estherau opened this issue on Oct 03, 2013 · 53 posts
estherau posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 7:26 PM
Attached Link: V4WMAS
This one does not require any special things to make the clothes work. very occasionally one might have to copy joint zones.However AlfaseeD is not happy with the quality of this product so they have not released it themselves.
They do not want to be emailed about problems with this product.
They did all the weightmaps themselves and did not use daz data in product.
It's a pose injection and of course you need the original V4 to make it work.
Anyway this V4 weightmapped version, takes hair and clothes, and also the body parts scale much better than the non-weight mapped orignial V4.
And of course there are no more annoying magnets all over the place.
There are no render restrictions.
Have fun.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
estherau posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 7:32 PM
Oh yes, forgot to mention, no funny round elbows on this one.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
seachnasaigh posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 7:47 PM
Thanks to AlfaSeeD for releasing it, and to you, Esther, for hosting & posting. 
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basicwiz posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 8:36 PM
Wow!
Talk about a major improvement! At first testing, it appears to preform better than the V4WM we've had for a year or so, and is much easier to use!
Kudos to all concerned!
nobodyinparticular posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 9:43 PM
Thank you, and Alfaseed.
Eric Walters posted Thu, 03 October 2013 at 11:16 PM
Cool! Thanks Esther and Alfaseed!
monkeycloud posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 1:59 AM
Cool, thanks Esther and Alfaseed! :)
mauk posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 2:39 AM
Thank you Alfaseed !!!!!!
toastie posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 7:05 AM
Thanks! I've never actually bothered to use a weight mapped V4 (although I do have the other version), but you never know when it might come in handy :)
wimvdb posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 8:15 AM
It is a one click solution - Select your figure (with or without your morphs applied) and do the INJ pose. Easy enough to try out
WandW posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 8:59 AM
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WandW posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 9:00 AM
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WandW posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 9:01 AM
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fonpaolo posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 10:56 AM
Only a question:
Does It only works in P Pro 2014?
P9 user here...
wimvdb posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 11:11 AM
It should work in P9 as well since it only adds the weightmaps. The script driving the inject does not use any P10 specific code as far as I know.
I have not tried it though
Just give it a try and let us know
booksbydavid posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 12:22 PM
Nice surprise! Thanks for this.
WandW posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 2:02 PM
Playing around with clothes fitting, some shoes show polethrough at the heel and lower instep. This can be fixed by setting the Toe_scaleZ of the shoe's foot actor to 0.97 in the Joint Editor...
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WandW posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 2:26 PM
Can this rig be modified or distributed?
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wimvdb posted Fri, 04 October 2013 at 2:34 PM
It is free for all to use.
Modification - not sure about distribution of the modiciations.
If AlfaSeeD wants to update it and fix errors, it would be better if there is only one version available. Send me a PM and we can discuss this
Ometeotl posted Sat, 05 October 2013 at 6:44 AM
Thank you for the headsup!
And if someone would create a M4WM there would be a very renderer in front of this screen sigh
hborre posted Sat, 05 October 2013 at 12:29 PM
No progress has been on a M4WM just yet, I afraid.
wimvdb posted Sat, 05 October 2013 at 6:19 PM
Looks pretty good
For a full render see my gallery
arrow1 posted Sat, 05 October 2013 at 10:09 PM
Many thanks to Esther and AlfsSeed for being involved in this wonderful product. Cheers
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adzan posted Mon, 07 October 2013 at 3:29 PM
Is the AlfaseeD V4 weightmaped figure still available
The site has been displaying a message that the download has been deactivated for 48 hours since the weekend for me
goldie posted Mon, 07 October 2013 at 4:31 PM
Quote - Is the AlfaseeD V4 weightmaped figure still available
The site has been displaying a message that the download has been deactivated for 48 hours since the weekend for me
ditto here...
Byrdie posted Mon, 07 October 2013 at 8:07 PM
Site says it should be back for download in a week. Maybe they are working on a new version? Hope so, it looks really good.
RorrKonn posted Tue, 08 October 2013 at 1:19 AM
When does the week start and ends ?
At one time Aerysoul only released there morph might have been called Alice ?
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adzan posted Tue, 08 October 2013 at 9:02 AM
Pershaps I shouldn't have asked and it would have stayed at 48 hours lol
hborre posted Tue, 08 October 2013 at 9:32 AM
Alice was a limited time annual event; should not be compared to the WMV4 release which is a freebie.
WandW posted Tue, 08 October 2013 at 12:19 PM
Alice is a freebie now (at least her body morph is)
http://alfaseed.deviantart.com/art/Alice-367046756
The full character is now at RDNA...
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andolaurina posted Wed, 09 October 2013 at 6:19 PM
Esther & Wim, will you be putting her up again soon? :)
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JoePublic posted Wed, 09 October 2013 at 9:12 PM
EClark1894 posted Wed, 09 October 2013 at 9:36 PM
Quote - While she's being revised, I hope people don't mind a small suggestion: Front: V4 default. Middle: V4-WM/AlfaSeed Back: V4-LOD 17.000 polygon LowResolution (Weightmapped by me. Original V4 joint centers. No JCMs, no smoothing mags, no helper bones. Subdivided once) IMO the butt could use a little more bulge-map "compression" and there is also an unsightly lump on the inner thighs. The thigh/hip fold could be smoother, too. While I happily admit it's easier weightmapping a low res LOD mesh, I think the changes I suggest wouldn't be too hard to make to the high res V4, too. And, yes, I know it's an extreme pose, but that's when you see rigging problems the most. ;-)
Well, to be fair, you put most real life women in that pose and something may snap.
WandW posted Thu, 10 October 2013 at 4:41 AM
The "fin butt" I noted in my render of the bodysuit is a result of the thigh side-to-side bend. I've stopped playing with the rigging since another version appears to be in the works.
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LaurieA posted Thu, 10 October 2013 at 9:08 AM
Quote - > Quote - While she's being revised, I hope people don't mind a small suggestion: Front: V4 default. Middle: V4-WM/AlfaSeed Back: V4-LOD 17.000 polygon LowResolution (Weightmapped by me. Original V4 joint centers. No JCMs, no smoothing mags, no helper bones. Subdivided once) IMO the butt could use a little more bulge-map "compression" and there is also an unsightly lump on the inner thighs. The thigh/hip fold could be smoother, too. While I happily admit it's easier weightmapping a low res LOD mesh, I think the changes I suggest wouldn't be too hard to make to the high res V4, too. And, yes, I know it's an extreme pose, but that's when you see rigging problems the most. ;-)
Well, to be fair, you put most real life women in that pose and something may snap.
Give me a few rum and cokes and I bet I could do it 
EClark1894 posted Thu, 10 October 2013 at 3:34 PM
LaurieA posted Sat, 12 October 2013 at 10:18 AM
Quote - Damn, now I'm going to be wondering about that all night!
Waiting patiently for the link to go back live....it's tough. LOL She looks as tho she bends really nice :).
Laurie
diastrophus posted Mon, 14 October 2013 at 11:33 AM
Can't wait! She looks fantastic
adzan posted Mon, 14 October 2013 at 7:47 PM
Did the week get extended or was she withdrawn??
estherau posted Tue, 15 October 2013 at 6:36 PM
I've heard nothing from daz which I assume means all okay, and I messaged them again on their help forum to see what they thought but they have not answered me. So I only have had one reply for them saying they were looking into it, and you're right we're getting on for tw weeks now.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
estherau posted Tue, 15 October 2013 at 6:36 PM
I've heard nothing from daz which I assume means all okay, and I messaged them again on their help forum to see what they thought but they have not answered me. So I only have had one reply for them saying they were looking into it, and you're right we're getting on for tw weeks now.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
estherau posted Tue, 15 October 2013 at 6:37 PM
she does scale very nicely, even the hip and the z axis for chest say, arm length, etc
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
adzan posted Tue, 15 October 2013 at 8:27 PM
? didn't realise daz were involved.
If the AS weight mapped figure doesn't use any daz ip - ie daz joint info etc - then wouldn't it have been covered by the same Daz announcement that they issued when the last weight mapped V4 was made?
rowlando posted Tue, 15 October 2013 at 8:36 PM
watching the space for download availability
cheers
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WandW posted Tue, 15 October 2013 at 8:54 PM
Quote - ? didn't realise daz were involved.
If the AS weight mapped figure doesn't use any daz ip - ie daz joint info etc - then wouldn't it have been covered by the same Daz announcement that they issued when the last weight mapped V4 was made?
DAZ has revised thier EULA since the Poser Place V4WM was released. It is now more liberal about redistribution of derivatives, so long as a purchased DAZ product is required to use them...
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estherau posted Wed, 16 October 2013 at 6:29 AM
Yes, i see nothing in the EULA that says the wmV4 is wrong. I never thought daz would take so long to reply though.
Sorry you all have to wait. Anyone who has it already can of course use it, as it is just your own V4 that you own anyway.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
WandW posted Wed, 16 October 2013 at 6:51 AM
DAZ likely has better things to do. If it is a weight pose injection, or via Poser Place script there is obviously no issue, nor is there if it is distrubuted at an encoded cr2, as Joe Public and Shuckky did. Arduino has been distributing his V4 products as plain cr2s...
Here's the salient section from the license; last three paragraphs...
E. Terms of Use. User may (i) access, use, copy and modify the Content in the creation and presentation of animations and renderings, and (ii) incorporate two dimensional images (including two dimensional images that simulate motion of three dimensional objects) derived from the Content in other works and publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense such combined works; provided that User may not in any case: (a) separately publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense any Content or any part thereof; or (b) publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense renderings, animations, software applications, data or any other product from which any Content, or any part thereof, or any substantially similar version of the Content can be separately exported, or extracted into any re-distributable form or format. Subject to the foregoing limitations, and the rights, if any, of third parties in or to the objects represented by the Content, User may copy, distribute, and/or sell User’s animations and 2-D renderings derived from the Content. All other rights with respect to the Content and their use are reserved by DAZ and its PAs.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, DAZ wishes to encourage user expansion of the catalog of Content available to users. Therefore, User may also access, use, copy, and modify the Content stored on such computers in the creation of one or more derived or additional works provided that:
1. any derived or additional works are designed to require or encourage the use of Content available through the online DAZ store either by (i) requiring the use of such Content to function, or (ii) allowing only limited function when not used in conjunction with Content from the online DAZ store; and
2. upon receipt of a written request from DAZ, User will immediately cease any and all distribution of the derived works User has created from the Content licensed from DAZ, if DAZ has determined, at its sole discretion, that (i) the derived work is substantially similar to or is a clone of existing Content; or (ii) the derived work fails to require the use of Content available through the online DAZ store.
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estherau posted Mon, 21 October 2013 at 6:32 PM
Our link has been reactivated. Get your weightmapped V4 now!!!
From DAZ:-
Thank you for your patience. The usage you have proposed is acceptable.
Please let me know if you have any questions about this issue. If you have a different question or issue, please create a new ticket. Thank you.
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
rowlando posted Mon, 21 October 2013 at 6:52 PM
Thank you
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LaurieA posted Mon, 21 October 2013 at 7:22 PM
Whoohoo! :)
Laurie
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Yay, I already had it, but now I can keep it
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Morana posted Mon, 21 October 2013 at 8:00 PM
Can't wait to give this a try! Thank you!
adzan posted Tue, 22 October 2013 at 5:31 PM
looking foward to trying her, Thank you
