As Roxie seems to become more popular?

I"ll have some free time shortly, and want to build some free clothing for the poor girl.
Last month, I put 5 items here in freestuff, but they where my personal idea.

So? Question :
What clothing would you like to see for Roxie?
Post a photo down below, and I"ll build it, and put it here in free stuff.

Secondly :
You want them as separate objects? Or "one click" loads as my freestuff was before.

Best regards and happy Posering,
Tony

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Clothing? Hmmm ... like her better nekkid. :lol:
(jk - but couldn't resist)

Remember ... "With Poser, all things are possible, and poseable!"

cheers,

dr geep ... :o]

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@geep**
Looks like Roxie was right then, she has the guys pretty much sussed :biggrin:

@vilters
She told me the other day she wants some "figure-huggin' cotton hotpants", vintage style with the high waistline. She's not a follower and doesn't want to be like everyone else. She reckons cotton hotpants are the next best thing to being naked, and wouldn't want to deprive men of her sex appeal just because she's wearing clothes.

She also pointed out that if anyone tries to fob her off with one of Victoria's seconds, they'd better be a faster runner than she is. If the look she had on her face when she said it was anything to go by, I'd say she meant it.

:woot:

I just googled "cotton hotpants" and that shows 1.000 different styles.
Show a pic of what you have in mind, and I"ll have a go.

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Already tried, but the *only* website that sold them has removed them now. If I recall these were hand-made specials or something. I managed to find just two of the four images they had of the hotpants, but they're only small previews and unfortunatley, the all-important front and 3/4 views are missing.

Anyway, you can probably picture the front, just don't forget the all-important camel-toe.

She never said so, but I think she'd look cool in something like this as well. To me, that looks very "Roxie" and so does the hair.

Strange, utterly strange ! ! !

Everybody complaining that she has no wardrobe, and only 2 projects from a single Roxie user?

Come on, do not be shy.
Give me a chalenge to tinker with.

OR? ?

Did you ALL become V4-V5-V6-V7 vendors? ? ? LOL !!!!!!!

THAT must be it.
Everybody becomes a vendor. LOL.

No customers left any more, even for free-stuff. LOL.

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Clothing is great, but they also need morphs as well. I have a lot of clothes that were modelled in a way that opening them was not possilbe without a lot of mods to the wire frame.

We need to keep Geep (and many others) happy, so the clothes should to be able to come off as well.

This picture just wouldn't be the same if her pants were buttoned.... or if the shirt wasn't pulled part way up.

She has been judged... lol... Guessing 36D or so....

Morphs for partially buttoned are nice as well.

Modeling them so they can be subdivided and opened would also get my vote. Doesn't really matter what they are.

But since you asked here are some other ideas.

Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

**
Puts on best movie voice-over voice**

It's fear ... vilters ... fear.

Not since the dawn of time has there been such a dangerous request put upon mankind. Suggestions not to her liking could cause the forum population to start dropping one by one, and all without trace.

No man, that's no man, has the balls to face the potential wrath of Roxie.
(Apart from us three I mean).

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**
@shvrdavid
**Nice fence-babe :woot:

Have to say this forum is a lot more enjoyable than the DAZ forums were in that respect!

Shoes - of all kinds.

It is easy to convert clothing over to Roxie, as is hair (via Netherworks Hair Control System), but shoes are a no go at this point.

3 of my free stuf items have shoes or boots included in the set.

**TUTORIAL
**
TIP and TRICK. ATTENTION, Roxie getting MAD : Shoes from other figures for Roxie.
I build my own but if you want to use other figures shoes on Roxie? ?

Step 1
Delete the cr2 or pp2 or whatever.

All you need is the object file and the texture.

You will tear hairs and more trying to get any cr2 to work on any onter figure. it just is NOT worht the ime invested.
Below takes about 10 minutes and guarantees succes.

Step2
Load THE OBJECT file in Blender and adapt the object file to Roxie. (use Roxie default as she is in her folder. (expand obz to obj to use her in Blender)

"Fit" the shoes to Roxie in Blender (pretty simple operation after you did it one or twice.)

TRICK => Work with ONE shoe, then let Blender build the mirror. LOL. USE the appication to do the hard work for you.

Export both shoes as a single object file.

Start Poser
Load Roxie => Zero Roxie
Import object file that came from blender

PP2014 users => Open Fitting room

New fitting, load the shoes (that are a imported obj)
Load Roxie as goal or target

DO NOT FIT.

You fitted the shoe in Blender remember?
Direct => create figure.

Select the bones from hip to- and including toe.

Morphs if you like them
Autogroup
Zero
Give a name and done.

Other Poser versions will have to use the setup room.

Damm, Sorry rox, it takes ten times longer to write it all doxwn here.
But it also takes a LOT less time because fiddling with the cr2 or pp2 to get it to work are a nightmare.
Goto material room, set the nodes, and save to library.

Done. On a good day, 7 to 15 minutes for simple shoes - boots.

Back to clothing..

LOL Oh, dear, oh dear, oh dear. LOL.

Exactly what I was afraid of. Roxie being a teen age girl, sorry but the clothing stays on.

Style, sexy, provocative as teens do, OK, but oh, no... VETO against slutty wear.

Oh, and default Roxie has breasts (finally) no balloons. OEF !

ha-ha-ha-, OK, I"ll see what I can do.

PS Roxie is Poser10 and PP2014, so you can put any morphs in the clothing you like at will.

You want opening and closing? ?
yamma, yamma, yamma, that's asking a lot for freestuff.....

Shit ;
Roxie knodded OK, but only a littlely, littely, bitty, OK?

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Edit of the above.
in step2 . WELD the object file. You do not need the old groups.

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vilters, I don't know what you're taking, or where you got it, but it's strong stuff :-P

Regards the stuff shvrdavid posted, I wouldn't call that slut-ware personally. I think that denim skirt thingummy would look quite cool on Roxie actually, looks a bit tomboyish, and judging by a lot of the comments on here about Roxie, she's a bit of a tomboy anyway.

If thats what she's seen as then why not, accent her tomboyishness (if that's even a word).

When ever I see those ballons squeezed together like that I piity the woman that has to carry them around.

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No worries, I ll have a go at all of them requested.= when my free time comes.

Butactually was hoping for every day clothing.

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http://www.pinterest.com/mrsixties/50s-women-s-fashion/

I'll take 1 of each......

This would be nice....

And when you tire of them, Rex could use something like this....

You're into the '50s, I see.

Quote -
You want opening and closing?

Technically you would not have to include the morphs, just model it so it can be opened.

Up to you what you what to do, just adding suggestions..

Many Poser clothes are made a lot like this.

This shirt has 2 buttons on it, but it does not open up any more than it already is.

The seam in the front is sewed shut.

Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

The era isn't covered very well in Poserdom, and what has been made isn't all that accurate.

The era has a smart, sophisicated look for adults, whether they are 20 or 60. Try doing something like that with later eras.

My Roxie is very happy with her business suit from Smith Micro, but she would like a more feminine blouse.

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Well, this is kind of elaborate for a freebie but it's not slutwear.

http://www.lenora-gewandungen.de/proj-fan-wildelfengewandeljisijah.html

I'm looking primarily at the second thumbnail under the main picture on the rigt side.

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This would be the one?

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normal american police clothes,

prison clothes (not old fashioned stripey but modern) including scrubs type

combat gear (not sci fi or old fashioned)

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I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!

Police?
Police?
Police?

Prison?
Prison?
Prison?

Running other way. LOL.

Ester dear? Half your HD must be full of Police / Prison clothing by now...

Aha, you want to put the Police in the prison? Ok, then I'll give ya a hand.

Want my adress to send the airline ticket to? Euh, no, disregard.
Let them first find out what happened to MH370.

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One crashed today just near where I work.

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I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!

while you are there, are you able to morph her chest shape too? The side of the middle of her chest sticks out to the sides too much I think.

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I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!

OK, found the article on the Cessna 206 Para plane.
My prayers are with them.

My Rox ( private ) Roxie figure has better and most important, a thinner chest area. Over all Roxie BMI is too high to be super looking.

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ooh 0130hrs here. I better go to bed.

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I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!

- 1980"s aerobics outfit (a high-cut swimsuit with leggings).

shirt and long skirt combination as worn by a variety of female youth organisations (scouts, BDM, FDJ,...) ... and female police officers. Mostly includes some sort of tie and/or belt.

Quote - Well, this is kind of elaborate for a freebie but it's not slutwear.

http://www.lenora-gewandungen.de/proj-fan-wildelfengewandeljisijah.html

I'm looking primarily at the second thumbnail under the main picture on the rigt side.

That's a great looking site. Bookmarked. I'll be using it for reference on future projects. Thanks for the link. :)

~Shane

A flight attendant, pick your style :

http://www.uniformfreak.com/uniforms.html

An airline pilot would also be possible of course.

Hey vilters, what was that you were moaning about, no response? :biggrin:
You spoke too soon, you have your work cut out now!

Haha.

The easy part is finished.

If you would like it dynamic?
I could upload to freestuff right now.
But am gonna finetune and make conforming.

Ps : all Materials are procedurals.

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Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=72621

> Quote - - 1980"s aerobics outfit (a high-cut swimsuit with leggings). > >

No need to reinvent the wheel, DarthJ. Roxie's Bodysuit has material zones that can be made invisible.

Last update for today.

Materials are procedurals and can all be set seperadly in the Diffuse_Color.
( Grr, the green is too bright on this screen. )

A day or 2 for checks and it will be in free-stuff.

Correct EClark.
Roxie comes with a developpers suit.
So the undies, and the Swinsuit- Leggings can easily be made by any end user.

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(Click to enlarge) Another "last one". LOL.

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Sleeves, skirt, and the colors. => T o m o r r o w !

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Looking good vilters!

Some things are easy to explain, other things are not........ <- Store -> <-Freebies->

How about a suit of armor for Rex? I'd do it, but I can't fit any more projects on my schedule at the moment.

@ eclark 1894 (oh dear, that was a long time ago)

Att to what you wish for, you might get it.
LOL

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Hey, that looks great. Thanks.

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Anybody has a special urgent request before I start a next project?

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Thought I'd share. Thought this outfit would be good for a character for a story I'm working on.

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Hello RedPhantom, glad to see the outfit being used.

WHAW, already 93 downloads this morning.
WAAAAAYYYYY more then expected!

I know that building for Roxie is not the most rewarding, as it's not the most popular of figures, but she certaily has potential.
Sitemail send also.

Happy Posering, Tony

Anybody has another special request?

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Yeah, I still want those 70's hotpants, fully textured with stripes (in vintage colours as shown) and for them to have modeled folds where they would 'crease' and 'pull' due to movement and body shape.

@ Pumeco
You have Zbrush. You can build those hotpants in 10 minutes time if you need them.

I wanna help the end users that do not have the tools or time to build the clothing they require for a project and am up for a chalenge. Those simple shorts are not a chalenge.
Single object, procedural tile for the color, fitting- or setup room. Thats 15 minutes total.

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Bloody hell, you have more faith in me than I do, vilters!!!

Can't think of anything else off hand apart from this "Parajumper Jacket". Can't speak for anyone else but I think it looks very cool, and Roxie strikes me as cool by default, so such a jacket would suit her.

It's an everyday jacket that looks way cool and isn't what everyone else wears. Women look cool in those no matter what, and if you fancy a challenge, well, there's a fair bit of stuff to deal with on that one!

Other than that, sorry, haven't a clue what else to suggest.

I thank you for all your freebies and for the info I've gained reading threads with your input Vilters, but I must agree with you on the shorts. I'm no content maker but even I've made a pair of shorts and a T-shirt or two in my time. Each takes less than 10 minutes start to finish.

No Zbrush here but the Morph Tool in PP2014 should make the folds and creases I would think.

To be honest, when I mentioned the shorts I had no idea how detailed he was prepared to make the models. I agree the shorts would be easy to do in basic form, but not so easy to model with proper topologised folds etc.

Anyway, no worries on the shorts, not important. I was just bumping his thread to help him kickstart it really.

Actually, I am a little dissapointed about the lack of interest for Roxie clothing.

I was looking forward to help end users that want to use Roxie but find no suitable clothing for the lady for their projects.

V4 has the slut market covered, DAZ does the fairy, super hero, and monster thing, and we realy do not need the 5.000 + bikini's or more already available and transferrable to Roxie through the fitting room.

As far as detail goes?
I build for full body renders (as seen in my promo's)
I do not build for close-up renders as they are less then 1% of all renders made.
They can be done, but then you would have to adapt the values of bump and displacement to suit the close-up.

And I use procedural shader setups limiting the use to Poser. => Roxie being a Poser figure.

Folds and creases.
Poser reads bump, normal, and displacement maps. And they can be build in the object file.
That gives you 4 ways to build creases.
However.
I do not like build-in folds on undies for multiple reasons.
The most important being, put some pants over them, and the undies folds will poke through.
In real life the pants would squeeze the undies folds flat, but this is not happening in 3D.
For a simple object like the undies, it would be to much work, with too much trouble afterwards.

Have a nice day all. Tony

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Well, you're a better modeler than me Tony, but I always had a great deal of interest in the freebies that I made for Roxie and the other Poser figures. Problem is, you won't hear from everybody in the forums so you can't necessarily go by that. Make your freebie and post it in the Freestuff and ShareCG. That's where you'll see a better response.

This is a perfect example of why I think such things as Genesis, and technology to convert clothing across meshes is a very bad idea.

The only reason you don't need to model a bikini or whatever else exists, is because it can be converted easily. Both DAZ and Smith Micro are shooting themselves in the foot and lessening the need for content vendors every time they release a technology that makes it easy to reuse the content people already own. Surely that's no way to breed a healthy content market.

It just seems outrageously stupid to do that in programs which rely on content to keep them alive. It can be likened to cutting your own wrist and then wondering why you could die because of it.

@ Pumeco

No, SM never focused on the content creators department.

They focus on the app, and provide the tools for the end user to cenvert existing content to other figures.
But with little or no content coming from SM , that leaves another problem for end users that have special needs. They have to search to find something convenient for the project at hand.

Hense the purpose of the initial question.

Now, I have an idea to "arm" Rex and Roxie against the new arrival at SM: Dawn.

But this is a complicated and long project as I have to build it for both, Rex and Roxie.

But when finished?
It will be free.

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well my Roxie devkit should be out fairly soon at Hive, if it isnt already. I hope the shoe bases should make it easier for people to make a variety of shoes for the figure more easily. The kits are good for freebie use so I really hope that it encourages more freebies for some of the less supported figures.

I figure some vendors are intimidated by the weightmaps, since its not technology most are accustomed to coming from v4. Its not all that tricky once you get used to it. The important part is to make sure to let poser regenerate the weightmaps, which means using the setup or fit room to copy the figures rigging to the clothing. Almost every other method ends up with some weird errors.

There are a number oflists for basic wardrobe for women but this is a list of sets I made ages ago that might be inspirational and a good base for figure support

Basicwear 1 - bodysuit (leotard, leggings, stockings, hose, socks)

Basicwear 2 - tshirt - long/short sleeve, turtleneck, jeans (bootcut, skinny, slim cut, relaxed) basic boot, glasses / sunglasses

Basicwear 3 - tshirt / tank / cami top, miniskirt, sandal, string pearls
stud Earrings (earring backs)

BasicWear 4 - suit - button down shirt, blazer, formal skirt, formal slacks, pumps, watch

BasicWear 5 - tight dress, clutch purse, high heels, bangles, hoop earrings

Basicwear 6 - 'MFD' style dress, overskirt, standing collar, puff sleeves, long sleeves

Basicwear 7 - Lingerie - bra, panties, boyshorts, thong, garterbelt, stockings, camisole

LM

I'll buy the shoe kit if it will tell me the secret to making a high heel conform to a flat foot.

Eclark

Theres tricks to it .. with shoes you have a few methods to deal with high heels. Methods 2 and 4 produce models that can be converted, if thats an issue for you.

1 Model to a posed foot, group shoe to shin part and supply foot pose to put the foot in the shoe. PROS- easier to get a smooth shape. CONS- Requires users to read directions

2 Model the shoe as you like, then warp it to fit the flat foot and rig. Supply a high heel pose for it to be shaped suitably. PROS- works for genesis CONS - End user needs to pose the foot into a high heel pose, many poses are already built that way

3 Model the shoe as you like, being sure to complete cover the toes and foot parts. Group the shoe to the shin, and have the user turn off visibility on toes, and foot. PROS - Easiest CONS - Requires user to read directions

4 Model to the foot as is. Pose toes and foot bent for high heels PROS- easiest for end users CONS - Very difficult for the modeler to figure out how it is shaped

oh and the olde Prop method which nobody uses anymore

5 make each shoe as a separate prop. Load and parent to the foot. Pose the figure into the shoe.

And yes I go over all the methods in somewhat moredetail in the tutorials for all the female sets that have high heel shapes and poses. No I didnt make high heels for mikey and so far nobody has asked lol

Generally shorter heels are easier, v4's bent foot does nicely for a 2 to 3 " heel. Flat footed figures are easy to do 1 " heels. Any more extreme than that and you start having to do all sorts of hoop jumping to get things to fit.

I've been experimenting with converting a pair of high heeled thiugh high boots made with technique 1. The v4 one rigged up fine, and I got the reshaping done to the obj for dawn and aly2 via the morph brush pretty ok. But the rigging is being tempermental. I think my weight maps are complain that I went and welded verts on the obj outside of poser. So I think I may have to reimport and rerig to regenerate the wm. Isn't poser fun ?

LM

Glitterati3d showed me your first method I believe and for the most part I've been doing heels about 2 or 3 inches tall. Although I really want to do a 4 to 6 inch heel for Roxie, which, to be honest, I don't think she can wear without a foot morph to arch her foot. I've actually done that though, so that's no longer a concern.

For the most part, except for a bra, I think i'm doing pretty good modeling wise.

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Quote - With Roxie, it's a far different story because ultimately you need converters for it, because the demand for her isn't there, due to her non-existent marketing rollout, problems with the rigging, eyelashes and bending, lack of morphs, and no backing by the parent company.

ERmmm, milkids anyone? Support? By the parent company? Third party? Slall we say, even though they've been around the block a time or two, almost non-existent.

Studio won't run in any computer I have, for what reason I'm not interested in finding out. End of gene thing discussion.

Doric

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

The Milkids weren't the only figures that DAZ never really got behind. David and Stephanie suffered from a lack of support, as did Sadie and the Girl. I don't know about Freak and She-Freak because frankly they held no appeal for me whatsoever. I don't think I have either of them in my runtime.

Still, I believe that people will use Roxie if more people would provide content for her. Granted, she'll never go toe to toe with V4, Dawn or Genesis, but given a chance I believe she can find a niche. Most people seem to see her as a teen. I've already got three outfits for her at CP, not to mention all the freebies I've done for her. Say what you like but that's more support than poor Luke had.

Quote -
ERmmm, milkids anyone? Support? By the parent company? Third party? Slall we say, even though they've been around the block a time or two, almost non-existent.

Actually that came down to the actual people buying items for it. Kids and teens don't sell beyond niche to have a dedicated figure, otherwise you would see more. That's far different from Roxie and Rex, who couldn't get more than two sentences on the Poser 10/2014 features page and you'd be hard pressed to find items specifically for them in the year they've been out. Still the milkids and teens came out with more morphs and clothing where you could get things on all the major stores.

Quote - Studio won't run in any computer I have, for what reason I'm not interested in finding out. End of gene thing discussion.

Doric

Not sure how that's even a good criteria for judging a technology, when many more people have no trouble.

Quote - > Quote -

ERmmm, milkids anyone? Support? By the parent company? Third party? Slall we say, even though they've been around the block a time or two, almost non-existent.

Actually that came down to the actual people buying items for it. Kids and teens don't sell beyond niche to have a dedicated figure, otherwise you would see more. That's far different from Roxie and Rex, who couldn't get more than two sentences on the Poser 10/2014 features page and you'd be hard pressed to find items specifically for them in the year they've been out. Still the milkids and teens came out with more morphs and clothing where you could get things on all the major stores.

You persist in comparing apples and oranges. Of course DAZ had morphs and clothes for the milkids when they came out. It was a product line. They'd be stupid NOT to have them ready if they expected a significant contribution to their bottom line. Rex and Roxie have no such expectation from SM.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote -

ERmmm, milkids anyone? Support? By the parent company? Third party? Slall we say, even though they've been around the block a time or two, almost non-existent.

Actually that came down to the actual people buying items for it. Kids and teens don't sell beyond niche to have a dedicated figure, otherwise you would see more. That's far different from Roxie and Rex, who couldn't get more than two sentences on the Poser 10/2014 features page and you'd be hard pressed to find items specifically for them in the year they've been out. Still the milkids and teens came out with more morphs and clothing where you could get things on all the major stores.

You persist in comparing apples and oranges. Of course DAZ had morphs and clothes for the milkids when they came out. It was a product line. They'd be stupid NOT to have them ready if they expected a significant contribution to their bottom line. Rex and Roxie have no such expectation from SM.

Well my post was in response to figure support, so I think it's pretty relevant. Because SM pretty much said "Here" with Rex and Roxie, with the list of issues that prevent real content development is pretty much why they are pretty much ignored by the masses... so much they got behind dawn for a mini promotion.

They've always been behind third party figures, so nothing has changed in that regard. But SM isn't a content provider. For the most part even the content that comes with the program have been provided by third party providers.

Quote - Well my post was in response to figure support, so I think it's pretty relevant. Because SM pretty much said "Here" with Rex and Roxie, with the list of issues that prevent real content development is pretty much why they are pretty much ignored by the masses... so much they got behind dawn for a mini promotion.

Just played with Vilters clothing, and I've given daz good money, and lots of it, for clothes that didn't work as well.

Dawn: gourd on a board on stilts. Had her, deleted, along with everything else that was in that package. SM did better with Roxie.

But Tony, the shoes in the Freetime, if you could separate them as their own figure, a lot of us would be very appreciative. Nice work all around, no issues I've found yet.

Doric.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

Quote - You persist in comparing apples and oranges. Of course DAZ had morphs and clothes for the milkids when they came out.

Not all of them. The YT had basically expression morphs but no shape morphs until just a few years ago. Matt and Maddie, still basically el-zip for support.

I agree with SM not expecting to add anything to the bottom line with Rex and Roxie, but providing them more to demonsrate the capabilites of Poser and the new features. But I think the developers of those two did one hell of a job and Hope SM gives them their heads to keep going.

I don't see Roxie as a teen figure, maybe between 18 and 15, but not a teen. As far as face morphs go, I think she works in the face room, although I've never felt the need to try it. That would replace a ton of morphs.

Doric.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

Quote - Still the milkids and teens came out with more morphs and clothing where you could get things on all the major stores.

KIndly steer me to this plethora of clothing.

Quote - Studio won't run in any computer I have, for what reason I'm not interested in finding out. End of gene thing discussion.

Doric

Not sure how that's even a good criteria for judging a technology, when many more people have no trouble.

Other people are not playing with my computer either, nor deciding which software has to go when there's a conflict somewhere. However, should you feel I should try it again, I'll be waiting for the new computer into which I can install only studio, should you feel generous. I also fail to see where two clicks of the mouse to load a figure is so much more difficult than spending hours trying and only reach a rough approximation of what I want, which isn't the V thing in any of her many iterations.

Doric.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

Quote - I don't see Roxie as a teen figure, maybe between 18 and 15, but not a teen. As far as face morphs go, I think she works in the face room, although I've never felt the need to try it. That would replace a ton of morphs.

Doric.

Make that between 18 and 25 not 15. Doric

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

Hey !!!!!!!!

This tread is about clothing for Roxie.

Not about DS/Poser, not about the non-existing support, but about clothing requests for the Roxie figure.

If anybody has a special Rex-Roxie clothing request, please post a picture, and I"ll see what I can do.

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Well, there's no hotpants but I see the stripes have had influence :biggrin:

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With suitable texturing, that workout set could make a good '65-'74 carhop uniform.

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@ Seachnasaigh

You just gave me a crazy idea....... Outfit is on a temporary hold.

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You making her some skates? Make her knee pads and a helmet too! I wanna see some roller derby!

Well I'm going to be making a Roxie version of the dress I'm working on now .. just finishing up Dawn's. Its an experiment, I'm making a v4, aly2, dawn and roxie version and seeing which sells better. Also a good way to work out the whole workflow on the process, see how much trouble it actually is to do a multi figure supoort run on a single item like this.

So far the only trouble I've been having with Roxie is the whole weightmapped figure issue - but that is just the same contraints as dealing with any poser weightmapped figure. The eyelashes-as-figure thing is just weird but there are reasons for and against it.

Bends better than some, less better than others. The rig is kind of confusing until you realise that loads of the parts are ghosts with no geometry. They exist just for bend fix reasons. I'm sure thats been causing vendors no end of trouble :)

Cute on load, which is nice considering some of the er .. less appealing ... faces SM has come up with over the years lol

I think 'booty shorts' is a more recent name for hotpants if you want to try google roulette

LM

I was just thinking, they do look like hotpants now that I've seen them from the rear without stripes.

@ pumeco
Glad you like the "old style hotpants", as shown above, but I modified them after your first comment. LOL.
Should be in freestuff in a day or 2.

Ha-ha-ha-, you have Zbrush, you can cut them out of the new version, the original is still there. LOL.

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Quote -The eyelashes-as-figure thing is just weird but there are reasons for and against it.

That was changed in the Rex/Roxie 1.1 update. No more eyelash figures. They're transmapped again.

~Shane

I'm beginning to think I might have missed a really important thread somewhere.

I didn't even know there was a Roxie 1.1, maybe that's why I'm having a lot of issues even with the latest SR, maybe it's the figure that's causing the issues.

Where do I get Roxie 1.1, was she part of the latest SR downloads?

Quote - Where do I get Roxie 1.1, was she part of the latest SR downloads?

I think so, yes.

It wasn't advertised very well, but the update came around SR3. either with it or just before it.

~Shane

Cheers Shane, I'm up to date already then and I was really hoping I wasn't!

The Obj files for Rex and Roxie are in CU1 update. If you go to the bottom of the page for updating Poser you will find two buttons that allow you to download the updated content (Mac/Win).

Please read the file that comes with it since the CR2 is overwritten and if you wish to keep using V1.0 of the figures you need to make a backup copy of them.

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Quote -
I'm beginning to think I might have missed a really important thread somewhere.

I didn't even know there was a Roxie 1.1, maybe that's why I'm having a lot of issues even with the latest SR, maybe it's the figure that's causing the issues.

Where do I get Roxie 1.1, was she part of the latest SR downloads?

Roxie 1.1 is is the content update.

BEFORE YOU DOWNLOAD......

The content updater overwrites the four Roxie, Roxie Casua. & Roxie Dev files (.pmd, png, xmp & crz)

MORPHS MADE FOR ROXIE 1.0 WILL NOT WORK WITH ROXIE 1.1.

I recommend renaming the Roxie folder Roxie 1.0. Then you should have both of them.

Thankyou both, will download it tonight and hope it's for the better then :-)

You also need to update scripts that call for Roxie 1.0 like Snarly's EZSkin and Netherworks' Hair Module.

To download the Content Updater, you have to download it as you did the program when you bought it. That requires the info you supplied before.

No worries, I stopped following my own tread and will not come to visit it again.

You have Z-brush pumeco, build your own.

Have a nice evening.

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This is not the Smith-Micro customer complaint forum.

There is nothing we can do about your discrepencies here. Smith-Micro has a customer service department you can take those complaints to.

The only thing posts like this do is continue to cause arguments.

I'm deleting all posts that derail this thread. I've already deleted a few threads the last few days that have dealt with similar issues and I will continue to do so.

~Shane

That's a bit rude, vilters.

That's the sort of drama queen comment a women would make if she watches far too many soap operas. My apologies for the dearailment, it was not intentional and I hope Shane will be kind enough to restore it for you, no harm done.

I even tried to help you kickstart it when you were moaning about lack of interest. I hardly think that puts me in a position for all this flak, dreailment or no derailment.

But whatever mate, whatever.

Sorry Shane, be my guest, please delete.
Ooops, he already has done :biggrin:

Now I just have to figure out why I can't log into my SM support account - lol

Quote - No worries, I stopped following my own tread and will not come to visit it again.

You have Z-brush pumeco, build your own.

Have a nice evening.

Vilters,

Please don't let the turn in your thread keep you from doing requests for Roxie. Between you and Eclarke, I think you're providing a valuable service to those that want to use Roxie in their renders.

But don't forget about Rex, as he has barely anything.

Shane: I forgot to say congrats earlier (heading out of the country for work in a few hours so I'm rather frazzled in preparations), but I think you're off to a good start... I love that you're not waiting hours to nip stuff in the bud. :)

I've just sent an apology to vilters for screwing-up his thread.

It would be really cool if Shane would delete everything back to where I asked about Roxie 1.1 so that his thread is totally untainted by the discussion. My apologies to all, it's just the way it progresssed from an innocent enough question, that's all.

So yeah, would be really cool if Shane were to use that button power he now has :-)

I've made a couple of things for Rex, too. But as with most males in the Poserverse, his stuff doesn't sell well. And at the time this stuff was free. It still is. But even with freestuff, people don't really support the males much. I've made stuff for P7 Kate that has left the stuff I made for Rex in the dust as far as downloads go.

Quote - > Quote - No worries, I stopped following my own tread and will not come to visit it again.

You have Z-brush pumeco, build your own.

Have a nice evening.

Vilters,

Please don't let the turn in your thread keep you from doing requests for Roxie. Between you and Eclarke, I think you're providing a valuable service to those that want to use Roxie in their renders.

Agreed! Vilters and EClarke and Pumeco have done more to bring positive attention to Roxie than I've ever seen elsewhere. I think it's an excellent trend. Don't stop now!

Heck, I've owned Stitch Witch for ages now, and I even decided it might be a lot of fun to download some of you guys' freebies and use them to learn how to texture clothing. I don't own Roxie. But the CR2's for the clothing still load perfectly well.

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QUOTE:*
"Agreed! Vilters and EClarke and Pumeco have done more to bring positive attention to Roxie than I've ever seen elsewhere. I think it's an excellent trend. Don't stop now!"

For a minute there I thought I was having mind blanks, I never made anything for Roxie so you must mean that interview. I should point out that I didn't really have any say in the matter, the look she gave me was a sort of 'do it or die' :-D

And I agree, vilters and Clarkie are doing an awesome job of spreading her name, the amount of downloads they get in such a short space of time is indication of that. Long may it continue!

Quote - *
QUOTE:*
"Agreed! Vilters and EClarke and Pumeco have done more to bring positive attention to Roxie than I've ever seen elsewhere. I think it's an excellent trend. Don't stop now!"

For a minute there I thought I was having mind blanks, I never made anything for Roxie so you must mean that interview. I should point out that I didn't really have any say in the matter, the look she gave me was a sort of 'do it or die' :-D

And I agree, vilters and Clarkie are doing an awesome job of spreading her name, the amount of downloads they get in such a short space of time is indication of that. Long may it continue!

Yep. The interview (and her continuing dialogue with you). You're really giving her quite a character. Edit: I mean, she's really decided to reveal her character to you (you charmer, you!). It's certainly entertaining.

Vilters and Clark are doing a great job. They just have to not let people's philosophical disagreements or criticisms get them down. I certainly don't agree with everything they say (me and vilters have been on opposites sides of some issues for a long time), but when I see someone do something good, I figure it's silly to be silent.

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Funny enough, I sent Roxie a message this morning, told her about vilters' mood swing. She said not to worry, just leave it with her, she knows exactly how to deal with vilters and asked me to post this:

Hey Tony, so you think you're gonna drop me from your development cycle?

Yeah right, listen, you know me by now, you can't just drop me like that. I mean it's not like I'm trying to blackmail you or anything (as if Roxie would do that), but if you stop my wardrobe, I'll tell everyone you make me do dirty poses in the viewport when you're fitting me up for new clothes.

Take no notice of pumeco, he might have ZBrush but he can't model for shit.
Stop whining and get on with my rags!

Later,
Rox

She better keep her lip zipped! I caught her sending this screen shot to the forum before i could stop her.

Yeah, that was a fun fitting session, must admit, and a cool result!

Not sure if I'll be seeing any more of vilters though, he's gone really quiet, hasn't even loaded me up for a fitting session today, not once. If I find out he's been fitting-out Victoria instead, there will be hell to pay, no kidding!!!

You guys basically need to chill so here's my favourite chill-track:
CLICK HERE TO CHILL - ROXIE STYLE

Yeah I know, my taste in music really "Rox", just like me!
Just makes everything better again.

Later,***
Rox

I don't mind passing stuff on for you, Roxie, but dammit I'm changing my password, I didn't even know about that last post!!!

"Waste of time, I have a custom-built keylogger on your system and I've rigged it up to transmit to my Runtime. I've linked each character of your password to a pose dial, so all I have to do is decode the result, I just watch those dials spin as you type it in, baby!

I can use your account whenever I feel like it.
I'm always one step ahead of you, get used to it, you're only human after all."

Later,
Rox"

Ah crap ... :unsure:

LOL. Fantastic!

Don't worry, Rox, vilters won't cheat on you ya with Vickie. I guarantee it. :D

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Hah, wouldn't put it past him :-D

BTW, for those in the US that wanted to (but can't) see the exact link Roxie posted above, I trust you all know how to get a UK proxy so that you can. But yeah, vilters is really holding out on this one, he's really stubborn, and Roxie is blaming me of course.

:-P

Got a question about something I'm working on for Roxie. These screen shots are just to give you a general idea of the question I'm asking and not the final product so...

What do you think? Tutu...?

...or dance skirt?

Both!

And leg warmers (for practice).

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I think she'll like that outfit. The only thing I'd be suspicious of is the fact that Roxie even does ballet. If she does ballet then I reckon she only does it to tease men. She's disappeared a few times and said it was only to kill-off a few more Vickies, but it I think I know where she's going now.

Ballet lessons.

Looks good, Clarkie, and it goes with out saying, would be cool to see some poses with it!

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Roxie Old Style Gym in freestuff.

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I just heared an almighty crash coming from Roxies Runtime, I think she just dropped something :woot:

You should see what is in the pipeline for Roxie AND Rex!

I discovered some "special" in the Fitting room & Weight Mapping last night.

This "discovery" IS a game changer for content creators and it will clearly be visible in the next sets for both Rex and Roxie.

They are teaming up to fight the new intruder.

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Good to see you back, Tony, and it sounds interesting regards the discovery, looking forward to seeing it!

I assume by "Intruder" you mean Dawn, but seriously, I don't think Roxie is in the least bit phased about Dawn, she doesn't see her as a threat at all, at least that's the impression I get.

Now here's something interesting that i did not know. Seems some tutus are made out of a kind of facbric named Tulle. I had to look that one up Tulle is a type of netting like fabric. I was thinking I would have to texture the tutu, but seems a shader would be more effective.

Don't forget to bump or displace it as well then.

If it's netting, makes it look more real when there's some edge to the pattern, especially stuff like that, which is like lace I suppose. Like they do when they render lingerie, that sort of thing.

Well, that's not the finished product. That's just a test run to see if I could do the shader.

Leg warmers added.

Quote - You should see what is in the pipeline for Roxie AND Rex!

I discovered some "special" in the Fitting room & Weight Mapping last night.

This "discovery" IS a game changer for content creators and it will clearly be visible in the next sets for both Rex and Roxie.

They are teaming up to fight the new intruder.

Glad to see you back. I'm sure Roxie is as well. I figured you would be unable to resist her charms. :D

Looks like very nice work, indeed. And as I said in another thread, you and EClarke are gonna make me buy Poser 10 just so I can really enjoy all this great work you guys are doing.

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Quote - Leg warmers added.

Sweet! That looks great.

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1980's aerobics.

Stripes, lots of pink and/or pastel colours (see any episode of Miami Vice).

Tight outfits for tight bodies, loose frills do not really fit in, so I made these unvisible.

Well, I couldn't quite pull the tutu off... yet, but I'm not giving up. I have some more work to do.

Here's the tutu with the shader that's not quite working.

Attached Link: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Mg-5782-2-445229007

BTW, Roxie is alive :biggrin:

Quote - BTW, Roxie is alive :biggrin:

I was about to say that's one hell of a photorealistic render. :D

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hihi , sorry not a render this time ;) hm, but a challenge ...

Quote - hihi , sorry not a render this time ;) hm, but a challenge ...

It says a lot about the community's abilities, though, that I might consider it possible, even for just a moment, that it was a render. :)

You're right. She'd make a great character for Roxie.

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Quote - ...or dance skirt?

Tutu and skirt always is good.

Just a note though - ribbons should be tied at the ankles. Those are much too high.

Quote - > Quote - ...or dance skirt?

Tutu and skirt always is good.

Just a note though - ribbons should be tied at the ankles. Those are much too high.

Dammit! I know happened too. When I looked at the images for reference, the Feet were extended, so the looked higher than they actually were. Thanks for the catch, although now I got go back and fix the damn things. Although I may only be able to supply the skirt. I can't seem to get the tutu right to save my life.

Is it the shaders that's the problem for the tutu? I've used Parrotdolphin's shear materials from the Medieval set before now for tutu layers and that's come out quite well. You need something that looks like fine net curtain, not too transparent.

I think it's all looking good though - even though I don't have Roxie to use it :(

> Quote - Is it the shaders that's the problem for the tutu? I've used Parrotdolphin's shear materials from the Medieval set before now for tutu layers and that's come out quite well. You need something that looks like fine net curtain, not too transparent. > > I think it's all looking good though - even though I don't have Roxie to use it :(

You Got Miki 4?Although I have to fix that same ankle tie on her shoes, too.

Ooooh! That sounds interesting...... Miki4 I have. The poor girl keeps bugging me to buy her a XD licence so she can steal V4's ballet stuff, but it hasn't happened yet :biggrin:

She really needs her own pointe shoes. Converting them and then trying to get the converted shoes to pose anything like realistically is a pain.

Yeah, it'd be nice if they had a dance studio too. But ... well...

How about a ballet mirror ?

http://www.sharecg.com/v/27610/browse/11/Poser/Ballet-Mirror

The room could be any room.

Actually a Dance studio isn't that hard to model. I'm just not into doing props right now which is one reason i haven't really tried doing too many out there costumes .

I have got a new outfit set coming to freestuff.

Ha-ha-ha-, not that open, and not for this girl, but for Roxie.

Blender and Poser , WHAT a combination.

It took a long time to build for Roxie, but when finished, it took no more then 10 minutes to adapt it to this figure.

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Free conforming Roxie-Mexican is in freestuff now.

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Any more requests before I start the next set?

As most have seen, all my sets are "one click Drag-Drop-autoconform on the figure" end user solutions, including shoes or boots.

Happy Posering,
Tony

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Roxie, ready to defend her Runtime. LOL.

Coming soon in free stuff here. (Not finished yet)

Happy Posering.

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Quote -

As most have seen, all my sets are "one click Drag-Drop-autoconform on the figure" end user solutions, including shoes or boots.

Happy Posering,
Tony

Not mine though. I have nothing against the one click drag and drop and for newbies, it's probably preferable. But I like to change out things sometimes. This skirt with that blouse and those shoes.

Roxie also wants to defend her wardrobe against abuse by others...

And as you have seen, I build 'themed" outfits.
Happy Posering.

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As i said, nothing wrong with it. In fact, as long as the shoes and tops and bottoms all have separate mat zones, you can still switch out.

TIP : and User guide.

All my sets are as end user friendly as pssible, but?

Example : an end user only wants the boots from the forestwalker set. (Or any other of my sets.)

Using only Blender and Poser, that is a 4 minute Job.

Load the Forestwalker in Blender. (File Import object file)
Click edit, click => Remove double vertices. => Blender 2.7

Select everythng, exept the boots and click delete vertices.

You have both boots.
Export object file.

Open Poser
Load Roxie
Import object file => Import the boots.
Goto fitting room (or setup room)
Click create figure
Select hip, both thigh, both shin, both feet, both toe's.
Create and give a name for the boots.
Save to library, done.

Takes longer to type it all down here then it does to do.

If anybody wants a detailed instruction, I will write one with all Blender import and export optons. => that is the only tricky part. Set Blenders import and export options.

Want to extract any other clothign from one of my sets?
Exactly same procedure.

4 to 7 minutes at the MOST !

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Well, have to say I hand it to both of you, seriously, I really don't know how you cope with the issues working with the Poser figures, I really don't.

I decided literally just now to drop the whole thing. I just noticed even Vicky doesn't work properly in Poser Mirroring so the problems are down to Poser as well as the Poser figures, in other words, it's never going to work properly.

Screw it.

Keep up the good work, you both have way more patience with this stuff than I do!

@ pumeco

That is actually VERY simple.

Few native Poser figures are symmetrical. (Rex and Roxie being the only ones I know of.)
Not all Poser figures are fully welded. Posette, Sydney, even Lo Res Alyson have welding problems.
Morph brush Symmetry ONLY works when the figure is in its "T" pose.
But this last statement depends on a LOT of things, so play it safe and use it ONLY when the figures are in their FULL ZERO DEFAULT "T" Pose.

I never use a "V" or Dawn, so forgive me for not knowing how they behave (or not).

Want to do figure object file work?
Load the object file in BLENDER. (never use an object file that you exported from Poser)
Use the default object file after you unzipped the obz into an obj.

Do you object file work in Blender. (Morphing, sculpting, do NOT add or delete any vertex, or you can start over.) => Do not forget to set the "X" Mirror for both, edit and sculpt, before starting. LOL.

Then use a fresh cr2, and set the 2 lines to point to your new object file.
Or load YOUR modified object file from Blender as a FBM in PoserPro.

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Cheers Vilters, but that's the thing, the whole idea of having the Morph Brush inside of Poser is so that you can create morphs while posed, that's what they said it can do.

Fact is, it can't, not without issues and that's why I'm screwed. I wanted to work on a character for Roxie and I wanted to include better Advanced Body Controls. I can't though, because Mirroing is screwed and leaves out random vertices so that means the resulting character would not be symmetrical if I had to correct it all manually.

Anyway, I appreciate the tip but don't let me derail the thread again. I'll take another look at Poser on the next release, but for now I'll have to leave it.

Build a tread, load is with screengrabs to show what is happening, or send some files over for me to look at.
tony.vilters@pandora.be

Rex and Roxie are the only symmetrical and fully welded Poser figures, and should have the least of problems of the lot otut here.

PS, yes, I am in Belgium LOL.

And with Rex and Roxie I personally have not seen vertex being left behind.
So I am VERY interested to see it.

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Very kind of you to offer, Tony, but I already posted a shot of it in the bug thread
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@ pumeco a tip.

Ok, you want to build correction morphs for a bend.
Try the following.
Load Roxie
Click figure => ZERO Roxie

This step is MANDATORY => To ZERO Roxie (or any other figure) BEFORE doing anything else.

Pose the items you want to correct on one side.
Right click on Roxie, => Symmetry, and build a symmetry (mirror) to the other side.

Now you have a symmetrical but posed Roxie in her true ZERO (X,Y,Z) position.

Now open the morph brush and "paint" your new morph.
Then click => Mirror to the other side.

That should work.

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@ pumeco

OK, I see, so my next question;

Was this with Sinning method Poser Traditional or Unimesh?

EDIT : Never mind, I can duplicate, both skinning methods make the same deformations.

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I tried that, won't work :-(
I think you just missed my previous post on the other page, I just posted a link for you ;-)

Vilters, cheers but I'll start a new thread, I honestly don't want this one to go OT again :-P

Never mind, I can duplicate with both Skinning methods.
Investigating now, but it is not a weld crack.

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lol - too late now, thread started :-P

I finally managed to buy PP 2014 and now that I have access to Roxie, I'd like some clothes for her.

I prefer dynamic clothing, casual real world practical stuff... jeans, regular cotton shirts, sweat pants/sweat shorts, etc.

Either go to Content Paradise and look up Roxie, or go the Rendo Freestuff and do a search for her. You'll find stuff from several people (me, me!) who have made stuff for her. (I love her more though cause I've made more stuff for her!)

You're just asking Vilters to speed-up his output with comments like that :biggrin:

@ pumeco

WRONG !

We are not in competition al all.

When I see a technical chalenge? I build something.

My first free items where fitting room tests.
No more, no less, and I said so.

My later items where technical tests.
There is something special in each of my sets.

When I build something, it is because I wanna learn, or overcome, or try something.
Be it in Blender or in Poser.

And when done?

Better to give it away then to throw it away.

As I wrote before: There is something special in the : Roxie - The Roman set.
I wanna see ANY other builder to build a similar set in the way I did, and make it behave the way it does.

And my "sets" are "sets" because I want them to be "sets".

Click-drag-and-drop-autoconform the FULL set in a single click, to be as end user friendly as possible.

My "production" as you call it depends on my free time, what I see or want to learn, or figure out this time.

Production will STOP, when I see no chalenge any more.
I could crack out a set a day if I wanted to.
I could build "whatever" if I wanted to.

Single motivation is; The chalenge.

Competition? ? Is no technical chalenge.

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Bloody hell, alright, alright, I was only joking

I've downloaded your Roman outfit already but I've not even installed it yet. I'll take a look at it tonight but I doubt this "trick" thing you keep on about is going to be obvious to me. I've rarely added anything to Poser so if something happens that doesn't normally happen, I doubt I'd realise it even when I see it!

Don't take that the wrong way, it's just the way I am with Poser, I generally just fiddle around with it.

Ha- ha- ha-
Nobody will know what I did untill they actually try to make something alike work.
And then find out; Damm, how the hell did he do that? ? ?

A second, you have P10 right? Ok, impossible it will stay.
And, euh, that was the final hint...

Next piece of info will cost a chocolate icecream deliverd to;

Roxie- The Roman
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Renderville
Belgium

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Wish sometimes I had pictures from my last year in school, clothing types were different, not so much in how they were made as in how they were worn. Formal gown from that time would be nice, conforming top, dynamic skirt. Square cut front, closed back, short sleeves, I don't even have any pictures, Didn't take part in anything I didn't have to. Usually saw things as I was leaving before anything started. Put in my appearance, "Hello, Goodbye", as quickly as possible. SOmetimes regret not bringing my Kodak Hawkeye, but film was expensive too.

Doric.

The "I" in Doric is Silent.

You want a technical challenge? How about a suit of sci-fi body armor? (Or fantasy armor, for that matter).

The breast plate on your Roman suit looks fantastic. I'm keen to see more of that sort of thing.

Or a Queen Bodicea outfit with a breast plate and a flowing cape. Can you make a conforming cape that still works well? Or a hybrid one? (Roxie the Roman would have someone to battle!)

Or Joan of Arc. Not the fantasy type junk with the ridiculous molded breasts that would break the poor girl's sternum if she fell. But something more realistic.

Just some ideas... :)

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something like this would be cool

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Quote - something like this would be cool

Made me think of this movie from the 80's called I'm Gonna Git You Sucka. There was a running joke that applies here. How do you suppose she goes to the bathroom with all that stuff on?

Not sure yet, but Rex-The Forestrunner will probably be next up.
Similar to Roxie the forestrunner.

Yeah, think I"ll stick to male and female sets of the same "theme".

@ Rorrkonn
Ach, there is more then enough stuff like that being build.

I"ll stick to planet earth if you do not mind. LOL.

But I"ll still take requests. :-)

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Quote - > Quote - something like this would be cool

Made me think of this movie from the 80's called I'm Gonna Git You Sucka. There was a running joke that applies here. How do you suppose she goes to the bathroom with all that stuff on?

Same way hockey players do when they're in the middle of a game. :D (And I assume medieval knights in plate armor did it too.)

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Quote - Not sure yet, but Rex-The Forestrunner will probably be next up.
Similar to Roxie the forestrunner.

Yeah, think I"ll stick to male and female sets of the same "theme".

@ Rorrkonn
Ach, there is more then enough stuff like that being build.

I"ll stick to planet earth if you do not mind. LOL.

But I"ll still take requests. :-)

This is planet earth:

And, I'd think, technically challenging. But you are the artist, so you get to choose. Also, a forestwalker version for Rex would be cool!

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For what it's worth, I have in mind a sci-fi armor set (somewhat Halo or Appleseed) for Rex and Roxie, with working indicator lights etc. Also, LotR-esque elvish armor, and medieval European armor sets. But it will be some time before I get to it. The last few days I've only gotten mechanical work done on a rock crawler Jeep, no computer 3D work. The TinkerBell set is my first priority, and then probably the Lothlorien environment - there's a dearth of environments for Poser. I'm not sure where the new TinkerBell's Drive-In Cafe' playset will come in my schedule.

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Next project soon to be in free stuff is a jacket to enhance the usability of the Mexican outfit.
Happy Posering you all.

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Biker style

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/?item_id=73864

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Ha, a bikergirl :-)

Wel? ?
If interested, I could do a biker outfit for both, Rex and Roxie.

Now? ? ? What next? ?

Some easy to wear everyday clothes? ? ?

Ha-ha-ha-, I will cetainly get half a download . LOL.

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Attached Link: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/art-and-design/abbamania-is-on-the-rise-again-20100611-y2cu.html

what about doing that famous Agnetha(ABBA)Faltskog Cat-Dress including the boots?

In Agneta's real Cat dress, the sides are closed and the sleeves are also closed.
It is just a long mens "T" shirt with, a Cat design printed on, and a belt.

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Quote - In Agneta's real Cat dress, the sides are closed and the sleeves are also closed.
It is just a long mens "T" shirt with, a Cat design printed on, and a belt.

This was meant to be a suggestion, with a render that supposed to make you smile. Do you renember that picture series? So I was just following the topic. That dynamic clothing item was just the closest I could find in my runtime.

I went looking for pictures of the outfit, but it seems pretty easy to do.

i"ll let it brew overnight.

OK, I'll see what I can do, time permitting.
Things seem to go fast these days. LOL.

I remember ABBA having some stunning outfits.

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don't feel pushed. Your topic just made me think, you're happy to get suggestions.

Agnetha sure was one stunning retro-babe in her prime, and good work Timberwolf.

I actually thought to myself "ABBA" the moment I saw the pic before I'd even read the description.
You certainly nailed the look!

... on the outfit I mean, the face could use some work though :biggrin:

It was more an inspiration, than actually the attemp to make a digital clone. But let's see- maybe later ... ;)

@ Timberwolf

How would you like that outfit?

As close to "real" as possible or any modifications?

Can you share a picture? PS : I found some on the net, but they are all pretty small".

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@ Timberwolf

I found this video, but I also found longer sets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctn-40k9fE4

Up to you.
Happy Posering, Tony

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Attached Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVpgEGYhv5o&pxtry=1

Somewhere in this video at 1:37 you can see the scene I had in mind for Roxie. Well yeah , as close as real please. ;)

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Subject: What clothing would you like for Roxie?

Export both shoes as a single object file.

Ha-ha-ha-, not that open, and not for this girl, but for Roxie.