downloading it. There is only this one possibility available when you click on a Readme file. At the moment only pdf is supported (according to Chrome).

Yes in FF, you can opt to just view it rather than download & save it. ;)

Thank you again Sabby. I am not happy with Chrome and I will try FF. Do the pages display correctly in FF? Otherwise I just go back to IE. 

Hi 3DGuy,

Thank you for everything you have done. Chrome says in their Forums that the problem is on their side and they have to make the changes. I have no deep knowledge of the protocols, headers, etc. I just read the Forums and see what the users and Chrome have to say.

I will give FF a try. From what I have read it is a more advanced Browser and has a larger user base.

What I discovered yesterday is that after the download one can view the text file in the Browser by clicking on Download. It is still necessary to go to the Directory and do a manual clean-up of the garbage collected.

i still hate the dull,grey look....... really depressing.. i will be removing my art, one by one and closing up i thinks :(im so sorry folks!!! but thr old looks need to b backk... anywho i spose alt are happy with the dull greys, might b back soon, one day

Can we PLEASE fix the comment box for the Gallery?

and no, giving me the potentially functional option to make the box wider is NOT the solution.  That is NOT my job in the first place, and in the second, it does NOT resolve the issue that the text box is too tall to begin with.

This whole experiment seems very amatureish!   Surely that's not the message Renderosity wants to convey!

;>

Andy!

O.k> I get the impression the site is a work in progress.

but like many things in the digital world lately, I must ask;

why was the change NECESSARY?

The old site worked quite well.

Searches reveal long text lists; I assume that's going to go back to thumbnails of the products.  Who has time to search lists? NOT ME.

(Here's a clue for you; I hate Windows 8 !!!!  Win 7 ran beautifully...but NOOO,

those egotistical boneheads had to go and TINKER.  "Look what WE did!")

This is a commercial website.  could you not do your testing elsewhere?

This is my impression and don't take it personally...but I've just given up searching fo r product I wanted. 

M

this is just SAD.... seems they don't care one whit about the majority of their users...only about "money" and while the old site had up to 3000+ visitors, this site is now so darn SLOW the minute it hits 2000....and I would bet money (!) that there are much fewer sales now... I am saving a ton of money monthly now!! I used to spend at least $100...more times up to $200+ ... now it's ONLY if something comes along I 'have' to have... so maybe spending $25 a month if that...

I hope the suits that seem to only want to "save face" and refuse to "go back" to the beautiful, pleasureable look are enjoying their "increased" (ya right) sales!

It's so sad that the dedicated family of FRIENDS who called this home have to put up with this crap. Pages turn white on me, forum postings stretch wide under the side sales vertical boxes... and the place just looks UGLY.

What a waste.

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!