Rocksteady opened this issue on Aug 30, 2013 · 14 posts
Rocksteady posted Fri, 30 August 2013 at 8:31 PM
Does anyone have any experience and luck selling high quality prints of your work?
markschum posted Fri, 30 August 2013 at 11:11 PM
limited copies yes although its a tough market. I did some fantasy landscapes , some with a few odd animals in them, three moons or two suns sort of thing, A few with wrecked carts like the aftermath of an old disaster or war. Nothing much with any people though.
the cost to make them is a huge factor. For mass market you need to look at color photoopies or a small offset print run. Large format Inkjet prints even on paper are quite expensive.
saibabameuk posted Sat, 31 August 2013 at 2:43 AM
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It is best to make small limited edition runs (signed by the artist)always popular, I printed A4A3 with an ink jet printer. I had a small gallery on a canal barge at Little Venice London.
It worked until greedy British Waterways put me out of business.
The whole thing is on a website I recently put up if you are interested. Link attached.
Cheers enjoy making pots of loot :-)
cspear posted Sat, 31 August 2013 at 7:08 AM
Great, it's the weekend, and I get to put my business hat on...
I have a commercial fine art printing business. I don't create, publish or sell the art, I just print it, but here are some observations.
Good luck!
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Rocksteady posted Sat, 31 August 2013 at 4:22 PM
Thanks guys for the all the tips and insights!
timarender posted Sun, 01 September 2013 at 4:41 AM
I am unsure what resolution such printers can offer. In the cases of, for example, a "30cm x 40cm" or a "50cm x 70cm" print, what would be the max size (number of pixels) of the graphic file in order to make full use of the Printer's capabilities and that of the paper it is to be printed onto?
Or perhaps, if it is an easier question; what DPI can these printers print at?
mrsparky posted Sun, 01 September 2013 at 5:13 AM
aeilkema posted Sun, 01 September 2013 at 8:20 AM
Quote - Great, it's the weekend, and I get to put my business hat on...
I have a commercial fine art printing business. I don't create, publish or sell the art, I just print it, but here are some observations.
- Prints are doing well at the moment: people want art to hang on their walls but can't afford to buy originals
- I've been in this business for many years and it's impossible to be certain about what will sell and what won't, so you should research your market. Go to a few art fairs and see what's grabbing the punters' attention
- Don't print too big or too small: the 30cm x 40cm to 50cm x 70cm range seems to be where the action is
- Present your work as if you were proud of it: it'll add any thing from a few pennies to a few pounds / dollars to your costs but can make all the difference
- Price your prints properly: there's no point in losing money, but over-eager pricing will scare off buyers. Rule of thumb: total up all your costs per print then mutiply 3x or 4x (depending on how desperate you are) for an approximate selling price. Remember, this might have to cover other costs (rental for your 'pitch', commission, publicity fliers etc.)
Good luck!
Out of sheer curiosity (and some self interest as well), what printers do you use to print? I'm looking at printing my own cards & posters, an art line of my own, so I'm interested in what others use to print fine art. I've been looking at an Epson 3880, seems affordable in buying and printing costs, yet has good output.
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cspear posted Mon, 02 September 2013 at 5:55 AM
Quote - I am unsure what resolution such printers can offer. In the cases of, for example, a "30cm x 40cm" or a "50cm x 70cm" print, what would be the max size (number of pixels) of the graphic file in order to make full use of the Printer's capabilities and that of the paper it is to be printed onto?
Or perhaps, if it is an easier question; what DPI can these printers print at?
This is where using DPI (Dots per Inch) and PPI (Pixels per Inch) interchangeably becomes a problem. Inkjet printers typically print at up to 2400 DPI (HP, Canon) or 2880 DPI (Epson), but throwing images at them with corresponding PPI would be crazy. The high Dot density allows convincing continuous tone reproductions: each pixel of an image will require at least 4 *dots *to reproduce.
The maximum you'd need (apart from a couple of very exotic applications) would be 300PPI to 360PPI, you'd be fine with 200PPI - 240PPI most of the time, and you'd get away with 150PPI - 180PPI. These PPI figures are all at the printed size. So for a 50cm x 70cm print (approx 20in x 28in) you'd need a minimum of 3000 x 4200 pixels.
Quote - Out of sheer curiosity (and some self interest as well), what printers do you use to print? I'm looking at printing my own cards & posters, an art line of my own, so I'm interested in what others use to print fine art. I've been looking at an Epson 3880, seems affordable in buying and printing costs, yet has good output.
Our fine art prints are produced on an Epson Stylus Pro 9900: you'd get similar results from the 4900 desktop version, but have a look at equivalents from Canon and HP.
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aeilkema posted Mon, 02 September 2013 at 6:34 AM
Quote - Our fine art prints are produced on an Epson Stylus Pro 9900: you'd get similar results from the 4900 desktop version, but have a look at equivalents from Canon and HP.
Thanks for the reply! I already did look at those others. Seems like Canon gets very mixed reviews and the cost per print seems to be a lot higher due to the ink prices. I had a Canon inkjet before and compared to Epson inkjets I had, the Canon was very expensive on ink. But Epson inkjet ink used to clog a lot, the Canon didn't have that issue, but was just too expensive to run and it broke down after a year.
HP seems to be OK with one exception.... the affordable range for me can only take up 0.8mm thick paper, which is a limitation if you plan on using posterboard and other thicker materials.
Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722
Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(
Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk
cspear posted Mon, 02 September 2013 at 7:55 AM
When making a buying decision for a large format printer you have to consider a number of factors; the current offerings from Epson, HP and Canon will all produce beautiful prints, but you'll need to consider ink costs, paper handling, quality of included software, cost and ease of servicing, and so on. You'll need to balance up these factors based on your own needs.
Personally, I think that Epson are the best in the market. Not perfect, but - especially with the newer 9900 / 7900 / 4900 series - they've got most of it right.
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aeilkema posted Mon, 02 September 2013 at 8:26 AM
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind, I'm going to do more research before getting one anyway. I'm thinking of investing my tax return money into one, once I get it back somewhere this month.
Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722
Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(
Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk
shante posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 4:04 PM
Sold a few prints of posted work at DeviantArt.
Someone saw my work there a few years ago and asked for submissions to their upcoming book: The Future of Erotic Fantasy Art and one of the pieces submitted was actually included which was way cool for me.
You can see that piece here if you like:
http://shantetoo.deviantart.com/art/Sssssnake-85703628
"""""""TASTEFUL NUDE ART WARNING"""""""
A few things came from that (currently cotracting with a publisher of exercise books using Poser and a custome morphed V4 to illustrate exercises for). But, for the most part, not enough to bank on especially in this bleak economy which, I am convinced, is way worse even now than our fearless leaders are honest enough to admit to. But it makes for nice discussion around the coffee table and offers some bragging rights if you need that sort of thing (I Do! I Do! I Do!) LOL
shante posted Mon, 09 September 2013 at 4:16 PM
Quote - When making a buying decision for a large format printer you have to consider a number of factors; the current offerings from Epson, HP and Canon will all produce beautiful prints, but you'll need to consider ink costs, paper handling, quality of included software, cost and ease of servicing, and so on. You'll need to balance up these factors based on your own needs.
Personally, I think that Epson are the best in the market. Not perfect, but - especially with the newer 9900 / 7900 / 4900 series - they've got most of it right.
The problem with the Epson (and I have gone through three of their general consumer models) is the cost of the ink cartridges and their unwillingness to allow the consumer to use generic lower cost inks in them by implementing a chip in the cartridge that disallows that. Also, the heads always block up and are hard to get to and therefore almost impossible to remedy. All three of my printers were discarded because i could not for the life of me get the injector heads to unclog. I am not sure if this holds true in the pro level models but in either case though the print quality is gorgeous even at the general consumer level, I will never buy an Epson printer again.
Having worked in a grande format ink jet printing environment I have first hand experience with the hassle of maintenance of the equipment and all the time it took to keep them running right. The HP line was a good work horse and fairly easy to maintain and offered on the better grade papers made for it, photo quality prints.
If you have limited bucks, you might want to find a good printer in your area who does good custom work and just print what you need there without having to import all the hassle and cost overhead to get the printers yourself...unless of course you want to go into the business of doing other peoples' work then by all means go for it. The cost of the prints, and you might be able to contract a deal in cost for a guaranteed in quantities per run, rolling the cost into the final prices++ of the sale of each print. A perfectly acceptable methd of pricing for prints.