Nicola678122 opened this issue on Feb 19, 2014 · 11 posts
Nicola678122 posted Wed, 19 February 2014 at 9:40 AM
I'm a slightly more experienced neophyte than I was, but still know next to nothing...
Can I use Poser 10 to create clothing? How does one start?
I have some items, just plain simple pieces that I need, and have been unable to find anywhere (A Greek chiton and himation (2 separate pieces like what you see on the ancient Greek statues in a simple home-spun fabric, nothing fancy), a sarong, and a shemagh or hijab). I have found a sarong but it is not what I'm looking for, it's of a modern design for frolicking at the beach, too open. And the closest I've found to a shemagh is what looks like a Balaclava.
Therefore I would like to try my hand at designing my own, but I have no idea if Poser 10 has that capability...
Thanks
Knickers
PhilC posted Wed, 19 February 2014 at 10:14 AM
This may help with creating clothing within Poser.
http://www.philc.net/BasicClothing_page1.php
The aim of the scripts is to enable the novice user to make quite acceptable simple clothing in a very short time without a vast degree of skill.
I would also suggest that you get and become familiar with a 3D modeling application that you can use to either adapt existing models (as made by the above for example), or create your own from scratch.
Be prepared for a learning curve, it is not easy, at least I did not find it so. However if I can do it then I'm thinking pretty much anyone else can too :)
My current 3D modeling application of choice is Blender.
http://www.blender.org
Hope that helps.
Nicola678122 posted Wed, 19 February 2014 at 6:05 PM
Right now I'm going through all of the video tutorials looking for anything clothing related.
But there's so much other stuff to learn, lighting, and how to create a scene. I love this: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/full.php?image_id=2510944
and would love to be able to do something similar, though I'm sure I'll never be up to Shozai's standard, they have done a beautiful job.
Knickers
hborre posted Wed, 19 February 2014 at 6:15 PM Online Now!
Pacing yourself and selectively concentrate individual aspects of modeling and rendering will be more rewarding in the long run than trying to learn it all within a short time. Grasp the fundamentals and comfortably proceed as you master each level.
I've been at this for quite some time and I still haven't attempted modeling yet.
rokket posted Wed, 19 February 2014 at 11:27 PM
I do modeling, but I can tell you, as hborre said, master the simple before you move on. I have been modeling for more than a year and I barely have scratched the surface of what it takes to make really high quality, realistic things.
Look into a modeling program that you can afford. There are a lot of them out there.
A Greek chiton is a lot more complicated than you think. Sure, in real life you can make one out of a bed sheet, but modeling one is someyhing else.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
Nicola678122 posted Thu, 20 February 2014 at 12:26 AM
I decided I wanted to try doing some clothing creation from scratch so I watched this video:
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/videopro/index.php?View=Y&video_id=186
repeatedly, over and over again, while I tried to duplicate corinthianscori's success in Poser 10. Even though the video was done using Poser 6, as near as I could tell the same functionality is present in Poser 10 so I decided to try it. Despite repeated attempts I was unable to get past the Cloth Simulation. This is the best I've been able to do:
I've tried parenting the ball to body, hips, abdomen, thighs, etc and the is the best I've been able to get. It is supposed to morph into a miniskirt. Can anyone tell me what's wrong? It appears that the back of the mini skirt is ending up front too, as though it is not being mapped correctly to Alyson's body.
Thanks...
Knickers
Nicola678122 posted Thu, 20 February 2014 at 12:45 AM
I understand what you say hborre and rokket, but even my floundering around is teaching me a lot about running Poser. I'm old fashioned, what I would really like to have is a good, printed manual, so I could look up and see what these millions of controls actually do, instead of trying to find out by trial and error.
Do people use modellers to create everything? People, clothes, props, scenes, etc.?
Knickers
piersyf posted Thu, 20 February 2014 at 1:23 AM
Considering a chiton is essentially rectangles of cloth held with brooches, I might recommend a tutorial set called 'fun with flat things'. It will certainly help your learning in the cloth room too.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/fun-with-flat-things/89242
Currently on sale, it seems!
hborre posted Thu, 20 February 2014 at 8:36 AM Online Now!
Youtube is littered with many 3D tutorials, some good, some better than others. But to answer the question, yes, other 3D modeling programs are better than using Poser. There are more tools for manipulating the mesh available and, with some apps, the ability to create UV mapping for texturing. Another important aspect you must consider if you want to easily change colors and materials in clothing.
Nicola678122 posted Thu, 20 February 2014 at 8:39 AM
Quote - Considering a chiton is essentially rectangles of cloth held with brooches, I might recommend a tutorial set called 'fun with flat things'. It will certainly help your learning in the cloth room too.
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/fun-with-flat-things/89242
Currently on sale, it seems!
Thanks piersyf, I'll do that!
Knickers
Nicola678122 posted Thu, 20 February 2014 at 8:41 AM
Quote - Youtube is littered with many 3D tutorials, some good, some better than others. But to answer the question, yes, other 3D modeling programs are better than using Poser. There are more tools for manipulating the mesh available and, with some apps, the ability to create UV mapping for texturing. Another important aspect you must consider if you want to easily change colors and materials in clothing.
That's just great! Something else to learn! lol :rolleyes:
Knickers