DarkElegance opened this issue on Jun 12, 2013 · 19 posts
DarkElegance posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 1:15 PM
ok is there an easy way to get the SSS in feathers for wings in pp2012?
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WandW posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 1:51 PM
You might try applying the Hair shader in EZ Skin...
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DarkElegance posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:32 PM
Quote - You might try applying the Hair shader in EZ Skin...
its not doing it. wont work. it keeps saying the wings are a body part?
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WandW posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:44 PM
Are the wings a prop or a figure, or a part of a figure?
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DarkElegance posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 2:52 PM
WandW posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 3:03 PM
Select the wings, go to the Editor Tab and apply the Hair shader to whatever materials are feathered....
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DarkElegance posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 3:41 PM
RedPhantom posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 4:45 PM Site Admin
Don't use the hair thing. Just select the wings. start ezskin2. go to the editor tab. select which material zones you want to affect. (you can do more than one at a time) then are the bottom choose which material you want. there's a drop down list. click apply shader. then convert.
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WandW posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 5:47 PM
Good catch Red Phantom; It didn't occcur to me that the hair prop button was being pushed.... 
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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:
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DarkElegance posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 6:02 PM
Quote - Don't use the hair thing. Just select the wings. start ezskin2. go to the editor tab. select which material zones you want to affect. (you can do more than one at a time) then are the bottom choose which material you want. there's a drop down list. click apply shader. then convert.
eh, ok I tried this. but in the editor tab the wing materials are all set to ignore. I have tried to right click etc and no go. I am using ezskin2
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LaurieA posted Wed, 12 June 2013 at 6:10 PM
Quote - > Quote - Don't use the hair thing. Just select the wings. start ezskin2. go to the editor tab. select which material zones you want to affect. (you can do more than one at a time) then are the bottom choose which material you want. there's a drop down list. click apply shader. then convert.
eh, ok I tried this. but in the editor tab the wing materials are all set to ignore. I have tried to right click etc and no go. I am using ezskin2
They are all set to ignore (only because EZSkin doesn't recognize the figure), but you can change them to whatever you want in the dropdown list.
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monkeycloud posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 2:23 AM
Yeah, change the "ignore" to hair, or skin.
I think the hair option works pretty well.
Just select your zone in the list, and with that highlighted, move you cursor down to the dropdown box below the list of mat zones. Pick "hair" or whatever from that and click apply.
Oh yeah, you can shift+click or ctrl+click, as usual, to multi-select contiguous or disparate mat zones in one go ;-)
DarkElegance posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 5:31 AM
yea...I realized this morning what I was doing wrong. I felt like such a dafty afterwards..that is what I get for working at 1am. I so need to stop doing that.
sincerely and much thanks....
the dafty
:P
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WandW posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 6:23 AM
Glad it worked for you! :biggrin:
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DarkElegance posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 6:41 AM
Quote - Glad it worked for you! :biggrin:
yea this morning after coffee etc I opened it up and tried again and was like DUHHHHHH
so need to have a pop up window on my puter for when I post after midnight>.<
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hborre posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 10:52 AM
The only question I have, is it really necessary to include SSS in feathers? Firstly, it will slowdown your render; secondly, do feathers, realistically and naturally, have significantly SSS occurring? I can understand the underlying skin, if visible, and closeups. But middle- to background imaging, it may not make a difference. It might mean unnecessary render sampling and time.
WandW posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 11:54 AM
I would think SSS would be worth a look; if one holds a feather up to a light, it's translucent, and it, like hair, is made of keratin. However, the Proof is in the Pudding....
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The Wisdom of bagginsbill:
"Oh - the manual says that? I have never read the manual - this must be why."
hborre posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 12:20 PM
Agreed. It just comes down to a response BB made at RDNA's Poser9/PoserPro12 forum concerning applying SSS to certain types of materials. Plastics - ok, marble - ok, stone - not applicable; use your own good judgement and common sense.
DarkElegance posted Thu, 13 June 2013 at 3:35 PM
Quote - The only question I have, is it really necessary to include SSS in feathers? Firstly, it will slowdown your render; secondly, do feathers, realistically and naturally, have significantly SSS occurring? I can understand the underlying skin, if visible, and closeups. But middle- to background imaging, it may not make a difference. It might mean unnecessary render sampling and time.
I am looking to get that light play in the feather that happens when the wings are outstretched and the sun/moon is behind them. Though the hair setting isnt reallly doing it. I think though I will play with it abit.
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