What happend here.. is this DAZ site 1.5 ...

Where did the rendo feel go ..

BAH BAH ... look a like ..DONT LIKE IT not for one bit ..

 

Chris

HERE are my FREEBEE's

 

A horrible colour

Old in the head-New to learning.

This new look does suck.

They aren't finished as with most things, it takes a minute to tweak and modify everything so please be patient while the techs work through this

Stacey ..please help me ..the colors hurt my eyes and i need them eyes ..

make the blue pain go .....

 

Help me Stacey ..your my only hope :}

 

 

Chris 

BAR-CODE

 

HERE are my FREEBEE's

 

It's not just the color scheme that's a problem, it actually seems flawed.  The tabs you can hover over were much more useful and just felt like faster navigation over.  To give credit where credit is due, the larger thumbnails at the Marketplace page is good but otherwise the whole thing just feels like a step backwards in the attempt to make things "new".

I have to admit I like that the menu does not appear just by hovering over the title of it.  That always anoys me.  I much prefer clicking on the menu if I want to see it.

hope the colours change!!!! :/

Its not the errors or bugs that it still has .. it looks nothing like Rendo anymore.

It actualy look like a DAZ ripoff and the feel it had as a Renderosity site is gone..

Pitty ..  

HERE are my FREEBEE's

 

i miss the old layout!!!!!!!!!!!!and i liked the rendo logo too!!!!!! ......... anyway

This new look hurts my eyes AND brain. PLEASE make it stop!!!

I don't understand what compels certain sites to constantly change their "look."  I can understand refreshing a "look"  if the site deals with site design/web graphics, but if an enterprise is just selling merchandise such as Renderosity does, this whole remake just doesn't compute for me. Folks should remember that often the site design is a trademark of sorts--an identity.  Why would an enterprise want to look like their competitors?  This new site design only lumps Rosity in with RDNA and DAZ...there is very little now that is distinctive.  Really a shame.

My favorite Rosity design was 2 iterations back.  Looked great and worked well.  Why change if those criteria for a site are met?

This is epically bad...

Can't wait to see it when it's...done? 

Sigh...

 

The white hurts my eyes too. Please don't make it white. :(

I dont mind the white but please change the blue to a dark grey or something neutral.

My Renderosity Store

Quote - Stacey ..please help me ..the colors hurt my eyes and i need them eyes ..

make the blue pain go .....

 

Help me Stacey ..your my only hope :}

 

 

Chris 

BAR-CODE

 I ditto that...the colors hurts me eyes too..

My thoughts excactly, for a moment I thought I typed in the wrong url...... I do hope we can choose a color scheme or at least the white birghtness will be taken care off. For those of us with eye problems, chronic headaches, brain issues and so on, this is not a happy place anymore.

 

But I like the improvements otherwise, some of it really makes sense and was long overdue.... in that department well done Rendo, but the colors get a thumb down for sure.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk

aww come on!! leave it alone - if it is not broken, don't fix it!!! hate hate hate the new look!!!

"it take a minute to tweak, be patient"... Stacey, we don't want the new look, period..why does this keep happening? are the programmers bored?

 

 

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

gt the oldd look back pls! :((((

Oh No! Not Rendo too!
Between the grey and white mastheads I've lost a quarter of my page,well almost;)

I love the old rendo, after a day of working on the computer, I could come here, relax, browse and buy products.  
By the end of the day, these colours will make my eyes feel like they're bleeding.

 

Changing Rendo is like pulling down a grand old emporium everyone knows their way around and loves:(

If you use Firefox, you can download 'Color That Site' & make it any way you like. No problems. ")

I'm Getting old.
My wings are cold.
I think I'll go sit on the sun.
Savage Dragon
"Chronicles of the Dragon Queen"

Quote - If you use Firefox, you can download 'Color That Site' & make it any way you like. No problems. ")

 

Yeah, but we shouldn't have to add add-ons to our browser to make up for the incompetence of a site's web designers.

And yes, the color combinations that are being used is incompetence, pure and simple.

Hate the color scheme as well gives me headaches from the glare

Quote - aww come on!! leave it alone - if it is not broken, don't fix it!!! hate hate hate the new look!!!

"it take a minute to tweak, be patient"... Stacey, we don't want the new look, period..why does this keep happening? are the programmers bored?

My sentiments exactly. I'm still in shock.

Last time, it was (and still is) the awful shade of blue. Now this. It hurts! Make it go away!

Quote - I don't understand what compels certain sites to constantly change their "look."  I can understand refreshing a "look"  if the site deals with site design/web graphics, but if an enterprise is just selling merchandise such as Renderosity does, this whole remake just doesn't compute for me. Folks should remember that often the site design is a trademark of sorts--an identity.  Why would an enterprise want to look like their competitors?  This new site design only lumps Rosity in with RDNA and DAZ...there is very little now that is distinctive.  Really a shame.

My favorite Rosity design was 2 iterations back.  Looked great and worked well.  Why change if those criteria for a site are met?

I agree. My favourite Rendo design was 2 iterations ago. It looked great and worked well.

You guys had a better site than your competitors even with the last version.

I thought I had accidentally clicked onto the Daz site (I do that sometimes because they are right together in the bookmarks).

Well, Stacey says its a work in progress, so I'll have faith in the techs at Rendo.

I will give a few Kudos to the techs. The site STILL works. I can still find things and navigate. It doesn't look right, but I can shop, so thanks.

Quote - > Quote - If you use Firefox, you can download 'Color That Site' & make it any way you like. No problems. ")

 

Yeah, but we shouldn't have to add add-ons to our browser to make up for the incompetence of a site's web designers.

And yes, the color combinations that are being used is incompetence, pure and simple.

yes, what you say is true, but since there are add-ons for firefox that can handle this design problem, why not use it?  IIRC, the last time--when that horrific blue was the issue, we were, more or less, told to get used to it--not exactly the response one wants to hear, especially since we, the customers, keep food on their tables.  hubris.

i have recolored the whole site to my satisfaction...certain things could look better, but i am satisfied, since, at the least, i don't have to look at those horrible white boxes over that shocking blue background.

I'm curious as to the reasons for this sudden and unexpected change, though the cynic in me doubts that we'll get any sort of real answer.

 

And for the "we're still working on things," has Renderosity not been paying attention to DAZ and their troublesome site update last year?

 

Seems to me like every time Renderosity changes something major in the site, we lose more useful functionality than they add. What will they excoriate next?

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If you're joking that's just cruel, but if you're being sarcastic, that's even worse.

This is horrible. 

 

I can't believe anybody would want to emulate Daz, but it would appear that's what's going on here.    Unbelievable!

This may just be me..

I work for a major retailer on the east coast, as a web developer.  Specfically, I do front end web design.

It strikes me as exceptionally odd that the following happened:

• Code launch middle of day
• Code launch not cross browser tested
• Code launch missing elements
• Code launch spanning an indefinate period of time 
• Hotfixes deployed into Production without testing

So I am really not sure I understand the "we're still working on things".   Seems rather... like a lack of formal process that should really be in place if you intend to keep code quality high and be able to deploy it

Quote - This may just be me..

I work for a major retailer on the east coast, as a web developer.  Specfically, I do front end web design.

It strikes me as exceptionally odd that the following happened:

• Code launch middle of day
• Code launch not cross browser tested
• Code launch missing elements
• Code launch spanning an indefinate period of time 
• Hotfixes deployed into Production without testing

So I am really not sure I understand the "we're still working on things".   Seems rather... like a lack of formal process that should really be in place if you intend to keep code quality high and be able to deploy it

no, it is not just you.  i agree with you 100%.  i designed and coded web sites back in the 90s when most people didn't know what html was.  i never put up a site without testing it fully before making it live.  as i go through this site, i have noted that so many obvious and easily fixed problems exist.  to expect the users of a site to find and report these glitches is unacceptable and unprofessional to say the least.    i simply don't know what the hurry was to make this particular iteration live.

Quote -   i simply don't know what the hurry was to make this particular iteration live.

Especially since it's so danged ugly!

I hate this new layout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd have to agree with everyone that said that it was two iterations ago that you had a good, solid site.

I do know one thing---if your intention was to drive people away from the store, GOOD JOB!! Keep up the good work! I went there tonight to go spend some money but the layout and the look wasn't a bit inspiring, so I walked away with my money intact, no new toys. It's not conducive to shopping and browsing. It's clashing and jarring. Makes me want to go somewhere else, which I think I will do right now.

CYA!!

Laura

Quote - They aren't finished as with most things, it takes a minute to tweak and modify everything so please be patient while the techs work through this

I sincerely hope more than a minute will be spent on "tweaking" the new "improvements."

Guess we'll just have to get used to it... Who listens to us, huh? :-P

"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage

Sorry... but honestly the old layout was a lot better.

This one is too bright and hurts my eyes. Any option available to customize the theme / colors?  

 

Well, I've come back this morning hoping to find that the horrible new site was just transitory and that the old aesthetic would be back once things settled down.

It seems not.

Some of my friends have been ripping on the Rendo=DAZ3D theme - hence the logo above.  It's not a compliment.  Seriously.

 

I don't post much, but ew, what happened to Renderosity?  This is not pleasant to look at and it feels, I don't know, barren?  Void of personality, perhaps.

Why the need for constant visual change when things work as is?

 

At the very least, give us the option for "classic look" or something like that, please?  With CSS today you can do that without forcing us users to resort to third-party solutions.  Please?

Quote -  

Some of my friends have been ripping on the Rendo=DAZ3D theme - hence the logo above.  It's not a compliment.  Seriously.

 

Seems like they're copying Daz right down to the "shooting themselves in the foot" part.

Only good thing is it's not my computer. I'll come back when you fix it.

I am generally better with change, change happens and you learn to adapt.  BUT, this is horrible.  The forum is cutting off text in some threads, the white is blinding (it does look like the DAZ site), and my wishlist is a confusing mess.  What happened to my favorite site?

I agree with GypsieAngel! I came here last night to buy stuff with prime coupon and the site was so disturbing that I gave up and wrote a couple of messages to staff in answer to their prime coupon that I wasn't going to spend money tonight.

   I left DAZ at least 6 months ago and now my favorite site has ripped off their amature design!

   Most distrubing is that you have removed the percentage amount of sales from each sales page.   Did you think people were buying things that were at higher savings and you want to conceal that from them?  Guess what?!!! Smart people try to save as much money as they can in these economic times.   Trying to 'trick' them into buying something won't work.  We have calculators and a miser will spend hours figuring which is best buy.:))

    Making your site more "User Friendly" should be in your best interest.  Making it look like a 3rd grader designed it puts you in the same category as designers of DAZ sites and programs. 

      DAZ use to have a great "user Friendly" program and site, then they got greedy and tried to compete with Poser and make their program a copy look, and changed their site to trick people into rebuying products they already had and make the promo thumbs look huge. 

     What they ended up with  was a program no one would pay for, a new Genesis character that most ignore, and a site design that has driven platinum members away from in droves.  they thought they would take the market over by storm and their site is dying.

     So, RR wants to get greedy and make the same mistakes!  Less coupons than before, none above 15%, and taking % off sales price to trick the idiots into buying more, and coming up with one of the worst site designs I have seen in ages!............Need I say more?

 

 I did get some lovely new toys from DAZ. One dress from Mada to die for. :) And new brushes by deviney. This is money I came here to spend but left with. I also got a notice that something in my wishlist was for sale. It was white lace--but on that white background. Seriously, I couldn't see it. Literally. So, that sale disappeared, too.

As a vendor here, I find it disturbing that you would drive business away from me and my store like this. Any vendor should be concerned. It wasn't a well thought out move. In case you haven't been paying attention, DAZ is suffering from their last change. And it's been months. Following in their footsteps might not have been the wisest choice...

Quote -    I left DAZ at least 6 months ago and now my favorite site has ripped off their amature design!

This, and more.  I too gave up on DAZ after the horrid changes to their store and things, I left PC too after many years, what with the awkward and restricting new system with the coupon.

 

Don't do the same errors, Rendo.  :(

I jsut went to DAZ to look at CS brushes and tried to buy some and it said they were 'out of stock' !!

Unbelievable! Daz site is still so screwed up you can't buy stuff. One of the many reasons I gave up membership and only look at the site once a month........like I will probably do at RR if this sited design keeps up. :|

Quote - I jsut went to DAZ to look at CS brushes and tried to buy some and it said they were 'out of stock' !!

Unbelievable! Daz site is still so screwed up you can't buy stuff. One of the many reasons I gave up membership and only look at the site once a month........like I will probably do at RR if this sited design keeps up. :|

That's just crazy... digital "out of stock"

They should get their polygon elves to restock their digital products then. You know, since it has to go through the interweb tubes...

I'm thinking of all the money these sites are going to save me. :D

But then get annoyed face when I think of all the money they're making me lose... >:-/

 

Stacey made a posting about the colors being worked at ..

So while they are working on it, can they fix the huge spaces between everything and the bigger then normal font .. and and ... 

C.

HERE are my FREEBEE's

 

Right, I can stop checking 3 times a day to see what's new and what I can now live without.  Saving $$

 I know it must hurt worse being a vendor, and waiting for it to get fixed...if ever.

I still like RDNA, so I can look there once a week to keep up.

Just a note in here that while we are open to your comments, feedback, etc bashing or attacking is not allowed as per our TOS so please be respectful and productive.

 

 

Regards

Stacey 

Quote - "---if your intention was to drive people away from the store, GOOD JOB!! "

I agree with Gypsyangel!

 

I dislike very much this new web site design "improvements". I really love the renderosity web before, and now it just remind me DAZ 3D permanent battle with their own web site...

Used to visit Rendo web site daily, and buy products often, now I do not like to suffer from non-professional web design and bugs... Will wait for next web update - still have hope for things will improve.

Stacey, you can delete my posts all you want, the design still sucks.

You are entitled to your opinion of course, but bashing or attacking others won't be tolerated. You are certainly allowed to express your opinion in a productive, tactful and mature way.

Quote - You are entitled to your opinion of course, but bashing or attacking others won't be tolerated. You are certainly allowed to express your opinion in a productive, tactful and mature way.

LMAO!!

Oh what a dastardly villain I are!

twizzles mustache

Attached Link: http://web.archive.org/web/20080306002933/http://www.renderosity.com/

this, i miss!!! was pleasant to look at too :D (hope the link works)

Attached Link: http://web.archive.org/web/20120103031105/http://www.renderosity.com/

> Quote - this, i miss!!! was pleasant to look at too :D (hope the link works)

 

n this!!!

Quote - this, i miss!!! was pleasant to look at too :D (hope the link works)

I wasn't fond of the Daz background gradient so much, but it was certainly better on the eyes color wise.

yep

Quote - this, i miss!!! was pleasant to look at too :D (hope the link works)

 

 

This one was stunning!  Love the colors, so easy on the eyes, love the way the thumbnails are done.

Quote - > Quote - You are entitled to your opinion of course, but bashing or attacking others won't be tolerated. You are certainly allowed to express your opinion in a productive, tactful and mature way.

LMAO!!

Oh what a dastardly villain I are!

twizzles mustache

 

LOL not sure "villain" is the word I would pick. I've seen my fair share of true "villains" and you have a long long long way to go :):) 

it was!!! :) pleeeaaseee renderosity!! bring one of them back!! if others miss  it too ofc :) or something similar :) the grey top bit is distracting........... :(''''

now, i love rendo, i buy stuff from time to time, and like all free things :) but.... aaanyway, enuff from me tonite :P

Nevertheless, the constant deleting of posts/reviews and even thumbnail nitpicking has really ticked me off to the point where I've deleted my gallery, and everything else. I am not spending any more money here. I'd ask for for a refund on my prime membership as well, but that would mean I'd have to spend the refund here. And please make sure I get no "We Miss You, have a discount" emails either. They are not welcome.

Quote - You are entitled to your opinion of course, but bashing or attacking others won't be tolerated. You are certainly allowed to express your opinion in a productive, tactful and mature way.

 

Stacy Dear, if you and the rest of the 'Rosity folks can't handle a little criticism, then perhaps dealing with the public isn't for you.

If you deal with the public, get used to brick bats being thrown your way.  It is the nature of the beast.

I agree.

It's not a matter of not being able to "handle" it at all but we have guidelines that must be followed and we are all adults here so it should be easy to express opinions without attacks or bashing. 

 

These threads need to be for productive feedback so we can move forward and the tos will be followed

 

Regards

Stacey

And madbat, that is a setting you control on your MY PROFILE page, you can set this to NO so as not to receive any promotional emails.

 

Regards

Stacey

Quote - LMAO!!

Oh what a dastardly villain I are!

twizzles mustache

Ha, ha! You make me wish these posts had a "like" button.

 

For the record, I dislike the new design too. The white section at the top is glaring and way too big. It makes me feel like another site hijacked renderosity, and I'm viewing the site in a bottom frame.

Seems to be a lot less people on RR site last two days than there usually are?? Is this because of the site design?

hello rendo team,

please come back to your old design. the most important thing: picture thumbs at the market place are so tiny now, you can't see what's in.

a responsive design isn't always the best choice. on the ipad, it looks more terrible than on the normal browser.

let the technicans rule, and you will lose your customers. this story here now remembers me on SmithMicros ContentParadise, when they did their "new" design years ago and many vendors and customers moved to Rendo, as using the CP website turns to get painful.

Best wishes,

 Scrib 

One problem that the update seems to have caused:

This item used to say that it was no longer available for purchase.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/hover-platform-/95969

NOW, we have a confusing 'Pending' button which takes you to the marketplace, and an ERROR: Invalid request: 95969 message.

 

(I'd really like to buy that, by the way.)

I made a simple statement about site traffic going down and it has been removed. I don't think that was in any way attacking but an observation. Strange.

BTW, I am going to remove all items from my wishlist that are nonessential to me, as they were before the site change.  My attitude has changed in regard to the way that RR looks at my opinion as a shopper.

I am a customer, as all others in this forum, and we should come first, as in most businesses.

My bad, my statement was not removed, I was looking at wrong page.:)

I did recheck what I'd typed in the navigation bar! Honestly, I think this is a brighter, cleaner look. No matter what you do, people don't like change. It happens every time a site freshens up their look. Someone put a lot of work into the new look, and I know they're still tweaking it. Your work is appreciated: it's not easy coming up with something new.

Quote - I did recheck what I'd typed in the navigation bar! Honestly, I think this is a brighter, cleaner look. No matter what you do, people don't like change. It happens every time a site freshens up their look. Someone put a lot of work into the new look, and I know they're still tweaking it. Your work is appreciated: it's not easy coming up with something new.

LOL

From time to time Rendo asks our opinion about their site - NOW would be a very good time to start a poll. But they don't care, they don't want to hear our complaints.

Some smart aleck had an oh so great idea: "There's no need for a change but let's annoy our customers and vendors nevertheless!"

SIGH - when DAZ downgraded their store I stopped buying there in June 2012. I do not want to see a similar fiasco here and be forced to draw similar consequences. I have bought here since August 2000 and my item list says I have 1193 items (there were even more items on my DAZ list). But maybe that's more than enough money spent here. I have already deleted everything on my wishlist.

And I doubt that I will renew my Prime Membership for a third year.

I quit daz, too at the same time. Many others followed.....same might happen here?

Quote - I quit daz, too at the same time. Many others followed.....same might happen here?

yup, same for me...once that genesis thing reared its head i was out of the PC and rarely purchase anything from Daz--only once in the while now do i purchase from them and only if that something is unique and interesting and it's for Poser.  they were so cock sure that genesis was going to be the road to fantastic success for Daz--i don't think it's been all they had counted on...i bet too the disaster of Daz' site redesign was another factor which drove customers away...beware Rosity--it could happen to you too...

Wow - it is good to see that other folks are not happy about the site design.  Yeah, I quit buying as much from DAZ.  Some of it was site design.  Some of it was the whole Genesis thing.  Anyway, I hope that Rendo will revise their color scheme at least.  I really like how the site looked and felt before. Rendo has always been one of my favorite places to shop. 

The colors are dreadful.  The interface is horrible.  Do I hate it?  With a passion!  Will I stop coming here because of some bad colors?

Hell no!

L'ultima fòrza è nella morte.

Trying to word this so it will be helpful feedback:

 

The colors chosen for the site combined with the white blocks and bland white header have changed the entire tone of the site.  We Rendo customers are snobs.  We liked an interface that looked high-end, classy, elegant and different.  This new layout looks just like all of Rendo's competitors now, and it is not an attractive or appealing look.  It's like going from Tiffany's to Wal-Mart.  I'm not trying to be vicious but that is the only way I can describe the shocking difference and the downgrade to site feel.  You've cheapened it, gone from engraved metal and enamel to plastic.  I do not associate quality with this visual style.  There is a visceral reaction that this is cheap and tawdry.  It is a 180 from the way the site felt and looked before.

I totally agree with Minyassa!  The huge white blocks make the site hard to navigate and the pages look like so many other sites in digital sales, now. I loved the RR look before, but it detracts from the promo images with the colors now chosen.

 Wishlist is unrecognizable and pics are way too big.

hello,

I don't understand how a pro site like renderosity that lives by ad on visual  vitual things can go live with an unfinished template on its website. It's just nonsense.

If you pay your webmaster you pay him/her/it to much !

A template / a css can be tested outside production damnit, that's why we got sandboxes.

I am webmaster for few communities and I NEVER went live without testing under at least IE/Firefox/Opera ... and without validation of the result.  I loved Rendo because it was out of damn white and to bright colors.

Every time you change something I lost something I liked / used, last time it was the daz studio category in the store search, now it's the peace of my eyes... not sure I'll go over that one.  And I know you work on it, but the Marketplace was never so slow before.

So, buy or rent a test server, duplicate your site there, play with it but don't bother the custumers, do some charges tests and once ok propose it, not force it on custumers. We are creatures of habits, nothing wrong to want to expand / change / wanting to get new custumers but if you loose the old one in the process i'll say it's not a win win it is a loose loose choice. The old ones are those that do reputation.

You saw what happened to daz3d when they went through the change of their website... don't repeat others errors.

Please be smart people... only smart people acknowledge their errors and fix them.

so i surely did some so I apology already but never forget the french expression "Le client est Roi" (tl: The custumer is king).  

I am a member and customer for many years and this is the first time that a GUI is also ugly at Renderosity. It does not want to go shopping.

I have to agree with the majority of members. I still can't believe this has happened.

Renderosity looked classy and inviting. Often I couldn't resist an item because the presentation was irresistable. With the new design the products seems to disappear into the background. They look so unattractive that I don't even bother to take a closer look.

Yesterday I deleted more than half of my Wishlist because it has become unmanagable. The huge thumbnails with part of the info on the site and part below the thumbnails is irritating. The pages have become so long that it hurts to scroll through 10 ore more. It is close to impossible to find the Prime items because there is only a tiny miniatur banner on the top left of the huge thumbnail.

The large amount of white space is another problem. My eyes are very sensitive and I do need them more than another item from the store. Please, please, tone it down. Not everybody likes to use Firefox. 

I too haven't done my usual weekend shopping and I let the coupon go. At the moment I can't bring myself to buy anything. I stopped buying from DAZ after their site change and I would be devastated if I had to loose Renderosity as well. I feel very attached to this site and I can only hope that Renderosity is more inclined to listen to the despair of their customers.

Why anyone would go live with a screw up site change like this is beyond me...and over a weekend. Who's bright idea was that?

Quote - Yesterday I deleted more than half of my Wishlist because it has become unmanagable. The huge thumbnails with part of the info on the site and part below the thumbnails is irritating. The pages have become so long that it hurts to scroll through 10 ore more. It is close to impossible to find the Prime items because there is only a tiny miniatur banner on the top left of the huge thumbnail.

Out of curiosity, are you looking at the wishlist with your browser window full sized and the browser zoom set to default? Since this is a "responsive" design, it basically looks wrong if you have too small a window or zoomed in too much, etc.

I only ask, because for me, the thumbnails are small sized and the info appears all in the right place on the wishlist.

Renderosity Store :: Daz3D Store :: Facebook

please bring tha older look back! or make the colours a bit lessss grey? :(

The main problem is that the current look of the site "forces" many users (me included) to leave after 10-15 minutes... to prevent a severe migraine LOL

The huge header now is light grey (and not white like it was yesterday) but this is only a very litte improvement. The browsing experience is still quite unpleasant.

I really hope that this is just a temporary interface... a transition state between the old and a new (hopefully more eye-friendly) layout.

So... let's be patient and lets give to webmasters & designers some days to fix all...  But I agree with people who says that the layout should have been tested elsewhere (a mirror site) BEFORE to apply it to Renderosity.

Mike.  

To answer Sabby about wishlist....I am using IE, with full page view at 1440x900 settings and I have to scroll my wishlist 10 pages long to see all 34 things on the list, due to the HUGE white thumbnails.

Yes unfortunately for me the new look does hurt my eyes a lot.  The reason I see it so is so much white on a dark colour background bad idea.  The reason the Daz site works well is that the colour scheme is not so over powering and easier on the eyes.

But here it is to much of a contrast and thus harder to look at and after awhile one begins to get headaches.

Just looked at my wishlist and well it is a close copy of  Daz's in terms of giving you a cost total of the items on it there was nothing like this before wondering why now.

And looking at the header even more it is a close copy of Daz's colour scheme, will be interesting to see what happens next.

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Hi Sabby,

Today the "Quote" is no longer working. Maybe they are changing the Forums.

It does not matter how I look at the Wishlist. Reduced or full screen makes no difference in the appearance. Window is at 100% and not zoomed in. The thumbnails remain huge and the white space is forbidding.

I am not the only one with this problem. A large number of members have the same experience.

;( IE 8? Granted, I am not at all defending this disaster of a site update. I am just trying to understand the problem.

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Quote - ;( IE 8? Granted, I am not at all defending this disaster of a site update. I am just trying to understand the problem.

This ^ LOL

I'm on Firefox and deleted my entire wishlist...it was just brutally annoying to the point of ridiculous. So 480.00 worth of items, in the trash. I'll try and spend my rewards and maybe the GC I have, but that will be all for the foreseeable future.

Quote - ;( IE 8? Granted, I am not at all defending this disaster of a site update. I am just trying to understand the problem.

Hurrah, Quote is working again.

Yes, IE8 and Chrome. I too would like to understand the problem. Part of it is quite clear. Since my Wishlist was just perfect before the change the problem can't be on my end. Nothing has changed on my side.

You are very kind and I really do appreciate your interest. I do have some knowledge about foreground and background design plus professional testing procedures.

I am afraid that there is very little I can do from my side to remedy this look of the Wishlist. Therefore, I have deleted more than half of it. This is of course of no benefit to the vendors and I feel very, very sorry for them.

Only Renderosity can fix this and I am sure (since so many customers experience the same thing) it will be fixed in the near or distand future. If I can help with more information on the problem I am happy to do so.

Thank you again for your kindness and interest.

Helgas, I see what you mean, in IE, they are practically full sized thumbs, I can cross post this into the bug forum thread we vendors have.

~Sabby

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Quote - Helgas, I see what you mean, in IE, they are practically full sized thumbs, I can cross post this into the bug forum thread we vendors have.

~Sabby

Thank you Sabby, this would be a big help. You are a very lovely person and a favourite vendor of mine.

I posted this and Jennblake says that is a problem being addressed today. :D So, YAY~ And thank you for the kind words! You made my day a lot brighter. 8)

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Should be fixed now. :)

Yes, wishlist is fixed as far as the thumb size is concerned. Too bad that many have deleted their list, and in my case, half of it.

 Still a 'blinding' white background against a dark blue page background, which is too much contrast for my eyes to look at for more than a few seconds. 

 It doesn't help that every button on the page contains most colors in a first grader's box of crayola crayons!

   I think that this is what most are complaining about because the RR site had such pleasing colors to look at before this change, and now it chaotic.

Quote - Should be fixed now. :)

A heartfelt Thank You to you, Sabby (for taking action), and of course the Rendo Team.

This was incredibly fast.

I know, this is going to sound ungrateful but I will at least give it a try. The size is perfect but the background (white) is blinding. After page two I felt pretty much blinded. Is there a way to tone the background to something a little bit darker? It is not urgent - maybe after everything is fixed it could be considered?

Thank you again,

Helga 

I believe they are still working on the colors.

Also, no thanks to me, this fix was already underway when I posted it in the vendor thread. :) Three cheers to the R-Team~

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Is anyone using Windows 8? Has the website been redesigned for that? The icons on the sales pages certainly seem to be bigger and sized for touch pads. Am willing to send Renderosity a color wheel (showing complimentary colors and which are opposites). This is pretty hard on the eyes...

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

I see some color changes made  but boxes still look amaturish. Get rid of the vast white spaces, or change them to another color.

How hard would it be just to admit the mistake, suck up the money spent, and go back to the old site design?  Be that company that listens to their customers and vendors.

 

PS: not everyone has the latest and greatest Windows  OS and browsers, because older versions are tried and true.  Seasoned users keep OS that work and are not quick to change to the newest versions that come out.  My experience is, that some updates mess up your programs and your equipment.   

Stuff that works in older versions, usually work in newer versions, but the reverse is not always true. 

HERE'S THE MAIN THING..............

   The products just don't look as 'appetizing' to buy as they did before when the site was pleasing to look at. 

    The promos don't tantilize me into looking at the sales page to make purchases.

 

 

 

Quote - HERE'S THE MAIN THING..............

   The products just don't look as 'appetizing' to buy as they did before when the site was pleasing to look at. 

    The promos don't tantilize me into looking at the sales page to make purchases.

 

 

 

 

Have to agree with this.

I believe the white boxes in the promos (and everywhere) are gone. In my opinion, this is looking much better than it was a couple days ago.

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Please do a hard refresh if you are still seeing them

 

 

Thanks

Quote - I believe the white boxes in the promos (and everywhere) are gone. In my opinion, this is looking much better than it was a couple days ago.

I agree... the site DOES look much better than it did.   I'm still not big on the banner up top... I'd like to see it the same color as the boxes on the side, and there's still a certain "Dazishness" to it, but it's much, much better than it was when it was rolled out.

Sorry, after refresh, site still looks ......BLAH!

While the colors are exponentially better and easier to deal with, the large white space at the top and bottom is still a bit bright. Since I'm on my computer a lot I do have the brightness turned down and it's still a bit overwhelming.

And the store? I don't know...it's jumbly...it's too jarring and everything looks too loud in it or something. I got three pages in and gave it up. I used to be able to get through dozens of pages...but this? I don't know. If I can get used to it? Who knows? If I can, I'll shop. If I can't? Oh well. You won't miss my inconsequential dollars. :)

Well just got to look at the new site and well, it just looks like Daz has bought Rendo the colour scheme is exactly the same as Daz's except where it is white it is grey and so on and so forth.

And well the Rendo title is pretty well uninspired and dull.

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Quote - While the colors are exponentially better and easier to deal with, the large white space at the top and bottom is still a bit bright. Since I'm on my computer a lot I do have the brightness turned down and it's still a bit overwhelming.

And the store? I don't know...it's jumbly...it's too jarring and everything looks too loud in it or something. I got three pages in and gave it up. I used to be able to get through dozens of pages...but this? I don't know. If I can get used to it? Who knows? If I can, I'll shop. If I can't? Oh well. You won't miss my inconsequential dollars. :)

You won't miss my dollars either.  I will buy ONLY essential things, but plan to spend much less time on this site than I did before.

Some people just have a hard time admitting that they made a mistake and move on.

   

I know Renderosity has it's own interernal stats, but really, how many 3d artists use IE9? Have you seen their ad campaign? Paraphrasing here but "it stinks a little less".

"Even if you don't use Internet Explorer, you should try it out. Internet Explorer 6 and 7 are embarrassments that you should be ashamed to use. Internet Explorer 8 is acceptable, but no more than that. Internet Explorer 9 is the anti-IE6."

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/03/microsoft-takes-aim-at-hipsters-nerds-with-new-advertising-campaign/

Sure it's got 31% usage stats right now (because every pc comes with IT installed). Most immediately download other browsers. Gambling on Windows 8 (and by virtue IE9) is a bad plan. Very much like gambling on the success of the Zune. Btw, Microsoft is already killing Kinect.

Don't design your website to favor the Microsoft browser (or Windows 8 soon to be gone when Windows 9 comes out). Also this is not Microsoft's first foray into tablets. The previous failed spectacularly.

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

Wow. What just happened with the colors there???  I did not do that...

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

Quote - Wow. What just happened with the colors there???  I did not do that...

It would appear that you highlighted the text.

THANK YOU!! You've added the percent of sale to sales pages!! Yippie.:) 

I might be able to get use to colors with this back. Thanks for listening!

Toni

tcombs, we are a long way from finished so just bear with us and I think the end result you will love!!  I hate change and it takes me a minute to get used to new colors but I really like these as I wasn't a fan of the blues:)

I spose I can get used to it the marketplce does look better with larger pics amd so on. Still deciding on how wishlist looks.  Product pages do seem to have a neater look about them though the white can be blinding at times.

Surprised at there being no real change to how galleries look thought there might have been unless still in the works.

Now that I have had time I say yes the site looks better just wish the Rendo title was a bit flashier but can't have everything.

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StaceyG, thanks, I will keep watching for changes. Still don't stay on long because of the look. Seems to work in Chrome better than IE.

If the white background and white at top of page changed to black, it would be easier to look at, I think.

 Renders rewards page is still a mess in IE, but I'll keep checking to see if changes help any with overall look.

 

I use either Firefox, Opera and or Chrome due to the fact that I don't trust IE and would not touch it with 10 foot barge pole.

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Posted Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:25 pm, Edited Thu, Feb 21, 2013 9:26 pm
This may just be me..

I work for a major retailer on the east coast, as a web developer.  Specfically, I do front end web design.

It strikes me as exceptionally odd that the following happened:

• Code launch middle of day

• Code launch not cross browser tested

• Code launch missing elements

• Code launch spanning an indefinate period of time 

• Hotfixes deployed into Production without testing

So I am really not sure I understand the "we're still working on things".   Seems rather... like a lack of formal process that should really be in place if you intend to keep code quality high and be able to deploy it

By: ssgbryan on 2/28/13
If you had told us of this ahead of time, you wouldn't have gotten anywhere near all of the venom that you had thrown your way.

Talk to your customer base beforehand, not after the fact.

  IE 7 was my favorite, but I use IE 8 now.  I trust XP Pro over any other Windows OS,  and it won't support anything past IE8.  I have Win 7 on an extra hard disc on my newer pc, and haven't even opened win 7 up. XP is so reliable!
  I only use Chrome to look at Google stats. I hate it.  FF takes an update everyday and got tired of fooling with it.

You know what they say about old dogs and tricks.:))

Quote -   IE 7 was my favorite, but I use IE 8 now.  I trust XP Pro over any other Windows OS,  and it won't support anything past IE8.  I have Win 7 on an extra hard disc on my newer pc, and haven't even opened win 7 up. XP is so reliable!
  I only use Chrome to look at Google stats. I hate it.  FF takes an update everyday and got tired of fooling with it.

You know what they say about old dogs and tricks.:)

Yup so true a case of if it ain't broke no need to fix it.  Though I have used XP and have it on another partition of my drive I use Windows 7 exclusively now one main reason being it is the 64 bit version of Win 7 so I can use all 12 gig of system memory that I got installed.

And so far I have had it going for I reckon over a year now which is not bad for me, because when I was using Win XP I would be reinstalling it every six months or so due to it going south on me for various reasons.

But in all that I do not like IE and if I can avoid having to use it I will I don't like it and I don't really trust it.

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Both Firefox and Chrome operate on a six week release cycle on average.  Additionally they only tend to do mid release deployments when it's a major issue.  That said, Google only supports the most current release of Chrome (which is reasonable since it auto-updates).  Mozilla on the other hand supports the most current release of Firefox and the most current Long term release.

Microsoft will not support Windows XP past 2014.  It's in extended release support as is.  Once support stops, given MS's track record it will begin to suffer security issues.  This is why they are urging people to upgrade to Windows 7 / 8.

 

I use two pc's. Old one (5 years old) for main pc and new one (3 years old) for rendering.

    New pc is 64 bit with 16 GB ram.  4 hard drives. One with XP-pro, one with Win 7, and two with total of 2.5 TB  space for data.

     So far, this has worked well. Recently had new pc reformatted on spare drive with the win 7, and I hate win 7! Mainly because I don't want to use mail system that comes with it, and I can't let go of Outlook Express.

  As long as these systems work for me, I'm a happy camper. I don't like learning curve on complete changes of OS systems and programs, which is why I hate DAZ 4.5, and I'm still using DAZ 3.2.

 Some changes are good, but when RR changed to new site design, I didn't like the garrish colors and I'm still trying to deal with it.:(

 

You can download and install Outlook express on your win7 machine. 

And it's legal 

Quote - I use either Firefox, Opera and or Chrome due to the fact that I don't trust IE and would not touch it with 10 foot barge pole.

 

I second that lol. I now use Chrome solely and wouldn't go back to IE for anything and I'm a person that hates change so it took me awhile to give Chrome a shot but I kept having so many issues everytime IE updated to a new version that I finally decided to change and do NOT regret it at all.  If I have to use a second browser sometimes, I go for FF but never IE

Having toruble with traffic and sales?  Probably wouldn't have lost any if site had remained as it was.

 Lots of coupons and gimmicks to make visitors come to your site since the site change.

Was it really worth it 'standing your ground' against your customers?

Well Chrome may be good for Renderosity admins but most of us have a life outside Renderosity and we are going to be staying with the most popular browser in the world - IE.

That being said I think it would serve you well to cater to the majority of your customer base and fix the bugs that are driving us crazy for staying here...e.g. the tiny text box that we cannot expand in IE and yet is so damn easy to fix by any somewhat capable web programer.

 

Quote - I second that lol. I now use Chrome solely and wouldn't go back to IE for anything and I'm a person that hates change so it took me awhile to give Chrome a shot but I kept having so many issues everytime IE updated to a new version that I finally decided to change and do NOT regret it at all.  If I have to use a second browser sometimes, I go for FF but never IE

I'm a FireFox man. I'm forced to use IE at work.

Chrome is okay, but I hate that there is no task bar at the top (File, Edit, View, etc) and it's annoying not being able to search a page and all the other things I do with a task bar.

FireFox is king for me.

Quote - Microsoft will not support Windows XP past 2014.  It's in extended release support as is.  Once support stops, given MS's track record it will begin to suffer security issues.  This is why they are urging people to upgrade to Windows 7 / 8.

That's not good news. XP is the absolute best operating system they have ever released.

I have some software that won't work on Windows 7.

I have no idea about 8.

 

Quote - They aren't finished as with most things, it takes a minute to tweak and modify everything so please be patient while the techs work through this

....and that was Feb 21st. Today is April 1.  Stacey, I do NOT blame you, you have a horrible job of being the "one in front who takes the flack".... that's awful, and I feel for you...

I just wish the BROKEN things would be fixed and the look would be more like the "home" I wanted to live at more than any other gallery and store on the web! I have stopped spending money (except for the recent coupon, that was too good to pass up) but I avoid coming here as much as I can.... Yet I MISS the place I used to hang out at, make spontaneous purchases inspired by gallery art and credits!!

Now I can't get the pages to load properly, they stretch out, change colors (go all white) and then suddenly squish thin... I use IE8, and will not change my browser that I am comfortable with (that works for all the rest of the Internet!!).

I can't even FIND/SEE the marketplace THUMBNAILS unless the merchant chooses to flag it with the 'nudity' jpg. I can't get the gallery credit menus to work well when setting up a gallery image. Thumbnails in the market place are HUGE still. I hate having to try and scroll to FIND the 'what's new' below the "sponsored" items, which seem to be multiplying like crazy, taking up more room... poor merchants are probably desperate to help people FIND their products?

With all this uproar, I would hope that the powers that be would CHANGE BACK!  Is it really worth it? Has Rendo really made a ton MORE money? I kinda doubt it...when I check in here once a week or so to look, (at all different times) the members on line count is WAY DOWN.  I just cannot understand how a few people who might have good enough eyesight to see this site well enough on an ipad to be able PURCHASE products outweighs the unhappiness of the majority???

Life is hard enough, guys... come on, bring back some happiness???!!!

Life Requires Assembly and we all know how THAT goes!

Just to give my opinion about it, I don't like the new rosity look. The old look was much better for me. 

For an artistic site, draining color to grays and such is not ideal.... Plus there's still the wrong color text on wrong color back ground (try putting an item in your cart that you already have in your cart to see what I mean).  It was a very haphazard rollout of a website redesign. As to the browser preferences, I don't like IE. Microsoft has a long history of trying to limit all your choices to Microsoft products. While they've been forced to change slightly they still get caught and sued (European union yay!!! for forcing changes on Microsoft!!! ) they still are very guilty of it repeatly.

As to the website drop off of users, I do have to admit it seems to peak at around 1600 ish, never getting back to the 3000 user days...

The dust settled, thinking "what a fine home, at least for now" not realizing that doom would soon be coming in the form of a vacuum cleaner.

Monday, April 8, 2013 4:54 PM
2298 artists currently online

Not over 3000 like before site change.

I've been noticing a drop in online user numbers - there was time when it seemed to be steadily increasing. Not so nowadays. I'm curious to know why.

Beginners tutorials for Bryce

Bryce Arena

DAH

And almost a month and a half later.....Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:12 PM
1159 artists currently online

Nowhere near the numbers we used to see, especially on a weekend when peeps are off and not at work, but I digress...

I do not comment much in the forums anymore. But after reading all five pages of this thread today, felt that I have something to say that's not been said yet. So today I will.

Look folks it's their site to do with as they wish, if the ptb want to make it a success finne, if the ptb want to drive it into the ground, fine they can.

 

IT'S THEIRS.

 

IF we the people don't like it, we are always free to open up and or start a site that is more to our own liking. ;)

 

So whats all the hullabalooh about?

"The Blood is the life!"

 

Quote - And almost a month and a half later.....Sunday, May 12, 2013 6:12 PM
1159 artists currently online

Nowhere near the numbers we used to see, especially on a weekend when peeps are off and not at work, but I digress...

I do not comment much in the forums anymore. But after reading all five pages of this thread today, felt that I have something to say that's not been said yet. So today I will.

Look folks it's their site to do with as they wish, if the ptb want to make it a success finne, if the ptb want to drive it into the ground, fine they can.

 

IT'S THEIRS.

 

IF we the people don't like it, we are always free to open up and or start a site that is more to our own liking. ;)

 

So whats all the hullabalooh about?

 

It's other people's livlihood. That DOESN'T belong to them. They contract with vendors to have the traffic and the ability to sell their items. So while yes, it is their site, they do have an obligation to the people who pay their wages to make sure they do the best they can for their customers and vendors.

If you invest time and money into a company, while it may not be yours, you do have a vested interest, true? Same principle. As such, you should have the right to voice your opinion when they do something you think might be detrimental to your investment.

Laura

We definitely welcome your opinions and suggestions/feedback always. And of course, everyone is definitely entitled to their own views and opinions. I can say that the programmers are hard at work.  They did get a little sidetracked with another project for another part of the business but are back to work now on renderosity so please be patient with us as we continue working on things.

 

I also wanna say that as far as overall sales for the marketplace, they have never been better and continue increasing each month and we are very pleased that so many of our vendors are doing so well. The Marketplace changes have definitely resulted in an increase of customers (including record breaking numbers of first time buyers each month for the past several months) as well as overall revenue and as we continue implementing improvements, new features, etc throughout the whole site, we expect things to continue on the upswing!

 

Thank you

@Laura

The PTB here have zero obligation to anyone here. The PTB here are not obligated to let you me or anyone else, or any other vendor, sell a damn thing on their site if they don't wish too.

Even having a membership here, let alone selling products here, is a priveledge, not a right.

IF their actions are affecting your "livelihood" waaah tough.

That's when you as a vendor go someplace else. Or you sit and suffer through the bad decisions you think they've made. IF Renderosity were to close up tomorrow the site would simply be gone, and yes, the vendors would have to go elsewhere to push their wares. Seriously do you think if Renderosity closed up shop, anyone of these vendors would be getting a cut of the proceeds? 

Survey says! No

Because Renderosity is OWNED by someone else. Simple as that, this (Renderosity) is a business people. Not a 70's style socialist commune.

 

Regards,

 

Daidalos

"The Blood is the life!"

 

Fortunately, Renderosity has shown great willingness to listen to and work with vendors.  I don't recall someone on the staff suggesting a vendor take a hike in response to a query or complaint.

My Store - My Gallery - My Freebies - My Web Site

That is correct Michael.  We really truly value all feedback and try our best to listen and do what is beneficial to all. Sometimes it doesn't happen as fast as everyone would like and we can't always do everything every member wants but we do gather all feedback and information and do what we can to please the majority to make Renderosity the very best it can be for all!!

 

Thank you all for your support!!

That's all I am saying, can't please everyone. I mean seriously I want my cut and paste feature fixed for Chrome users. But that's a minor issue. I do not expect the proggies to just drop what they're doing to fix me. ;)

"The Blood is the life!"

 

Even if I am trying to get use to new site design (not going well), the pages load so darn SLOW! Only 1400 people online now and still unbearably slow.

Personally, I can live with some of the stylistic changes - but the r-e-a-l-l-y s-l-o-w page load times are getting to be a real pain. Seriously guys, you gotta get this fixed.l

I said the same thing but remarkable new site shows nothing in my post!  3rd time I've seen over 2000 visitors since site change. That seems to affect the slowing down the site, too.:(

Quote - That's all I am saying, can't please everyone. I mean seriously I want my cut and paste feature fixed for Chrome users. But that's a minor issue. I do not expect the proggies to just drop what they're doing to fix me. ;)

If you like the way the site looks or behaves. Wonderful, more power to you.

If you have an issue, speak up!

Your comments sound like a lot of the "cheerleaders" at the "other" site that bashes people that say there is a problem with what's going on.

The site IS improving and part of that is due to people reporting problems and voicing whatever issues they may have.

The staff has been responsive and things are getting better all the time.

Quote - The staff has been responsive and things are getting better all the time.

Nooo, not particularly. I posted in a different thread 2 and half weeks ago about the slowness of the pages and images loading, buttons having to be clicked on 2-3 times before they worked and it's just gotten worse. I'm not the only one. I see it in comments every day that the site is 'buggy' or 'slow' and people are having problems. I had to wait today for probably a minute for this one gallery page to load, and then when it did (after about another 30 seconds) I got a red X in a little box, like it wasn't to be found.

My notification that I had new images to look at was flashing, but when the page loaded I simply got the 'Old' button...until about 40 seconds later, it finally decided to show me the new stuff. This is inexcusable for any site and it only happens on this site - no other.