Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Scaling and conformers

Cage opened this issue on May 11, 2013 · 4 posts


Cage posted Sat, 11 May 2013 at 3:33 PM

With scaling supposedly having been fixed in recent updates for Posers 9 and Pro2012, I have been working on updating my characters with more accurate body shaping using scaling for ScaleX, ScaleY, or ScaleZ as well as ScaleAll.  As I delve more deeply into this process, however, I am finding some strange behavior in conformed figures.  Even with "Include Scales When Conforming" in use, I am encountering inconsistent axial scaling between the conformer and its conform target.  Generally this isn't a problem but in cases where the surfaces of the two figures need to closely match it is proving to be a real hassle.

It looks to me like axial scaling, then, is either still buggy or its implementation is based on some undisclosed assumptions about how a conformed figure will be constructed.  In the past, conformers have only needed to contain actors with geometry plus, when appropriate, one further actor along each "chain", to provide anchoring.  So I have a bathing suit, say, which covers only the torso.  It has geometry for hip, abdomen, chest, and the collars.  It needs as anchoring actors the thighs, shoulders, and neck.  The conforming figure doesn't require hands or feet or head, much less fingers and toes, which allows for a trim conformer cr2 and (presumably) less overhead overall.

Is this sort of setup still acceptable, for use with axial scaling?  I have been testing a problem conformer and right now all signs seem to show that the inconsistent axial scaling resembles the problems seen in other cases when those anchoring actors aren't included in the conformer figure.  I begin to suspect that a more thorough anchoring setup is somehow expected by Poser, for proper axial scaling in the conformer.  I fear I may need to add those hands, feet, fingers and toes, all the redundant bits, in order to get proper handling out of this.

Has anyone tested this sort of thing?  Does anyone have observations or advice?  Any thoughts?  I will add junk actors for stabilization to all of my conformers, if I need to, but I'd rather not if there could be another solution to my problem.  Anyone?  😕 Cage will try not to be as great a Grumpy Pants as he has been recently and will answer nicely. :lol: 😊 

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