I need to create flames in Poser 9 and I need to have them so I can manipulate their shape so that if I wanted to have a flaming spiral I can do it.

Is there a tutorial on how to do this?

Here is a fire material I made.

It is automatically animated if you make a movie instead of a still image.

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Here it is applied to a poser spiral prop, surrounding a cylinder.

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Here it is also applied to the cylinder.

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And now applied to a chair.

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Thanks, BB, I'll have a go with this and see how I can make it work for some of what I have in mind. Looks very workable. Is there a way to make it into a single flame of varying sizes? I also need that capability.

Anybody have pointers or tutorial on how to make a single morphable flame in Poser 9?

Thee is this. I'm not sure if it fits exactly what you need but take a look. http://www.daz3d.com/smoke-and-flames-tool

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Quote - Here it is applied to a poser spiral prop, surrounding a cylinder.

Tht is sweet - I can find a million uses for this! Thanks a TON!!!

Yes, I will too, but I'm also needing just a single flame that I can us in a similar manner as BB demonstrated.

Also, how do I install the Fire.mt5.txt file? Do I need to change the extension?

For stills or animation ya could just put the flames in the renders or add them in post.

For a still ya could just paint it in post.

For anamtions app's like after effects.
I'm sure there' more then a few CGI flames app's out there.
Blender can make Flames.

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Not looking for animation. Just need to be able to render a 3d representation of a single flame spiraling upward.

Quote - Not looking for animation. Just need to be able to render a 3d representation of a single flame spiraling upward.

Easyiest fastest way would be after you rendered ya Poser render.
Send it to a 2D App & paint the flame in.

Gimps a very good Free 2D App.

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http://runevision.com/3d/include/particles/

Hope this link works, not for poser, but also doesn't have to be an animation either. Have to scroll down a little to see what I mean.

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Oh, yeah, run the animation. Cool.

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Dumb question:

How do I install and apply the Fire.mt5.txt file BB posted above? Do I need to change the extension to something else besides a txt file?

Because when I tried applying the file in the material room to a primitive sphere and even after trying all sorts of extensions (.jpg, .mtl and leaving it as .txt) nothing shows on the sphere.

Remove the txt extention and place into your Materials folder. From there you can apply the shader to an object. I have a folder inside of my Materials Folder completely dedicated to BB's shaders.

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Quote - Remove the txt extention and place into your Materials folder.

Thank you, but what do I change the extension to?

just delete the ".txt" and try "Fire.mt5"

if "Fire.mt5" don't work change the .txt to what ever extensions are in the Materials folder.

there are .mt5's in the Materials folder.

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Save it as fire.mt5 place it in the material file in your runtime.

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Thank you, that worked. Much appreciative of the help.

Now big question: How do I make my own material? Is there a tutorial on how to make a material I can then apply to a shape? I'm needing to have a different flame pattern.

Also, when I apply BB's flame to a sphere it covers the bottom half. How do I get it to cover the whole sphere?

Ok, forget the question about making my own materials, what I need to know is:

When I apply BB's flame to a sphere it covers the bottom half. How do I get it to cover the whole sphere?

Sorry I've been away - I'm in bug-fix and release week for my real work.

Here I modified the material to remove the modulation that was based on surface normal pointing up or down. This version will produce flames over the entire object you use it on. This will look less like a natural fire, but since you asked for it, here it is.

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You can adjust the density of the flames in the advanced material room. Find the Fractal_Sum node. The amount of "gaps" and/or reddish flame areas is controlled by the "Bottom" parameter. As you raise "Bottom", the gaps will appear more. Here I changed it from .1 to .3.

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If you want large gaps but still have sharp-edged yellow flames, also increase bias.

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Hi BagginsBill! Thank you for that.

Since I've got you online (I hope) I have a couple questions:

Will this material apply to your orbs? Because I can't get it to.
Is there a way to make your flames morph into a single flame that I can then morph to different shapes and sizes?

A single flame versus a fire - obviously these are related but they are so different that this shader simply does not apply.

Are you trying to use a BB orb because it is small? The fire material in this thread will
"apply" but is likely to not make sense. The random flames and gaps it produces are larger than the orb - it is likely that the orb falls entirely in a gap and becomes invisible, or is entirely filled with yellow and looks nothing like a flame.

If you supply a flame prop, I may be able to produce a suitable material for it. But nothing is going to make a sphere look like a flame.

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Well, I was just trying out your orb to see if it would produce a better ball of fire.

What I am looking for is a spiraling flame, something similar to:

http://www.flagstaffhearthandhome.com/images/homepage/torch2-581pix.jpg

or

http://www.loupiote.com/photos/31017504.shtml

or like this candle shape, but as a flame:

http://img1.etsystatic.com/022/1/7449142/il_570xN.486584027_5ytw.jpg

Stumbled on this thread looking for pointers on fire - BB's shaders look fantastic but the links appear to be dead. Any hope of getting them relinked, or a screenshot of the setup?

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@thekageRyu - You can get a BB fire shader from his Google site in the file cabinet area BB's stuff . It is for Firefly, not Superfly.

For P11 using Superfly, seachnasaigh has a material pack with a fire shader in the freestuff here

@raven - I had already checked there and I just checked again and the fire shader does not seem to be there. I realise it is for FF, that is what I am looking for.

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I did this a while back, maybe it would work https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/flamer---a-flame-tool-for-poser/119177

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@willyb53 thank you, I think I have that somewhere, but I am really just in need of a high end material. I have been trying to make one myself, but could use ideas, when I saw the BB posts earlier I thought those looked perfect, and animatable (which would really be handy). I am retexturing several objects/figures for a project.

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@theKageRyu - just looked and downloaded it to check, it's still there.

@raven - Thank you, I did not look under file cabinet I was looking under free stuff. I see it now, and I appreciate the pointer to it. I am sorry I missed it earlier.

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